Linux-Misc Digest #172, Volume #21 Mon, 26 Jul 99 15:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux (gus)
Re: mandrake and annoying reappearing icons (Ernie DeVries)
more mouse problems (Jan Buys)
Hot weather causing crashes? (Rob Reid)
Re: Process incoming mail with a script. (Mike Galler)
Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250? (Nick)
Re: Can't use alt+right to switch tty's with FTE? (Peter Gavin)
Re: backing up system (Rod Roark)
Re: High load average, low cpu usage when /home NFS mounted (Paul Kimoto)
Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42 (Scorpio)
Re: Maximum filesize limitation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: newbie: 'ls' scrolls past top of screen (Peter Gavin)
Linux version of xstr? ("Bob J.A. Schijvenaars")
ftp config (Jason Rotunno)
Re: Need help Setting up filesystem (wine)
Re: named question (wine)
Re: at HOme cable improvements suck (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Linux friendly ISPs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Matt Curtin)
Is there an FTP site for the Linuxware Distribution (Adam)
svga problem under linux ("Kim N. Jensen")
Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (Donovan Rebbechi)
LILO and Multiple Linux Distribution installs ("Don Whitlow")
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Richard Kulisz)
Re: POP Mail? ("Andrew Dolan")
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Subject: Why all the symbolic links in linux
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:57:19 +0100
Norman Levin wrote:
>
> There still seems to be a misconception on what symbolic links do
> over 'hard' links. In other systems I've worked with, the command compress,
> uncompress and zcat are all HARD LINKS. With an ls -l, you
> can see the link count is 3. Since all of these are commands, they
> are found in /usr/bin (in the system I'm referring to). Hard links
> are basically, multiple directory entries with different names, that have
> the same inode number. It is the same as calling a program by n different
> names. The ONLY reason symbolic links exist is so you can have the
> advantage of hard links AND cross filesystems. Since each filesystem has
> it's own unique inodes, you can NOT have hard links.
>
> In fact, in browsing thru one of the redhat distributions, I came
> across a program that would turn symbolic links to hard links when
> appropriate. The ONLY reason I don't want to run this program, is when
> I'm demonstrating some features of Linux to others, I want my system to
> look as much like theres as possible.
>
> Maybe there's something in the filesystem standards document. Right
> now, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
> --
> Norman Levin
> vm/dynAmIX inc.
I see things two ways. Soft links create a master / slave situation.
Hard links create multiple masters in a peer type arrangement.
I use soft links normally, and I do this because for most instances,
there is clearly one file which is the primary file, and all the links
are only those, are links to it. For me the classic examples are
/bin/perl and /usr/bin/perl which is a symlink to /bin/perl. This is in
for some purpose which SuSE believes appropriate. I consider /bin/perl
tp be a master copy, and the /usr/bin/perl to be a convenient link.
The other example is /usr/src/linux, and /usr/src/linux-2.2.7 which I
considder to be one and the same, and thus I disagree with the normal
use of a symlink from "linux" to "linux-2.2.7".
But, I always use symlinks because my mind can better cope with a
master/slave type relationship, and also, ls -la gives pretty colours!
The colour thing is more important than I at first seem to suggest. For
me it makes things blatantly obvious, and useful.
gus
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From: Ernie DeVries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake and annoying reappearing icons
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:04:17 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The default desktop icons are located in /etc/skel/Desktop. I discovered
this while trying to make sure that new users received an icon that wasn't
included in the default set. I presume that getting rid of an icon in this
location would solve your problem, but I haven't tried it. BTW, I'm using
5.3 so I don't know if 6.0 has changed this location.
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From: Jan Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: more mouse problems
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:28:21 +0200
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Hello all,
I'm new to Linux and already experiencing troubles. It seems that my mouse
(ordinary microsoft serial mouse) won't work under X unless I run 'mouseconfig
--kickstart' each time I start the X environment. But still then I experience
that the windows on the screen regularly spontanuously lose scope and that it's
hard to give them back scope (I must click on their icon in the taskbar). It
feels as if my mouse is clicking automatically outside the window - maybe this
is an insane explanation - anyway I don't have that problem when working with a
window manager that gives scope to the window under the cursor instead of upon
clicking of the mouse.
Anyone recognizing this situation ?
Thanks,
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From: reid@maxwell . astro . utoronto . ca (Rob Reid)
Subject: Hot weather causing crashes?
Reply-To: reid@ astro . utoronto . ca
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:18:07 GMT
Hi,
At home I use a 7 year old 50 MHz 486 which over the last few
months has started occasionally spontaneously rebooting, usually when
I'm editing something. It seems to happen on hot nights, so I thought
split second blackouts from too many air conditioners might be the
cause, but nothing else (i.e. clocks) seems to be affected, and if I
try restarting Linux right after one of these crashes, it gets just
past the fscking before crashing again, making me think that the CPU
might be too hot, even though all my fans are working (at least when I
watch them).
Has this happened to anyone else? Is there a cheap solution?
Running with the case off is undesirable, since we have a cat and baby
daughter who might poke their noses in when I'm not looking.
TIA.
--
Robert I. Reid <reid@ astro . utoronto . ca>
http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Remove the spaces to reply.
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From: Mike Galler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Process incoming mail with a script.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:16:24 -0400
Hi,
I need to have a c program run whenever mail is received. Do you know
how I would do this? If I just replace 'script' with 'c program' in the
example
below, would that work? (Maybe with the mail readable off of stdin?) Or
is
that too much to hope for? Any other ideas on how to do this?
Thanks
Mike Galler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Colin Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:57:00 +0100, TonyC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Bonina says...
> >> No need to answer this, guys! I found a way!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes there is !
>
> ".forward" file in your home directory which pipes the mail through
> the script:
>
> "| /path/to/script/script"
>
> or put the command in the /etc/aliases.
>
> Procmail is a popular piece of software for processing mail.
>
> --
> |Colin Smith: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows 2000: |
> |My Freeserve web pages: | The Zeppelin of |
> |http://www.yelm.freeserve.co.uk/ | operating systems.|
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From: Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:32:57 GMT
Hello,
Is there any companies out there ont he web that are selling Linux
boxes (Intel-based) running Redhat 6 for about $250? I heard somthing
about some kind of consumer boxes being pushed by Prodigy sometime soon;
but these sounded like more client boxes: I want to run a web and mail server.
If not for $250, what's the cheapest boxes on the net?
Thanks
for any info.
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From: Peter Gavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Can't use alt+right to switch tty's with FTE?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:32:51 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> (I'm currently using Debian 2.1)
>
> Usually when in bash (No X) I'll leave open several things in multiple
> terminals (IE: mc in tty1, lynx in tty2, a man page on tty3, etc...)
> and use alt+right to switch between them.
>
> However, the editor FTE (which I like a lot) has it's own alt+right
> key mapping to switch between multiple frames (docs) within itself.
>
> In order to get to the next tty I have to close it (get back to the
> shell prompt) so I can use alt+right. Any suggestions for a
> workaround to get to another tty without having to close it? (Yes
> I've RTFM..I've found no way to change it)
Try Ctrl+Atl+Right/Left.
Pete
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: backing up system
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:25:10 GMT
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yu should try this:
>tar zcvf /dev/st0 /
No, you want to preserve permissions and skip /proc and other
filesystems. Use:
# tar zcplvf /dev/tape /
It's even better to boot up a rescue filesystem for this purpose,
rather than backing up a live root partition.
-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: High load average, low cpu usage when /home NFS mounted
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:46:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Steiner wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kelly Burkhart wrote:
>>> [from the proc(5) man page:]
>>> loadavg
>>> The load average numbers give the number of jobs in
>>> the run queue averaged over 1, 5 and 15 minutes.
>> Really? I thought processes waiting on IO were not in the run queue;
>> only processes that were "ready to run".
> The manpage is wrong.
> The loadavg shows the number of "active" tasks. Active does not only
> mean "running", but also "doing critical I/O".
[code from kernel/sched.c snipped]
> All tasks are counted that are either TASK_RUNNING,
> TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE or TASK_SWAPPING.
Okay, but try the following experiment on an NFS client:
#!/bin/sh
while /bin/true; do
cat > /dev/null LIST_OF_LONG_NFS_MOUNTED_FILES
done
In my list of long files I have stuff like the emacs-20.4 source tar
file (i.e., several MB long). Each "cat" is taking ~1 minute, and
"top" reports its %CPU at ~10%, but my load average is slightly above
1.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Scorpio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:31:30 GMT
pegri wrote:
>
^^^^^
> The rootfs is set incorrectly: You don't have any logic partition on hda
but
> your kernel tries to mount the 38th logic partition (03:42 are the
> major:minor device numbers of /dev/hda42). Edit your lilo.conf (if you
boot
> from HDD) or run rdev on the floppy (if you use such a thing for booting)
> to set the right root partition.
But my 2.0.36 kernel boots perfectly on the same machine with the same
settings (2 labels in lilo.conf)....could there be a problem in the kernel
working with that particular hardware (430VX chipset). I've tried it on 2
different boards of hte 430VX chipset, both failed to boot 2.2.10 kernel
but booted 2.0.36
What settings in the kernel config should for?
Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Maximum filesize limitation
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:52:46 +0059
Bill Verant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have actually run into a problem with the 2GB filesize limitation
: under Linux (ext2 filesystem). I was using kernel version 2.0.36, but I
: have upgraded to 2.2.10 as of today. Unfortunately, the results are the
: same and I am now wondering if there is patch or another way around this
: filesize limit? I have a legitimate need for a larger-than-2GB file.
Well, the easiest way to get around this limitation is to get yourself
a real computer (i.e. one with a 64 bit processor such as an Alpha
or a SPARC Ultra). They have no such limit and indeed my Alpha is working
on a problem which requires an 8 Gb file as I write. I believe that
Linus' opinion is basically the same.
If you are unable to upgrade your hardware, then I believe that lots
of folks have been working on ways around the problem and a patch exists
at ftp://mea.tmt.tele.fi/linux/LFS/. The documentation seems a little
scant, but I gain the impression that you have to specifically support
it in the source code of your applications and that it doesn't work
with glibc 2.1.
Hope that helps.
--
Richard Simpson
Farnborough, Hants, Uk Fax: 01252 392118
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not aware of any views shared by myself and my employers.
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From: Peter Gavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie: 'ls' scrolls past top of screen
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:06:49 -0400
gene wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Glenn Wittrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > And once you have a preference for any of the fine commands listed in the
> > other replies, edit your .bashrc file for handy aliases. In the root
> > directory for each user ( and /root for root user) you will find a file
> > called .bashrc that holds preferences that are loaded when the user logs
>
> I use tcsh and in my ~/.login:
>
> alias l "ls -la"
> alias ll "ls -la | less"
>
> These are even simpler.
>
> Less seems to be the better pager because of the ability to scroll forward
> and backwards.
>
> --
> ::::: Gene Imes http://www.ozob.net :::::
Even better: If you use bash, try this:
function l() {
ls -BFal --color $*
}
function lm() {
l $* | less -Xr
}
The -Xr switch on less is necessary to let the color ansi escape codes
pass through w/o confusing less.
Pete
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From: "Bob J.A. Schijvenaars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux version of xstr?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:13:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I'm switching from HP-UX to Linux but miss the xstr tool I used under
HP-UX. I couldn't find something similar under Linux. Is there a Linux
variant (possibly under a different name) that does something similar?
Bob
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________________________________________________________________________
Bob J.A. Schijvenaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Medical Informatics, Talk....+31-(0)10 408 8116
Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences, Erasmus University Rotterdam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Rotunno)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ftp config
Date: 26 Jul 1999 16:24:25 GMT
i've got a question about configuring ftp. i've recently installed a
linux box (maybe in march - slackware 3.6) and everything seems to be
going ok. one problem that i'm having, though is that i can't upload
anything via anonymous ftp (permission denied). i've checked the
permissions on the directory which seem ok. i've even set the permissions
to 777 on the ftp directory, but still no luck. i thought that at one
time i was able to upload using anonymous ftp, but i might have just
tested downloading. maybe anonymous ftp is disabled, but i'm having
trouble on finding out how to check this. i didn't find any information
in the "running linux" book or the "linux system administrator's guide" on
sunsite on how to configure ftp. i've also installed linuxconf becuase i
thought it might help, but i don't see any ftp configuration options. if
anyone can give me some suggestions i'd appreciate it. thanks.
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From: wine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help Setting up filesystem
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:27:00 +0100
LLoyd wrote:
>
> Could someone please advise me how to setup the linux filesystem.
> I am using a 3.2 gig h/d as my master drive and I intend to ONLY useRedHat
> linux 5.2 on this drive.
> I get an FDisk error if I try and use DiskDruid. If I select skip during the
> install I am presented with the "Setup filesystems" window. It displays as
> follows:
>
> =====================[ Set up New Filesystems ]=======================
>
> Mount point Device Requested Actual Type
> hd1 3075m 3075m
> win95 FAT32
>
> Drive summaries
> Drive Geom [c/h/s] Total used
> free
> hda [ 781/128/63 ] 3075m 3075m 0m
> [#########]
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------
> [
You need to create a filesystem (aka partition) of type Linux Native.
However, you will not be allowed to create this (if I have read the
fdisk map correctly) because you have no spare space on the disc.
You can:
1 Delete the current Win 95 partition, then create the Linux one
or
2 Change the type of the partition (this is on the advanced menu)
It is not advisable to just create a Linux native partition - create
some swap space as well. With 5.2 you can only have swap partitions of
127 Mb, but you can have several of them. One is probably enough for
the present.
This would make option 1 above the better route to take.
--
Keith Matthews Spam trap - my real account at this
node is keith_m
Frequentous Consultants - Linux Services,
Oracle development & database administration
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From: wine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: named question
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:44:17 +0100
William Wueppelmann wrote:
>
> In our last episode (23 Jul 1999 08:27:54 +0100),
> the artist formerly known as Mark Brown said:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) writes:
> >
[snip]
> I think I have it working now. I was going by the instructions in the
> Linux Network Administrator's Guide and TCP/IP Network Administration, but
> neither mentioned anything about /etc/named.conf (that I came across), and
> I assumes that the information in /etc/named.boot supplied the necessary
> pointers. I'm still not 100% clear about the relationship between the two,
> but I suppose that I can RTFMpage for that.
>
One thing I have found needs care is the order in which nameserver IPs
are specified in resolv.conv. Make sure yours is _not_ the first or
sendmail may bounce incoming mail when it tries to do a lookup of the
addreses.
This may vary with your ISP however.
======
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node is keith_m
Frequentous Consultants - Linux Services,
Oracle development & database administration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: at HOme cable improvements suck
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:10:03 GMT
Kamal abu Masri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I like Red Hat, but their new connections with at Home have me worried.
: At Home cable modem has recently introduced a new "feature" as quietly
: as possible: they have reduced the speed for both uploading and
: downloading. If you have been sitting at large sites once again annoyed
: by several minuets wait while the page loads, you can thank at Home for
: what they claim is improved service. However, unannounced, and more
: maddening for me, is the connection times out and you can't reestablish
: the connection. If you listen to BBC, music, or use other services on
: the net and don't actively "do" anything, the modem simply shuts off.
By "simply shuts off", do you mean that the lights go out on the modem, or it
just doesn't appear to work anymore.
I've had @Home since December 1998, and I've not had this problem. It may be
something local to your setup.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux friendly ISPs
Date: 26 Jul 1999 12:28:31 -0400
Dhiraj Kacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> to connect. In particular, I'd like to know how good the
> following ISPs are :
>
> 2. Att World Net
I use ATT, mainly because they are $15/mon instead of $20.
I never needed their support, I used a windows 3.1 system to
do the initial logon, and using altavista found the rest of
what I needed for Linux.
--
Tom Evans
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From: Matt Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:28:25 -0400
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:46:09 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) said:
Stewart> Yes they do - they just don't do damage. Instead, many of
Stewart> them (rightly so!) capitalize on their abilities by selling
Stewart> the solution to the problem to the people who own the
Stewart> computer they "hacked" into.
Hacking has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with breaking into
computers. Hackers do not become such by breaking security schemes.
Hackers are hackers because they write programs. Lots of them. With
skill that exceeds that of "normal programers" by far.
If you believe otherwise, go read the Jargon File and do not return
until you have been enlightened.
--
Matt Curtin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/
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From: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Is there an FTP site for the Linuxware Distribution
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:31:27 GMT
Is there an FTP site for the Linuxware Distribution?
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From: "Kim N. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.games.mame
Subject: svga problem under linux
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:32:34 +0200
I have a PII 233 Mhz Intel machine, and I was quite disappointed trying
to run xmame under X.
The speed was incredibly slow, especially compared to mame running under
the lesser OS called NT.
Well perhaps it will run fine using svga, I though, but I can not get it
to run!
I get the following error message : Svgalib mode : 11 (800x600) not
supported, unable to initialize display.
My xmamerc contains a line with videomode = 0, which ought to be
640x480...
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance
Kim N. Jensen
kjensen@(NOSPAM)devnull.dk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:42
Date: 26 Jul 1999 16:26:52 GMT
Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> The rootfs is set incorrectly: You don't have any logic partition on hda but
>> your kernel tries to mount the 38th logic partition (03:42 are the
>> major:minor device numbers of /dev/hda42).
> The numbers in the quoted error message are in hex: 03:42 => 3,66 =>
> /dev/hdb2
Oops! Didn't know that. Shame on me.
Peter
--
Peter Gritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`... so I'd rather you didn't try any last-minute stuff.'
I *AM* LAST-MINUTE STUFF, said Death, standing up.
[Terry Pratchett, Hogfather]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:36:19 -0400
On 26 Jul 1999 11:41:55 -0600, Larry wrote:
>On 26 Jul 1999 02:10:22 -0700, Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> exception. Hard work does NOT guarantee success -- if you're
>> >> an honest man, you admit that. Most people work hard ALL THEIR
>> >> LIVES and never get anywhere. That's the cold hard reality.
>
>Hard work does guarantee success, to those who view success as being
>something other than money.
The discussion is about the capacity for the poor to achieve *financial*
success. Are you admitting implicitly with your off-topic rant that
the poor have little or no prospects of financial success ?
>You sir are a loser in life. That is easily seen from your writing, and the
>way you constantly complain about other people's success.
>
>Loser, loser, loser.
Come one, if you really want to be a "winner", you will need to argue
your case more convincingly.
--
Donovan
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From: "Don Whitlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO and Multiple Linux Distribution installs
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:19:16 -0500
Hi All,
I am currently running Caldera OpenLinux 2.2, Windows 98, WinNT 40, and
Win2000 on a single machine and so far, everything works fine. I have lilo
setup to handle the linux kernel and the NT boot manager.
Caldera is installed across the following partitions
/dev/hda7 = /
/dev/hda8 = /usr
/dev/sda1 = /home
I installed RH6 last night, onto the following partitions:
/dev/hda9 = /
/dev/hda10 = /usr
/dev/sda1 = /home (would like to share these between distributions.)
How the heck would my lilo.conf look in order to do this? My working
lilo.conf file in Caldera looks like:
boot = /dev/hda
install = /boot/boot.b
message = /boot/message
prompt
timeout = 50
other = /dev/hda1
label = win
table = /dev/hda
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.25-modular
label = caldera
root = /dev/hda7
vga = 274
read-only
append = "debug=2"
============================================================================
=================
My working lilo.conf in Redhat for the linux portion of the config file
looks like:
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
label = redhat
root = /dev/hda9
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.5-15.img
read-only
How would I combine these in order to boot into either distribution? I seem
to have problems with the image, map, and install entries, since that
directory exists on each distribution's root filesystem.
Anyone else got this working? Is there another way to do it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Don
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 21 Jul 1999 07:04:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 20 Jul 1999 05:28:57 GMT, Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Suppressing destructive tendencies
>>entirely is feasible (as is more than amply proved by some cultures
>>like the Japanese) and the *only* way to go.
>
>The Japanese don't suppress destructive tendencies. They turn them inward,
>as evidenced by their astronomical rates of alcoholism and suicide.
And the fact that Japanese society is fucked up has nothing to do with
either? Total suppression of anger is the only redeeming feature of
japanese society I know of. But I guess you'd prefer if people lash
out at their neighbours?
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From: "Andrew Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: POP Mail?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:55:54 +0100
>anyone know how to tell if POP mail is running ?
If you are using, say, Netscape, you need to know the address of the Pop3
server that your email is hosted on, contact your support staff to find this
out.
>then how can I setup some pop client like netscape to read it.
Go to the preferences section and then go to Mail & Newsgroups. Add a new
POP3 server.
>I have only IP addys, no Public Domain names (no company.com)
>How do you send someone email useing IP addresses?
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work.
As far as I know, you can't, although it may work if you give the IP address
of the mail server... I have never tried it.
Ian.
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