Linux-Misc Digest #86, Volume #26 Fri, 20 Oct 00 01:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: P.I.M.s? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel? ("David ....")
Re: Help for new Linux users (jeff)
What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Apache: IP of website? ("Micer")
Increase RAM in RedHat Linux ("Micer")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Linux PDA ("Harold R. Hickey Jr.")
Re: *.bin files??? (Carl Fink)
Re: SuSE6.4 and crashing netscape (Michel Catudal)
Re: Apache: IP of website? (David Efflandt)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Andrew J. Perrin)
Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ... (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel? (Paul Kimoto)
wrong major or minor number ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux ("David ....")
Re: Linux accessing a printer hooked to ethernet. (John Jordan)
ppp problem ("Larry Krigbaum")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Praedor Tempus)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: P.I.M.s?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:10:54 GMT
In our last episode (Wed, 18 Oct 2000 22:21:52 -0700),
the artist formerly known as E J said:
>korganizer.
>kpilot will work with korganizer. The only problem is that it does not
>keep secret palm pilot entries secret.
The secrecy was illusory, anyways.
The HotSync protocol does, to secure those "secret" entries, _Precisely
Nothing_.
If a program asks to download "private" entries, then the PalmOS device
will quite happily pass on those entries.
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Nobody can fix the economy. Nobody can be trusted with their finger
on the button. Nobody's perfect. VOTE FOR NOBODY.
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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:04:54 -0400
Daniel Cave wrote:
>
> Guys.
>
> (please excuse x-posting)
>
> Im stuck on this what seems an obvious resolution, but how do i able my box
> to see 256 mg instead of the first 64 mg of ram in my system?
>
> Ive tried permutations of
>
> mem=256m/256 in /etc/lilo.conf, but no avail..
>
> using RH6.1..
>
> Much appreciated
>
> dan
Add this to /etc/lilo.conf
append="mem=256M"
Then run /sbin/lilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jeff)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.imux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help for new Linux users
Date: 20 Oct 2000 02:18:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:41:46 GMT, Ken Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a Linux user and advocate...
> I am a former Windows user myself...
> I want to help other Windows users convert to Linux.
> I feel that this forum and others like it are poorly suited to this
> purpose.
> Most Windows users don't read manuals and aren't programmers and
> therefore...
> Answers like "RTFM", "Have you read the FAQs?", and "Just re-compile the
> kernel"...
> Are not good answers for Windows users trying Linux for the first time.
> This isn't helpful, feels like an attack, and drives these folks away...
If Linux is about anything, it's about choice. But the opportunities that
choice provides come at a price - Linux users have the responsibility to be
better informed and more involved than users of Windows, which offers choice
mostly only at a superficial level. Anyone who is unwilling to read a FAQ
or HOWTO, in order to find answers, should not, IMO, get involved with
Linux.
Even _with_ responsibility and involvement as entry criteria, BTW, c.o.l.m
is a VERY busy newsgroup. Clearly, there is not much spare bandwidth here
for tire-kickers.
> Which is not good for Linux in the short term or long run.
Why? Linux has a very well established user base. Not everyone has to, or
should, run Linux. I believe that most Linux users would embrace that view.
> If you feel the same way, and are knowledgeable about Linux...
> And can spend a little time answering questions...
> And don't mind answering simple questions...
> Don't mind answering them repeatedly...
> And can do it without anger, contempt, egotism, condescendence, etc...
> Please e-mail me so we can create a place condusive to the goal...
> Of helping average Window users try Linux and convert to Linux.
I, for one, have learned lots from this ng, most of it by lurking and paying
attention. Nobody here is unwilling to help. Most _love_ to help.
Sometimes, though, tough love is called for.
-jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ...
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 02:20:29 GMT
Hi all,
In Linux there are quite some pre-defined groups like root, bin,
daemon, sys, adm, lp, disk and so on. I'd like to know what is
the purpose of each group, or, where I can documentation on them?
I've checked the owner and group of the files using find, but
couldn't find any systematic pattern. I do find the disk-related
special files in /dev belong to group "disk", but I can't conceive
the reason for this arrangement.
Thanks in advance for any info!
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Before you buy.
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache: IP of website?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:20:16 -0700
I want to set up a webserver with Apache on Redhat 6.0. But I don't have a
static IP address. Instead I plan on using my dynamic ISP-assigned IP
address and the likes of DYNDNS.COM or DYNU.COM to automatically re-register
my dynamic IP with a cheap DNS-provider over the net any time my Linux box
reboots.
However, I was told that in Apache you must put in a static IP address, (not
a domain name). Is this correct? Will I be able to do what I want without
the static IP address? The domain name part is no problem - it will be
registered with Network Solutions and is unique. But can Apache handle a
dynamic IP address for a website?
Thanks,
Micer
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:23:48 -0700
When you increase the RAM in your Linux PC box do you have to reconfigure
anything to make the Linux recognize it, or does it just happen
automatically?
Thanks,
Micer
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:18:50 GMT
"Grant Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:qRDH5.2188$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harry Lewis wrote:
>
> >Maybe it's the way I use Word (oops - did I just admit to using Word?),
> >as I start with an outline, then proceed in "document view" without any
> >formatting (other than the auto formats provided by Word (oops - did I
> >just admit to using Word "features"?)), then apply the formatting when I
> >actually need the text in output, but - to me - Word is very good at
> >separating content from its ultimate rendition (oops - did I just admit
> >to liking Word).
>
> I've never seen anybody else use Word like that.
>
> All the people I've worked with spend 90% of their time from
> the very beginning futzing with fonts and margins and
> backgrounds and colors and whatnot rather than actually
> producing content. It would almost be excusable if they ended
> up with something nice looking but vacuous. But the don't.
> They end up with something ugly and vacuous.
Word is actually capable of using style sheets where the
details are provided by the style which can be changed,
but I don't think many people use them.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Harold R. Hickey Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: Linux PDA
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:20:29 -0400
Well the nice thing about open source OS is that an application can "built"
for almost any needs :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: *.bin files???
Date: 20 Oct 2000 01:49:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:12:37 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I even tried "chmod 755 file" & executing it, it says "can't execute
>binary file", seems to be a real catch??
Either you have the wrong (Solaris?) files, or they were corrupted in
downloading.
What do you get if you type
file name-of-file.bin
in the same directory as the files?
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE6.4 and crashing netscape
Date: 19 Oct 2000 22:40:05 -0500
Thomas Thyberg a �crit :
>
> I've got a problem with a crashing netscape on SuSE6.4
>
> I've tried the following versions of netscape and they all crash the
> same way.
> communicator-v474-us.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz
> navigator-v474-us.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz
> navigator-v475-us.x86-unknown-linux2.2.tar.gz
>
> I get the following stackdump:
>
> Program received signal SIGPIPE, Broken pipe.
> 0x40256194 in write () from /lib/libc.so.6
> (gdb) #0 0x40256194 in write () from /lib/libc.so.6
> #1 0x45 in ?? ()
> #2 0x87e7106 in SSL_Write ()
> #3 0x83cfbf4 in NET_WritePostData ()
> #4 0x83c9e98 in net_getInternetKeyword ()
> #5 0x83cb95e in NET_ProcessHTTP ()
> #6 0x83cb8c1 in NET_HTTPLoad ()
> #7 0x83c3f83 in NET_GetURL ()
> #8 0x82b7e6f in fe_GetSecondaryURL ()
> #9 0x82b7dd2 in fe_GetURL ()
> #10 0x82819af in XFE_SetFormElementToggle ()
> #11 0x8799cb3 in ET_MakeHTMLAlert ()
> #12 0x891381e in PR_HandleEvent ()
> #13 0x89137ab in PR_ProcessPendingEvents ()
> #14 0x82a86b2 in FE_GetAcceptLanguage ()
> #15 0x4003def5 in XtAppProcessEvent () from /usr/X11/lib/libXt.so.6
> #16 0x82a7e20 in fe_EventLoop ()
> #17 0x82aa421 in main ()
> (gdb)
>
> Usually it happens when I press a form-button, but sometimes I don't
> have to do anything at all to get a crash. It can run for hours without
> crashing but it can also crash after a few minutes.
>
> I have installed the recommended patch from SuSE
>
> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/6.4/x1/xshared.rpm
>
> but that didn't help at all.
>
> I also tried
> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/6.4/xap1/netscape.rpm
>
> But the result is always the some (the above stack trace).
>
> Anyone knows a solution to this? Is it the /lib/libc.so.6 that is
> giving me this problem?
> Considering to switch to Windows ME...no just kidding... :-)
>
> Regards/TT
Update to SuSE 7.0 and download the latest Netscape version from
SuSE's web site. 4.75 US version with 128 bits encription.
For 6.4 if you can't get the 7.0 version to work, the only thing that is
going to work correctly is the SuSE patched up version in the 6.4
updates. As I said before just update to 7.0, it is far superior
but remember to reinstall libc5 which is no longer installed by
default. When I installed 7.0 my Commercial version of Word Perfect
as well as Eagle didn't work any more until I installed the shlib5
which had been removed by the upgrading program.
--
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then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
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We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Apache: IP of website?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:47:24 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 20:20:16 -0700, Micer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to set up a webserver with Apache on Redhat 6.0. But I don't have a
>static IP address. Instead I plan on using my dynamic ISP-assigned IP
>address and the likes of DYNDNS.COM or DYNU.COM to automatically re-register
>my dynamic IP with a cheap DNS-provider over the net any time my Linux box
>reboots.
>
>However, I was told that in Apache you must put in a static IP address, (not
>a domain name). Is this correct? Will I be able to do what I want without
>the static IP address? The domain name part is no problem - it will be
>registered with Network Solutions and is unique. But can Apache handle a
>dynamic IP address for a website?
Apache will answer to any IP or hostname on your box by default as long as
you don't specifically configure it differently. I don't give it any
settings as far as hostname or IP and it answers to localhost, my nic name
or IP or my PPP name or IP (whether I use static or dynamic IP). However,
you probably want to set UseCanonicalName off so it will properly redirect
with the hostname given it from the browser instead of the SERVER_NAME it
thinks it is, so redirections work properly (like for missing trailing
slash).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Perrin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 19 Oct 2000 23:26:10 -0400
Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the business
> of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn programming to
> do that.
I spent half a day learning the basics and had typeset a chapter of my
dissertation in latex that afternoon. By the next day I'd already made
back the time I'd invested because of latex's superior efficiency.
Latex is the essence of *nix: spend a little extra time, get a lot
more efficient.
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Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ...
Date: 20 Oct 2000 00:00:32 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8soa58$4sj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I do find the disk-related
> special files in /dev belong to group "disk", but I can't conceive
> the reason for this arrangement.
So that a user can be added to the "disk" group, and so have permissions
to read and write those devices directly.
--
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel?
Date: 20 Oct 2000 00:02:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David .... wrote:
> Add this to /etc/lilo.conf
>
> append="mem=256M"
Alternatively, there are the fancy memory-detection kernel patches at
http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Memory/memory.html .
--
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: wrong major or minor number
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 03:59:59 GMT
I am trying to mount my floppy drive, but when I do I get an error
message that says mount: /dev/fd0 has wrong major or minor number. The
floppy drive is loaded right into the kernel. I've checked the
major/minor numbers and they are 2, 0 respectively (ls -l /dev/fd0). I
am running kernel 2.4.0test-7. I'm not having problems with anything
else, and I just want to get some things off the floppy drive so I can
move onto bigger problems :-). Any help would be great.
Mike
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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:50:35 -0400
Micer wrote:
>
> When you increase the RAM in your Linux PC box do you have to reconfigure
> anything to make the Linux recognize it, or does it just happen
> automatically?
On my systems it is found automatically. On some systems you need to add
a line to /etc/lilo.conf like this.
append="mem=xxM" # where "xxM" is amount of memory.
Then rerun /sbin/lilo to update the MBR.
After installing more memory boot the system and at a command line enter
"cat /proc/meminfo" to see if it found all of the memory. If it didn't
then add the line above to lilo.conf
hope this helps.
--
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Jordan)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Linux accessing a printer hooked to ethernet.
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:24:06 GMT
Hugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo a todos por la internet:
>If you know how the printer filter driver works within Linux,
>you will understand what I am talking about here.
>
>I want to use a laser printer which are hooked to the ethernet RJ45
>from Linux hosts. A printer can have an IP number. However,
>if you use it that way, the Linux lpd simply sends a raw request
>to the host, i.e., the printer. In this case, unlike a Linux or
>MSWindoes
>host, the printer does not have any printer filter software, i.e., the
>ghostscript software in the case of a Linux.
>So, basically, printing will fail.
>
>What can we do about this? In the case of HP printers, they
>provide Solaris JetDirect Software. However, there is no
>such thing for Linux.
First, let me warn you, I'm far from a Linux guru. But I do have a
computer with Corel Linux on it, and I am using it to print to an HP
Laserjet 5SiMx on ethernet, and it is working fine.
For the Laserjet, first you need to set the IP address and subnet
mask. HP makes JetAdmin software to do this, but it runs only under
Windows. Luckily I also have an NT machine, so that's how I set the
address. I imagine there is some utility to set the address without
the JetAdmin software -- perhaps from the control panel or something.
I just didn't bother looking because I knew I could do it with
JetAdmin. If you must, you could just use the address it was set to at
the factory. This will be displayed if you print a test paper from the
printer's control panel. I think mine was set to 192.0.0.192, subnet
255.255.255.0.
Once you have the IP address and subnet mask set for the printer, just
set up the printer on the Linux machine. If you use the KDE shell it
is a snap -- no more difficult than setting up a printer on Windows.
The only part I found confusing is that "5Si" was the only printer I
found in the list -- not "5SiMx." Later I discovered that all
PostScript printers use the same driver, labeled, surprisingly,
"PostScript." Once I used that choice, it prints the same from the
Linux machine as it does from Windows machines.
NOTICE: I don't publish my e-mail address. Post in the
newsgroup only.
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From: "Larry Krigbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp problem
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:24:36 -0500
I'm working with Redhat 6.2 and trying to establish a ppp connection to
my ISP. I've been following the directions in the ppp HOW-TO using minicom
and 'pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS0 115200'. The ISP uses PAP and I believe I'm
okay with the pap-secret file/setup. I connect and login to the ISP and
immediately get the following sequence of messages:
Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
<accomp>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
<accomp>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
<accomp>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
<accomp>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x01 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x3fdddcd> <pcomp>
<accomp>]
Modem Hangup
Connection Terminated.
I've talked to the ISP who tells me that I'm connecting, authenticating
and hanging up, but that everything appears okay on their side. I've also
tried connecting via netcfg per instructions in the "RedHat Linux Bible" and
also with the Redhat rh-kppp Dialer. Both are equally unsuccessful, though
less informative.
Could someone please offer and suggestions on what I might be doing
wrong, or point me in the direction of some additional resources? Thanks.
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:06:19 -0600
You do not need to waste time learning the arcana of latex. You can
use lyx. Add to that pybliographer and you have a nice bibliography
app, which can read and write bibtex and insert citations into your
document with almost the the efficiency and ease of use of EndNote.
If the bibliography app isn't critical to you, then there is
StarOffice, which actually is a good suite. I have an Athlon 700
with 128 MB RAM and an IBM Thinkpad Celeron 333, 96MB RAM. On both,
StarOffice runs fine. *It can read and write office format.* *Can
export or import Excel and Powerpoint*, and is very similar in
look and feel to Word (which MOST people are very familiar with,
for good or ill). I use it a lot without difficulty (sorry, you
can't do powerpoint-like presentations with latex or lyx or any
other available app with ANY consistency or compatibility with the
defacto standards of Word and Powerpoint).
I AM learning to deal with lyx and pybliographer because of the
bibliography app integration - in my work, this is a MUST. The
main problem with it is that its output (lyx and latex) is not
accepted by any of the scientific journals to which I could
conceivably publish. They all accept word, wordperfect, wordstar,
pdf. SOME accept simple ascii text, which lyx/latex can handle,
but not a single one will accept latex or lyx format documents.
One day I may be able to do a lot with lyx and pybliographer but
for now I use StarOffice for presentations, spreadsheets, graphing
data in my spreadsheets, and writing documents that can be easily
shared with my colleagues who all use Word (scientists, every one
of them).
Another thing coming down the pike is koffice. It is a full-featured,
modular suite that may do you fine - especially after the conversion
features of the now GPL StarOffice are borrowed so that it can
export and import Word documents.
That is the future, however. Right now, give a try to both lyx +
pybliographer (to avoid the pain of learning latex and bibtex) and
to StarOffice.
praedor
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