Linux-Misc Digest #86, Volume #21 Mon, 19 Jul 99 18:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Anthony Ord)
Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft? (toby)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Realaudio (Leonard Evens)
Datestamp in /var/log/messages (Warren Bell)
how can I disallow one username being telnet or ftp to? (bono)
Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux (Edward Vigmond)
wmaker soundserver "error on play event" (Eric Wick)
Re: root password (Leonard Evens)
Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help? (coffee)
Re: how can I disallow one username being telnet or ftp to? (Perry Pip)
video timings needed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft? (Darryl L. Pierce)
Data Corruption Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to disable direct login in front of Monitor? (Gus Hartmann)
Automatic RPM dependency installing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Datestamp in /var/log/messages (Geoff Short)
ASP locks out NS? (Stephen Thomas)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Chris Lee)
Re: mandrake - setting default os in LILO (Birk bremer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:02:46 GMT
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 03:11:11 GMT, "Jeffrey D. Webster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anthony Ord wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:58:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >Is this guy right on the money regarding the mentioned shortcomings
>> >of Linux?
>>
>> No he isn't "right on the money" in a number of areas.
>>
>> >In article <7mkmun$knv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > Holger Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
>> >>which by itself is not
>> >> bad, of course, but IMHO makes it unsuitable for use in
>> >> multimedia convergence systems and vertical markets.
>>
>> What does a TCPIP stack specifically have to do with
>> multimedia? Is this just one of those "let's put a hype word
>> in here because it looks k3wl"?
>
> Uh. Wow. How does that foot taste?
>
> He didn't say "multimedia", he said "multimedia CONVERGENCE" [emphasis
>mine]. And that concept, as per Amiga's definition, CLEARLY states that
>streaming audio and video are part of their focus. Guess what! STREAMING
>video, and STREAMING audio over a network connection will require TCP/IP!
>Hrm, what does multimedia have to do with a TCP/IP stack, specifically?
That's not the question I asked: I asked "What does a TCPIP
stack specifically have to do with multimedia?", the
dependance is the other way round.
Semantics *ARE* important in communication.
If you don't understand the difference between the two
questions, try:
"What would cars be without roads?"
"What would roads be without cars?"
I hope you can see that they are two different questions.
You can - can't you?
> Tell me!
Answer my question. You've already answered your own, which
you tried to pass off as being mine.
> Oh, and there's this:
>
>>> --
>>> Holger Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.nordicglobal.com
>>> NO COMMERCIAL SOLICITATION !
>>
>>And that boys and girls was an example of how to write FUD
>>to obscure your motivations. I hope you are suitably
>>impressed and have learned from it.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Anthony
>
> And that, boys and girls, was an example of FIMS. Someone flaming
>someone else without first having a grasp on the context.
I am flaming him for raging inaccuracy, for example "(e.g.
DHCP, a Microsoft-invented extension to BootP)."
You do understand that the above statement is inaccurate -
don't you?
And also "In any case, direct bugs are not really the main
issue. The problem is that Amiga Inc. needs a TCP/IP kernel
that is very solid, well peer-reviewed, well extensible,
widely used, well-understood, professionally maintained etc.
>From my point of view Linux simply does not fit into that
category It is maintained by hobby programmers,"
When the main guy for that area is paid by Red Hat for his
work in that (and other) areas.
To claim the Linux TCP/IP stack is not solid, peer-reviewed,
extensible and widely used is ludicrous. It may not be to
his taste, but the above is plainly and simply wrong.
>(F.I.M.S. - Foot In Mouth Syndrome)
So you are defending inaccuracies? Why don't you post a
message saying "The Linux TCPIP kernel isn't widely used."
People deserve a good laugh (especially when it is being
compared to *BSD which has many fewer "seats").
Note: I have nothing against *BSD. I certainly would be
against *BSD and Linux becoming one OS.
>Regards,
>Jeffrey D. Webster
Regards
Anthony
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| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:25:51 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JY wrote:
> who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
Trolling. Trolling. Trolling.
T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:12:15 GMT
Are you *sure* that comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,
comp.os.linux.advocacy, and gnu.misc.discuss are the best groups to
discuss this? I'm sure that the conversation has *nothing* to do with
Linux, and doesn't seem to have anything to do with ms-windows or GNU.
On 19 Jul 1999 18:53:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashley Penney) wrote:
[very big snip of off-topic material]
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Realaudio
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:45:25 -0500
"Drew A. Dunn" wrote:
>
> Has anyone been able to get Realaudio to work under redhat 6.0? If so,
> could you please help.
>
> Drew
There has been extensive discussion of this issue in this
newsgroup. Try dejanews to get earlier postings. Briefly,
the rpm package that worked under RH5.X no longer works.
There are versions of G2 which can be found at obscure
places on the Realaudio web site. Locations are to be
found in the previous postings. But Realaudio is presumably
still working on it, so it is probably best to wait, and
it will become available as a standard package.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:52:14 -0700
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Datestamp in /var/log/messages
I'm sending the output of a script to /var/log/messages. When it writes
to the file it doesn't stamp the date in front of the message like the
rest of the messages. Does anyone know how I can do this?
Example:
Jul 19 08:38:20 linux kernel: Swansea University Computer Society IPX
0.34 for NET3.035
Jul 19 08:38:20 linux kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera,
Inc.
Jul 19 08:38:20 linux kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
Jul 19 08:42:06 linux PAM_pwdb[495]: (su) session opened for user root
by (uid=0)
Adding new ip to DYNDNS.ORG.. # my additions
Success! New IP: 209.142.xx.xx # < -------
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From: bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how can I disallow one username being telnet or ftp to?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:56:50 -0700
hi:
I am wonder how can I disallow one of my username being telnet or ftp
to? I tried to swtich the "account enable" checkbox in the Linuxconf
but the next time I go back into it the switch for enable is on again?
Is this a bug or I have to do something else? I do not want to kill the
username as I should do but I need to have the account on but just no
one can access to it.
Thank you,
Bono: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:16:57 GMT
Norman Levin wrote:
>
> I'm browsing thru the /usr/bin directory and finding a million
> symbolic links to file IN THE SAME DIRECTORY! Why are we wasting an inode?
>
> Why aren't these regular links? It is not like they are links to other
> directory's
> that might eventually become separate filesystems. This are links in the same
> directory!
Maybe it is the same program which runs differently when called by
different names. Maybe that if one wants to change the program one only
needs to replace one copy. With hard links, you have to make sure that
you delete every copy before you upgrade and then redo the links. It is
thus possible to err and end up with two different versions of the
program when there should only be one. Besides, inodes are cheap.
--
Edward Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eric Wick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wmaker soundserver "error on play event"
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:25:40 +0200
Hello,
just installed the wmaker 0.60 and the 0.9.5 wmsoundserver. Started from
a xterm, i will see "error on play event" when a event should come up,
nut no tone. The wmss was setted up well, all soundfiles with full path
and it plays when pressing the play-button.
When running the wmsoundserver, the nmaker cannot play any samples.
Without wmsoundserver it can play, looks like a blocked audiodevice.
System is a debian 2.1
Problems are not UID dependend, root will get no sound as all users.
What maybe the problem here?
--
Und tschuess und wech
Eric
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: root password
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:28:42 -0500
Brad Ball wrote:
>
> >Quiney, Philip (EXCHANGE:HAL02:HM10) wrote in message >
> >You can start the system in single user mode. At the LILO prompt type:
> >linux single
> >
> >When it finishes you will have a shell as root already logged in. You
>
> WHAT!? Is this true? I must be missing something because this would be a
> HUGE security hole. There should be no way of getting root access without
> entering the root password. Can someone confirm/deny/explain the above?
>
> Brad.
I just checked my laptop, and I was not prompted for a root
password, but I seem to remember being so prompted on other
machines in the past.
I would also like to know whether there is some way to configure
this. As someone pointed out, it is certainly the case that
physical access to the machine is more effective than root
access, but in many communal settings, it would be awkward to
seize a machine in this way. Just rebooting and entering
linux single
is much simpler and could tempt someone who was not necessarily
bent on evil but just in a hurry. Such a person could do damage
without intending to.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:54:46 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I think this topic has been mentioned before but I cannot track down an
> answer in any of the newsgroups. Help would be appreciated.
>
> When inserting a DDS3 tape into a HP surestore drive, it just goes in
> and then comes straight back out again. I did once manage to get a tape
> loaded, but all attempts since then have failed.
> It is connected to an Adaptec SCSI controller, and I am running RedHat
> 5.1
Usually when Ive ran into this problem its because the tape drive cannot
find the beginning of the tape. This is most likely a dust problem. At
the company where I work we have a big problem with Surestore dat 8
drives failing in the same mannor because of a high dust problem.
The solution I came up with was quite simple. Disassemble and clean the
gears.
1. Take off the top to the drive and hook it up to power and insert a
tape. Watch to see if there is alot of slack in the take up reel when it
searches for the beginning of the tape.
The drive should make several attempts to find the beginning of the tape
and you will notice that the take up reel doesnt take up all the slack.
This is because there is dirt/dust on the gears below the reels.
Its not too hard to take them apart and clean them.
--
coffee at indy dot net * ICQ 1614986
Kokomo, Indiana, USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: how can I disallow one username being telnet or ftp to?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:44:48 GMT
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:56:50 -0700, bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi:
>
>I am wonder how can I disallow one of my username being telnet or ftp
>to? I tried to swtich the "account enable" checkbox in the Linuxconf
>but the next time I go back into it the switch for enable is on again?
>Is this a bug or I have to do something else? I do not want to kill the
>username as I should do but I need to have the account on but just no
>one can access to it.
>
passwd -l <username>
Will disable all logins to the account.
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: video timings needed
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:02:18 GMT
I can not run a fine X session with my LG Studioworks 44i monitor.
It does not run well with the standard timings, xvidtune did not help.
I've tried to calculate the video timings as is described in Video
timings HOWTO, but it's still bad
So can someone help me with the correct video timings for this monitor?
*I'm bulgarian, so sorry for the poor english :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darryl L. Pierce)
Subject: Re: who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:28:00 GMT
On 11 Jul 1999 08:14:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JY) wrote:
;who makes the best Linux? Microsoft?
Depends on which troll you talk to, really...
Is mise le meas,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Data Corruption Problem
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:23:16 GMT
Hi,
I need the help of some Linux gurus :). I wrote a small application
for use in our disk drive compatibility lab and I'm seeing data
corruption when using Redhat 6.0 (ran fine w/5.2). The test merely
does multi-process write pattern/compare exercising on the drive.
The problem seems to be on some level Linux caches and merges
sequential write requests and in doing so corrupts data. I've got a
SCSI logic trace showing corruption in the concantenated 64K SCSI
writes of my multiple 2Kish write() requests. I've tried with some
recent kernels, but still no change. Can anyone give me a pointer or
some information on resolving this issue?
Many thanks in advance.
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to disable direct login in front of Monitor?
Date: 19 Jul 1999 20:08:04 GMT
Y.C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a linux box running kernel 2.2.10. This box ususally is
> maintained by remote login.
> Since it hardly login directly in front of Monitor and consider Monitor
> as a security hole. I would like to disable login access in front of
> Monitor, but keep remote login available. Is there anyone know how to do
> that?
Disabling the console logins can be done in /etc/inittab . Look
for a section that runs getty (or mingetty, or agetty, etc.), and
comment out all the entries that start with numbers.
It should be noted that this can make things very difficult in
case of emergency maintenance; if console logins must be disabled, it is
worth considering enabling a serial console for emergency on-site logins.
--
Gus
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He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatic RPM dependency installing?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:19:55 GMT
In my workplace, there are quite a few Redhat 6 boxes, each which were
installed with different packages. We have a local mirror of RedHat on
a NFS exported directory as well as an other-RPM directory which
contains non-redhat rpm's (like ssh or one's we've built, etc.).
Is there a program that will install a given RPM (including checking for
dependencies and installing them if need be), given supplied NFS
locations (or mounted dirs)?
We want to be able to ask Mr. non-Linux-savvy to just call this program
and have his system updated without having to deal with locating
dependencies or playing with rpm.
Thanks!
Charles Yang
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Short)
Subject: Re: Datestamp in /var/log/messages
Date: 19 Jul 1999 21:12:53 GMT
Perry Pip ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:52:14 -0700, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >I'm sending the output of a script to /var/log/messages. When it writes
: >to the file it doesn't stamp the date in front of the message like the
: >rest of the messages. Does anyone know how I can do this?
Don't just add stuff to the end of the files, send them through the
syslogd like you're supposed to. It will add a datestamp, thread
messages from different sources together, prevent loss of data etc.
If you're doing it from within a program, use syslog(3); if you are
using a shell command then pipe it to logger(1).
Geoff
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Ever sit and watch ants? They're always busy with Geoff Short
something, never stop for a moment. I just [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stephen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ASP locks out NS?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:13:18 -0400
When I try to access a MS security bulletin, such as
http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/
I am met with the pleasant error message:
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'
Type mismatch: 'CInt'
/security/inc/scripts.txt, line 279
I'm using NS communicator via Linux and run Junkbuster. However, I get
the same error if I try the same URL via lynx, although it asked to
generate a cookie. Is this an example of ASP not working with any
browser or some more cookie nonsense? Why would they even need to use a
cookie for me to view a security bulletin? This is obviously annoying.
Comments or suggestions welcome directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 19 Jul 1999 22:00:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>On 18 Jul 1999 18:00:18 GMT, Holger Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>In comp.sys.amiga.misc Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> It is maintained by hobby programmers,
>>But it does work. MS-CHAP was extremely unpopular, broke
>>some PPP implementations, has major security flaws (even in
>>V2), yet Microsoft pushed it through by implementing it
>>in 95/98/NT, and now everybody is using it.
>
>Not everybody - not by a long way.
Tell me about it. My brother-in-law's linux machine connects to an NT 4.0
server via a dial-up using PAP.
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From: Birk bremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake - setting default os in LILO
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:30:59 +0200
Al Riley wrote:
>
> Though I would prefer to just boot Linux, there are a lot of power
> interrupts where I am do it is safer to have winblows as the defult
> booted os however I'm not sure how to change lilo.conf to do this?
Its alway the first entry who is booted for dafault.
change the lilo config and call lilo
Birk
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