Linux-Misc Digest #133, Volume #21 Fri, 23 Jul 99 07:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Does anybody know a short technical guide to ext2? ("Groman")
Re: What to do with RPM files? (Michel Catudal)
Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Marx vs. Nozick ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Help needed setting up Xwindows ("LLoyd")
Re: Offline Newsreading (Mark Brown)
Re: text load logging utility (Jon Skeet)
CRON has the wrong time - help please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Compile kernel --> PROBLEM ("Theo van Niekerk")
Re: Good IRC client for Linux? (root)
Re: gnome task bar (Rob Brown-Bayliss)
Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick) (Paymaster)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Chris Lee)
Automatically loading modules ("Richard Lewin")
NT+Linux+lots of subnets (MK)
Re: Newbie with new server installation problem (Anita Lewis)
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From: "Groman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Does anybody know a short technical guide to ext2?
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:31:30 -0700
hello.
I was wondering, if anybody has or knows an URL of
a short(but complete) technical guide to ext2 file system.
I just wanted to do an excercise, to write a program for dos
in assembly(I am currently learning assembly) that reads a
ext2 floppy and gives the file/directory tree.
I found several guides out there, but non were technical enough.
"File is represented in an inode" is not enough for me, or
"Each directory has a several file entry's for each file"
Entry's how?
Entry's how long?
Entry's Where..
well, you know what i mean.
groman. thanx in advance.
p.s. please cc a copy to my e-mail address.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do with RPM files?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 21:47:18 -0500
Stanislaw Flatto wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > I have Slackware 2.0.34 and recently I received this software that
> >
>
> This number refers to kernel version. I think it belongs to ver.3.4 of
> Slak.
> Check if you have a file rpm2tgz. If not, try to download it from net.
>
> Ver 3.5 had it and it works like a charm.
> You do (as root) rpm2tgz <filename>.rpm and get <filename>.tgz.
> Then pkgtool and instruct it to install from current directory.
> That's all.
> Enjoy.
> Stanislaw.
If those RPM are glibc2 and his slackware doesn't support glic2 those
won't be of much use unless it is the source code.
--
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick)
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jul 1999 00:43:42 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
on our intelligent, reasoning side to the exclusion of all else.
> I've been called religious, I've
> been more or less called a Trekkie,
Why does that offend you? Neither are what I would consider *bad*
things...more the opposite actually.
> > Or ants. They wage wars for both reasons- extermination *and* enslavement.
>
> Intelligently planned wars?
Oh yes. The Army ant (forget were it is from) actually plans and
executes strategic maneuvers to overcome its enemy. You should watch
PBS more often. I am sure others do it as well, thats just the one
that I remember about....the ones with the big pinchers
Many animals and insects....and other various creatures....have imence
intilect when it comes to survival. I doubt you will find any doing
calculus equasions...but you WILL see many very engineous engineers,
hunters, tricksters...etc...
>
> > > Why do you all shy away from a frontal assault and keep on arguing
> > > about stupid little definition problems? Man is in so many various
> > > ways different from other animals that he's not animal anymore. What's
> > > the point?
> >
> > I do not and have not denied that man is different from other animals.
> > I've even described some of the ways myself. However, a platypus is
> > different from other animals, while still clearly being an animal.
>
> You will however not find an animal which is as different from all the
> other animals as man is different from them.
True true....me myself think humans can be more barbaric and cruel
then even the most pitiless carnivorous animal. We are also 1000x
more destructive then any other force on the planet. We are more
animalistic then any animal in other words. But thats more or less as
a mass force. Individually we amount to much more I think, and
certainly have the potential to be very great.
I don't think most, if any, animals have a true taste in art. Sure
they can create beutifull things, but this is just a part of the
survival instinct....not true artistic expression.
Actually though, I have heard that whales have a larger capacity for
higher thought (god, morals, universal truth) then humans do. This is
based on were in the brain these thought processes appear to occur,
and that it is much larger comparably then in the human brain. I don't
know that this is true, but it certainly brings our elevated status to
question doesn't it.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Jul 1999 00:54:17 -0700
Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >If you think so... Nevertheless, it was something animals would *not*
> > > >have been capable of. As cynical as it may sound, this, too, is *human
> > > >nature* and not *animal nature*. Of course it's the dark side of human
> > > >nature. But it is not animal behaviour. Animals do not commit
> > > >genocide or coldly plan systems of oppression and destruction.
>
> > > Actually, they do. At least, they have wars in which they try to wipe out
> > > completely competing tribes. Mostly primates, sure, but...
>
> Or ants. They wage wars for both reasons- extermination *and* enslavement.
Actually I would say this is survival instinct in animals.
Exterminate the enemy so that they can't exterminate you, enslave the
enemy in order to get more done to feed or house the nest. Also, when
exterminated the enemy usually gets eaten...so its also a source of
food for the nest :P
In humans, I guess a small part could be attributed to this,...but
more so I think it is a lack of self worth...and the deep seeded need
to prove yourself better then the rest of the world. Course
exterminating and touture is not ways to be great...misdirected people
might think it is.
In primative (if you insist) cultures though I think it is still the
survival thing....not any of the modern malicious crap we have now.
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From: "LLoyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help needed setting up Xwindows
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:33:05 +0100
After much effort I have finaly managed to install RedHat 5.2.
Although I am able to logon and work with a command prompt I cannot
get Xwindows to display.
After typing startx at the prompt my screen momentarily goes blank then I
receive a screed of text with varying error messages including:
***A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved***
Fatal server error
No screens found
_XII TransocketUNIXconnect: cannot connect: errno = 111
unable to connect to XServer
Obviously this relates to my graphics and video settings. How can I
reconfigure these settings correctly?
According to my win 98 system device manager I have an SIS6326 graphics card
and an AXION plug and play monitor.
Any advice would be most appreciated.
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Offline Newsreading
Date: 23 Jul 1999 08:23:46 +0100
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Use leafnode. Installation is straight-forward:
> 1.) download src as tar.gz (leafnode-1.9.4 is current)
The source is avalible from:
http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~krasel/leafnode.html
You can also find packages in at least Debian and SuSE. The Debian
package is pretty much self-configuring (it just needs to know which
server to use). If you can't get a package, you'll need to install
from source.
> 3.) cd leafnode-1.9.4
> ./configure
> make
> su root -c 'make install'
> man leafnode
> man fetchnews
> 4.) edit /etc/leafnode/config
Do *not* use this installation procedure for Leafnode. You should at
least read the instructions in the file INSTALL in the distribution.
It is important that tcpd and inetd be set up correctly.
Once Leafnode is set up, you'll also need a news client - I'd
recommend Gnus, others prefer something like slrn. For Gnus, use
Emacs within X (to get the menus, which are very helpful when
learning) and type "M-x gnus".
--
Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: text load logging utility
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:04:34 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> does anyone know of a utlity I can use to generate a logfile the load on my machine?
> Just a simple line with cpu and mem usage every few minutes
> or so, I can't seem to find anythign useful by apropos or in my searches
> on the web.
Something like this should do you fine. It gives the load average and
memory usage on alternate lines. To get at what the memory lines "mean"
you'll have to do "cat /proc/meminfo" once.
#!/bin/sh
echo " " >> load.log
date >> load.log
while true
do
uptime >> load.log
grep Mem: /proc/meminfo >> load.log
uptime
sleep 60
done
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CRON has the wrong time - help please
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:03:07 GMT
Running RedHat 6.0 on a machine, I am faced with the following -
use date to check date, shows correct date and time
use linuxconf and timezone, also show correct date, time and zone
but ...
cron seems to be out by 8 hours!
IE - when the time shows 9am, cron is just running processes set for 1am
this may have something to do with pacific time and UK time (where I am)
but how do I find what setting is wrong?
Ideas please.
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From: "Theo van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Compile kernel --> PROBLEM
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:11:32 +0200
You must go to the the subdirectory first, and then run make dep in this
directory
ie cd /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot
make dep
make zImage
...etc
Kenny Kim Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm a newbie. I wannna compile my own kernel using 2.2.10 source. I did
the
> "make config". And when I ran "make dep" the following returns:
>
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `dep'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
> scripts/mkdep init/*.c > .depend
> make: *** [dep-files] Error 139
>
> Anyone please tell me what's wrong here? Thanx!
>
> --
> Everything is not as it appears to be.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
Crossposted-To: alt.irc.questions
Subject: Re: Good IRC client for Linux?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:30:46 GMT
Does anyone know of an X based irc client for Linux that can
connect through proxy server like WinProxy.
Thanks
-V0D-
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:56:28 -02-30, Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Sheskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:33:11 +0200, Stefan Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: ->Hi,
>: ->
>: ->I'm looking for a good IRC client for Linux/X11. I'm used to mIRC a bit,
>: ->but that isn't available for X, is it?
>: ->
>: Take a look at kvirc closest thing I've seen in linux. There are a bunch of
>: them at www.freshmeat.net. Type irc in the search window.
>
>X-Chat is also a good X IRC client, pretty much the only one that has
>slightly impressed me - www.xchat.org
>TkIrc, a Tk frontend to ircii, is also pretty decent.
>
>Check Freshmeat's appindex, in X11/IRC I think....
>
>--
>Chris Gushue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ:409207
>http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3
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From: Rob Brown-Bayliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gnome task bar
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:44:47 +1200
> I've heard that it has to do with Enlightenment (version that ships with
> RedHat 6.0) is broken. If you download the latest release of
> Enlightenment, your problem should be fixed.
>
Thanks, I did and it's neat, but I have a problem, I use the shiny
meatal theam, and it has a heap of icons all over the screen, and the
little window pagers, neither of which I want.
How do I remove these? I have spent the last 2-3 hours reading every
thing I could and no answers...
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zoo Station
--===<|>===--
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From: Paymaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: I f*cking don't believe it! (was: Marx vs. Nozick)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:08:48 +0600
Matthias Warkus wrote:
> I've been called religious, I've
> been more or less called a Trekkie, and one has implied that I am not
> doing my duty at preventing fascism from happening again in my
> country.
Aha. Down with you then. You must be a bad man. Btw, it may turn out
that whatever there still is in us of animal will finally save us. Dont'
be so haughty about animals.
> See above. Will this crap ever cease?
The thread going good. Why should it cease? I like it (but I'd split it
into several different ones, so as to liven up this otherwise barren
place.)
--
len
if you must email, reply to:
len bel at world net dot att dot net (no spaces, ats2@, dots2.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:13:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>On or around 21 Jul 1999 23:52:29 GMT, Chris Lee wrote something about
>"Re: Shortcomings of Linux?"...
>>
>>
>> In article <7n46iq$cjj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> >
>> >In comp.sys.amiga.misc Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> And I get my information from the people who *ACTUALLY CONNECT TO
>> >> ISPs* in the *REAL WORLD*
>> >
>> >Apparently from few people only though, if you have never talked to
>> >the thousands of users who need to use MS-CHAP, yes, in the real
>> >world, obviously.
>> >
>> >Frankly, this is getting ridiculuos. Obviously you don't KNOW that
>> >MS-CHAP is a problem. Fine, so you have been lucky enough to never
>> >run across it. That does not mean that the problem does not exist.
>> >It DOES exist, as thousands of users can testify. Denying a problem
>> >just because you have been lucky enough to never encounter it is
>> >just a sign of arrogance.
>>
>> It isn't me dude. A hell of a lot of people in the newsgroups I
>> mentioned are using pppd on linux and other OS's to connect to NT
>> 4.0 servers using PAP and not MS-CHAP. This blows your stupid
>> comment that everybody is using MS-CHAP out of the water.
>
>Oh dear, Chris.
>
>It is obvious that oyu know you are loosing the argument, as you have
>resorted to claiming that the other person has said things which, qite
>clearly, they have not said.
>
>Shame on you.
And you better re-read this this thread. A lot of the people who use Linux
and other OS's aside from than myself thought Kruse's comments concerning
MS-CHAP was silly.
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From: "Richard Lewin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Automatically loading modules
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:23:44 +0200
I have a parallel port Zip 250 drive and I would like to automate the
loading of the imm module when I issue the mount /mnt/zip command. I know I
have to use kmod, but my question is how does the kernel know that it has to
load the imm module - do I have to make any entries in /etc/conf.modules?
Thanks in advance.
Richard Lewin
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From: MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.networking.general
Subject: NT+Linux+lots of subnets
Date: 23 Jul 1999 08:31:13 GMT
Linux Geniuses!
I was wondering if you could help me and my school solve out linux/Nt
networking headache.
The school is running a NT4.0 server that has four network cards that are
connected to hubs that are located in the school. its IP is 10.15.16.1 and
the other cards IP's are 10.15.64.1, 10.15.48.1, 10.15.32.1, etc. The Nt
server acts as a gateway for traffic from these subnets. We are all using
DHCP assigned addresses but I reserved one for the linux box 10.15.64.7.
What I can ping is 10.15.16.1 the Server and the computers on the subnets
because I passed this route command "route add default gw 10.15.16.1" and
the it goes! The Ntserver is connected to another server running WinProxy
and it has 2 network cards, this computer handles the internet. I cannot
ping It! It's address is 10.15.0.1 the windowz boxes on the subnets can but
I cant! (dont worry my DNSes are set and everything) this Proxybox is a
router to the net it's other Ethernet card is connected to the net (complex
100mbit stuff, not important) it's IP is 10.15.88.1. I need to figure out
how to set my route in linux to be able to ping the ProxyBox and then
travel
to the internet. Can you offer any advice? Also the Proxybox is running
WinProxy for web and ftp transfers...do I have to worry about it? any thing
that I am required to set?
I am using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36 and an eepro100 network card on a
pentium pro.
Thank-you in advance!
Michael Krygier
Jr. Unix network admin wannabe
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From: Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie with new server installation problem
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:27:02 GMT
Just curious if you are using RedHat5.2. If so, you want the rpm. If
not, then you might look at those instructions first to be sure you got
all the binaries needed. Read the Release notes first. That's where it
tells you everything.
If you need the rpm, they are at www.redhat.com. I can give you more
details if you need.
Anita
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