Linux-Misc Digest #133, Volume #28 Sun, 17 Jun 01 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Kein Sound (Dennis Toelle)
Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ? (David Griffith)
Re: Kein Sound (Frank Neurath)
VIM Probs (David Griffith)
Re: Kein Sound (Dennis Toelle)
Re: kernel panic (David Griffith)
Re: Kein Sound (David Griffith)
Re: any Iomega ZIP USB users? (Jerry Kreps)
Re: how does linux work? (Jerry Kreps)
Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card (Jesper Petersen)
Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (Robert Heller)
Re: Kein Sound (Erik Veenstra)
Re: HELP! I just deleted /bin! (Rinaldi J. Montessi)
Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ? (Tony)
Re: What does etc stand for? ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes (Rod Smith)
Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows (Isaac)
Re: Kein Sound ("bowman")
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From: Dennis Toelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kein Sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:00:15 +0200
Hallo!
Also ich stehe kurz vorm Verzweifeln (ok, nicht ganz ;)
Ich habe meine Soundkarte mit Yast 2 eingerichtet und es gab auch keinerlei
Probleme (es wurde sogar der richtige Chipsatz angegeben), bis auf das ich
beim 'Test'-Button keinene Test-Sound gehoert habe.
Ich habe bereits die Eintraege von Yast 2 aus der modules.conf und der
unique.inf geloescht und alles nochmal probiert, aber das hat auch nicht
geholfen. Immer noch keinen Sound.
Zu Erwaehnen waere aber noch, das ich versucht habe meine USB-Webcam zum
Laufen zu bekommen, was aber nicht geklappt hat. Das intergrierte Mikrofon
ist aber trotzdem noch in einigen Optionen (z.B. der Mixer unter KDE) zu
finden, obwohl ich sogar schon den USB-Support aus dem Kernel (2.4.5)
kompiliert habe.
Wenn ich unter KDE versuche eine .mp3-Datei abzuspielen, stuerzt mir
'Noatum' ab und 'Xmms' sagt mir das ich die Soundkartenkonfiguration
ueberpruefen soll.
Was kann ich denn noch machen, damit meine Lautsprecher wieder Sound
ausspucken?
CU, Dennis.
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From: David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:07:37 +0100
"Brett L. Moore" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have RH 7.0 installed on a couple of older machines and have figured out
> that sending their displays to my Xwin32 server (on my win2k machine) is a
> nice way to administrate them. However, I have no window manager running,
> so I can effectively run one X app (all of the apps land in the upper left
> corner!). So is there a way to run the window manager on my Xwin32 server?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
If you have [x,k,g]dm running on RH then you might be able to pass the -query
option to Xwin32, (I am unfamilliar with win2k, but it works for XFree86)
This will bring up a login box identical to if you had just powered up your RH
box
If this fails just run a window manager directly. You probably have the
following.
wmaker
enlightenment
kwm
fvwm2
fvwm
twm
That would be the order I would try them in. Dont forget to set DISPLAY, and
append an & to the wm command, to put in background
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From: Frank Neurath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:09:24 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dennis Toelle wrote:
> Hallo!
Moin
>
> Also ich stehe kurz vorm Verzweifeln (ok, nicht ganz ;)
> Ich habe meine Soundkarte mit Yast 2 eingerichtet und es gab auch
> keinerlei Probleme (es wurde sogar der richtige Chipsatz angegeben), bis
> auf das ich beim 'Test'-Button keinene Test-Sound gehoert habe.
Welche Soundkarte? Welche SuSE Version?
> Ich habe bereits die Eintraege von Yast 2 aus der modules.conf und der
> unique.inf geloescht und alles nochmal probiert, aber das hat auch nicht
> geholfen. Immer noch keinen Sound.
Welche Meldungen bekommst Du, wenn Du die Module von Hand "probst"?
> Zu Erwaehnen waere aber noch, das ich versucht habe meine USB-Webcam zum
> Laufen zu bekommen, was aber nicht geklappt hat. Das intergrierte Mikrofon
> ist aber trotzdem noch in einigen Optionen (z.B. der Mixer unter KDE) zu
> finden, obwohl ich sogar schon den USB-Support aus dem Kernel (2.4.5)
> kompiliert habe.
> Wenn ich unter KDE versuche eine .mp3-Datei abzuspielen, stuerzt mir
> 'Noatum' ab und 'Xmms' sagt mir das ich die Soundkartenkonfiguration
> ueberpruefen soll.
Macht Sinn, wenn Deine Soundkarte nicht richtig installiert ist!
> Was kann ich denn noch machen, damit meine Lautsprecher wieder Sound
> ausspucken?
Hast Du mal in der SuSE-Supportdatenbank nach �hnlichen Problemen gesucht
bzw. einen Mail an den SuSE-Support geschrieben (kostenloser Service
innerhalb der ersten X(weis nicht genau wie viele) Tage nach Kauf)?
>
> CU, Dennis.
Frank
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From: David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIM Probs
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:14:57 +0100
When I use vim as gvim I have no problems
When I use vim at the shell, I sometimes get problems with cursor keys
If i press left,right,up,down I get capital letters from A-D, each on a
new line
It only happens in insert mode.
Any clues?
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From: Dennis Toelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:17:52 +0200
> Moin
Moin!
> Welche Soundkarte? Welche SuSE Version?
Opti16 931 SuSE 7.1
> Welche Meldungen bekommst Du, wenn Du die Module von Hand "probst"?
??? Hatte ich erwaehnt das ich ein Newbie bin? ;)
> Hast Du mal in der SuSE-Supportdatenbank nach �hnlichen Problemen gesucht
> bzw. einen Mail an den SuSE-Support geschrieben (kostenloser Service
> innerhalb der ersten X(weis nicht genau wie viele) Tage nach Kauf)?
In der Supportdatenbank gibt es zwar aehnliche Probleme, aber keine
Loesungen die mir helfen. Bis ich ne Mail an SuSe schreibe will ich erst
mal versuchen das Problem selbst zu loesen.
CU, Dennis.
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From: David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: kernel panic
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:24:23 +0100
mike wrote:
> I tried to install kernel 2.4.2 It went fine till I rebooted. The at
> the lilo prompt I pressed tab and typed in the name of my new kernel,
> then I got this error "Root fs not mounted
> cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic vfs: unable to mount root file system on 03:01
>
> First of all what is a kernel panic and second how do I fix this.
> When I edited lilo I assumed that the root partition would be the same
> one as my other kernel. Thanks Mikey
1st) Is /dev/hda1 normally / ?
That is what 0301 means (look at /dev/hda1 with ls -l, it has
major num 3, minor num 1)
2nd) What filesystem do you have on / ? ext2?, reiserfs?, umsdos?
You must compile in the relevant fs in the kernel. If its
ext2 (guessing here) then
ext2 support must be built in to the kernel, NOT as a module.
You've probably not included enough to mount the rootfs, therfore
the kernel has 'panicked'.
A kernel panic is when something goes awfully wrong. Think of it as the
equivalent of a BSOD from windows.
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From: David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:33:15 +0100
> Hello! Thus I am briefly vorm to despairing (ok, not completely;) I created
> my sound card with Yast 2 and
> gave it also no problems (even the
> correct chip record was indicated), up to which I heard keinene sound of
> test with the ' Test' Button. I already
> deleted the entries of Yast 2 from modules.conf and unique.inf and
> everything again tried, but that did not
> also help. Still no sound. To mentioning would be however still, I tried
> my USB Webcam for running to get, which
> did not fold however. The intergrierte microphone is to be found
> however nevertheless still in some
> options (e.g. the mixer under KDE), although I even already compiled the
> USB support from the Kernel (2.4.5). If
> I try, fall a mp3 File under KDE to play me ' Noatum ' and ' Xmms '
> says to me which I the sound card
> configuration to check is. What can I still make, thus my loudspeakers
> again sound out-spit? Cu, Dennis.
This is babelfishes best attempt at german to english
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: any Iomega ZIP USB users?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:48:31 -0500
Ray wrote:
> hi
>
> i'm considering buying an external Iomega Zip 100 USB drive to use
> with my laptop (toshiba sat pro 4340) which has an Intel 82371AB
> PIIX4 USB controller and running linux 2.4.3.
>
> i've looked at
> http://www.linux-usb.org (this list the mass storage drv in the
> kernel as experimental?)
> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices
> http://www.iomega.com/software/linuxtools.html
>
> and they seem to indicate that the Iomega zip 100 USB does work,
> although there is mixed reports about the drivers that are availbel
> for this device - the kernel ubs_storage.o and the iomega provided
> utils (for 2.4.0pre).
>
> also, i have heard/read somewhere that different versions of the
> zip100 use different protocols, and wondered if this would be a
> problem when using the kernel driver (which i would prefer to use)
>
> if anyone could give me any hints on their current working
> configurations; part numbers from the devices/kernel output would
> also be useful.
>
> thanks for any info
> ray
>
> ps - could ppl CC me on replies - thanks again...
>
My own experience with USB is that it doesn't work very well yet. It
hogs CPU resources. I have one box with a ZIP100 and another with a
Zip100. Both are parallel port devices. If I were to purchase
another Zip drive I would make in a SCSI device. In fact, I would
make all my peripherals and HDs SCSI.
JMO...
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From: Jerry Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how does linux work?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:58:53 -0500
J�rgen Diez wrote:
> can anyone tell me, where I can find a good explanation how linux
> works? I thought of thing like task management, scheduling, memory
> management, io management, module programming in linux, interrupt
> handling and so on.
>
> I'm a newbie in these linux questions, but I want to know more about
> how linux works.
>
Scott Maxwell wrote a description of the code in the kernel, as of
1999. Not ALL of the kernel is covered, and parts of the kernel are
now different, but here is his website with the latest erata.
http://www.ScottMaxwell.org/lckc/index.html
Also, you can use google and search on 'linux kernel comentary"
------------------------------
From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:07:46 +0200
> " Fatal server error:
> open_framebuffer: failed to open /dev/fb0 (no such device)
>
> XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
Sounds like you need an experts opinion on that one...
>Thanks a lot for all your help. Wish me luck.
Good luck ;-) It's for sure I won't buy a computer with a SiS graphics card
again!
Jesper
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: 17 Jun 2001 13:32:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt),
In a message on Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, wrote :
ph> I maintain a website which includes some open source software
ph> I have written; the packages are downloadable as gzipped tarballs,
ph> which were created using
ph>
ph> tar czvf
ph>
ph> (Using GNU tar). These packages are all valid AFAICT, because I
ph> can download them from the website
ph>
ph> (see <http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/oss.html>)
ph>
ph> wih no problem, and untar them with ``tar xzvf''.
ph>
ph> However, some people have recently emailed me, saying they can't
ph> unpack thmr on their windows machines. I tried this, using Windows98
ph> Netscape, and WinZip, and I couldn't unpack them either.
ph>
ph> I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
ph> and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
ph> this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
ph>
ph> Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
ph> users to be able to unpack them?
I've unpacked .tar.gz files with WinZip under WinNT 4.0. It is
*possible* that WinZip is braindead and needs the files to be .tar.gz
and barfs on .tgz files? WinZip *appears* to unpack the .tar.gz in two
stages -- that is it works like:
gunzup foo.tar.gz
tar xvf foo.tar
It mumbles about uncompressing to a temp file first -- I'm assuming
this is what it is doing -- my impression is that WinZip does not use
'pipes' the way GnuTAR under UNIX does.
MS-Windows in *general* has this stupidity relating to file extensions.
It is very likely that the extension '.tgz' is not reconized. And
WinZip could very likely be braindead WRT the combining of the two
extendsions (.tar.gz) into one (.tgz).
Note: gunzip and tar are both available for MS-DOS (and probably
MS-Windows as well).
ph>
ph> --
ph> ## Philip Hunt ##
ph> ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
ph>
ph>
ph>
ph>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:09:58 +0200
From: Erik Veenstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Dennis Toelle wrote:
>
> Hallo!
>
> Also ich stehe kurz vorm Verzweifeln (ok, nicht ganz ;)
> Ich habe meine Soundkarte mit Yast 2 eingerichtet und es gab auch keinerlei
> Probleme (es wurde sogar der richtige Chipsatz angegeben), bis auf das ich
> beim 'Test'-Button keinene Test-Sound gehoert habe.
> Ich habe bereits die Eintraege von Yast 2 aus der modules.conf und der
> unique.inf geloescht und alles nochmal probiert, aber das hat auch nicht
> geholfen. Immer noch keinen Sound.
> Zu Erwaehnen waere aber noch, das ich versucht habe meine USB-Webcam zum
> Laufen zu bekommen, was aber nicht geklappt hat. Das intergrierte Mikrofon
> ist aber trotzdem noch in einigen Optionen (z.B. der Mixer unter KDE) zu
> finden, obwohl ich sogar schon den USB-Support aus dem Kernel (2.4.5)
> kompiliert habe.
> Wenn ich unter KDE versuche eine .mp3-Datei abzuspielen, stuerzt mir
> 'Noatum' ab und 'Xmms' sagt mir das ich die Soundkartenkonfiguration
> ueberpruefen soll.
> Was kann ich denn noch machen, damit meine Lautsprecher wieder Sound
> ausspucken?
>
> CU, Dennis.
Ich kann ueberhaupt nicht verstehen, warum nicht nur auf
Englisch gepost wird auf allgemeinen Gruppen. Deutsch ist nicht
die Sprache der Welt, Hollaendisch auch nicht. Englisch schon...
de.comp.os.linux.misc gibt es auch...
gegroet,
Erik V.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rinaldi J. Montessi)
Subject: Re: HELP! I just deleted /bin!
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:26:41 GMT
Eric en Jolanda wrote:
>> > Is there any possible way to undelete files? I just accidentaly
>> > deleted my
>
>> I understand that there *may* be a way using mc. Do a google search
>> for "mc undelete"
>
> There is, but unless he remounted the partition that contained /bin
> read-only
> right after his rm action, chances are that not everything is recoverable.
> No need to google search, it's pretty straight forward:
> mount the partition ro, start-up mc, in one of the submenus, select undelete
> and start searching for the undeleted files (finding them is the most
> difficult part).
>
> Eric
Sort by date helps a lot.
Rinaldi
--
We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.
--Linus Torvalds
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From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote window manager in RH 7.0 ?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:33:30 -0400
Brett L. Moore wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have RH 7.0 installed on a couple of older machines and have figured out
> that sending their displays to my Xwin32 server (on my win2k machine) is a
> nice way to administrate them. However, I have no window manager running,
> so I can effectively run one X app (all of the apps land in the upper left
> corner!). So is there a way to run the window manager on my Xwin32
> server?
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
>
>
Use DXMCP.
On Redhat, you need to enable it. There are 2 files to edit:
1) /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
comment out the last line - #DisplayManager.requestPort: 0
2) /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess - look for line #* #any host can get login
window
either uncomment that line to allow anyone to get a login window
or insert ip addresses of machines that should get login win
3) generally I reboot here, but it isn't necessary - just haven't figured
out which daemon to restart
On Xwin32:
1) create a new XDMCP query session with ip of redhat box
2) set window mode to single
3) other settings to taste
[ Tony ]
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does etc stand for?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:13:35 +0100
> Info about Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike:
>
> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/rob/
>
> http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/bwk/index.html
>
> And before you ask, well but who is, Dennis M. Ritchie:
>
> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/index.html
>
> Michael Heiming
Ok Thanks, off to have a look.
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:35:18 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> b) Using tar from UNIX(like) to UNIX(like) systems, it *is* possible to
> use remote tape drives via /etc/rmt. The syntax is like (e.g. backup):
> "tar cvf remote_machine:/dev/tape_device /" (substitute the hostname
> and the appropriate device name on the remote tape "server".
> Thus, this could be possible with a tar port supporting this.
> Now, I do know at least 3 tar ports for the various MS Win systems.
> 2 of these support _local_ SCSI tapes, no remote support IIRC.
> Another one was built assuming the tape drive is on a remote *NIX
> system - BUT that was a stone-age old 16-bit app designed for Win
> 3.x,
> with a very simple GUI and just supporting _8+3_ filenames :-((.
> The name was some like "WinTar"; I think I saw it on some old
> CICA mirror CD.
> Let's hope someone resumed that work as a Win32 app...
It's also possible to back up a Windows system using a tape drive on a
Linux system in several other ways. There are some commercial network
tape backup packages that explicitly support this. I believe ARKEIA
(http://www.arkeia.com) is one, but I'm not positive of that. Another
option would be to use smbtar, which is part of the Samba package, to
do the job from Linux (you'd need to tell Windows to export a drive),
but if this were done for a WinNT/2K system, you'd lose most of the
file security features of NTFS. (You can accomplish much the same thing
with a standard smbmount or mount of a Windows file share, using the
ordinary tar or other Linux backup software.) If the system with the
tape drive has a big enough hard disk, you could create a tape backup
Samba share, which uses a postexec script to copy files from the share
to a tape drive. You could then use any tape backup software on Windows
that can save data to a file, copy it to the tape backup share, and
Linux/Samba could copy that to a tape. This could be awkward to
restore, but it would work. I'm sure there are other products and
creative solutions.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:22:30 GMT
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100, phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
>and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
>this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
I have been able to open tar files using WinZip on windows NT. I
know I opened a couple last week at work. I didn't notice
whether those files had .tgz or tar.gz extensions but I suspect
that they were tar.gz. I really don't see many files with .tgz
extentions anymore. I think that naming practice was more popular
when both windows and linux allowed fairly short file names.
>
>Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
>users to be able to unpack them?
A zip would be best because not everyone has WinZip, but infozip
is free. It's reasonable to tell people to grap Infozip's unzip
program, but that won't handle tar files. Hopefully you
are providing the Windows users with files that use the DOS
line terminators which means a separate archive anyway. I think
you can use infozip with the right parameters to fix the line
terminations on the fly.
Isaac
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kein Sound
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:49:08 -0600
"Dennis Toelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9gi63q$tne$07$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Was kann ich denn noch machen, damit meine Lautsprecher wieder Sound
> ausspucken?
vielleicht
insmod soundcore
insmod soundlow
inmod sound
?
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