Linux-Misc Digest #142, Volume #21               Sat, 24 Jul 99 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  HP false advertising!!!! ("David J. Topper")
  Is gnome normally this slow? (Peter B. Steiger)
  Re: Support of NTFS? (Lev Babiev)
  Re: Q: How to reload /etc/csh.cshrc script (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: CLI text editor for Windows ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: PGP segmentation fault (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: redhat vs suse (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: Latest version of CHAT? (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Paul Anderson)
  Re: Bogomips wrong? ("James Young")
  Re: Setting up variables for usage in scrpits... (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: NT+Linux+lots of subnets ("Andrey Smirnov")
  where is todos, fromdos? (Tim Williams)
  Adding a partition ("Robert J. Schweikert")
  Re: What kind of network (Jason Earl)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Is gnome normally this slow? (Vito DeFilippo)
  Re: ISA AWE64 blasts!! during boot. (Dave Howland)
  Re: netscape (Michel Catudal)
  Re: CLI text editor for Windows (Pat Heuvel)
  Re: NT+Linux+lots of subnets (Scott Marlowe)
  Re: Database access program (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: How to use lpr -s switch?  -r doesn't work.... (John McKown)

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From: "David J. Topper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.intel
Subject: HP false advertising!!!!
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:48:50 -0400

Hey folks,

I've already posted once before about my lame experience with HP and
their OMNIBOOK line.  Basically, they shipped me the wrong unit and took
their sweet time about doing it (eg., no next day air).

Here's the kicker.  Check out the following web page:

http://www.hp.com/omnibook/

It says the machines are available with the new 400mhz processor.  Well
that's a bold faced lie!  I was just told by an HP sales rep. that they
ARE NOT available with the 400mhz processor.

Isn't that false advertising?  Isn't that illegal?  Do I (we) have a
case?  What's the deal?

Dave Topper
--
Technical Director, Virginia Center for Computer Music
Programmer / Analyst, Dean's Office (School of A&S)
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
(804) 924-6887

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter B. Steiger)
Subject: Is gnome normally this slow?
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:15:23 GMT

I'm a newly-converted slavering minion of the Evil Empire, and it was
with great joy that I ran FDISK and wiped the Operating System Of 
The Devil off my hard disk one last time to install RH Linux 6.0 last
week.  I chose to install Gnome/XWindows as my operating
environment... 6 years chained to a GUI has made me icon-dependent.

Alas!  After all I've heard about how much more processor-efficient
Linux is, this thing drags along like my old Commodore PET.  I've got
an AMD 5x86 133, 80 MBytes of RAM, and 8.5 gig of disk space.  
When I ran the install, I gave it 64MB of swap space.  There's a 1-gig
FAT16 partition and a 5-gig FAT32 partition, and the rest (about 1.5
gig) is for Linux.  Video is an ATI Mach64 PCI with 1MB, and the
monitor, should it matter, is a MagVision DJ700 17-inch.  That's not
in the supported models that came with the installation package, 
so I manually configured it for 800x600x16384 at 75mhz refresh.

Clicking on an icon results in a 5- to 10-second delay before
the program actually launches.  Even piddling little programs 
like FreeCell operate at a snail's pace.

Is this normal, or did I do something wrong, or is there something
I can configure to at least make this run as fast as Winduhs?

----
If you reply by email, send it to pbs at com dot 
canada (or vice-versa).  All advertisements will be 
returned to your postmaster, eh!

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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Support of NTFS?
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:51:23 -0400


There is support of NTFS in the kernel. For info read file 
Documentation/filesystems/ntfs.txt in the kernel tree.
 
  - Lev

> What is the present state of support for NTFS?  Where can I track this,
> pointers, ... ?
> 
> Any and all help will be appreciated.
> 
> --
> Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

-- 
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make really crappy                | irc: CrazyLion, #linuxlounge @ EFnet
operating systems."               | 
 - Linus Torvalds                 | Linux forever!
==============================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Q: How to reload /etc/csh.cshrc script
Date: 23 Jul 1999 21:17:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7nauq0$ptg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Youngert wrote:
> What instruction should I issue to reload a newer version of /etc/csh.cshrc
> under a csh or tcsh shell?

You can load the contents of _any_ file by using "source", e.g., "source
/etc/csh.cshrc".  However, this does not cause the results of any older
file to be _unloaded_.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLI text editor for Windows
Crossposted-To: comp.editors
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 01:18:44 GMT

fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Elvis is available as both a WIN32 (gui) binary and a DOS text-mode
> binary. I've no idea if either of them will work over a text-only
> remote login, though. I think there is also a Windoze version of Vim
> but again am not knowledgeable of it.

iirc, the topic has come up a few times, but I don't recall seeing a
definitive answer - the console window programs under win32 don't use
escape sequences, so he'd need a different version - both vile and
vim can be compiled for that sort of driver, but I've not tested with
a remote login to a win32 system (I suspect it depends also on what
particular program is used).

The context in which it's come up before is that the console-window
programs hang in this configuration.

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: PGP segmentation fault
Date: 23 Jul 1999 21:50:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[newsgroups trimmed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> after I have pgp installed and I run it I keep getting:
>
> "segmentation fault".
>
> why is this? i have compiled from sourse

Did you apply the patch for compiling an ELF executable?

> downloaded a rpm and converted
> it to a tgz, and also used both kinds of pgp avail. 2.6.2 and 6.x.x.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Subject: Re: redhat vs suse
Date: 24 Jul 1999 01:28:57 GMT

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:41:35 -0500, David Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At the risk of starting a flame war I would like to hear opinions concurring
>redhat 6.0 and suse 6.2. All thoughtful responses are appreciated.

Hi. The best linux distribution is RedHat 5.1. It's better than 6.0, at
least my 5.1! Get both, test both and use what you want.

-- 
Frederic L. W. Meunier = Niteroi, RJ - Brazil = Tel: +55-21-620-7173
Contact: fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br} = IRC: _19751127
[root@marseille /tmp]# f{l,r}ames;java*;HTML_mail;SPAM > /dev/null
(All text before "-- " isn't my opinion nor my employer's)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Subject: Re: Latest version of CHAT?
Date: 24 Jul 1999 01:40:00 GMT

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:17:46 GMT, Mike Bartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've found a nice dialing script, but the version of CHAT that came
>with my Red Hat 5.2 distribution doesn't like it.  Man page claims I
>have version 1.17, but the script says it needs at least version 1.9.
>
>I've searched the web and so far haven't found anyplace that has CHAT
>available for download (although there are dozens of places with IRC
>clients called "chat-this" or "that-chat"...).  Does anyone know where
>I can find the latest ad greatest, or even the maintainer's home?
>
>-- Mike "be nice if CHAT could provide it's version number..." Bartman

Ever tried to search for ppp in http://freshmeat.net? chat is part of ppp.
The latest release of ppp is 2.3.9-pre and it ships with chat 1.21 if I'm
not wrong. And use another script. The chat shiped with RedHat 5.2 works
fine. This script sucks!

-- 
Frederic L. W. Meunier = Niteroi, RJ - Brazil = Tel: +55-21-620-7173
Contact: fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,urbi.com.br} = IRC: _19751127
[root@marseille /tmp]# f{l,r}ames;java*;HTML_mail;SPAM > /dev/null
(All text before "-- " isn't my opinion nor my employer's)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:50:13 -0400

"K.HAIGH-HUTCHINSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have lots of visits from hackers, according to my /var/log/secure
>file, but they don't get a connection.
>
You mean crackers not hackers.  Hackers don't try to break into computers.


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From: "James Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bogomips wrong?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:53:01 +0100

Birk bremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> I have two computer systems, a AMD K6II 350 and a PIII 450
> at /proc/cpuinfo the PIII shows only 110 and the K6II
> has 699.6.

The bogomips rating for the K6-2 is about right - the K6 family usually
achieves 2x the clock speed (in MHz) for the bogomips rating.  There's
something very wrong with the configuration for the PIII, however - the
PII/PIII score around 1x the clock speed (in MHz) so your machine should get
around 450 bogomips.  My PII-240, for instance, gets 239.8 bogomips.

Number one cause of a suspect bogomips rating is the processor cache.  Go
into your BIOS setup, and make sure that both the L1 and L2 caches are
enabled - in most Award BIOSes, cache options are found in the 'Chipset
Features' section.  Whilst you're there, make sure the main memory settings
are sensible.  If you're not familiar with fiddling with the BIOS, it may be
worth your while to use default settings - most Award BIOSes (I have no
recent experience of an AMI or Phoenix BIOS) have both a standard default
and a turbo default - go for the turbo default settings.  You won't get
absolutely optimal performance from these settings, but it'll be reasonable.

Number two cause of a suspect bogomips rating is that the processor is
clocked at the wrong speed.  What speed does the BIOS report when the
computer is first turned on?  It could be that the processor is set to a low
speed, or too high a speed.  Most PII/PIII/Celeron chips now are multiplier
locked, so the frequency multiplier must be right - if it isn't, the
motherboard will default back to a _VERY_ low speed - on my motherboard, it
defaults back to 133MHz if the multiplier is wrong.  The multiplier should
be 4.5x for a 450MHz PIII.  If your motherboard is jumperless, you should be
able to set this in the BIOS too - in fact, there should be a default setup
for a 450MHz PII/PIII, if the motherboard is fairly recent.  Otherwise,
you'll have to get out your motherboard manual and fiddle with the jumpers
on the motherboard.  :-(

We'll get to the bottom of this, don't you worry... :-)

HTH,
Marm








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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Setting up variables for usage in scrpits...
Date: 23 Jul 1999 21:21:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leonard Evens wrote:
> qcont wrote:
>> I was wondering how one would go about pulling settings from a file
>> and loading them into variables for usage in scripts.  Example:
>> 
>> IP=123.123.123.123
>> ROUTER=324.215.242.322

> The short answer is that you refer to these by $IP and
> $ROUTER in bash (or sh) scripts.
[much fine advice deleted]

... after you do something like

. my_file_with_settings

in the (ba)sh script.  (Yes, that's a single dot ".".)

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: NT+Linux+lots of subnets
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:57:24 -0700

The IP addresses that you provided kinda useless without netmasks due to the
fat that you need to know both IP address and netmask to picture your
network configuration.

Good luck!

MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7n998h$k29$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Linux Geniuses!
>
> I was wondering if you could help me and my school solve out linux/Nt
> networking headache.
> The school is running a NT4.0 server that has four network cards that are
> connected to hubs that are located in the school. its IP is 10.15.16.1 and
> the other cards IP's are 10.15.64.1, 10.15.48.1, 10.15.32.1, etc. The Nt
> server acts as a gateway for traffic from these subnets. We are all using
> DHCP assigned addresses but I reserved one for the linux box 10.15.64.7.
> What I can ping is 10.15.16.1 the Server and the computers on the subnets
> because I passed this route command "route add default gw 10.15.16.1" and
> the it goes! The Ntserver is connected to another server running WinProxy
> and it has 2 network cards, this computer handles the internet. I cannot
> ping It! It's address is 10.15.0.1 the windowz boxes on the subnets can
but
> I cant! (dont worry my DNSes are set and everything) this Proxybox is a
> router to the net it's other Ethernet card is connected to the net
(complex
> 100mbit stuff, not important) it's IP is 10.15.88.1. I need to figure out
> how to set my route in linux to be able to ping the ProxyBox and then
> travel
> to the internet. Can you offer any advice? Also the Proxybox is running
> WinProxy for web and ftp transfers...do I have to worry about it? any
thing
> that I am required to set?
> I am using RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36 and an eepro100 network card on a
> pentium pro.
>
>
> Thank-you in advance!
> Michael Krygier
> Jr. Unix network admin wannabe
>
>
> ------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
>                   http://www.searchlinux.com




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Williams)
Subject: where is todos, fromdos?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:23:52 GMT

I have a text file I wanted to bring over to Win95 to print. (I 
stupidly bought a Windows printer - Lexmark 3200 - before I got 
Linux.)  Where is the todos (unix2dos) program? I only recently 
installed Linux RH 5.2 on my PC at home and I thought those two 
programs would be in /bin or /usr/bin.

On a related note, how do I  search all the RPMs on the RedHad CD to 
find this?  (Assuming todos/fromdos exist in an RPM somewhere on the 
CD.)

TIA.

P.S. What 's a good offline newsreader for Linux? Right now I'm using 
ProNews/2 under OS/2 Warp 3, but I'm thinking about giving up OS/2 and
use the disk space for Linux.  Graphical would be nice, but not 
required. I'm using strn at work. (Someone else set it up though.)
______________________
Tim Williams

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From: "Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding a partition
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:35:52 -0400

My Linux partition is filling up, about 90% full right now, however I
have a Windoze/Dos partition on the same drive that I can empty.

Is there a save way to add this partition as additional storage to my
Linux file system?

Thanks,
Robert

--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Earl)
Subject: Re: What kind of network
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:51:00 GMT

On 23 Jul 1999 18:53:43 -0700, Noah Roberts (jik-) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have 2 PCs, a P150 oced to 200 with 3.1G and 48M RAM, and a P60 350M
>and 24M RAM.  The P60 appears to hold a complete system minus all the
>development crap and LARGE binaries like netscape and XEmacs and
>stuff.  But, I want to give tha PC access to those utilities.

Personally I would suggest using the P60 as an X terminal.  That way all the
P60 would have to worry about would be drawing the GUI.  All of the actual work
would go on at the P150.  I have a 486 pressed into service as an X terminal in
my wife's office.  That way it doesn't matter which end of the house I am in.
I get the same desktop and applications wherever I go.

This is especially nice if the machine in question has a decent video card.

>Now, netscape is easy...just use X networking, course the user has to
>config on that PC...no biggie since NS does itself.  But what about
>things which edit files which the user of the P60 would want on their
>HD?  I want it to act like its running locally...maybe even do just
>that.

If you use xdm instead of just X then it would be just like sitting down at
your P150.

The other alternative is to use NFS to mount the partitions you need (like
/usr).  This is trickier, but it is a little more flexible.

>I was thinking maybe I want a beowulf, but I don't need SMP tasking.
>I want the network to act like all drives are on that terminal.
>However....I might want things like Star Office as well, which might
>not run well on a P60.....

You really want to look into running xdm.  If you are running RedHat simply
edit /etc/inittab so that it starts in runlevel 5.  If you are running
something else then the runlevel might be different, but the comments in the
text should be able to tell you what you need to know.

>I know nothing about networking.  What kind of design am I shooting
>for and stuff?  It needs to be cheap....old ethernet cards are the
>best I can do, but I would rather serial since its already there.

Old ethernet cards will do for two machines with bandwidth to spare.  I
wouldn't recommend using X over a serial line, but it is possible.

>I also want net access to both through the P150.

If you are using xdm, then sitting down at the P60 will actually be exactly
like sitting down at the P150, so you won't need to do anything fancy.  You
could run IP Masquerading software on the machine that is actually connected to
the net for good measure, however.

Jason

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:14:22 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 21 Jul 1999 22:16:58 -0700, 
 Michael Powe, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>>>>>> "Arkadiusz" == Arkadiusz Danilecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>    Arkadiusz> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris L wrote:
>    >> Richard Kulisz wrote in message
>    >> <7msas0$qq2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Then you would have
>    >> 0% employment. What is the incentive for labor? Why shouldn't a
>    >> person have the opportunity to make a better (subjective)
>    >> lifestyle? Who says I don't need that extra car or second home
>    >> on the lake or that ski trip or whatever else I choose to buy
>    >> with what I have?
>
>    Arkadiusz>         An opportunity to make your life better is quite
>    Arkadiusz> different to born as rich... I mean my opinion is you
>    Arkadiusz> make your money yourself - everything is ok, but if you
>    Arkadiusz> get money only because you born in wealth family sth is
>    Arkadiusz> unfair.  It's not ok that some ppl can't even dream
>
>"Inherited wealth is a stinking fish."  -- Andrew Carnegie, in his
>time one of the wealthiest men in the world
>

of course, you know that he didn't inherit it, right?

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: Vito DeFilippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is gnome normally this slow?
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:56:10 GMT

On my AMD K6-233 with 64Megs RAM, it was also very slow. I am much
happier now running WindowMaker 6.0 without loading GNOME. All the GNOME
apps and libraries are installed though, and I can still use them all.
And my system has a nice window manager and it's fast. Give it a try!

"Peter B. Steiger" wrote:
> 
> I'm a newly-converted slavering minion of the Evil Empire, and it was
> with great joy that I ran FDISK and wiped the Operating System Of
> The Devil off my hard disk one last time to install RH Linux 6.0 last
> week.  I chose to install Gnome/XWindows as my operating
> environment... 6 years chained to a GUI has made me icon-dependent.
> 
> Alas!  After all I've heard about how much more processor-efficient
> Linux is, this thing drags along like my old Commodore PET.

(snip)

> 
> Is this normal, or did I do something wrong, or is there something
> I can configure to at least make this run as fast as Winduhs?
> 
> ----
> If you reply by email, send it to pbs at com dot
> canada (or vice-versa).  All advertisements will be
> returned to your postmaster, eh!

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From: Dave Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISA AWE64 blasts!! during boot.
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:26:59 -0400

i've experienced the same problem before, but only with a pair of labtec
speakers, doesn't do it with my cambridge soundworks set. my guess is that
the pop you hear is a bit of data being sent to the soundcard, basically a
probe "are you there?" which the soundcard also interprets as something
it's supposed to output. again, that's just a guess... no idea how to fix
it though...

Dave Howland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

=========================================
RC5-Moo - Hey, 400 KKeys/sec isn't a heck
          of a lot... unless you multiply
          it by 100,000...

          http://www.distributed.net

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Mykool wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >         I have an isa pnp AWE64 value installed in a system with Debian 2.1 and
> > RedHat 6.0. Once in a while during the boot of the Debian/Linux the
> > speakers make a loud blast! This is annoying. I couldn't determine the
> > exact time of the booting that I have this problem but I believe that it
> > could be when I modprob midi in one of my init.d files.
> >         I'm using isapnp to load SB and RedHat does not have this problem. Does
> > anyone have similar experience?
> > 
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> 
> I have the exact same problem.  It occurs when the sound module is
> loaded.
> The only thing that I could think of is that the volume on my speakers
> is
> too high.  I have my computer sound running through a stereo in my room
> and I keep the stereo volume loud ;) but keep the mixer volume
> reasonable.
> If anyone has a theory as to why this happens, or better yet a solution,
> please share it.  Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Michael Barnhill
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
> ICQ 13526262
> 
> 


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape
Date: 23 Jul 1999 22:48:04 -0500

James Stafford wrote:
> 
> Michel Catudal wrote:
> >
> > Thomas C Sobczynski wrote:
> > >
> > > Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > I use netscape (4.5) under linux. When I click on a mailto-tag, netscape
> > > > close itself automatically. Why?
> > >
> > > Did you download the full communicator, or navigator standalone?
> > >
> > > > (It was funny when I downloaded 35M from an 42M file)
> > >
> > > Um, what made you think this would work at all, if you didn't download
> > > the whole thing?  Download the newest Communicator, 4.61 I believe,
> > > install it, and try again.
> >
> > That would be a bad move since 4.51 crash on many installation. I've
> > got 3 PC so far that crash with these versions. 4.5 works sort of OK.
> >
> > --
> > use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> > use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> > use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> > http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> > We have software, food, music, news, search,
> > history, electronics and genealogy pages.
> 
> That's kind of strange since I installed 4.51 more than a month ago it
> has never crashed! 4.5 used to crash sometimes.
> 

try this site

http://www.bluemountainarts.com

choose the birthday cards

then you go to the second page and choose "Happy birthday to you"

Have fun!

-- 
use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
use Linux for safe and quick internet access
use Winblows to test the latest viruses
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.

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From: Pat Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CLI text editor for Windows
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:48:27 +1000

fred smith wrote:
> 
> Brent Davies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
...
> : Does anyone know of a text editor, like PICO of VI, that has been ported to
> : NT?  Since even the DOS editor requires graphics to run, I can't use it over
> : an SSH session.

Gents,

FWIW, another alternative: vi is supplied along with some other
Posix-type tools, within the NT Resource kit.

Regards,
Pat
-- 

+---------------------------------------------------------+
+  "Logic clearly dictates, that the strokes of the many  +
+   outweigh the strokes of the two..."                   +
+                             (Apologies to Mr Spock)     +
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From: Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: NT+Linux+lots of subnets
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 21:10:46 -0600

MK wrote:

> Linux Geniuses!
>
> I was wondering if you could help me and my school solve out linux/Nt
> networking headache.
> The school is running a NT4.0 server that has four network cards that are
> connected to hubs that are located in the school. its IP is 10.15.16.1 and
> the other cards IP's are 10.15.64.1, 10.15.48.1, 10.15.32.1, etc. The Nt
> server acts as a gateway for traffic from these subnets.

If that's the case, shouldn't your gateway be set to the card on the NT box
you're connected to, and not 10.15.16.1?

Or is it a bridge?

> We are all using
> DHCP assigned addresses but I reserved one for the linux box 10.15.64.7.
> What I can ping is 10.15.16.1 the Server and the computers on the subnets
> because I passed this route command "route add default gw 10.15.16.1" and
> the it goes! The Ntserver is connected to another server running WinProxy


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Database access program
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 03:59:40 GMT

On 24 Jul 1999 00:19:30 +0100, Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
>Marten Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Is there a Linux program through which I can access a database in
>> the same way as I can do with MS Access? I want to be able to see
>> the contents of different tables, modify values and put filters on
>> different columns (although I would not mind using SQL for the
>> latter). The program could for example be written in Java and use
>> JDBC for the database connection.
>
>pgaccess (included with PostgreSQL <URL:http://www.postgresql.org/>,
>and works only with that) is pretty good.  There are half a dozen or
>so other programs claiming to be Access-like, and working with various
>of the freeish databases.  Search <URL:http://freshmeat.net/> for most
>of them.

Unfortunately, none of the "access-ish" packages take the approach of
providing a multiplexing scheme for providing simultaneous access
to multiple sorts of data sources, which is one of the particularly
useful things about Access.

-- 
Rules of the Evil Overlord #76. "I will never accept a challenge from
the hero." 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/rdbms.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to use lpr -s switch?  -r doesn't work....
Date: 24 Jul 1999 04:00:26 GMT

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:03:18 GMT, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  [snip]
        [snip]
>That's a good point - I hadn't thought of that.  But wouldn't the -r switch
>by itself create the same issue?   However, if you try to use lpr -r on a
>file that you only have read access, lpr prints the file and returns with an
>error message stating that it can't remove the file - that it doesn't have
>access.

No. The difference is when and who deletes the file. With the -r switch,
the lpr command, which is running with YOUR uid/gid, attempts to delete
the file after doing the equivalent of a cp to the spool directory. If
you don't have write access to the file, the lpr says "can't delete"
because Linux know you don't have the proper permissions.

If the -r -s worked the way you wanted, then the lpd daemon, usually running
with uid 0 would attempt the delete. In this case, regardless of the owner,
the delete would work because uid 0 can delete anything regardless of owner.

Now as to how to delete the file after it has been printed. I have an
idea, but I can't test it. I don't have a Linux compatable printer, so
I can't print. But on the "lpr" command, there is a -m option. This
appears to make the lpd daemon send an email to the submitting user
when the printing is complete. I don't know what this message looks
like, but I would bet that you could read the mail with a program and
delete the file mentioned within it. I would look into this futher, but
as I said, I don't have a printer.

I hope this is of some use to you,
John
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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