Linux-Misc Digest #984, Volume #20                Fri, 9 Jul 99 22:13:21 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (sonny alverson)
  Re: Linux/WinNT networking question (toto)
  Teac CDR56S experiences? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: CIA assassinations (toto)
  Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions? (Stephen Anthony)
  Re: Making MPEG movies from AVI? ("R.K.Aa")
  Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? (Big Daddy)
  HELP! restore deleted files? (Richard j. Freedman)
  Re: running seti@home ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? (Colin Smith)
  Re: Video Card Recommendation? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions? 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux in Education, Linux for small children (Douglas Loss)
  Need to burn SuSE 6.1 onto CDs...what goes where? (Scott Alfter)
  Re: Default permissions/ownership (John Thompson)
  Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) ("Binesh Bannerjee")
  Re: how to use keys in a 104 Keyboard? (A E Lawrence)
  Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? ("J�rgen Exner")
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Paul D. Smith)
  Re: Anybody got EPSON Stylus Color 640 or 850 ---------- ("John E. Garrott")
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Ricky Walker)
  Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) ("Binesh Bannerjee")
  Re: **NEWBEE** modprobe: can't locate module lo after new kernel? (Silviu Minut)
  Problems mounting a zip disk (root)
  Right Alt key doesn't work (root)

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:45:11 -0700
From: sonny alverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1

Philipp Maier wrote:

> Michel Catudal wrote:
> >
> > naftali wrote:
> [snip]
> > > BUT
> > > Suse was not my first distribution, I came across many and it is the worst of
> > > the bunch, THATS what I said.
> > > for example, emacs which is a basic package works alot faster on Redhat, and I
> > > do mean Alot faster, yes I know its inconcievable, because the kernels are
> > > virtually the same, and they probably both got the emacs from GNU but I am
> > > stating this as a tested fact.
> > >
> >
> > On your PC perhaps, as for my PC I have not noticed that much
> > difference in speed. I have a Cyrix 220Mhz and it flies either
> > way. The main difference is that I get regular core dump under
> > RedHat 6.0 and almost none on SuSE 6.1. The setup is nice and
> > easy on SuSE and sucks on RedHat. I have only 40Meg or RAM and
> > 2 swap partitions of 64M. I only installed about 1.5G of the
> > stuff available.
>
> Completely agree. I had RH, I had Mandrake, and both were nice. Still, I
> prefer the latest SuSE which is really great.
>
> > Basically under SuSE it works right out of the box and you need
> > a lot of tweaking to get RedHat to work.
>
> Exactly, that has always been my point...
>
> Still, I wonder, if the choice between different Linux distributions is
> already that controversial, how must a discussion between Windows- and
> Linux-Lovers proceed? (Somehow I don't want to know, I've always tried
> to avoid these discussions...)
> PM
>
> --
> Information about Sylt and Maerklin mini-club:
>
> www.crosswinds.net/~pmaier

SuSE 6.1 ooooo let me tell you what i think:
1.Netscape Freezes all the time (i use caldera now and no problems)
2.When i switch between consoles sometimes it locks the computer (again no problem
with caldera)
3.When Netscape stalls it stalls the whole PPP connection (Caldera again)

Good things
1. this is about it LOTS of Software!!




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From: toto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/WinNT networking question
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:13:14 -0700

toby wrote:
> I think you want Samba, but I am not sure what you want exactly.
No, what he wants cannot be done. Windows aren't distributed and Windows
apps cannot be run on terminal like X-based apps. That's why MS bought
Netframe and has a totally separate version of the server that allows
something like that. 
-- 
len
if you must email, reply to:
len bel at world net dot att dot net (no spaces, ats2@, dots2.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Teac CDR56S experiences?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:47:46 GMT

Hi,

I plan to buy a Teac CDR56S internal SCSI CD-R drive for my computer. I
already have a SCSI-2 (AdvanSys) card installed and working fine, and
I'm running Red Hat 5.1 Linux. If anyone had good or bad experiences
with this drive, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

In particular, there are three important thing: installation problems,
media compatibility (I have a stack of silver-blue TDK's) and problems
while using it, like errors, overheating, tray not ejecting after
burning a CD or xcdroast not recognizing the drive(er), CD-ROM, etc.

Thanks a lot,

Milica


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From: toto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:16:32 -0700

toby wrote:
> 
> Actually, this whole thread is a sublime discussion of how to read core
> dumps with gdb. Keep up the good work.
<G> Sorry about that. I haven't seen the beginning. I'll cancel my
contribution, I guess...
-- 
len
if you must email, reply to:
len bel at world net dot att dot net (no spaces, ats2@, dots2.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Anthony)
Subject: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
Date: 9 Jul 1999 23:47:32 GMT

"Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Today it was announced that the Linux kernal will be used in the new Amigas.
>>
>> Any opinions on this development?
>>
>> Wade Segade
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (remove the obvious)

>Where did you see this announcement? Man, I loved my Amiga - used an Amiga for
>over 7 years. If they put Linux on it, I'd go back to an Amiga in a heartbeat.

>Don

Try "http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html"

Steve


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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Making MPEG movies from AVI?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:50:38 +0200

Apropos the sound problem: Have you tried bttvgrab ?

http://moes.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de/bttvgrab/


K.

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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
Date: 9 Jul 1999 23:15:34 GMT

Andrew Arbon was talking... AGAIN...
: If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
: any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
: deliberately/accidentally?

By "standard options", I presume that you have NOT given the said user any
other special permissions... In that case, I don't imagine there's a whole
lot you can do to mess up the system... you can mess up your own user
account, perhaps, real bad, but not the main system.

-- 
Big Daddy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard j. Freedman)
Subject: HELP! restore deleted files?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:58:11 GMT

Do to some gross stupidity I just deleted about 90% of my home directry.
Are there any programs out there that would allow me to recover them?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: running seti@home
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:29:17 GMT

On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:43:12 -0400, Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>Marc Mutz wrote:
>> 
>> cd <setiathome-dir>
>> /setiathome
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(..)
>
> Forgot the leading dot: ./setiathome
>Everything else is correct.
>
>MST

Thanks to everybody  for the info (the path was my problem).  I am
real new to Linux.... but the more I see, the more I like.

Next step: SB LIve drivers......   :)

DL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Smith)
Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
Date: 9 Jul 1999 23:39:50 GMT

On 9 Jul 1999 23:15:34 GMT, Big Daddy 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Andrew Arbon was talking... AGAIN...
>: If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
>: any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
>: deliberately/accidentally?
>
>By "standard options", I presume that you have NOT given the said user any
>other special permissions... In that case, I don't imagine there's a whole
>lot you can do to mess up the system... you can mess up your own user
>account, perhaps, real bad, but not the main system.

Most distributions don't enforce quotas or ulimits by default, you'll
need to turn those options on.

By default an ordinary user will be able to fork bomb the system, fill
all the RAM and fill the home and tmp file systems. All easily stopped
using quotas and ulimits.

-- 
|Colin Smith:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Windows 2000:     |
|           Linux: Evolution in action.          | The Zeppelin of   |
|             http://www.linux.org/              | operating systems.|

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Video Card Recommendation?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:11:39 GMT

go to http://www.redhat.com/hardware
and click on intel hardware.  It show you the list of
hardware that supported by linux.  To get the most out of
you viewsonic G790 go to the how to section.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michael Wellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A TNT or TNT2 card might be what your looking for but you'll have
to=20
> get the drivers from nVidea's sight.  I'v got a Creative Labs
graphics=20
> blaster (TNT based card) coming in the mail from shopping.com for=20
> around $75.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> On 7/8/99, 6:26:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flash) wrote regarding=20
> Video Card Recommendation?:
>
> > Hi, I m finally getting around to replacing my 2Mb video card, and
I=20
> am
> > looking for a recommendation.
>
> > This is what I run on the machine
>
> > Windowmaker 0.60.0 on XFree86
> > RH Linux 5.2, kernel 2.2.x
> > Viewsonic 19" Monitor
> > Pentium 200
> > 64Mb RAM
> > PCI Bus only.
>
> > I would like to get the most out of my new, beautiful Viewsonic
G790, =
>
> and
> > increase my resolution to maybe 1280x1024, 24bit color.
>
> > I would like to stick to around $150.
>
> > If anyone can give me a good recommendation for a card that is very
> > XFree86-friendly, PCI, and will support high refresh rates and
> > resolutions, I would be most grateful.
>
> > --
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 23:58:22 GMT

On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:39:07 GMT, "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> Today it was announced that the Linux kernal will be used in the new Amigas.
>>
>
>Where did you see this announcement? Man, I loved my Amiga - used an Amiga for
>over 7 years. If they put Linux on it, I'd go back to an Amiga in a heartbeat.
>
>Don
>
http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html




Wade Segade

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (remove the obvious)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Loss)
Subject: Re: Linux in Education, Linux for small children
Date: 9 Jul 1999 19:56:37 -0500

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Greg O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know of any groups, projects or resources for Linux in
> education or Linux for small children? Could you post to me personally
> as well as the list please?
> 
Try seul-edu <http://www.seul.org/edu/>.  We have a number of subprojects
going on for Linux in education, and links to a fair number of other 
groups and projects for that sort of thing.

-- 
Doug Loss            Always acknowledge a fault.  This will throw
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    those in authority off their guard and give
(570) 326-3987       you the opportunity to commit more.
                        Mark Twain

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Need to burn SuSE 6.1 onto CDs...what goes where?
Date: 9 Jul 1999 23:51:08 GMT

I had my computer downloading SuSE 6.1 (the whole thing is on ftp.suse.com)
24/7 for a couple of weeks (hey, it's only 56K analog) and have all ~2.9GB
sitting on my hard drive.  I could leave it there while I install it, but I
don't want the install files taking space permanently from my Win98
partition.  I also backed it up on tape, but I doubt that a tape created
with MS Backup would be readable under Linux and I don't think SuSE's
installer would run from tape anyway.  It's obviously too big to fit on a
single CD-ROM, so the files must've been split across multiple CDs.  If I
were to burn a bunch of CD-Rs, what files would go where in order to make an
installable set of CDs?  I've maintained the directory structure from the
FTP site, so it should be a matter of "this goes here and that goes there."
(Yes, I could've bought it, but I'm kinda cheap that way...besides, the
whole thing's already downloaded and it'd be a waste to toss it.)

  _/_
 / v \
(IIGS(  Scott Alfter (salfter at (yo no quiero spam) delphi dot com)
 \_^_/  http://people.delphi.com/salfter


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Default permissions/ownership
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:08:53 -0600

"Brett Stime (steamer25 at hotmail dot com)" wrote:
 
> Okay I've figured out how to use the umask command...  Is there some way to
> get *new* files to inherit ownership/permissions from the directory they are
> created in?  I have a secure FTP server and need to allow a group to access
> all files uploaded from various clients without allowing the clients to
> access eachother's files...  The above would is currently the easiest
> solution.

You can change the parameters in /etc/fstab to set the umask
on a filesystem-by-filesystem basis.  Eg, if you have "/"
mounted in one filesystem and "/home" in another you could
have a different umask for "/" and "/home" defined in
/etc/fstab

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:25:20 GMT

Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:02:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>> And because of M$oft's 'easy
:>> point-and-click' GUI, most of the people using these systems tend to
:>> NOT be computer literate and in fact M$oft's 'easy point-and-click' GUI
:>> discourages true computer literacy, which just makes things even
:>> easier for the crackers to spread these worms.
:>
:>I am not 'auto literate' but I use my car effectively and safely every day.

: Unless you are driving illegally, you ARE "auto literate", in the sense of
: purely opreating the thing, at least. That's why they have driver's
: licenses,ya know.

So, you're suggesting computer user licenses?

If you are... Well...  I could go on and on, about you have
driver licenses because the consequence of not following
rules is death or injury to _other_ drivers. But, this argument
(that of requiring people to get licensed to browse websites, or
use Wordperfect) is so asinine as not to warrant a serious
response, so I won't.

If you are not suggesting computer user licenses, but are
simply saying that knowing how to "purely operate the thing"
AND you are saying that "purely operating the thing" would
also entail knowing how to repair a blown engine, when the
thing starts pouring out smoke in the middle of a highway,
then I'd have to say that most licensed drivers are _not_
"auto literate" by your definition.

If you are not suggesting computer user licenses, but are
simply saying that knowing how to drive and get from point
A to point B constitutes being "auto literate" but, they'd
have to know how to drive in icy weather, rainy weather,
know how to handle a spinout, etc. I'd have to say again
most licensed drivers are _not_ "auto literate" by your
definition.

If you are not suggesting computer user licenses, but are
saying that simply knowing how to drive and get from point
A to point B constitutes being "auto literate" even if only
under "normal road conditions" then I'd agree. But, then
why must "auto literacy" be so all inclusive, but "computer
literacy" be so exclusive? Why is it not enough to know
how to send email to friends in Belgium, write resumes
and do taxes on the computer not sufficient to call oneself
"computer literate"?

Binesh

: -- 
: [Trim the no-bots from my address to reply to me by email!]
: [ Do NOT email-CC me on posts. Pick one or the other.]
:  --------------------------------------------------
: The word of the day is mispergitude


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From: A E Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to use keys in a 104 Keyboard?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:39:29 +0100

Charles Yau wrote:
> 
> I am running Redhat 6 and Fvwm2. In Fvwm, i can map some key
> in the .fvwm2rc file. May i wonder how can i map the 3 window keys?
> Thanks for any helps~

You might try using
/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/include/windowkeys.inc.gz
which will give you some keybindings outside X.

And adding 
 Meta-b: backward-word
 Meta-f: forward-word
to /etc/inputrc
will make the left doze key behave like Meta in readline programs.

ael
--
Dr A E Lawrence (from home)

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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:52:24 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Andrew Arbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
> any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
> deliberately/accidentally?

Well, I guess this depends on your definition of "Linux" (do you mean the
kernel, an OS running the Linux kernel, or a specific distribution?),
"hurt", and "standard options" (what options? those set by make config? or
installation of default packages in a specific distribution?, or...).

To answer in a gernal way: No, it should not be possible. At least that's
the whole point of having users.
But there are distrubitions which install e.g. SUID game programs which are
considered to be security holes large enough to fly a space shuttle through
them.
Or Slackware installs with an empty root password. Of course you will change
this immediately, but the default setting obviously is not secure.

So if the user knows how to exploit those holes, then yes, he can do serious
damage to the system.

jue
--
J�rgen Exner




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 09 Jul 1999 09:49:24 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

%% "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  cm> You did know that the US Navy and Marines were very active in
  cm> china in this period.  The Japanese sank the US Gunboat Panay in
  cm> 1937.  Roosevelt imposed massive economic sanctions against Japan
  cm> as a result.

Of course.  There was an undeclared Naval war against Germany, too.  I'm
talking about official declarations of war.

  >> Between Dec 7, 1941 and Dec 13, 1941, all those countries (and more)
  >> declared war on Japan, and in addition the U.S., the Central American
  >> countries, Cuba, and a few others declared war on Japan _and_
  >> Germany/Italy.

  cm> German and Italy declared war on the US not the other way.

???  You're saying the U.S. _didn't_ declare war on Germany and Italy on
Dec 11, 1941?  I think you should revisit that.

-- 
===============================================================================
 Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         Network Management Development
 "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
===============================================================================
   These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.

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From: "John E. Garrott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody got EPSON Stylus Color 640 or 850 ----------
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 17:29:10 -0700

Kaushik wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of buying either an EPSON 850 or an EPSON 640 for my
> Linux box. I am running RH6.0 on a P-II 350 Gateway2000 computer.
> 
> Has anyone used the EPSON Stylus Color 640 on a linux box? Does it
> work? If it does, then I won't have to spend 100 more bucks on a
> Stylus 850. Also, does the Stylus 850 work on a linux box? Has anyone
> used it/is using it?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Kaushik

I don't use either of those, but you might find your answers here:

 http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi


Good luck,

John

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From: Ricky Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:27:12 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Imrie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>
>> well, given the roster of nations _not_ involved in WWI, it's curious what
>> constitutes a world war...
>>
>
>I allways thaught that WW2 was a world war in the same way that the World series
>base ball is only plaied in the US :)

The World Series is named after the newspaper that sponsored the Series
when it started, The Boston World, OSLT
>
>The Pilgrim
>

-- 
Ricky Walker

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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:38:50 GMT

Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The point is that 25 years ago I could open the hood of that car and fix it
: if there was a problem. Today I have to spend $500.00 for minor shit that
: could have been repaired for $50.00 back then.

: I don't intend to let this happen with my operating system. With Linux it
: doesn't, with win9* if you have a problem, you're screwed.

Did you read _any_ of the rest of the thread?

Please try to read before posting. I'll give you a brief synopsis.

This was not a discussion about the technical triumph of windows over
linux.

It started from an equally asinine linux lovefest thread proclaiming
the "impossibility" of writing a virus on Linux, and much patting
on each others backs.

Upon that being challenged, it went to well, Windows promotes
"computer illiterate" people, because they don't understand
what a virus is, and how to take precautions about them.

I love the way computer people have this idea that to be "literate"
about computers people need to know how to take precautions against
being attacked.

I'm going to go around whacking people on the kneecaps and say,
well the people who I've assaulted were simply not "human anatomy
literate", otherwise they would have learned martial arts, and
blocked my assault.

I don't believe anyone anywhere in this thread (certainly not me)
was suggesting altering linux' behaviour to mimic windows'.

Or perhaps you were just illustrating your capacity for
non sequitur. In which case, let me join you...

25 years ago, there was a gas shortage. People were waiting
for HOURS at the gas stations. These days you can just get
gas at a gas station after a couple of minutes.

I don't intend to let this happen with my operating system. With Linux
there is no analogy to the above situation. With win9x... There is
no analogy either. Therefore Linux and win9x are similar in that
respect.

Binesh

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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: **NEWBEE** modprobe: can't locate module lo after new kernel?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 21:18:01 -0400

I saw the answer to this question a while ago. I tried it and it works.
Apparently is a RH thing. The trouble is
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-aliasses.

Back up the ifup-aliasses. Then create an empty one, i.e. one with the
only line

#!/bin/sh

That's all.


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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems mounting a zip disk
Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:46:14 -0400

I've formerly been able to mount a zip disk using the following command:

mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/zip

I just purchased a new 3-pack of Zip disks that say "Formatted for IBM 
compatables," I assume that this means that they have a FAT16 file system.

At any rate, when I try to mount them I see the following:

[root@localhost /root]# mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/zip
 hdc: hdc4
/dev/hdc1: Success
 hdc: hdc4
 hdc: hdc4
FAT bread failed
 hdc: hdc4
 hdc: hdc4
FAT bread failed
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

I've tried specifying the filesystem like so:

[root@localhost /root]# mount -t msdos /dev/hdc1 /mnt/zip
 hdc: hdc4
 hdc: hdc4
FAT bread failed
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1,
       or too many mounted file systems
 hdc: hdc4
       (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
       instead of some logical partition inside?)

Any idea why it keeps refering to hdc4, I would assum that there's only
one partition on the zip drive?
-- 
Please delete what's between the Eric and Goforth in my e-mail address to get
my real e-mail address.



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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Right Alt key doesn't work
Date: 09 Jul 1999 21:48:10 -0400

The right Alt key on my keyboard doesn't work under Linux, any way to 
fix this?
-- 
Please delete what's between the Eric and Goforth in my e-mail address to get
my real e-mail address.

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