Linux-Misc Digest #30, Volume #28 Mon, 4 Jun 01 17:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: unstable kernel after recompile ("Bluesky")
Re: unstable kernel after recompile ("Bluesky")
Re: Num Lock (Yvan Loranger)
Re: How do I get French (Canada) keyboard to work in SuiSe 7.1? (Yvan Loranger)
Console blanks after time but can't figure out how to disable (wb0gaz)
linux (william)
Re: linux (Jan Schaumann)
Re: See a man file (Jan Schaumann)
KDevelop cant find qt>=1.42 <2.0 (Anton Suchaneck)
Re: linux (Grant Edwards)
Re: See a man file (Grant Edwards)
Re: running X applications as root after /bin/su (Alex Yung)
dmesg VFS error (Ed Warnken)
Re: Console blanks after time but can't figure out how to disable (Michael Heiming)
Re: dmesg VFS error (Michael Heiming)
Re: How to do manual (or minimal) install of RH ? (Jason Lott)
phone support for rh linux. ("Liverpool_fc")
Re: Getting the Philips Vesta pro integrated microphone functionning (Nicotine)
Re: phone support for rh linux. (LinuxBear)
Re: netscape and cache (faeychyld)
writing basic batch commands? (newbie alert) ("LRW")
increasing ulimit for core files (Steve Allan)
Re: linux (Chris Bragg)
Re: writing basic batch commands? (newbie alert) (Michael Heiming)
Re: Linux - ok, which one? (Michael Lee Yohe)
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From: "Bluesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unstable kernel after recompile
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:57:37 +0900
"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 17 May 2001 13:14:48 +0900, SilentNight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > There is a feeling of weirdness in my experience with recompiling the
> > kernel.
>
David
> Set your wordwrap to less than 80 col if possible.
>
sorry, sometimes I just type without looking if the lines are too long.
I will try to remember this.
...snipped..
David
> When you experiment, you should always set lilo.conf to be able to boot a
> working stable (possibly original) kernel as an alternate, so you have
> something to boot to if you misconfigure the kernel or forget to run lilo.
>
I always run lilo after recompilling; but often I reinstall and play one
change
at a time. Maybe I need more time, and errors, before I can weed them out.
Thanks for your suggestions.
SN
> --
> David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Bluesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unstable kernel after recompile
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:59:45 +0900
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> SilentNight wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There is a feeling of weirdness in my experience with recompiling the
> > kernel.
> >
> > The first time I recompiled it about just a little more than a week ago,
I
> > was
> > nervous, reading here and there that it might not work, and the system
might
> > not boot. Yet, it booted perfectly.
> >
> > However, as I go on reading further, experimenting further with each
item in
> > the xconfig menu, the result is more unstable system. More often, the
> > recompilation
> > ends with no boot, or flickering every one or two seconds, or suddenly
> > loosing
> > support for mouse, cannot mount floppy, other hard disk even all
fiesystems
> > intended to be supported are selected in the process.
> >
> > Is this all too accidental ? Or some selection may have conflict with
other
> > options ?
> >
>
Glitch
> why don't you loook at your log files and see if anything is being
> reported?
yes, but probably I need to check again the kernel configuration.
SN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Num Lock
Date: 4 Jun 2001 18:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Pete Clements ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> This is a real quickie, but can someone tell me which script to edit
> to set the numlock status on boot up.
In /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
for t in 1 2 3 4 5 6
do
setleds +num < /dev/tty$t
done
--
Merci........Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: How do I get French (Canada) keyboard to work in SuiSe 7.1?
Date: 4 Jun 2001 18:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
"Peter Szatmari" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I have yet to see any distro that properly deals with my keyboard - Hewlett
> Packard, French Canadian -. Why is this such a problem in Linux? This time
> I'm trying SuSe 7.1 Evaluation CD. For the first time all my devices work
> without a hitch except that blasted keyboard. The reason is obvious: SuSe
> doesn't know that French is one of the languages in Canada and this key map
> is not even available to choose. In Red Hat and Mandrake the choice was
> available but didn't work properly, some keys were incorrectly mapped. In
> Mandrake the map was almost perfect in KDE but totally wrong in a command
> window. Is there a way to retrofit any distro in this regard or do I need
> to purchase another keyboard to use Linux?
In /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
setfont lat1-16.psfu # or another latin font file
loadkeys cf.map
For X, you modify XF86Config file.
--
Merci........Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wb0gaz)
Subject: Console blanks after time but can't figure out how to disable
Date: 4 Jun 2001 11:25:22 -0700
For any linux box I've set up the CRT/LCD console will blank (screen-
saver style) after some amount of time, even running character mode
single user, etc. Where/how is this configured, as I need the console(s)
to be displaying continuously.
Tnx,
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: william <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:30:09 -0000
Is there a Linux dist that's only graphical, all I want to do is point
at something with a mouse. I don't want to invent a new system or change
anything.I don't care if they operate the same, all I want is a choice.
When I go in a store to buy whatever,I have a choice of brands or when I
buy a car, the same motor is not in every brand. I have no intention of
learning Dos all over again.
Thank You
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:59:22 -0000
* william wrote:
> Is there a Linux dist that's only graphical, all I want to do is point
> at something with a mouse. I don't want to invent a new system or change
> anything.I don't care if they operate the same, all I want is a choice.
You have a choice:
Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows XP, MacOS
pick one.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://www.netmeister.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: See a man file
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:01:35 -0000
* jose luis fernandez diaz wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a file (cppp.1) and I want see it with 'man'. If I do 'file
> cppp.1', the system shows this:
>
> cppp.1: troff or preprocessor input text
>
> How can I see that file with man ?
man ./cppp.1
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://www.netmeister.org
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From: Anton Suchaneck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDevelop cant find qt>=1.42 <2.0
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 20:10:15 +0100
Hello,
I tried to create a new project with kdevelop 1.2 (SuSE 7.0), but although
I have qtdevel-1.45 and qtlib-1.45 installed it keeps saying
"checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries)
not found. Please check your installation! "
My $QTDIR is on /usr/lib/qt and this directory is the one qt is installed
in. Anyone knows an advice?
Bye
Anton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:06:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>* william wrote:
>> Is there a Linux dist that's only graphical, all I want to do is point
>> at something with a mouse. I don't want to invent a new system or change
>> anything.I don't care if they operate the same, all I want is a choice.
>
>You have a choice:
>
>Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows XP, MacOS
>
>pick one.
How's BeOS these days?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Do you like "TENDER
at VITTLES"?
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: See a man file
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:07:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Schaumann wrote:
>* jose luis fernandez diaz wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a file (cppp.1) and I want see it with 'man'. If I do 'file
>> cppp.1', the system shows this:
>>
>> cppp.1: troff or preprocessor input text
>>
>> How can I see that file with man ?
>
>man ./cppp.1
Damn, _that_ was just too obvious!
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! My uncle Murray
at conquered Egypt in 53
visi.com B.C. And I can prove
it too!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Subject: Re: running X applications as root after /bin/su
Date: 4 Jun 2001 19:00:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
These 2 lines will fix your problem:
export DISPLAY=:0.0
xauth -f /home/userBeforeSU/.Xauthority extract - $DISPLAY | xauth merge -
wroot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: For some reason, I can't run X applications as root after doing /bin/su
: (permission denied). How can I fix it. My distro is Debian Potato.
: Wroot
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From: Ed Warnken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dmesg VFS error
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:00:35 -0600
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:20:29 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Console blanks after time but can't figure out how to disable
wb0gaz wrote:
>
> For any linux box I've set up the CRT/LCD console will blank (screen-
> saver style) after some amount of time, even running character mode
> single user, etc. Where/how is this configured, as I need the console(s)
> to be displaying continuously.
>
> Tnx,
>
> Dave
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man setterm
be sure to check the -blank option...
Michael Heiming
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:24:02 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dmesg VFS error
Ed Warnken wrote:
>
> Anybody know what causes the following error message?
>
> VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0)
Looks for me, as if you had changed the cdrom in your
cdrom drive, so it's not a real error message...
Please don't attach any kind of "v-cards" to your posts.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: Jason Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to do manual (or minimal) install of RH ?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:30:00 -0500
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:21:30 -0400, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd like to install RH 6.1 (or any version) on a laptop with limited HD
>space. There are a lot of packages that RedHat installs by default,
>even when not selected in a custom install! Does anyone know how to
>manually install RedHat so that I can only install what I really need?
>I prefer RedHat because all of my boxes are running it.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>Ron
Custom Install, then check the box to "select individual packages"... It can
be time consuming because of the "organization", but it does provide the
opportunity to strip away the extra packages that aren't used.
Of course the installer will perform dependency checks after the selections
are made, for which the decision will have to be made as to whether or not
you want to satisfy the dependencies or go back to make further changes.
Be sure to read the individual package descriptions to make sure that the
system can live without them. Another good source of info would be the
document "Optimizing & Securing Linux 1.3" from
http://www.linuxdoc.org/guides.html ... Though it addresses optimizing/
securing Redhat 6.x servers it can be easily adapted to workstations
(especially the sections package selection, manual configuration and optimization).
Hope this helps a little bit...
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From: "Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: phone support for rh linux.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:46:31 -0400
hello,
phone support by rh is $325 per incident. does anyone know of any company
offering phone support for linux at a much lower cost?
thank you.
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From: Nicotine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting the Philips Vesta pro integrated microphone functionning
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:58:31 +0200
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 19:03:44 +0200, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Nicotine wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone got the microphone for Philips Vesta pro Webcam working
>> and how ?
>> I loaded both the pwc and audio module on a MDK8 with kernel 2.4.4-6.
>> The video works very well but not the microphone. :-((
>>
>> A external microphone plugged in my SB Live value soundcard is
>> functionning perfectly well on /dev/dsp. I tried /dev/dsp1 for the
>> integrated microphone but with no result. I also created /dev/dsp2, 3
>> and 4 but they do not work either...
>>
>> On /dev/dsp2 I have the following error message : ioctl set dupleix :
>> Inappropriate ioctl for device...
>
>Hi!
>
>I've got the same webcam, but on my system it isn't working at all.
>My kernel is 2.4.5. and my pc is an i686.
>For help I would be very thankful.
>
>CU, Dennis.
Well... I was waiting for help ! ;o)
Anyway, explain me what is your problem ? And I'll try to see what I
can do for you...
Jean Philippe
Ps: have you got the drivers for there :
http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
Nicotine
---
Enfin j'y suis, je persevere !
Tant mieux, un jour tu deviendras grand, mon petit !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LinuxBear)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: phone support for rh linux.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:59:25 GMT
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:46:31 -0400, Liverpool_fc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> phone support by rh is $325 per incident. does anyone know of any company
> offering phone support for linux at a much lower cost?
>
> thank you.
>
>
>
Who does Red Hat think they are, Microsoft?
--
LinuxBear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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{~._.~}
_( Y )_
(:_~*~_:)
(_)-(_)
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:19:36 +1000
From: faeychyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape and cache
bowman wrote:
>
> "faeychyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > When I return from a link to the
> > source page with netscape, it seems
> > to download the damm thing from the
> > net again.
>
> all sites? you can set the expiration date on a page so it will (hopefully)
> reload everytime, and this is done quite often for pages with changing
> content.
Nope! all sites. This is immediate.
Surely if I connect to a site, then click on
a link, read the link page then click on "back"
to return to the previous page, it should
load from the cache and not reload from the
net.
But it does not, I can watch the progress indicator
on the corner of the window displaying the download
including infuriatingly "stalled ".
What use is the cache?
--
-
-
-
Regards F
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From: "LRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: writing basic batch commands? (newbie alert)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:31:09 -0500
I've been trying to look around, but can't really find anything on it. I
know I'm just not looking right. Man's, HOW-TO's, nothing comes really close
in my guessing what topic it would be under. But basically I need some basic
help in writing simple batched command scripts.
For example, I want to make a script to create a user and make a password:
#useradd -m <newuser>
#passwd <newuser>
With it prompting for the <newuser> name once to use in both lines.
Playing around I made a file that has those lines, chmod'd it to be
executable, and it works but of course, only with whatever name I put in the
file in place of <newuser>. So I need to know how to get a file to prompt
for a user,
OR better yet, to take what's put in the command line at the same time.
For example if I named the above file "ua", and I could type at the prompt:
#ua fred
It would complete the two commands using "fred" as the username.
Anyway, if anyone knows the MAN or HOW-TO that would explain this, or a doc
on the web, I would be REALLY appreciative!
Thanks!
Liam
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Subject: increasing ulimit for core files
From: Steve Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:33:29 GMT
I'm running RedHat 6.2 in a development environment and I need to
allow developers to write core files. The problem is the default
ulimit settings are different for a user when logged in directly to
the console versus logged in remotely:
# console
% ulimit -H -c
unlimited
% ulimit -S -c
1000000
# telnet session
% ulimit -H -c
0
% ulimit -S -c
0
The 1000000 soft limit is being set in /etc/profile, but it fails for
remote logins with the message
bash: ulimit: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted
because the hard limit is set to 0 for a remote login, so users cannot
increase it. Does anyone know how/why/where this is set, or how I can
change this behavior?
Thanks.
--
-- Steve __
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From: Chris Bragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:39:42 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:30:09 -0000, william wrote:
> Is there a Linux dist that's only graphical, all I want to do is point
> at something with a mouse. I don't want to invent a new system or change
> anything.I don't care if they operate the same, all I want is a choice.
>
> When I go in a store to buy whatever,I have a choice of brands or when I
> buy a car, the same motor is not in every brand. I have no intention of
> learning Dos all over again.
> Thank You
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
I'll save you the trouble of looking any further for an answer. Linux is
not for you. Not because it is too difficult to use, or install, or figure
out, or that there are no apps for it, or that you can't point-and-click...
but because you've already made up your mind that you don't want to learn
anything new. Do yourself a favor and stick with what you have. You'll be
better off. (Unless of course you change your outlook on things).
--
Chris Bragg
OS: SuSE Linux 7.1
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:48:51 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: writing basic batch commands? (newbie alert)
LRW wrote:
>
> I've been trying to look around, but can't really find anything on it. I
> know I'm just not looking right. Man's, HOW-TO's, nothing comes really close
> in my guessing what topic it would be under. But basically I need some basic
> help in writing simple batched command scripts.
>
> For example, I want to make a script to create a user and make a password:
> #useradd -m <newuser>
> #passwd <newuser>
>
> With it prompting for the <newuser> name once to use in both lines.
> Playing around I made a file that has those lines, chmod'd it to be
> executable, and it works but of course, only with whatever name I put in the
> file in place of <newuser>. So I need to know how to get a file to prompt
> for a user,
> OR better yet, to take what's put in the command line at the same time.
> For example if I named the above file "ua", and I could type at the prompt:
> #ua fred
> It would complete the two commands using "fred" as the username.
>
> Anyway, if anyone knows the MAN or HOW-TO that would explain this, or a doc
> on the web, I would be REALLY appreciative!
> Thanks!
>
> Liam
Try (untested):
#!/bin/bash
USER=${1}
useradd -m $USER
passwd $USER
Run it
./scriptname username
There is a Bash HowTo and some starting points, considering shell
scripting.
Search linuxdoc.org and google.com, I'm sure you'll find some docs
or/and if you're serious, take a look at some good books...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: Michael Lee Yohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - ok, which one?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:32:04 -0500
> Webserver (Apache - might want to add Tomcat too, not sure; maybe PHP;
> anyway, redhat has Apache..)
> - attached to a database - mysql? pgsql? not sure..
Red Hat Linux 7.1 comes with Apache, PHP (old and new), and the
databases you require.
> FTP server (I guess redhat comes with one, but I can't figure out what it is
> or what its called) And general screwing around with Linux... HTML editor,
> graphics editor, web browser, etc. etc.
Red Hat Linux 7.1 comes with both Netscape Communicator 4.76 (4.77 is
available via up2date) and Mozilla. I would recommend that you go ahead
and upgrade from the Mozilla that comes with the distribution to 0.9
(www.mozilla.org - RPM is available). Both packages come with an HTML
editor and brower.
The Gimp (an open-source image editor comparable to Adobe Photoshop)
also comes with Red Hat Linux 7.1.
> Question #1)
> WHICH DISTRIBUTION? There are so many... maybe choice IS a bad thing!
People have varying preferences on Linux distributions. Since no
company (seemingly) has perfected the end-user, consumer Linux the
question is really not an easy one.
Mandrake has its foundation in Red Hat's own distribution - they also
package it with their own special utilities and tools to make it easier
to configure and setup your system.
> Question #2)
> KDE or GNOME? I want one of them. What's the friggin' difference? Why is
> RedHat Installer asking ME which one to install?
GNOME is based on GTK+ (the Gimp Tool[k]it) - GTK+ is a type of library
that makes writing visual applications for Linux easier. GTK+ is a
versatile, but still in development library.
KDE is based on QT - QT is common, popular library that renders visual
objects for Linux.
I like GNOME - it is extremely flexible and, with Ximian's
(www.ximian.com) release of GNOME 1.4, it is sleek and very nice to use
(using Nautilus/Mozilla as its core). And, GNOME can mimic KDE's
interface directly (an option you won't find with KDE).
But, Konqueror (the file browser with KDE) is very powerful and has its
own following of fans that make KDE the major contender for Linux
desktop dominance.
I imagine Red Hat asking _you_ which desktop you want to use because it
is giving you the option, letting YOU decide which desktop - which is
what most Linux users come to appreciate, right? :)
--
Michael Lee Yohe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Software Developer, Engineering Services
Red Hat, Inc.
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