Linux-Misc Digest #30, Volume #21 Wed, 14 Jul 99 06:13:07 EDT
Contents:
linux install problem (Arie Gerszt)
Linux Software Archive + more (Never spam a hacker)
.deb repository ("akasi")
tik AOL AIM ("Joseph S. White")
Re: Free ppp access (Ilkka Ollakka)
Re: Web server information (Chris Gushue)
Re: Compaq Presario 1600? (Bruce Schultz)
Re: Good 400mhz portable (David Hinds)
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (jevv)
Re: What can't root login via telnet? (Juergen Bierlein)
Network printing problems (Michele Beltrame)
Re: .deb repository (Paul Seelig)
Config for G200 under XFree86 (Greg Roberts)
DOSEMU Boot from floppy (Nelson)
Re: Help - Deleted /var/log/* from RedHat 5.2 system! (Josef
=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6llers?=)
Re: automated ftp (Peter Caffin)
Re: .deb repository (Peter Caffin)
Debian packaging system (Andrew_Luke NESBIT)
Re: HELP:Upgrading to RedHat 6.0 "fouled" up my system ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (Michael Hasenstein)
Re: suse, RH...? (Michael Hasenstein)
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From: Arie Gerszt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux install problem
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:49:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux installation problem
Hi there
As I am a LINUX fan I wanted to install RedHat 6.0 on my system, which I
use for various applications. I have to run WinNT on it, because there
are some specific software tools which I need. In my system, there is a
17 GB IDE disk (primary master), and a IDE cdrom (sec, master). My
partition
table looks as follows:
1. Primary (C) 0-1004
2. free 1004-2500
3. data 2500-6500
4. progs 6500-8500
5. free 8500-17000
This numbers are not the cyls! They indicate the partition lengths. So
my first partition is 1004 MB, the second 1496 MB and so on. I attempted
to install LINUX on the freespace in slice 2, the installation got on
well
untill .... LILO tried to write the bootsector in the first few bytes of
the partition (MBR is owned by NT Boot Loader). LILO failed to write the
bootsector. So I could not finish the installation procedure :-(
What I would have done, if it worked, would be to copy out the bootsec
of LINUX if dd and put it into NT Boot Loader. I have done this several
times but with much smaller disks. Never any problems. LINUX is such a
great OS, why is there this problem (1024 limit?) and what can I do, are
there how-tos, faqs or any other advises for such an installation?
Thanks in advance
arie
student
ps. pls reply to email
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Never spam a hacker)
Subject: Linux Software Archive + more
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:32:12 GMT
Hi
http://mylinuxworld.cjb.net
includes a new Linux Help Forum for beginners and advanced users. This
forum is still new, so start posting. But the main feature of this
site is its software archive for Linux.
Check out this site now.
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From: "akasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .deb repository
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:17:23 +1000
I know there's rpmfind and plenty of rpms out there for all the RH users,
but is there the same kind of thing for us Debian users, or are we
restricted to using alien for the big things like WindowMaker and Netscape?
Eric
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From: "Joseph S. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tik AOL AIM
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:37:23 -0600
Hi All,
Anyone got the Tcl/Tk 8.0 AIM Client working? My problem is
I have 13 buddies added but the do not show up in the buddy
list. I show up there after I logon, but no one else. I can
edit the Buddy list and all the names are there, just don't
show in buddy list. Any Idea what is going on?
I'm running Mandrake 6.0 /Tk 8.0
Info: http://www.aim.aol.com/tik/
Thanks
Joe
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ilkka Ollakka)
Subject: Re: Free ppp access
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:45:37 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Viestiss� Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:40:13 GMT, abenage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti:
>Does anyone know of any free ppp dialup isp's in the Ft. Lauderdale, FL
>area? I'm sure many of you have heard of netzero, the free dialup isp
>for users of windows, but I am wondering if there is anything like that
>for linux.
>Thanks
>Aaron
I think that you can use that isp too,because I don't think that isp is
checking users os and give access base on that..
--
--
Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be
taught how ___not to. So it is with the great programmers.
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From: Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Web server information
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:11:03 -02-30
In alt.os.linux Peter Burden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Darren Paxton wrote:
:>
:> Hi, guys,
:>
:> Just a quickie, been searching the web and deja.com to try to find the
:> address of that site that gives information on what kind of machine a
:> server is running on.
: You could try something like (at a telnet prompt near you)
: bash$ telnet www.wlv.ac.uk 80
: Trying 134.220.1.9... <- output from telnet
: Connected to ccuf.wlv.ac.uk. <- more output from telnet
: Escape character is '^]'. <- more output from telnet
[snip]
: Connection closed by foreign host. <- etc
: If you type GET rather than HEAD you'll get the full HTML text and, wow,
: you can surf the WWW without a browser.
An easier way (if lynx is installed) is to just type something like
bash$ lynx -dump -head http://www.wlv.ac.uk
And you should get the same output (with less hassle).
You could also try http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch
Somewhere there is a link to test what webserver/os a site runs.
:>
:> Can anyone send it to me either on news or email??
:>
--
Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://home.thezone.net/~seymour
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schultz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Compaq Presario 1600?
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:36:48 -04-59
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:30:56 -0400, David J. Topper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So it seems quite obvious that the Linux laptop situation is quite
>grim. I have yet to find a vendor with a machine that has:
>
>Supported Video chipset
>Supported audio chipset
>Supported modem
>
>It seems as though most will have 2 out of 3 at best. I'd love to see a
>day where www.VENDOR.com would actually contain a page listing chipset
>specs.
Finding a supported built-in modem will be nearly impossible. I'm not
familiar with any that work. All that I've seen are winmodems. It's no
big deal. If you have a pcmcia port, you can use a pcmcia modem.
>So my latest question is about the Compaq Presario line. Do they stack
>up? How is the AMD K6-III 380 chip vs. the Portable PII-400?
I have a Presario 1230 at the office. It has an odd pcmcia controller
that some versions of the pcmcia card support can't work with, but
everything (except the winmodem, of course) works. This one has a 300
mhz Cyrix chip, I think.
My main machine is an older Fujitsu Lifebook 435DX. Everything works,
it's stable and reliable and fast enough for my needs. I don't do
computer games.
--
Bruce Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hinds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Good 400mhz portable
Date: 14 Jul 1999 06:42:06 GMT
Alex Lam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: >
: > Its been a while since I looked, but I bought an HP Omnibook, the only
: > downside is that sound won't work after going into suspend mode.
: > You can also check out of the many Linux notebooks available.
: > --
: > Tom Evans
:
: The Toshiba line should now be considered as well, Toshiba recently
: announced it's supporting Linux now.
Toshiba laptops are highly non recommended for Linux. Toshiba did not
really announce that it is supporting Linux. Some arm/subsidiary of
Toshiba has set up a web site for Linux support but it wasn't at all
clear to me that it was even an officially sanctioned effort: the web
site was poorly done and had minimal useful content. As far as I'm
concerned, they are still not cooperating.
-- Dave Hinds
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From: jevv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: 14 Jul 1999 07:31:00 GMT
Warren Bell wrote:
> I've been running RedHat 5.2 and am wondering how SuSE Linux is. It
> seems to have a lot of the same features and RPM format. Is it just as
> good as RH? Better?
>
> I just want to make sure SuSE is a good OS and works well. It seems to
> be packed with features and apps for about half the price of RH 6.0.
>
> Thanks,
> Warren Bell
Well, I think it depends on what you want to do with your Linuxbox. I think
SuSE is the better choice for a desktop machine because there are more
preconfigurated services and lots of software to play around. Anyway, they
have a kind of different boot mechanism (/sbin/init.d/) and if you are
used to slackware or RH you will end up confused :)
RH seems to me the better choice for servers - it is highly configurable
and you can download only the software you need.
BTW, SuSE has an old GNOME/Enlightenment package and it is HELL to get the
new one running :===)
cheers
jevv
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From: Juergen Bierlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What can't root login via telnet?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:57:50 +0200
Kelly Brady wrote:
>
> I have a RH 5.2 server. It is in a computer room in the building, and my
> office is downstairs. I sometimes need to login as root, but can't do this
> from my desk via telnet. I am NOT trying to telnet across the internet "in
> the clear" to manage the server.
Try to move /etc/securetty to /etc/securetty.orig
Then it should be possible to login as root.
Greets,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michele Beltrame)
Subject: Network printing problems
Date: 14 Jul 1999 08:04:51 GMT
Hi!
I'm experiencing problem priting with an EPSON EPL-N2000 Ethernet network
printer. The printer daemon often stops to send the jobs to the printer
and the commando lpq -Plp3 shows the following:
=====
layla: Warning: no daemon present
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
1st antonio 59 /tmp/antoni.a00858 65703 bytes
Printer OK
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
=====
(layla e` is the name of the computer).
Here's my /etc/printcap file:
=====
lp|optra-re|Lexmark Optra RE:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:rm=192.168.2.50:rp=public\
:sh
lp2|lanier|Lanier:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lanier:\
:rm=192.168.12.50:rp=public\
:sh
lp3|n2000|Espon EPL-N2000:\
:lp=/dev/null:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson:\
:rm=192.168.12.51:rp=public\
:sh
=====
Thanks in advance, Mickey.
--
Michele Beltrame
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.io.com/~mick/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Seelig)
Subject: Re: .deb repository
Date: 14 Jul 99 08:02:27 GMT
"akasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know there's rpmfind and plenty of rpms out there for all the RH users,
> but is there the same kind of thing for us Debian users, or are we
> restricted to using alien for the big things like WindowMaker and Netscape?
>
Ahem, what's so plain wrong about using "ftp.debian.org" or possibly
"ftp.au.debian.org"? It's all there already. For Debian there is no
need for an equivalent for "rpmfind" or similiar.
I'm running Debian since more than two years now and have never had to
use *any* external package via "alien". Debian definitely has the
most *officially* supported packages at their FTP sites, including the
latest WindowMaker and Netscape BTW.
The secret is to use selected packages from the so called "unstable"
tree. I wouldn't update any system critical parts (there is still a
problem with the latest perl) but for just a few application packages
it is usually okay. YMMV though.
Cheers, P. *8^)
--
--------- Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----------
African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany
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From: Greg Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Config for G200 under XFree86
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:19:33 GMT
Hi all. I'd like to know how people have setup their Matrox G200 (8MB)
cards under XFree86, so it runs at 32bpp? The reason is that I have a
staff member here who requires 32bpp for specific applications to run,
but the best we can get out of it is 24bpp. I've read the README.MGA
file, and I've setup /etc/X11/XF86Config with these options for the
device section:
Section "Device"
Identifier "My Video Card"
VideoRam 8192
Option "sw_cursor"
EndSection
I've added the "sw_cursor" option due to the owner complaining about
problems with the mouse cursor.
Here's the monitor setup:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Philips"
ModelName "Brilliance 107MP"
HorizSync 30-95
VertRefresh 50-160
Modeline "1024x768" 115.50 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802
-hsync -vsync
Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync
-vsync
EndSection
And here's the 32bpp setup:
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
Virtual 1024 768
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection
The machine is running RH5.2, with XFree86-3.3.3.1-1.1
Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DOSEMU Boot from floppy
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:22:45 +0800
I've installed DOSEMU under RedHat 6.0 but it can't boot from floppy
disk.
Is anyone can tell me how to do.
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From: Josef =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6llers?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Help - Deleted /var/log/* from RedHat 5.2 system!
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:47:44 +0200
Nico Zigouras wrote:
> =
> Hi folks:
> =
> I deleted /var/log from my RedHat 5.2 system and all files in that
> folder. Now all my web server access and error logs are gone and they
> are not being regenerated. My /etc/httpd/logs folder was also deleted
> of error_log and access_log. Any help? Thanks.
How would you think that log files be regenerated?
A log file is a log of events. Event passed, log generated. There is no
way of regenerating logfiles.
All you can do is regenerate the directory structure as far as this is
necessary.
Josef
-- =
PS Die hier dargestellte Meinung ist die persoenliche Meinung des
Autors!
PS This article reflects the autor=B4s personal views only!
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: automated ftp
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:35:28 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> you could create a little korn-shell script and make it executable:
> #!/bin/ksh
> ftp -n host.to.connect.to<<-!
> user username password
> cd pub/coolstuff
> binary
> lcd download
> get coolthing.exe
> bye
> !
Far better to use Expect scripts for this sort of thing, I think. It's
exactly this sort of thing that it's designed for (automating telnet
sessions is it's speciality). As you'd correctly assume, it's designed on
a send/expect paradigm.
--: _ _ _ _
_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
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/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .deb repository
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:57:44 +0800
akasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know there's rpmfind and plenty of rpms out there for all the RH users,
> but is there the same kind of thing for us Debian users, or are we
> restricted to using alien for the big things like WindowMaker
Try ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ (for current stuff) and
ftp://archive.debian.org/ (for older stuff). Hope that helps.
> and Netscape?
Netscape's a bit different. Apparently Redhat have a license to package
Communicator/Navigator, but, Debian doesn't. Debian provides a package
shell that you can use to install it, provided you've got the right
tar-ball file.
To be honest, I've just got a Netscape package shell installed and
installed the Netscape tarball by hand. Satisfies dselect when it's
trying to decide dependencies, a bit less stuffing around for the exact
tarball version. Works fine (so far *grin*).
--: _ _ _ _
_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew_Luke NESBIT)
Subject: Debian packaging system
Date: 14 Jul 1999 09:04:49 GMT
Hello!
I've been using Linux now for about six months. Started with RH 5.2,
and I found the organisation of the files from the various packages to
be a complete shambles. So, I thought, "I should try Debian 2.1"
because of its renowned and complete packaging systems. I thought
"What a great idea". Anyway, I have come to my own personal
conclusion, that the Debian packaging system, is such a complicated
method, that i feel scared to change a single file sometimes, for fear of
screwing dpkg's system. It seems to me that practically everything must
be done through dpkg. The whole thing just seems way too convoluted
and complicated, especially for my standalone machine which I use at
home, basically just to do TeX and C/C++.
Granted, Debian is very well planned, and everything works, but I just
wish that the designers had've followed the keep-it-simple principle,
which is why I am now changing to (my third distro) Slackware 4.0.
Has anybody else out there had any similar experiences?
Andrew
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP:Upgrading to RedHat 6.0 "fouled" up my system
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:16:10 +0200
Tom wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just purchased the the RedHat 6.0 core system upgrade. Unfortunately,
> it did not come with a boot floppy. That seems pretty lame, since in the
> installation manual it says that if I am running an Intel based system,
> which I am, then I will need to use a boot floppy.
It _is_ pretty lame.
But contrary to the other post I would think that the boot images are
on the CD-ROM you purchased. Something like /cdrom/images/boot.img.
You then need a floppy (format it prior to upgrading to make sure it�s
working), then you can write the image with "dd
if=/cdrom/images/boot.img of=/dev/fd0" to the floppy. The dd-command is
dangerous, so please read the man page!
If you purchased a CD, documentation for upgrading can be found on the
CD (I think).
Oliver
#include <std-disclaimer>
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From: Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:07:24 +0200
jevv wrote:
> Well, I think it depends on what you want to do with your Linuxbox. I think
> SuSE is the better choice for a desktop machine because there are more
> preconfigurated services and lots of software to play around. Anyway, they
> have a kind of different boot mechanism (/sbin/init.d/) and if you are
> used to slackware or RH you will end up confused :)
The difference is that all the links in
/etc/rc.d/rc(runlevel).d/(S|K)??script are already there for all
packages and that a variable in /etc/rc.config (e.g. START_HTTPD="yes")
is tested at the beginning of the script and determines if a service is
started. In other systems you control that by creating/deleting these
links. If a link (e.g. S20httpd -> ../init.d/httpd) doesn't exist the
service won't start. A difference, but not much, and in the end only a
matter of personal taste. I don't see how any of the two
not-that-much-different methods could be a problem for anyone - unless
they have so little Unix knowlegde that they've problems with the system
anyway.
> RH seems to me the better choice for servers - it is highly configurable
> and you can download only the software you need.
??? you can do exactly the same with suse. Same config files (e.g. samba
or apache have the same smb.conf/httpd.conf in any Linux distribution,
same with everything else). Same packages (rpm), so installing/removing
individual packages is not different. Your statement is not based on any
facts.
> BTW, SuSE has an old GNOME/Enlightenment package and it is HELL to get the
> new one running :===)
ok, true, we should be better at providing gnome updates...
--
Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/
Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998
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From: Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suse, RH...?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:41:48 +0200
Alex Lam wrote:
> > My SUSe locks up on me repeatedly in Xwindows. At times it won't even
> > completely boot up. there are times when it just sits idle and a bunch of
> > hex datra will just show up? Anyone experience this? could it just be a
> > hardware configuration thing? I thought this OS was supposed to be stable.
Sounds like a hardware issue. You won't believe how much can be traced
to hardware problems these days, with the boards operating at a
frequency range usually reserved for radio. And most of the time it is
not a component that can be blamed, but it's the particular combination
that doesn't work. Like the story about the new TNT2 graphic cards (I
believ it was them) that don't work reliably on some motherboards
because they need more power than the board can supply...
> > The documentation is some of the worst I've ever come across.
Ok, of course it can be improved. On the other hand, there are people
saying the exact opposite...
PS: private posting, despite the From-address.
--
Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/
Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998
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