Linux-Misc Digest #982, Volume #20 Fri, 9 Jul 99 18:13:13 EDT
Contents:
dumb question (John Mitchell)
Re: Can I let other users use the mount command? ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps? (John Thompson)
Re: Debian: NTP Time to RTC ? (Marc Mutz)
Re: running seti@home (Marc Mutz)
Re: running seti@home (Greg H)
Re: dumb question (toby)
Re: Parallel port, ZIP drives and printing ("Gordon D. Anderson")
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (Larry)
Re: CIA assassinations (Larry)
Re: OK what nic for os/2 warp 4 and linux (Mike Trettel)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Clarence Riddle)
Re: Kernel Compile Error #22 (Marc Mutz)
Re: Help! gcc error while compile samba2 (Marc Mutz)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Anthony Ord)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: dumb question (Gergo Barany)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Mitchell)
Subject: dumb question
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:34:08 GMT
I compiled a "hello, world" app w/ gcc in the /root directory (while logged in
as root) - gcc test.c, where test.c had this in it:
#include <stdio.h>
int main()
{
fprint("hello");
return 0;
}
the compile goes fine, but when I run a.out by typing exec /root/a.out, I
immediately get a login prompt. ls says I have execute permission, but I set
it with chmod just to make sure. It still does the same thing. Someone please
help me pull my head out of my ass.
Thanks,
JPM
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I let other users use the mount command?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:22:00 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi, I am running RedHat 6.0 and I am attempting to allow a user other
> than root to mount the cdrom. I tried giving this user his/her own set
> of the mount and umount commands by copying them into the user's bin
> directory, modifying that users PATH appropriately, and then setting the
> +s bit on the mount and umount to allow them to execute the command as a
> superuser. This actually lets the user execute the command, but gave a
> strange message saying the kernel was not compiled to allow me to mount
> iso9660 file systems, which I know is NOT the case since as root I mount
> and umount cd's all the time. Making use of the utility sudo is not a
> viable option since it forces the user to enter a password after a
> period of time has gone by between uses of the sudo command (its
> timestamp expires). Does anyone know how I can allow a specific user
> other than root to execute the mount or umount commands without limits?
I only modified the cd-rom disk via linuxconf, but here's what it placed
in /etc/fstab
/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom iso9660
user,noexec,nodev,suid,ro,noauto 0 0
ALL users can here mount/unmount and read but not execute programs
direct from
the CD (and of course can't write to it)
However, if you want only ONE of many regular users to have access
- i'm clueless. Guess you could make some cdrom group, give it mount
priviledges and assign the user to that group but i find it painful to
think
beyond that ;)
K
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:27:48 -0600
Jason Earl wrote:
> On 8 Jul 1999 22:14:49 GMT, Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <_sQg3.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brett R. Rosselle wrote:
> >>Does anybody know of a good site that has an abundance of Linux apps that
> >>are not X based? I am running Slackware 4.0 on some machines without X (disk
> >>space & video limitations).
> >
> >Freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/, use a mirror) has an index of a lot of
> >command line applications. Exactly what are you looking for, maybe we
> >could make recommendations?
> Or maybe I can save you some time. Emacs does EVERYTHING :).
For me, emacs washed the dishes but didn't dry them. And no
matter how I try, I simply can't get emac's lisp to fold the
laundry properly. Needless to say, I'm looking for a
different editor.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:11:28 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian: NTP Time to RTC ?
Eric Wick wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> just a simple and easy Question: Who can tell me the magic line to get the ntp
> from a timeserver and save it to my rtc?
>
There are zillions of possible combinations:
- Xntp (almost always way oversized)
- getdate & then /sbin/hwclock --systohc
- dto. & then /sbin/clock ...
- ...
Marc
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:12:46 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running seti@home
cd <setiathome-dir>
./setiathome
Now it runs or fails. If it fails, _please_ give the details.
Marc
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Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
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From: Greg H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: running seti@home
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:20:58 GMT
D L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it said something like this at the shell prompt:
> bash : unknown command
Go into the same directory that the SETI binary is in and type this:
./setiathome
This sounds like you don't have the directory in your path.
Greg H.
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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dumb question
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 15:48:43 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Mitchell wrote:
> I compiled a "hello, world" app w/ gcc in the /root directory (while logged in
> as root) - gcc test.c, where test.c had this in it:
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main()
> {
> fprint("hello");
> return 0;
> }
>
> the compile goes fine, but when I run a.out by typing exec /root/a.out, I
> immediately get a login prompt. ls says I have execute permission, but I set
> it with chmod just to make sure. It still does the same thing. Someone please
> help me pull my head out of my ass.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JPM
Why not just ./a.out?
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From: "Gordon D. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parallel port, ZIP drives and printing
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:58:29 GMT
LPT2 is irq 5. Are you sure that irq 7 is free on your machine?
toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to be able to print and use my old parallel port Zip drive at the
> same time. I went into surplus at work and yoinked a ISA parallel port
> card. I jumpered it to
> 0x378, irq 7, dma 3 (all of which are free on my machine) which
> corresponds to (I think) LPT2. I installed the card and I am going to
> use that as lp1 and configure it to print and run ppa.o, which
> interferes with lp0. Trick is: How do I configure lp1 to be the line
> printer. Can I tell ppa.o to use irq7? Or is there another way of
> telling the modules to not interfere with the printer and vice-versa?
> Toby
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Jul 1999 15:12:20 -0600
On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:40:11 GMT, Binesh Bannerjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Stephen,
>
>: A computer is a far more complicated device than an automobile. Your
>: auto does exactly one task - it moves from one place to another. A
8< ------- SNIP ------ >8
>
>But, I think that's the point... There are hundreds of ways to make
>a brake, yet people make them the same way, and so one does not _have_
>to be "automobile" literate to use a car. Ditto for steering wheel,
>8 ---------- SNIP ---------- 8<
The point is that 25 years ago I could open the hood of that car and fix it
if there was a problem. Today I have to spend $500.00 for minor shit that
could have been repaired for $50.00 back then.
I don't intend to let this happen with my operating system. With Linux it
doesn't, with win9* if you have a problem, you're screwed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 9 Jul 1999 15:01:30 -0600
On 9 Jul 1999 08:59:01 GMT, Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Indeed CNN does great reporting, one of the best in the world.
>
>Only americans believe that and only because /all/ of your mass
>media is fucked.
>
>>As for the commies in Chile it was an infortunate event but
>>then what kind of atrocities would have been had the commies
>>stayed in power we'll never know.
>
> their property
>being expropriated so it can be given to poor peasants,
>right quick that you can't have Evil Communism, you can't steal
>from the rich to give to the poor.
This is the reason your beloved communism has never worked.
The people you are stealing from and killing because of their
intelligence and inovative thinking are the very people who
are responsible for the computer you type on, the car you drive,
and all the other modern conveniences you take so much for
granted.
You may hate the freedom the US has but you are a direct
beneficiary of the inovations of all those Evil rich people
you hate so much.
Look at the failures around the world of the countries who have
tried to institute communist, totalitarian regimes. Russia, Cuba
China, Central America, Nazi Germany, they are all failures.
And by the way all of these wonderful countries are responsible for
murderous atrocities on their own people. Russia killed over 20 million of
it's own citizens as dissidents, Nazi Germany over 6 million, China
murdered it's own citizens for wanting freedom. Anyone who thinks
communism is a panacea for mankind is a total fucking moron. All you
have to do is look at the history of communism to see that only those who
want total domination of their fellow man could want communism.
Sick mother fuckers, all of them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Trettel)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: OK what nic for os/2 warp 4 and linux
Reply-To: Y'all have to fix this@nowhere
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:21:34 GMT
On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 00:14:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ok so i need a nic to get hooked up to cable ,so which cards work
>well with os2 warp 4 and linux
>
>
> thanks everyone prior response was great, ill be ready and waiting for
>the cable guy to show up next week.
D-Link 528 (pci NE2000 clone) works OK for me.
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From: Clarence Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:10:46 -0500
I've been running and developing SCO ODT since 1991 and linux is at least 3
times faster than SCO. Also linux isn't any more buggy than SCO
cgr
Chris Raper wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:15:00 +0800, Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
>
> >I think you'd be surprised. A lot of ISPs will supply UNIX gateway type
> >machines. They tend to be low spec PCs (old 486s) since all they're
> >really doing is managing a small proxy server and the dialup networking
> >connection, perhaps even manage email for the company. Linux would handle
> >these tasks pretty easily. A current-day SCO on a 486 would not handle
> >these tasks well at all.
>
> I have never heard of ISPs using 486s but then again I haven't done
> much except set up dial-up accounts on PCs. Sounds like a good use for
> one and I guess Linux would be a good choice here. SCO OS5 wouldn't
> handle this spec at all well - and you would have to fork out a lot of
> money to buy it.
>
> >> In the latter environment you want a machine
> >> that installs quickly and is simple to upgrade / administer.
> >
> >I think that's more a familiarity issue than anything else. I found Linux
> >made more sense to me and was more consistent. But then, if SCO was what
> >I'd started with, SCO would probably feel more "right" ;).
>
> Sure - familiarity is a big factor. Though I am pretty sure SCO
> requires less technical knowledge and would install tighter using
> defaults settings. A lot of these 'easy to install' flavours dump so
> much software down that you can easily lose 500+Mb if you don't trim
> it down.
>
> >> I haven't anything else to compare SCO with. Does Linux out perform an
> >> OS like Openserver 5 - given identical, reasonably high-spec hardware?
> >It definitely feels slower and more clunky under SCO.
>
> Interesting. I will try it out in the office - if I get time! :-)
>
> >IME, Debian's package management systems really are far superior to SCO's
> >upgrading methods. A greater number of upgrade source options (FTP, CDROM,
> >etc).
>
> I will see if we can get hold of a copy. To be fair to Caldera (the
> flavour I have been using most), its LISA program isn't bad but it
> just doesn't hold a candle to 'scoadmin' and 'custom'. Though the way
> SCO changed the user interface when they went from 3.2.4.2 -> OS5 is
> _really_ annoying and totally un-intuitive (IMHO).
>
> >I think that's the thing: there are companies out there for whom only a
> >proprietory OS is a "safe decision". It gives them someone to blame when
> >things aren't working so they won't get fired themselves.
>
> Mmm the "It's IBM and Microsoft - it must be good" syndrome.
>
> >It also helps that, in general, the support you get from SCO is.. um..
> >really not worth mentioning, if what I've heard about them is true ;).
>
> Never had to use their support - it has always worked :-)
>
> The only time I had a real problem (with Free SCO at home) I used the
> SCO newsgroup on Usenet and got everything sorted through that.
>
> >There are some things that I do like about SCO, though. For one, their
> >X11 window manager is nice.
>
> Mmm - never use it - I always flip it into character mode. This also
> comes as a result of having to administer these boxes over 28k modems.
>
> >There's good integration of their toolboxes
> >for adjusting configuration. It's a user-interface thing that they've
> >got on their side.
>
> True - but to me that make a lot of difference. When my boss is
> looking over my shoulder saying 'can we install this tomorrow' I can
> be reasonably sure that there won't be problems. With Linux I just
> haven't got that 'good feeling' yet. :-)
>
> >But, overall, it doesn't begin to make up for the other stuff ;).
>
> Maybe I'll be singing the praises of Linux in a year - watch this
> space! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
> Chris R.
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:17:50 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Compile Error #22
Joseph S. White wrote:
>
> and 'make zImage'. All was well but at the end of the
> compile the very last line reads: make zImage [error 22]
>
> No zImage was place in the /i386/boot directory either. Any
> Idea what is going on here.
>
What did it say in the last-but-one, last-but-two, ... , line?
_Please_ provide sufficient info if you want proper help!
Marc
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Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:15:46 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! gcc error while compile samba2
Probably a hw failure, see http://www.bitwzrard.nl/sig11(.html?)
Marc
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Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:30:00 GMT
On 07 Jul 1999 12:01:16 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul
D. Smith) wrote:
>%% De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> dmj> "Paul D. Smith" wrote:
<snip>
> dmj> Didn't you had history-classes ? Before the US got involved,
> dmj> Europe and Northern Africa was on fire, there was a
> dmj> German-Russian alliance, and Japan was fighting the
> dmj> Chinese. Pretty big area, 3 continents. But the US wasn't (yet)
> dmj> involved so it wasn't a worldwar :-)) nice, very nice :-)
>
>I never said the U.S., per se, had to be involved.
>
>Hmm. So you're saying that without any participation by any country on
>one side of the world, it's still a _world_ war? Nice, very nice.
The Canadians were involved and sent soldiers. Perhaps
you've heard of Canada?
>Or, put another way, would you call a war that didn't involve _any_
>European countries a world war? Uh huh.
No. All the continents need to be involved (even if only
slightly - Antarctica doesn't count because there are no
people there).
>Always good to know where our respective prejudices lie :).
Indeed.
Regards
Anthony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:10:58 GMT
In article <7m2jj6$mf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Fredrich P. Maney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [deletia]
>
>: What does where it was invented have to do with anything? It's still
>: incredibly silly to call a competition in one country a World Series. I
>: really don't see what its invention has to do with anything...
>
> Well considering that outside of Japan, to my knowledge the US and
> Canada are the only places where Baseball is played. The governing
Then please explain how all these all these Carribean and South and
Central American players in professional baseball learned their skills.
Isn't Cuba the dominating country in amateur baseball? Hasn't Taiwan
wone some international (mpt World) chamionship lately?
> bodies of Baseball are in the US, most of the players/teams/fans
> are in the US. Seems to make perfect sense to me that the World
> Series (the pinnacle of baseball) would be played in the US.
Until not too long ago it was restricted to teams from the US. Strange
World chamgionship. (For non NOrth American readers who wonder: afaik
the series is named after a now defunct New York Newspaper that donated
some kind of prize for it)
--
Hartmann Schaffer
It is better to fill your days with life than your life with days
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: dumb question
Date: 9 Jul 1999 20:42:30 GMT
In article <7m5iqj$bd2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Mitchell wrote:
>I compiled a "hello, world" app w/ gcc in the /root directory (while logged in
>as root) - gcc test.c, where test.c had this in it:
>
>#include <stdio.h>
>
>int main()
>{
>fprint("hello");
>return 0;
>}
>
>the compile goes fine, but when I run a.out by typing exec /root/a.out, I
>immediately get a login prompt. ls says I have execute permission, but I set
>it with chmod just to make sure. It still does the same thing. Someone please
>help me pull my head out of my ass.
Lew has answered very well, I just wanted to mention that you should
NEVER do ANYTHING as root unless it's REALLY necessary.
Gergo
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