Linux-Misc Digest #153, Volume #21 Sun, 25 Jul 99 03:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: where is todos, fromdos? (Scott Lanning)
Memory usage of window managers-need info (Ronald Haynes)
Re: How 2setup my scanner (Bev)
mod_perl wont compile for SWS 2.0 & RH 6.0, (Dwayne Croteau)
Re: Linux driver for ESS solo-1 sound chip (Dave Meyer)
Re: Removing pipe files (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Using Unix Apps with Linux (Paul Kimoto)
Re: How 2setup my scanner ("WME")
Re: What's the best antivirus for Linux? (Glenn Valenta)
Re: How 2setup my scanner ("WME")
Re: Need: Valid color NAMES for WM config files - list preferable (Paul Kimoto)
Re: hdparm cant make my spindown (Paul Kimoto)
Uninstall a package - How? ("Suddn")
Re: StarOffice ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: hdparm cant make my spindown (Rob Brown-Bayliss)
Re: Memory usage of window managers-need info (ryan)
Re: HP CD-RW Supported by RH 6.0? ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Uninstall a package - How? (ryan)
Speakers or LUGs near Peterborough, ON, CA? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: StarOffice (ryan)
Re: weird ping (ryan)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: where is todos, fromdos?
Date: 25 Jul 1999 05:16:07 GMT
Tim Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have a text file I wanted to bring over to Win95 to print. (I
: stupidly bought a Windows printer - Lexmark 3200 - before I got
Hmm, you'd think they'd make newer printers programmable..
: Linux.) Where is the todos (unix2dos) program?
I dunno. Here's what I use. You could use an emacs macro, too.
Or sed. Or tr. Or awk. Or probably even vi, but who in their
right mind would use vi.. :P
(change first line to output of "which perl", call it "utod",
then "chmod u+x")
===============================================================
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -n
# utod -- convert Unix to DOS format
# Unix format: end lines with \n (\015)
# DOS format: end lines with \r\n (\012\015)
# If -r (reverse) option on command line, converts
# DOS to Unix.
#
# usage: utod [-r] filename.in > filename.out
use Getopt::Std;
getopts("r");
$opt_r ? s/\r//
: s/\n/\r\n/;
print;
=============================================================
: On a related note, how do I search all the RPMs on the RedHad CD
man rpm
: P.S. What 's a good offline newsreader for Linux? Right now I'm
: using ProNews/2 under OS/2 Warp 3, but I'm thinking about giving
: up OS/2 and use the disk space for Linux. Graphical would be nice,
: but not required. I'm using strn at work.
I always use "tin", but I telnet to my school account to use it.
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Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"It showed a lady, with a fur cap on and a fur stole, sitting upright
and holding out to the spectator a huge fur muff into which the whole
of her forearm had vanished!" --From Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis
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From: Ronald Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Memory usage of window managers-need info
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:19:54 -0700
Hi, I am running SUSE 6.1 on a PII 350 machine
with 196 MB of ram and 128 MB of swap. I had
previously run SUSE 5.1 on a 486 machine with 28 megs
of ram. I thought life would be great. Of course
with a new machine I left my old fvwm2 window manager
in favour of KDE. The problem is that now after logging
in with KDE running and no application other than
two xterms I have used approx 150 of my 196 megs of ram.
As someone who uses their machine for memory intensive
numerical calculations the remaining 46 megs of ram
just doesn't cut it.
Is this memory usage normal with KDE? Why so heavy?
It is nice but I am not going to continue to swap out
on even small problems just to have a task bar like
Windows 95. What other "nice" window managers
exist with the same functionality but less in terms of
system drain. Any references to memory usage for the
common window managers?
Thanks for the info.
Please respond via email and the newsgroup if possible.
Thanks,
R Haynes
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How 2setup my scanner
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:14:16 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
WME wrote:
>
> > Good luck and time to wait - as it is one with parallel interface
> > none of which are supported yet AFAIK...
> > The SCSI version (Astra 1220S) works fine for me.
>
> Well, it's not that urgent anyway, it would've been fun though.
>
> > Have a look at http://www.mostang.com/sane/; unfortunately
> > they confirm that parallel scanners aren't supported yet.
> > Sorry !
> > I'd recommend next time you look for linux support _before_
> > buying hardware...
But they're so CHEAP! Fry's has some for $30 this weekend! Good enough
reason to let win9* live a little longer...
--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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From: Dwayne Croteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.development
Subject: mod_perl wont compile for SWS 2.0 & RH 6.0,
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:45:44 GMT
Hi,
I have Redhat 6.0 installed with Apache 1.3.6-7. I want to install RH
Secure Web Server 2.0. The installation script fails due to the fact
that I have newer libraries. I install manually with rpm, no problem.
I run httpsd, and it fails. According to RH's support page, there is a
problem with the perl path and it instucts one to:
1. install secureweb-devel-2.0.rpm from the secureweb CD.
2. rebuild mod_perl-1.19-2.src.rpm from the RH 6.0 SRPMS CD with "rpm
--rebuild /mnt/cdrom/SRPMS/mod_perl...."
3. then install the resulting package file in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
via "rpm -ivh filename.rpm"
Step one completes fine. Step two does not. I get the following error:
/usr/include/apache/buff.h:73: ssl.h: No such file or directory
Then make exits with error 1 and 2.
I installed everything from the RH 6.0 CD and I am wondering which
package I need to install in order to compile mod_perl and install SWS
2.0 sucessfully. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Dwayne Croteau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Meyer)
Subject: Re: Linux driver for ESS solo-1 sound chip
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 05:35:42 GMT
According to Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have an all-in-one motherboard with ESS solo-1 sound chip build in. I
> can not find the correct driver for it. Anyone can help?
ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org) supports the ESS solo-1, though
there have been a couple of reports (not sure how reliable) of trouble
with built-in cards.
Dave
--
David M. Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Removing pipe files
Date: 25 Jul 1999 01:45:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and e-mailed]
In article <932839044.2220803@news>, Jean-Yves Provost wrote:
> I've had a few corrupted files, one of them being /bin/cp
>
> [jyp@Petit-Camion jyp]$ ls -l /bin/cp
> p--x----wx 1 65280 14700 0 Jul 13 1969 /bin/cp
>
> I'm unable to delete it or reintall the rpm fileutils-3.16-10.i386.rpm
Perhaps you want to investigate the man page for chattr(1).
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Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Using Unix Apps with Linux
Date: 25 Jul 1999 01:49:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ed Wilts wrote:
> Cerberus wrote:
>> ive got a copy of Suse Linux and am
>> muddling thru nicely but was wondering, is it possible to use Unix
>> software/ apps in linux as they are so similar??
> That depends. Software for which you only get executables are likely
> not going to work.
Although sometimes they can be made to work if they were built for
the same type of CPU (e.g., Intel SCO executables on Intel Linux,
Alpha DEC Unix executables on Alpha Linux, etc.).
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How 2setup my scanner
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:04:34 -0400
> Good luck and time to wait - as it is one with parallel interface
> none of which are supported yet AFAIK...
> The SCSI version (Astra 1220S) works fine for me.
Well, it's not that urgent anyway, it would've been fun though.
> Have a look at http://www.mostang.com/sane/; unfortunately
> they confirm that parallel scanners aren't supported yet.
> Sorry !
> I'd recommend next time you look for linux support _before_
> buying hardware...
>
> Juergen
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From: Glenn Valenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What's the best antivirus for Linux?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 05:50:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello world!!!
> I'm tryng to find a good antivirus for Linux. Can you suggest me the
> one you think to be the best?
> Thank you!!!!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Don't run anything as root. create a user and USE IT!
The worst that can happen is that you loose your local stuff but your system
will still work. That's why you do backups though.
Running full time as root is the first and biggest newbie mistake.
--
Glenn Valenta Engineering @ http://www.coloradostudios.com
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How 2setup my scanner
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:05:48 -0400
> The SCSI version (Astra 1220S) works fine for me.
I forgot to ask, was it straight forward to setup?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need: Valid color NAMES for WM config files - list preferable
Date: 25 Jul 1999 01:28:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valentin Guillen wrote:
> Anyone who can send me, or point me to lists of valid color names for
> use in my Windows Managers configuration files would be "sincerely
> appreciated".
You want the file "rgb.txt". In the standard XFree86 setup,
it seems to be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: hdparm cant make my spindown
Date: 25 Jul 1999 01:42:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newsgroups trimmed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to get my hd to spin down (it's an IBM DHEA 36480 disk)
>
> I tried hdparm -S 1 /dev/hda
>
> which said the spindown time was set to 5 seconds. The drive spins
> down, then stright back up again. I lfet this going for a minute or so,
> the longest it stayed down was a bout 1 second...
You might get some help from reading the Battery Powered mini-HOWTO
(e.g. at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Battery-Powered.html,
although I suppose you might prefer the .nz mirror somewhere under
http://nix.tmk.auckland.ac.nz/LDP/): spinning down the hard drive is
a significant part of saving battery power.
> I notice that if I vdir /proc every file has datestamp of the moment I
> do the vdir...
>
> So I asume that the system is constantly writing to these files...
Even if the system does this (which I doubt), /proc does not reside
on the hard drive anyway. (It exists only in the imagination of the
kernel.)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uninstall a package - How?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 06:05:40 GMT
Once I install Linux (Mandrake 6.0), how do I remove an unwanted package?
Thanks
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Subject: Re: StarOffice
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Jul 1999 23:06:17 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farouk Dindar) writes:
> > The books are
> >Learn StarOffice in 24 Hours and Learn Linux in 24 Hours (or something
> >along those lines) by McMillan.
>
>
> Hi Don
>
> Thanks for this information.
>
> I will look for it at Chapters in Toronto.
>
> The challenge for me is to go on intermittent " Microsoft free"
> fast on some weekends. I find Netscape communicator
> slow. Star office should be able to do all the chores that
> I do with Communicator.
>
> Farouk Dindar
XEmacs does quite a bit.
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From: Rob Brown-Bayliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: hdparm cant make my spindown
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:09:45 +1200
> >
> > So I asume that the system is constantly writing to these files...
>
> Even if the system does this (which I doubt), /proc does not reside
> on the hard drive anyway. (It exists only in the imagination of the
> kernel.)
Ok, then there must be some other proccess writing to my HD every few
seconds, therefore bringing the HD out of it's sleep.
Is there a way to see which proccess is useing the drive? perhaps I can
create a log of disk use?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zoo Station
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory usage of window managers-need info
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:15:13 -0400
Ronald Haynes wrote:
> Hi, I am running SUSE 6.1 on a PII 350 machine
> with 196 MB of ram and 128 MB of swap. I had
> previously run SUSE 5.1 on a 486 machine with 28 megs
> of ram. I thought life would be great. Of course
> with a new machine I left my old fvwm2 window manager
> in favour of KDE. The problem is that now after logging
> in with KDE running and no application other than
> two xterms I have used approx 150 of my 196 megs of ram.
> As someone who uses their machine for memory intensive
> numerical calculations the remaining 46 megs of ram
> just doesn't cut it.
>
> Is this memory usage normal with KDE? Why so heavy?
> It is nice but I am not going to continue to swap out
> on even small problems just to have a task bar like
> Windows 95. What other "nice" window managers
> exist with the same functionality but less in terms of
> system drain. Any references to memory usage for the
> common window managers?
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Please respond via email and the newsgroup if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> R Haynes
I think you are experiencing the lack of free memory only becuase of the
ironic fact that it is not being used. In other words, I believe that
the 150MB of ram is really only in the buffer (or cache). If you were
to actually load up some memory intensive apps and look at top you would
see that the memory would be swapped to those apps and that you would
not be likely to actually run out of memory.
Interesting timing, I have been looking at the various window managers
and the amounts of RAM and CPU share that they demand. Whatever you do,
if you are concerned about saving resources, do not use gnome with
enlightenment. This is one of the standard setups for RedHat and
Mandrake's newer 2.2.x kernel distributions. This combo will drain
memory to the point of crashing X.
Actually, in comparison with Afterstep or FVWM95, on my machine KDE is
actually fairly competitive memory wise. With any of the mentioned
window managers, top reports about 25MB to X11 alone. Gnome takes up at
least 35MB on top of that, but one or two windows in KDE adds only
15-20MB. Afterstep adds 15MB to X. Of course these are going to be
different for any other machine - but with only 32MB RAM and 64MB swap
KDE does fine on my box.
Ryan T. Rhea
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: HP CD-RW Supported by RH 6.0?
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Jul 1999 23:07:48 -0700
coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jack Steen wrote:
> >
> > I have recently upgraded to RedHat Linux 6.0 with the pre-compiled
> > kernel on both my laptop and a newly constructed Pentium II desktop at
> > home. The desktop machine has a Hewlett-Packard CD-RW 7200 Plus drive.
> > The SW recognizes it as a CD drive, but of course I would like to be
> > able to use the CD-R and perhaps the CD-RW capabilities under Linux. I
> > have conducted a moderate search of the web, but have not come across
> > anything saying that someone had done this. Does anyone know of a
> > reference to HP CD-RW support under Linux?
>
>
> I had a HP cdrw and worked fine. But I think I know what your problem
> is.
>
> If the drive is IDE then you have to go in and recompile your kernel and
> turn off atapi drive and turn on scsi emulation.
No, the ide-scsi and IDE stuff work fine together now. Just use LILO to boot and pass
the hdx=ide-scsi and that drive will be a scsi from then on.
>
> Of course, If its a scsi drive and linux doesnt recognize it I would be
> more inclined to check the cabling and stuff on the drive.
>
> --
> coffee at indy dot net * ICQ 1614986
> Kokomo, Indiana, USA
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uninstall a package - How?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:38:35 -0400
Suddn wrote:
> Once I install Linux (Mandrake 6.0), how do I remove an unwanted package?
>
> Thanks
'rpm -e package-name', or if nessacary, 'rpm -e --force package-name'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Speakers or LUGs near Peterborough, ON, CA?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 06:17:31 GMT
As the incoming president of TFlop (Trent University's Computer Club)
I'm looking for anyone in the Peterborough, Ontario, Canada area who
would be willing to give a talk before undergraduates. Actually we're
looking for any individuals or companies that have any other
interesting topics.
Jared Warren ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
TFlop President, Trent University
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:43:20 -0400
Farouk Dindar wrote:
> > The books are
> >Learn StarOffice in 24 Hours and Learn Linux in 24 Hours (or something
> >along those lines) by McMillan.
>
> Hi Don
>
> Thanks for this information.
>
> I will look for it at Chapters in Toronto.
>
> The challenge for me is to go on intermittent " Microsoft free"
> fast on some weekends. I find Netscape communicator
> slow. Star office should be able to do all the chores that
> I do with Communicator.
>
> Farouk Dindar
Netscape is slow? Staroffice is like a turtle on qualudes.
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: weird ping
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:51:44 -0400
Daniele Vian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I can't ping -s 55 localhost or to any other host... Any other packet
> sizes would work, but not 55 bytes! MOreover, doing ping -R localhost,
> the answer is
> RR: localhost (127.0.0.1)
> localhost (127.0.0.1)
> localhost (127.0.0.1)
> localhost (127.0.0.1)
> why 4 entries and not 2 (just one hop)??? My routing table is very
> basic, only the entries for localhost and the default gateway, that's
> it.
> I'm running Linux 2.2.7 (redhat6) on two machines (128.197.22.24 netmask
> 255.255.255.128 and 128.197.22.150 netmask 255.255.255.128 - so in two
> different subnets) connected via a 3com 35000 router.
> I have a lot of problems with other programs, and I guess that this
> weird behavior might be the reason.
> Anyone has an explanation to this fact?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> daniele
>
> --
>
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That is wierd. However, it isn't your network. I thought I'd try the ping
on my network and I got the same repsonses! A packet size of 55bytes just
gets lost and the ping -R localhost shows 4 entries. I have dug through
all the ping info and documentation I can find, but haven't found an
answer.
I will keep looking. Post if you figure this one out.
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