Linux-Misc Digest #984, Volume #26               Wed, 31 Jan 01 18:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: setting the editor in pine?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: where to find a lot of software (Kevin)
  Re: Hello, asking for help (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: mandrake vs redhat? ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: Multibooting 5 OSs => Win98, NT4, Linux, Solaris 8 and Unixware 7 - HOW TO??? 
(Akop Pogosian)
  Plex86 Installation ("Brian W. Green")
  Plex86 Installation ("Brian W. Green")
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Programming (Dave Barcelo)
  Re: USB printer with kernel 2.2.18... (Linux-Addict)
  how to upgrade from workstation to server ("lupei")
  cvs permission issues (Stu)
  Selling GPL programs (John Krane)
  Re: Selling GPL programs (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: Programming (Erik de Castro Lopo)
  Re: Can you recommend a good Linux book? (TicTacTux)
  Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x (Andre Kostur)
  Re: setting the editor in pine?! (Eduardo Chappa)
  ALD - Assembly Language Debugger - where? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  what is "wait_o" (wait_on??) state ? (Andrew Daviel)
  I don't get it...latex, bibtex, bst files (Praedor Tempus)
  Re: how to upgrade from workstation to server (Mike E.)
  re-compiling kernel, where is the current configuration? (Lupei Zhu)
  Re: mandrake vs redhat? (Mike E.)
  Re: Selling GPL programs (Bill Unruh)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: setting the editor in pine?!
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:58:08 GMT

In article <959l01$k7f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) wrote:
>
> I use elm because it is Vi-esque.  Pine seems to be more popular but it is
> Pico-esque.  Is it possible to run Vi(m) with Pine?!
>
> thanks
>
>


I believe you can set your text editor in /etc/profile with the
following line.

EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi; export EDITOR

This would set your default editor to vi

Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: where to find a lot of software
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:02:28 GMT

Don't leave out http://tuxfinder.com/

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Subject: Re: Hello, asking for help
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 Jan 2001 15:10:07 -0500

tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi I just want it to know, which programming language can be used to 
> create an operating system such as lynex, microsoft ect.  

C and assembly.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr

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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake vs redhat?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:12:58 GMT


"Peter Bismuti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:959i8s$jd0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> At my company there has been a big wave of defections from redhat to
> mandrake, which is supposed to be "redhat compliant".  One of the most
> attractive things is that mandrake has built in IBm viavoice voice
> recgonition.

The only reason to be "Redhat compliant" is if you're running complicated
comericial apps like Oracle for which you're relying on their commercial
support.  It makes installation and setup easier because you can just follow
the prompts, etc.  If you make a support call, the drone on the other end
can lead you through stuff by telling you, "OK now click on this..."

> My concern is that the support for Mandrake is not as good as with Redhat
> as far as mailing lists, updates on their webpage, etc, etc.

What makes you think Redhat is really any good for this?  Prominent brand
names can make you think you'll be plugged into the main event or something,
and that by using anything else you'll be missing out.  In practice, the
opposite may be true.  I run both Mandrake 7.2 and Redhat 6.2.  Mandrake is
built for the typical desktop user, has more followers in that category, and
thus probably better support.  If you were running a *big* server, you might
want Redhat.  The idea is to plug into the community which has similar goals
to yours.

But all that's splitting hairs.  They're both Linux, dammit.  Mandrake is
structured the same as Redhat, so the same stuff will be in the same places.
It doesn't matter.

> Are there any opinions?  Are there any compelling reasons why I should NOT
> switch to Mandrake and stay with (and tolerate) Redhat7.0?

No, especially if you're a regular, desktop user.  Mandrake is superior for
this.  It's more up to date, includes more useful apps, and configures
itself better.  It will take you less work to get a usable system with
Mandrake.  BTW, I wouldn't touch RH 7.0, nor will many commercial vendors.
There's a good reason they're all still standardized on RH 6.2.

Matt O.




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From: Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.unix.solaris,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Multibooting 5 OSs => Win98, NT4, Linux, Solaris 8 and Unixware 7 - HOW 
TO???
Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:21:42 GMT

In comp.unix.solaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My intended setup:
> =================

> HD1 (30GB-IDE)==> Win98 on FAT32 (or divided into 2 Fat16/Fat32
> partitions if necessary)

> HD2 (8GB-IDE): Solaris 8, linux Mandrake 7.2, NT4 and Unixware 7.1

> My (quick) questions:
> ====================
> (NOTE: I have access to System Commander 2000 in case I need it)

> 1. Is this even possible?

Maybe. I am not sure how to boot NT4 from HD2 but you are welcome to
try.

> 2. Can I have Win98 on one disk and all the other OSs on the other?

Possibly ..

> 4. What is the proper installation order?

I have once put four OSes on my PC and I am sure I could fit more if
there was enough disk space ..

HD1 (3GB): Windows2000
HD2 (6GB): Debian GNU/Linux, OpenBSD, Solaris 7.

Linux and OpenBSD shared the same partition for swap.  Booting was
done with the linux loader, LILO and it worked well.  You should
install Linux first or second after windows. Linux can very useful
for such setups. First, it has LILO which you can use to boot all
other OSes. Second, it can mount the filesystems of all other OSes
on your list.

Of course, at some point I have realized that this is a great waste of
time and duplication of effort and the fact that I still get to use
only one OS at a time made be delete all of them but Debian ..


-Akop

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From: "Brian W. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Plex86 Installation
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:53:28 GMT





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From: "Brian W. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Plex86 Installation
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:54:09 GMT

Pressed send to early the first time...

Has anyone got any sort of install document for Plex86?  I just installed
Mandrake 7.2, and downloaded from the CVS tree at plex86.org the latest
plex86 code.  I want to be able to run Win98 in a window on my Linux
desktop.

Can anyone help here??

Thanks,

Brian




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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:17:14 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:01:21 +1300, Tony Neville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:49:17 +1300, Tony Neville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> No, the US was founded on Humanist beliefs. In the grand
> >> >> scheme of things, Christianity is just a historical  footnote. You
> >> >> are gravely delluded.
> >> >
> >> >Was the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness a sentiment to
> >> >be found in Humanism in those days?   If so, Humanism then as NO
> >>
> >> It still is.
> >
> >It isn't.
> >
> >> You might actually bother reading these things for yourself rather than
> >> merely taking taking the slander of someone with a conflict of interest as
> >> gospel.
> >
> >Do you recommend I not read anymore books on sociology, or material
> >from so-called Rationalist organisations, or lurk on humanist newgroups?
> 
>         Then by all means cite some.
> 
>         Try to come up with sources more recent than 1933.
> 
> [deletia]
> >> Idealists briefly flirted with Marxism due to the simple fact
> >> that it seems a more Humane system on the surface. This was
> >> true for a time (in general) about 70 years ago.
> >
> >In my country marxism neither died in academic circles nor in government.
> >The same goes for much of Western Europe and Canada.
> 
>         What ever you say McCarthy.

Actually, he's right.

If you want to find a 'True Believer' of Marxism, just drop on by any
college campus....

Even at a school as conservative as Purdue, I found SEVERAL professors
with posters of Marx hanging on their office walls.


> 
> >
> >> You are utilitizing a common FUD tactic: pretending that grossly
> >> out of date information is currently relevant.
> >
> >Well, I don't know what FUD is, and nothing I wrote was out-of-date.
> [deletia]
> 
>         Bullshit. Your ramblings are out of date by 70 years.
> 
> --
> 
>                                                                 |||
>                                                                / | \


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Programming
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:53:19 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I need to write a program that will tell me how long it has been since
the last reboot.  I want to get the answer in dd:hh:mm:ss format.
Thanks in advance.




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From: Linux-Addict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: USB printer with kernel 2.2.18...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:33:37 GMT

upgrade to 2.4 kernel the 2.2 kernal doesn't support to much of anything
with USB.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Ben Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to set up my epson photo 870 with redhat 7.0.  I have
built
> a new kernel with usb printer support and I have a lpd-o-matic filter
> for my printer.  In /dev/usb there is an inode
>
> crw-rw----    1 root     lp       180,   0 Aug 24 03:00 lp0
>
> I used control-panel to add the printer.  When I try to start lpd I
get
> this
>
> Starting lpd: Warning - lp: cannot open lp device '/dev/usb/lp0' - No
> such device
>
> So it seems like the kernel isn't recognizing the device at boot up.
> Has anyone gotten a usb printer to work?  If so what did you have to
> do.  This seems like a generic problem which has nothing to do with
the
> specific printer.  Thanks in advance...
>


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From: "lupei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to upgrade from workstation to server
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:46:30 -0800

Hi,

  I installed RH7.0 on a Dell inspiron4000. all looks fine except that I
selected workstation installation and I found that I can't access this
computer from outside (rlogin, rsh, ...). there is no /etc/inetd.conf. My
question is if it's possible to upgrade to server without re-doing the
installation. Is inetd the only package I need to install?

  a "networked workstation" that can not be accessed really doesn't make
sense.

  thanks

  Lupei



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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cvs permission issues
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:50:40 +0500

I have set up cvs on a server running on a home LAN (2 computers with a 
cross over). As far as I can tell I have followed instructions correctly 
for setting up a cvs server using pserver, and read instruction spectific 
to my distro RH 6.2.

>From a client I can login successfully using 
        cvs -d :pserver:cvs@<server>:/usr/local/cvsroot login

but when I try to checkout , doing
        cvs -d :pserver:cvs@<server>:/usr/local/cvsroot checkout 
<repository>

I get
        cvs server: cannot open /root/.cvsignore:Permission denied
        cvs [server aborted]: can't chdir(/root):Permisison denied

I have double checked that I have set permissions in $CVSROOT according to 
my instructions.

Please help !

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From: John Krane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Selling GPL programs
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:53:38 -0600

There are several programs downloadable
from the internet with a GPL license that are
for sale.  But I thought GPL programs were
free.  What is the true story here?


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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Selling GPL programs
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:26:47 GMT

John Krane wrote:
> 
> There are several programs downloadable
> from the internet with a GPL license that are
> for sale.  But I thought GPL programs were
> free.  What is the true story here?

It is perfectly legal to sell GP programs as long as you 
abide by the rules laid out in the GPL. The obvious one
is that if a customer asks for the source code to the
program, you must supply it.

What do you think Redhat, Mandrake, Suse etc etc are doing?

Erik
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+----------------------------------------------------------+
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real man to make them work, and a god to make them do anything useful"
  -- Anonymous

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Programming
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:27:21 GMT

Dave Barcelo wrote:
> 
> I need to write a program that will tell me how long it has been since
> the last reboot.  I want to get the answer in dd:hh:mm:ss format.
> Thanks in advance.

man uptime

Erik
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+----------------------------------------------------------+
Q: How do you stop a Windows NT machine from crashing?
A: Shut it down and switch it off.

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From: TicTacTux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you recommend a good Linux book?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:11:49 GMT

check out www.lsl.com; they have a two-volume set (>4K pages) of "Linux
the complete reference (7th ed.) for $59.90.
I have the 5th reference; one might say it's obsolete and old, but most
of it still stands...definitive 'one for the island'.

Ben

--

Use The Source, Luke!

In article <93m089$9kh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you were on a desert island with your linux box, and were able to
take
> only one reference / teaching book on Linux, what would it be???
>
> What do you think of O'Reilly's "Running Linux"  and "Linux in a
Nutshell"?
>
> I'm can't seem to find Linux tutorials that don't assume either, 1).
I've
> never seen a computer before, or 2). I am an old kernel hacker who is
> reading the manual out of boredom.
>
> I am looking for resources, both in print and online that don't
assume too
> much either way.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Greg.
>
>

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Subject: Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Kostur)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:20:12 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Peach) wrote in
<BuWd6.4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>In article <9585ln$c4v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>|>In <zmMd6.503$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Arctic Storm
>|><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|>
>|>]Anyone else tired of reading about complaints about Linux Kernel
>|>]2.4?! I was seriously thinking of upgrading to Linux Kernel 2.4, but
>|>]I'm not sure 
>|>|>]anymore.   Maybe waiting for 2.4.1, or 2.4.2, or 2.4.x maybe be
>|>|>]prudent, 
>|>]considering the problems many people are having with 2.4.
>|>
>|>General rule: Never use the first of something. It is always buggy. 
>
>Seems to me, the complaints I've seen are all a failure to RTFM - the
>CHANGES file is there for a reason :-)
>

Problems with 2.4?  I haven't noticed any myself.  I routinely run 2.4 
(patched with ReiserFS) on my Dual PIII-733 with Rambus memory as my main 
workstation, I have 2.4 on a 486 w/ 16 MB RAM as my firewall, I use 2.4 at 
work booting off of 2 floppies for some test machines.  I haven't noticed 
anything nasty on any of them.

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From: Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting the editor in pine?!
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:14:22 -0800

*** Peter Bismuti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote in comp.os.linux.misc today:

:) I use elm because it is Vi-esque.  Pine seems to be more popular but it is
:) Pico-esque.  Is it possible to run Vi(m) with Pine?!

yes, press M S C and define the following variables:

            [X]  enable-alternate-editor-cmd                
            [X]  enable-alternate-editor-implicitly         


and scroll down and define your editor:

editor                           = vim

That should do it for you.

-- 
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ALD - Assembly Language Debugger - where?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:18:00 GMT

 This Linux tool used to be available (apparently) at
 www.ellipse.magenet.com/ald.html but this link is now
 broken. Does anyone have a (recent) copy of ALD or
 knows of a new URL that works?
 TIA.
 dan


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From: Andrew Daviel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what is "wait_o" (wait_on??) state ?
Date: 31 Jan 2001 22:31:32 GMT

We have IMAP4rev1 2000.283  running under RedHat 7.0, with various
other things running on the system like sendmail, httpd, mysql etc.
but no shell users.

Recently we seem to get big peaks in system load (14 or so)
I noticed that there are several copies of imapd which "ps" reports
as being in a state of D (" uninterruptible sleep")
with WCHAN = "wait_o". (There are normally lots
of copies of imapd, but they are usually in sleep (S) state).

What is this, and why might it be happening ?

-- 
Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I don't get it...latex, bibtex, bst files
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:47:28 -0700

I don't get this.  I am trying out various bibliography style files.  I 
have downloaded a number of them from the web and saved them to my 
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/base directory.  No matter which of these bst 
files I try to use for generating my bibliography in a latex document, it 
ALWAYS fails.  

I look at the format of the files, of which I know next to nothing, and I 
see NOTHING different about them vs the bst files that work.  
The following files, for instance, come with tetex/bibtex:  plain.bst, 
apalike.bst, and so forth.  These work just fine but not a one of them 
produces a reference page of the correct format.  I have downloaded 
pnas.bst, science.bst, nature.bst, nar.bst (for nucleic acids research), 
and a host of others.  NONE of them work. 

I am using lyx.  I open up a document with citations entered from a bibtex 
bibliography database.  I select plain as my bibliography reference page 
format and it works fine.  I enter "pnas" or "nature", etc, and it ALWAYS 
fails.  Instead of producing properly formatted citations and reference 
page, my citations are replaced with "[?]"  and the reference page is 
blank.  In EVERY case, if I am running lyx from an xterm, there is a 
message like this when I try to use one of the new bst files (in this case, 
I try pnas):

I couldn't open style file pnas.bst
---line 24 of file text4.doc.aux
 : \bibstyle{pnas
 :               }
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
I found no style file---while reading file text4.doc.aux
(There were 2 error messages)

The permissions, etc, for the new bst files are the same as for those that 
work.  I see NOTHING in the text format within them that would indicate why 
they wouldn't work while those like plain.bst, etc, DO work.

What does one have to do to make a bst file frickin' work?!
-- 
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.

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From: Mike E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to upgrade from workstation to server
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:39:13 GMT

In article <95a0o2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "lupei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   I installed RH7.0 on a Dell inspiron4000. all looks fine except that
I
> selected workstation installation and I found that I can't access this
> computer from outside (rlogin, rsh, ...). there is no /etc/inetd.conf.
My
> question is if it's possible to upgrade to server without re-doing the
> installation. Is inetd the only package I need to install?
>
>   a "networked workstation" that can not be accessed really doesn't
make
> sense.
>
>   thanks
>
>   Lupei
>
>
RH 7 does not use inetd, it uses xinetd.  xinetd is more secure and has
the r programs disabled by default.  If you really want to use them
instead of the more secure versions (check out ssh which should already
be installed) then you can enable them.

Mike
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From: Lupei Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re-compiling kernel, where is the current configuration?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:59:50 -0800

Hi,

  I'd like to recompile the linux kernel (2.2.16-22) on my RH7.0 Dell
laptop. The reason is for sound
support, I am having problem compiling ALSA sound drivers (unresolved
symbols ...).  The RH7.0
was installed out of the CD and there is no linux source tree
installed.  So, I manually installed the
source tree from the tar file (linux-2.2.16-22.tar.gz). but before I
reconfigure the kernel, I'd like to
get the current configuration so that I need to only add a few change on
top of it. the question is:
where is the current configuration file kept?

  thanks

 Lupei



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From: Mike E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake vs redhat?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:48:54 GMT

In article <959i8s$jd0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) wrote:
> At my company there has been a big wave of defections from redhat to
> mandrake, which is supposed to be "redhat compliant".  One of the most
> attractive things is that mandrake has built in IBm viavoice voice
> recgonition.
>
> My concern is that the support for Mandrake is not as good as with
Redhat
> as far as mailing lists, updates on their webpage, etc, etc.
>
> Are there any opinions?  Are there any compelling reasons why I should
NOT
> switch to Mandrake and stay with (and tolerate) Redhat7.0?
>
> Thanks
>
>
IMHO, both are fine distributions and both have their glitches and
niches.  We have people here using RH and some using Mandrake (and some
using other distros) and both groups are passionate about which one they
use.  The bottom line is if you are more confortable with Mandrake you
will not loose anything by switching to it from RH.

Mike  (Mandrake 7.2)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Selling GPL programs
Date: 31 Jan 2001 23:00:49 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Krane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>There are several programs downloadable
>from the internet with a GPL license that are
>for sale.  But I thought GPL programs were
>free.  What is the true story here?

No. The license allows you to do anything including sell them. HOwever,
you MUST include the source code, and you MUST allow the buyer to make
however many copies they desire, and to give them away if they so
desire.


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