Linux-Misc Digest #142, Volume #19               Mon, 22 Feb 99 18:13:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: glibc vs. libc (brian moore)
  Re: formation linux!!! (Gregory S. Lyons)
  Re: good book for beginner?
  Re: directory removal program (Rob O'Connell)
  Re: Star Office - Registration????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  would like to provide chat services to a single server - any suggestions? (Lawrence 
Holtsclaw)
  Re: sh for Linux (John Thompson)
  Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs.... (John Thompson)
  Re: New York Times magazine article (Barry O'Neill)
  Apache IP configure ... (Kimsesiz Sait)
  Re: WindowMaker-0.51.0-1 Install Problems
  Xdm, then xsession??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dial-In TTY Help! ("Ken Abrahamsen")
  Re: Firewall with 1 IP (Luca Filipozzi)
  Re: fsck error at boot-time ("Brad Abram")
  Re: What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT ?
  Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel (Gerd Roethig)
  Re: AGP Graphics card? (Kyle Fink)
  e2fsck in multiuser mode (Milos Prudek)
  Re: RFC: Building kernels, efficiently? (bill davidsen)
  Re: Dhcpcd problem: "auto negotiation failed"? (TS Stahl)
  HELP: After Glibc2, /usr is not unmounted cleanly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: glibc vs. libc
Date: 21 Feb 1999 17:01:55 GMT

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:16:36 +0100, 
 John Magnus Steffensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Beeing a newbie and about to update kernel and X and other stuff I don't
> know what glibc and libc is. I've discovered it's kind of smart knowing wich
> is used by the system (RedHat 5.1 by the way).  But HOW do I find out ???

You're using glibc.  (Actually, it's glibc2 or libc6 just to be
confusing.)

You can see it in /lib: 

-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      3070220 Oct 13 02:27 /lib/libc-2.0.7.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Feb 11 02:04 /lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.0.7.so

Note the version number on libc.so is '6'.  If you were using libc5, it
would be, um, 5.

> Is there any advantages / disadvantages of the two ??

First the names:
     glibc = glibc2 = libc6
     libc  = glibc1 = libc5

A million years ago, Linux libc diverged from the official GNU libc for
a variety of reasons.  GNU libc2 is now being remerged back in as the
reasons are mostly moot and using an existing projected maintained by
the FSF is a good thing for both Linux and the FSF. 

The future is definitely glibc, and all the Linux distributions are
moving to it.

On a new install, go for glibc, since you will have to do it sooner or
later.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:10:22 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory S. Lyons)
Subject: Re: formation linux!!!

Per AltaVista's Translation Services...

Hello, 
I seek a formation under linux (reseaux, script, programming out of C,
command and configuration basic) on bets if you know some things could
you write to me with [EMAIL PROTECTED] mercies 


1 Feb 1999 08:52:53 -0500, mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> > Salut,
>>> >
>>> > Je recherche une formation sous linux (reseaux, script, 
>>programmation en
>>> > C, commande et configuration de base) sur paris si vous connaissez
>>> > quelques choses pourriez vous m'ecrire � [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > mercis


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: good book for beginner?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 20:32:32 GMT

You can read this book online at http://www.mcp.com/personal, just
signup for the personal bookshelf.

        - Mike


On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:35:05 -0500, Jatin Kamat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sams - teach urself linux in 24 hours is good enough
>
>Chris wrote:
>
>> Can someone please recommend some good books for a Linux newbie?  I've read
>> a lot of good reviews about "Running Linux" by ORA.  Are there any other
>> good beginner books which are more recent?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
>


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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: directory removal program
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:15:18 -0600

Hi -
It's a dangerous one - so be careful - but
rm -rf nameofdir will swoop down as you desire.
good luck,
Rob
ps be careful! can't say it too much

Steve wrote:

> Hi all..
>
> I *know* there has to be an easier way than the way I've been trying
> to do this..
>

you would think this is always true...but I had to write a little dittie
in awk to rename files...which isn't done all that well in unix....IMHO


>
> Does anyone know of a small stand-alone program that will forcefully
> remove a directory automatically instead of having to manually by hand
> rm files, then rmdir directories??

--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Star Office - Registration?????
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:35:23 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rluby) wrote:
> I dl'd all 64 mb of Star Office Personal Edition from world-domination.mit.edu
> via ftp.  In the Star-Office setup program it tells you to enter a
registration
> key which can be picked up at their web site.
>
> So I go to their web site - Where is the Registration dialog?  I've
**already**
> downloaded the program.  They do not appear to have explicit registration
links
>
> ( like a button labeled "registration" ) on their web site.
>
> Flame on -
> Come on - guys!  If you want people to register, you have to let them do it!
> Is this rocket science?
> Flame off
>

After I had installed Star Office 5.0 when I run it the first screen was to
register the software - after filling in the info the program went to the
registration site, fetched and installed the registration codes.

Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Holtsclaw)
Subject: would like to provide chat services to a single server - any suggestions?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:49:26 GMT

I would like o provide irc to a single server. This would be a place
where you could only chat with person at this specific server. For
example: server provided for school children of a particular school to
help them with their home work. The service would not be made
available to the net at large but to the local school area only.

I would appreciate very much input from anyone having knowledge or
experience in this type of setup.

System particulars:
        Redhat 5.2 distribution
        server located at the local isp ( not sure of the bandwidth)

TIA

Jim

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sh for Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:33:13 -0600

Villy Kruse wrote:
 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Mark Brown  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Philip Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >> Does anyone know where I would be able to get a copy of the shell sh that

> >Most Linux distributions ship bash, which will run sh scripts.  If for
> >some reason you need a real sh, then the various BSDs ship with it, so
> >you could get their source and try to build it under Linux.  See one
> >of http://www.{open,net,free}bsd.org/ .
 
> Does this imply that bash is not a real shell?  If so, why not.

AFAIK, bash is a superset of the original Bourne shell.  It
is conceivable that some pedantic sh scripts might balk when
running under bash but I haven't run into any myself yet.


-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:34:49 -0600

Miernik wrote:
> 
> Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
> 
> I want it to have sophisticated functions, like syntax highliting for HTML, C,
> and LaTeX,
> rectangle selecting, line numbering, capitalization conversion,  and so on.
> 
> But I do not want it to be so big and load such a long time like X-Emacs 2.0,
> and first of all do not have such stupid menus and dialogs....
> 
> The file  opening dialog in X-Emacs is crazy, and also I cannot select blocks
> of text by holding <shift> and moving the cursor.

Try nedit.  It seems to cover most if not all of what you
ask.

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Barry O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New York Times magazine article
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:48:12 GMT

David Martin wrote:

> 
> doesn't this miss the point? Win98 had 28M installs last year. Linux had
> somewhere around 5M. Doesn't that look a little better?

Oh, absolutely.  Bear in mind though, that 28M figure derives from the
7M poor souls who had to re-install 3 times just to get it to recognise
their hardware...

regards,

Barry
-- 
Linux Redhat 5.2.  BeOS R4.
Who needs Micro$lop?

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From: Kimsesiz Sait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache IP configure ...
Date: 21 Feb 1999 17:41:48 GMT

Hi,

i have installed the Apache 1.3.3 Webserver for Linux and configured it
so far.
How can i deny access for several IP-Numbers?
Which changes must i make to the access.conf and .htaccess file for the
directory
that i want to protect?

I am looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks!

Sait



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From: [email protected] ()
Subject: Re: WindowMaker-0.51.0-1 Install Problems
Date: 21 Feb 1999 09:54:13 PST

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        James H Timberlake III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> here goes,
> i am running redhat 5.2 with gnome and MOST of windowmaker installed.  i
> have the rpm binaries and when i run the main windowmaker rpm it gives
> me the error:
> 
> failed dependencies:
> libungif.so.4 is needed by WindowMaker-0.51.0-1
> 
> what rpm is this file distributed in?  i installed the
> libungif-3.0-4.rpm off the cd to no avail.  what am i missing?

It wants the latest libungif rpm from redhat-contrib - I have

> mjollnir% rpm -q libungif
libungif-4.1.0-1

Of course, other packages want the old libungif.so.3,  so after you
install the new libungif, you need to add a link
ln -s /usr/lib/libungif.so.4.1.0 /usr/lib/libungif.so.3

By the way, be careful with the WindowMaker updates.  The capitalized
WindowMaker rpm puts things in completely different places than the
old WindowMaker 0.20 that came with RH 5.2, and also omits all the 
pixmaps for your icons that normally are available from the
extra tarball you get from the WindowMaker site.  There is another
windowmaker-0.51 rpm (not capitalized) which puts things more like
RedHat has them, but that one seems to have a broken OPEN_MENU
command which doesn't allow the standard RH wmconfig to generate
a menu of programs.  A workaround is to generate the program listing
by hand using wmconfig, then install that list directly into a
~/GNUStep/Library/WindowMaker/menu file, and set 
~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu to look at that file.

At least, that's what I had to do.  Good luck.

-jmm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Xdm, then xsession???
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:44:55 GMT

  I'm trying to set up the workstations so that they go right to xdm upon
bootup (that's working, no problem) and then when they log in, they get the X
gui, like fvwm-95 or afterstep, but all I'm getting so far is, I think, twm.
I tried copying .xinitrc to .xsession, as suggested in the howtos, but that
didn't help.  Where is this set at? Thanx.

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From: "Ken Abrahamsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial-In TTY Help!
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:48:08 -0800

FWIW, the same problem happens here for when we forget to turn off the modem
result codes (E0Q1 or is it E1Q0 ???). That happens is the ugly cycle of a
login prompt from getty, modem sending response because it doesn't know what
to do with the login herald from getty.... and the unending cycle continues
until the modem is powered off or reconfigured.
ken
=======================================
M. Buchenrieder wrote in message ...
>"Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>I have red hat 5.2 and a US Robitics 56k external modem on com 2 and i
have
>>been trying for days to get the modem setup for serial dial in.
>
>>In inittab I inserted a line:
>
>>7:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty  ttys1 F115200
>
>Rubbish.
>
>[...]
>
>>When the pc boots up i get a message saying     init 7 respawing to fast
>
>Right.
>
>>Can you please tell me what i am doing wrong?
>
>Several things:
>
>a)
>
>You're using the wrong program. Plain ol' getty does simply not work
>for dialin lines at all.
>
>b)
>
>Setting up a dial-in line with Id 7 isn't a clever idea.
>Change your /etc/inittab line to something like
>
>S1:2345:respawn:/usr/sbin/mgetty -x 3 ttyS1
>
>(assuming you do have mgetty in /usr/sbin) .
>
>For details, see the provoded mgetty docs.
>
>Michael
>--
>Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
>          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
>   Note: If you want me to send you email, don't mungle your address.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Firewall with 1 IP
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:56:40 -0800

In article <7ap9kc$155$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> > You don't need to ask for a Class C. You can do *nearly* everything you
> > could possibly want with a masquerading Linux firewall, port forwarding,
> > and proxies.
> 
>    Ok, so what's the software I should apply then? What would you recommend?
> 
>    Could I implement everything with just ipfwadm?

ipfwadm will set up the masquerade:

ipfwadm -F -a masq -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0 -W eth0

(read the Firewall HOWTO and the man pages for more info on the command)

In order to get ipfwadm to work, you need a kernel that has IP_FORWARDING 
and IP_MASQUERADING (and IP_ICMP_MASQ...) turned on. You may have to 
recompile. Under RH you'll also have to "turn on" these features in the 
configuration files located somewhere in /etc or its subdirs. I use 
debian so I don't know.

Then, to run certain applications (like ftp or icq) you will need to 
install extra modules: ip_masq_ftp or ip_masq_icq, etc.

Finally, if you want a machine *inside* your network to receive traffic 
from the Internet (like mail or http requests), then you will either have 
to run a proxy (like squid or delegate) or you will have to use a port 
forwarder like ipportfw or ipautofw (kernel-space) or rinetd (user-
space).

Hope this helps,

Luca
-- 
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Brad Abram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fsck error at boot-time
Date: 22 Feb 1999 22:12:58 GMT

I tried to run "fsck/dev/hda3" with my simillar problem with no results
Looked at the man fsck also ...
Klaus Kocheisen wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Dramen Mendra schrieb:
>>
>> Could you please elaborate on "applying fsck on the device special file
of the
>> defective partition", I had this problem once myself and am still in the
dark
>> on how to do that.  Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Klaus Kocheisen wrote:
>>
>> > A.G. schrieb:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all:
>> > >
>> > > When I boot into Linux I get the following warning:
>> > >
>> > > /dev/hda2: Inode 237785 has illegal block(s)
>> > > /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSESTENCY Run fsck MANUALLY
>> > >
>> > > fsck RETURNED ERROR CODE - REBOOT NOW
>> > >
>> > > what am I to do about this?
>> > >
>> > > /dev/hda2 mounts as /usr, and can't be unmounted. fsck freaks out
that I
>> > > want to use it on a mounted partition.
>> > >
>> > > Any input hightly appreciated!!
>> > >
>> > > Thanx,
>> > > Arcady
>> >
>> > Go to single user mode and try to umount /usr. If you still cannot
>> > unmount the partition, you might boot Linux from your distribution
media
>> > and applying fsck on the device special file of the defective
partition.
>> >
>> > --
>> > To reply via email remove 'NOSPAM' from email address
>
>Well, it's just as simple as
>
>fsck /dev/sda1
>
>if you want to check the filesystem residing on /dev/sda1. What do you
>think about the command man fsck? ;-)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT ?
Date: 21 Feb 1999 18:32:19 GMT

Get a Mylex bt-950 it is very well supported (under buslogic
brand name), cheap and drivers and specs have been available
for a very long time.

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:04:26 GMT, Andy Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Help - What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT
>
>I need to put a SCSI card (only need SCSI II) in a machine
>running 2.0.9 ELF (pre glibc) to drive a DAT drive.  Soon I shall
>be putting Redat 5.2 on there but not yet.
>
>When I ask our technicians to order a card they can only
>come up with the latest whizz-bang do everything 90mph
>ultra-wide SCSI III device which isn't quite in the hardware list
>(at least for 2.0.9) for example "Adaptec 2940UWOF Ultra Wide Open
>Firmware SCSI Card Kit" because that's what people want to sell.
>
>What I want is something generic that works
>(PCI slot or ISA - I don't care as lonmg as its fast enough
>for the DAT).
>
>What card should I tell them to get that you can still get easily
>and will work with 2.0.9 PCI bus machine and a DAT ?
>(It has to work *before* I put rh5.2 on).
>
>Will the 2940UWOF work with kernel 2.0.9 (re-compiled of course) ?
>
>Please COPY replies to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>as I don't want to miss them
>
>Thanks
>
>Andy
>
>----------------------------
>Andy Heath, Senior Lecturer   [EMAIL PROTECTED]    o
>Sheffield Hallam University.  Tel: +44 114 2534904  /\
>Sheffield, England            Fax: +44 114 2533161 () ()


-- 
Michal Sabala aka Saahbs
 Linux'er since 0.97 :)
 UIUC Class of 2002; ECE
Linux, hardware, C, Html,
aviation, rc-air models

http://fly.to/saahbs

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerd Roethig)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New Message in netscape freezes with 2.2.1 Kernel
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:04:08 GMT

Hello, 

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:48:22 -0700 Doug Nordwall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Whenever I hit new message in Netscape (4.08 and 4.5), it freezes
>netscape. This is after I updated my kernel to 2.2.1. It does not freeze
>if I am logged in as root, but it does as any user, so I suspect that it
>is a permission problem on a library, but I have no idea which. Perhaps
>someone with more knowledge could give me a hand?

To see which files Netscape opens, the strace program might help you.
See man strace. I let strace dump its information into a text file
with 

strace your_command &> error.txt

With Netscape, I guess that file may become very large. But you'll
have to search for errors like ENOENT (no such file or directory) or
"permission denied".

Good luck!

Gerd

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From: Kyle Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: AGP Graphics card?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:28:15 -0700

Don't buy new hardware get Xi Graphics, Accelerated-X Display Server.  It
will double the performance of the hardware you already have.  Try our free
demo to see for your self:  http://www.xig.com/support/demo2.html.

Kyle

David Buckley wrote:

> I currently have an SiS 6326 AGP card.  It runs X ok, but not as well as
> my old ViRGE dose.  I want to upgrade, has anyone any suggestions on
> what card to get?  Unfortunately I have to run Windoze, for reasons that
> have to many buts in for the moment.  Any suggestions, I`d like to get a
> Savage 3D, but there aren't any drivers yet.  I'm going to be using it
> for a lot of graphics so any suggestions should account for 8mb+ of
> memory (4mb just don't cut it any more)

--
Check out Xi Graphics' performance marks:
http://www.xig.com/benchmarks/bmrk.index.html

Kyle Fink, Account Executive
Xi Graphics, Inc.   1801 Broadway Suite 1710, Denver, CO 80202 USA
Voice- Toll free:  1.800.946.7433, Worldwide:  +1.303.298.7478
Fax- +1.303.298.1406



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From: Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e2fsck in multiuser mode
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:36:52 +0100

I have 2 years experience with Linux administration, but finally I came
to a problem I can't grasp:

Does not umount make the volume inaccesible?

I have /boot (3MB) and / (1500MB). I want to run e2fsck for each of
these volumes. So I copied e2fsck, fsck, mount, umount and badblocks
binaries to /boot... When I tried to "umount /", I got "device is busy".

Do I need to switch runlevel to single user before I can umount root?
Could I possibly run "e2fsck -c" on a remote computer using ssh? I
imagine that I would umount /, let ppp and ssh run, use the copy of
e2fsck on /boot to check and repair the /, then mount /, umount /boot,
and do the same for /boot. Is this possible?

Also, even when I go to single user and umount /, I can still switch to
anywhere on the HDD, and I can ls and cat anything.... why?

--
Milos Prudek

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: RFC: Building kernels, efficiently?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 21:58:06 GMT

In article <7as20a$a3q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi, I want to build several different kernels with the same source (no
| patching).  Doing "make config; make dep; make clean", ... is always safe;
| but may be  inefficient  because "make clean" deletes compile objects (*.o)
| and libs (*.a) files.
| 
| As an example production kernel: (predominately  modular)
|   IDE support built-in
|   ext2 filesystem built-in
|   3c509 NIC built-in
|   ...
|   all other features as modules
| 
| A kernel for a single diskette resque system: (predominately built-in)
|   IDE support built-in
|   SCSI support built-in
|   ext2 filesystem built-in
|   minix filesystem built-in
|   3c509 NIC built-in
|   ...
|   most  other require features buil-tin

First, I would run to my local archive and grab a copy of "yard," the
program intended to do just this. It will build one or two disk sets on
any size floppy (I use two 1680k, single disk is not a requirement).

And I build my kernels with everything I can in modules, and only put
the ones I need on the floppy. Then I just customize my startup to load
the ones I want. My normal set has multiple ethernet and token ring
drivers for network install, a number of SCSI drivers, and enough
network and disk utilities to be an install or rescue disk.

I contemplated putting most of the modules in a self-extracting zip file
and expanding them into the ramdisk, but I haven't needed to do that
(yet). My ultimate setup is on a 100MB ZIP drive, using the parallel
port, and the kernel has the ppa drivers on the floppy.
-- 
  bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
changed regularly and for the same reason.
        --Ted Symons(?)


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From: TS Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dhcpcd problem: "auto negotiation failed"?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:25:44 -0600



Novicer Jothiw wrote:

> Dear linux world,
>    Thank you very much for helping me to setup dhcpcd, but it doesn't work
> properly still.
>    It is very strange. It only works in the steps as follow:
> 1. run /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia
> 2. run /etc/rc.d/init.d/network  which add a loopback and /sbin/dhcpcd eth0,
> but message "eth0: auto negotiation failed ; 10Mbps" will appear.
> 3. after a while when the signal light of the network card turned off,
> /sbin/dhcpcd eth0 again..... then it works (ifconfig shows lo and good eth0
> ip).
>
> That is it only works on running at the second time, after the network card
> is turned on the first time in failure (at this time ifconfig shows both lo
> and eth0 with ip 0.0.0.0) and then turned off automatically (at this time
> ifconfig shows only lo but no eth0).
>
> What's wrong?... Can somebody tell me?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards
>    John

The problem is with your network card.  It is trying to determine the speed of
your network (10/100) and is doing so unsuccessfully.  You need to tell it
explicitly, but whether thru jumpers or command line, I can't tell you without
knowing about the card.

Dhcpd won't work until there is a valid interface to work from.  As a
workaround--because your card eventually recovers--you could put a sleep  before
executing dhcpd.

--
Scott Stahl
MIS Asst.
Illinois Housing Development Authority



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP: After Glibc2, /usr is not unmounted cleanly
Date: 21 Feb 1999 18:31:37 GMT


Since I upgraded to Glibc2.0.7 the following started:

When I reboot/halt as an ordinary user (as root, it's all fine)
during shutdown I see (I'm paraphrasing):

  umount: /usr device busy

Later while I am booting, I see, (during the r/o fs checking phase):

  fsck: /usr was not unmounted cleanly, check forced

This is really more of an annoyance than a problem, as it slows down
the boot process, but once it is done, everything works fine.

I have installed the Glibc2 as the main library from the binaries, and
followed the instructions in Glibc2-HOW_TO.

I can provide more details, but I have a feeling that this must have
happened to others, and the answer is already well known. Although I
could not find it in dejanews.

Please post or e-mail as you see fit.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
--
  Yavuz Onder  |   yavuz aeT nortelnetworks dowT com
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    Opinions expressed are mine, NOT my employer's.

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