Linux-Misc Digest #231, Volume #21 Sat, 31 Jul 99 08:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Java - Installation Problems (Ryan Ho)
rpm problem: can not install (Eric)
Re: CIA assassinations (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Re: brain teaser ("Alex Abreu")
Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Adding a partition ("Robert J. Schweikert")
Re: Real player G2 beta for linux (Bev)
Re: Quicktime (John Thompson)
Re: ThinkPad 390 (A Shadow)
Re: Posting MS Project 98 schedules on GNU/Linux +Apache (Gerald Willmann)
Re: What I think of linux. (John Thompson)
Re: Ghost Pro (John Thompson)
Messenger ohne Verbindungsaufbau starten ("Dave")
Re: Need suggestions for tape backup device (David Mitchell)
Re: CD-RW - can't read them under Windows95, 3.1, etc... (default)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("Casper")
Re: using glibc 2.0/2.1 concurrently: a recipe for disaster? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux Training (Bob Koss)
Re: Quicken clone? (Bob Koss)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ryan Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Java - Installation Problems
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:18 +0000
Otha Stubblefield wrote:
>
> I have Redhat 6.0. I downloaded v1.1.8 of the jdk. I thought I had
> installed in correctly, but I get a SISEGV error (#11), when I try to run
> jre or compile java applets with java. What could be the cause?
I'm using jdk v1.1.7 and Redhate 5.2. It works fine on Redhat 5.2 but
when I upgrade the glibc the library from glibc 2.0.7 to 2.1, it refused
to work. Redhat 6.0 uses glibc 2.1. That could be a reason why your jdk
isn't working. As for solutions, I don't really know. I had the option
of downgrading my library, you might not have that luxury.
Hope this helped
Ryan
------------------------------
From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: rpm problem: can not install
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:11:53 -0800
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
==============A496541B7AF1DAFE75FC52D4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear RPM expert:
When I down load the upgrade or new package from RedHat's gnome's
package
I tried
rpm -vhi *rpm
rpm -Uvh --oldpackage *rpm
both can not install.
I Attach script file about the error on bash shell.
Any suggestion would highly appreciate and
thanks in advance
eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==============A496541B7AF1DAFE75FC52D4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;
name="instalerror"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline;
filename="instalerror"
Script started on Fri Jul 30 13:59:48 1999
[root@(none) gnome]#
startx[2Phalt[1@gedit[1Phaltstartx[2Phalt[1@gedits
manual.ps -DNOPAUSEls[Kcd kdeman gsgs manual.ps
[7Pman gscd kde man gsgs manual.ps |
more[Kls[K[13@gs tutorial.psls[Kcd
../kdels[Kcd kdevi itlives.c[9@cp create.c
itlives.c[10Pvi create.c[2Pstdb.cls[Kvi
cmdline1.cls[K./howdyls[K./a.outgcc -o howdy
howdy.c[13P./howdy0ls[Kgcc -o howdy0
howdy0.c[11Phowdy0.cls[Kcd
gookin[6Ppwd/bin/jdk1.2/bin/appletviewer compiler.html
[root@(none) gnome]# [16Pappletviewer compiler.html
[root@(none) gnome]# ls[Kcd Cl[3Plscd referencels[Kcd
kdevelopls[Kcd en[3Plscd HTMLls[Kcd
docx[4Plscd share[5P lstar xvzf c_c++*ls[Kcd
kde[4Plscdvi creator.c[9@cp create.c
creator.c[9Pvi alive.txtls[Kcd gookings
manual.psls[K[5@gs *.ps[1Pcd kdeifup
ppp0[2@down ppp0[4Pman lprlpr
tutorial.pss[Kcd ../kdevi
alive.txtls[K./creatorgcc -o creator creator.c
[root@(none) gnome]# [12Pcd ../gookingcc -o creator creator.c
[root@(none) gnome]# [11Plpr manual.ps rpm
-Uvh --oldpackage *.rpm
error: ORBit-0.4.3-3.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-52.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: control-center-1.0.5-22.i386.rpm does not appear to be a RPM package
error: glib-devel-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gmc-4.5.36-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gnome-core-1.0.7-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gnome-libs-1.0.10-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gnome-libs-devel-1.0.10-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gnotepad+-1.1.4-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gnumeric-0.27-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gtk+-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: gtk+-devel-1.2.3-1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
error: failed dependencies:
gnome-libs-devel is needed by control-center-devel-1.0.5-22
gnome-libs-devel is needed by gnome-core-devel-1.0.7-2
[root@(none) gnome]# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage
*.rpm[1P[1@g[1@n[1@o[1@m[1@e[1@-[1@l[1@i[1@b[1@s[1@-[1@d[1@e[1@v[1@e[1@l[1@*.rpm
error: gnome-libs-devel-1.0.10-2.i386.rpm cannot be installed
[root@(none) gnome]# exit
exit
Script done on Fri Jul 30 14:01:35 1999
==============A496541B7AF1DAFE75FC52D4==
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 31 Jul 1999 09:46:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<SNIP>
> Usually accompanied by Wagner's "Also Spoke Zarathustra"
Richard Strauss' "Also sprach Zarathustra"
(FYI, it means "Thus spoke Zarathustra")
--
Stefaan
--
PGP key available from PGP key servers (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/)
___________________________________________________________________
Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Saint-Exup�ry
------------------------------
From: "Alex Abreu" <simonet at bhnet dot com dot br>
Subject: Re: brain teaser
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 06:47:39 -0500
>What is the most commonly used MS-DOS command? Hint it's still used in
>Windows NT and does not work at the Netware server console. Hint 2: This
>command is also available in Linux, the command does a different
>function in NT as it does in DOS or Linux and this command can be
>disabled in Linux.
The command is "dir"
The listings in NT and MS-DOS are different, so they make different things.
In Linux it's an alias, so it can be disabled, right?
Alex
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:38:31 GMT
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:10:39 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have done my share of COM work. I would like to see someone find an
>uglier interface spec.
Ah the interfaces are idiotic. Much more than they need to be to provide the
same functionality. I was only talking about the ideas, particularly the bits
about versioning, not the awful implementation.
------------------------------
From: "Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding a partition
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:32:51 +0000
Got the first part done, howevere I am somewhat cnfused about the second part,
the mounting operation, could you give some more details on that?
Thanks,
Robert
William Wueppelmann wrote:
> In our last episode (Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:35:52 -0400),
> the artist formerly known as Robert J. Schweikert said:
> >My Linux partition is filling up, about 90% full right now, however I
> >have a Windoze/Dos partition on the same drive that I can empty.
> >
> >Is there a save way to add this partition as additional storage to my
> >Linux file system?
>
> If you want to reformat it, you can run fdisk and delete the partition,
> recreate it as a linux partition and then run mkfs (or mke2fs, if you have
> that alias) to format it. You can turn it into multiple Linux partition if
> you choose.
>
> Next, you'll want to decide where you want to mount the partition. For
> example, you could mount as your /home partition, in which case you would
> do the following:
>
> 1. mount the new partition under a temporary point like /mnt
> 2. copy /home to /mnt using the -a (archive) option
> 3. verify that the contents have been copied (unmount the partition and
> remount it and then check)
> 4. delete the contents of /home (but not the directory itself)
> 5. add a line to /etc/fstab that mounts the partition under /home
> 6. reboot, or better yet, just unmount the partition from /mnt and remount
> it on /home.
>
> --
> It is pitch black.
> You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
--
Robert Schweikert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real player G2 beta for linux
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:53:16 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Where can I get Realplayer G2 beta for linux. I tried
> > > http://proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html for the download. but
> > > it seems only possible to get realplayer 5.0 there.
It looked like the right place, but I didn't want to fill in all the
crap again just to test.
http://proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html <fill-in stuff
snipped>
brought me to a page where I could select the closest server to download
G2 for linux 2.0/2.2.
--
Cheers,
Bev
===============================================================
"Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."
-- George Orwell
------------------------------
From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quicktime
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:15:43 -0600
Robert Grimm wrote:
> Is there a Quicktime compatible program for Linux? Oh! Right! Apple
> holds their tech close so nobody can copy it. They have to right one.
> Does anybody know an email address that I (and everyone else) could send
> a request for the Linux version to?
Try /dev/null; that's where they seem to have sent all the
requests for an OS/2 version of Quicktime, anyway...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:44:14 +0200
Subject: Re: ThinkPad 390
From: A Shadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Feinnerg) wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am planning to get myself a laptop. Many people recomended the Think
>Pad 390. Has anyone had any experience using this model in Linux? Do
>all the systems work (audio? video? cdrom?)? I'd like to get in contact
>with a Think Pad 390 user who has sucessfully used this model in Linux.
>Please follow up on this post or contact be through my private e-mail
>address.
I don=B4t know about the 390, but TP 380 and 770 work pretty well with
current SuSE and RedHat distributions - including sound, video and
cdrom.
On my 770 I even have NT running on VMWare. NT being just a Linux
task is a quite fitting role for NT :>
--
Hajo
=20
------------------------------
From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Posting MS Project 98 schedules on GNU/Linux +Apache
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:59:23 -0700
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have just put together a Linux server for the office. Email, Samba
> and apache works well, but... I can't find any way to enable Microsoft
> Project 98 to "share" our projects on the server. I've tried to use the
> web options of the program but it doesn't work.
> Is it possible to solve this problems or I'm forced to use a MicroSoft
> server ??
what about NOT using M$ on the client side ?!
Gerald
--
------------------------------
From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:30:17 -0600
alann wrote:
> You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
> users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore PET.
> That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
I'm 44 and although I'm not a computer professional by any
means (no formal "computer" classes at all despite a couple
college degrees) my first exposure to computers was in Math
in my senior year of high school (1972) when we learned some
Fortran programming. As the high school didn't have any
computer facilities we would write our programs in spiral
notebooks and then after school go to the local college to
use their keypunch machines to punch them onto cards. We'd
put the cards in the job queue to be run overnight on their
IBM 1620 and our teacher would pick up the greenbar printouts
the next morning on the way to school. We'd go over them in
class, make the needed corrections in our notebooks and then
go back to the keypunches again after school to make another
run. In college I did a little BASIC programming on the
college's PDP-11/20 (teletypes instead of keypunches -- with
paper tape readers, no less! yeee-haw!) but these were
special-purpose programs for a population biology class
I was taking. Then a several year hiatus with no computers
until I bought a CP/M machine when my wife was in graduate
school.
> How many are over 40 and grew up in a generation that computers DIDN'T exist?
> How many users used a computer with Windows for their "virgin" computer
> experience?
I didn't try Windows until 1993 and that was already v3.1.
Only spent a year or so in Windows before switching to
OS/2. Picked up linux a little over a year ago. Set up a
three machine LAN (two OS/2 machines and one linux) at home
this past winter. Sometimes an old dog can learn new
tricks...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
------------------------------
From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghost Pro
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:48:07 -0600
JM wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program for linux similar to
> GhostPro (from Binary Research) - a program to duplicate
> harddisks by creating a file image of one harddisk and
> applying this image on to another harddisk, possibly checking
> for any differences in size from the source and acting accordingly..?
Check out the "dd" command. Should come as part of the
linux fileutils package.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
------------------------------
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Messenger ohne Verbindungsaufbau starten
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:34:47 +0200
Hi
Gibt es eine M�glichkeit den Netscape Messnger und/oder den Navigator 4.6
unter Linux zu starten ohne dass diese gleich zu Anfang versuchen eine
Verbindung aufzubauen?
THX
Dave
------------------------------
From: David Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need suggestions for tape backup device
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:44:33 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warren Bell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I'm thinking about getting a tape backup for my machine running RH 5.2.
>I don't know anything about them so I'm looking for suggestions. It
>will be for home use to do back-ups once in a while. I'm looking for
>somthing that's known to hook up easy, run on redhat with no problems
>and not cost me an arm and a leg. Any suggestions on what's good?
>
>Also, do they have internal and external? I guess external would be
>better?
>
>Thanks,
>Warren Bell
I don't even know whether this is applicable; but my advice is to avoid
anything from Iomega like the plague.
Five pounds of shit in a two pound bag.
--
==========================================================================
David Mitchell ===== A life spent making mistakes is not only
================================ more honourable but more useful than a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== life spent doing nothing. - GBS
==========================================================================
------------------------------
From: default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD-RW - can't read them under Windows95, 3.1, etc...
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:01:32 -0500
You might go to the CD-ROM manufacturer's website and see if they have a
UDF reader driver for the CDR drive under windows 95. It should be built
into windows 98, but the reader will help there too if it is not
installed. Before windows 95 you may be out of luck, but check anyway.
WIN32S running on Windows 3.11 may offer some options in that department.
Jim
"Noah Roberts (jik-)" wrote:
> de Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > After reading the mkisofs and cdrecord documentation
> > i've started to write to one CD-RW medium to see if it
> > works. I was able to mount and read it fine under the
> > Linux box where i've burned it, also under Windows NT4.0.
> > However, under 98, 95 and older OS's it doesn't work
> > at all (The OS says : Drive D: not ready).
>
> Is it a CD-RW drive or at least a MultiRead CD-ROM?
>
> > I also wasn't able to read it on another Linux box with
> > a 4 speed CD device !
>
> Of course not. Its a CDRW media and older CDROMS are incapable of
> reading them.
>
> The problem is hardware. Its old hardware that cannot read the disk,
> not the older OS. If you took the drive that won't read the disk and
> put it in the computer that will it would not work.
>
> It sucks yes, but the old CD-ROMS can't read CDRW disks, the media is
> too dark and the lazer is not reflected enough for them.
------------------------------
From: "Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:09:02 GMT
"SK" == "Stuart Krivis" writes:
SK> It's rather obvious that the Amiga does not have a spelling
SK> checker...
How lame can you possibly be? Spelling flames are for the very lame
and children only!
SK> I suppose I should just throw away my unix box and buy an Amiga.
Huh? Better yet, why not shove it up your ass?
SK> BTW, is an Amiga like a Coleco Adam or something? A Gameboy on
SK> steroids..
You're really showing just how stupid you are now!
SK> Maybe now the Amiga fanciers will killfile me. Of course, they
SK> have to figure out how to spell my name first.
Oh, we could surely spell your name. But who would want to killfile
you? It is a joy to read posts from complete idiots, and always makes
for a good laugh.
--
========================================================================
Posted with Amiga NewsRog
========================================================================
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: using glibc 2.0/2.1 concurrently: a recipe for disaster?
Date: 30 Jul 1999 20:17:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Young wrote:
> I would like to use
> some RPMs that are new with RedHat 6.0, but many of them require glibc
> 2.1. I am certain that replacing glibc 2.0 with 2.1 will break programs
> that are presently installed. I need only compare the contents of my
> present installation with the contents of an installation that someone
> broke by installing 2.1 to know this.
>
> So, what if I don't replace glibc 2.0, but I install 2.0 and 2.1 side by
> side? I.e., instead of running rpm -U ..., I will run rpm -i --force ...,
> instead.
Each of your dynamically linked glibc programs requires the dynamic loader
/lib/ld-linux.so.2. There is a glibc-2.0 version and a glibc-2.1 version,
and neither can load the other's libc. I suppose that what happens will
depend on which /lib/ld-linux.so.2 your mixed system ends up with.
The upshot is that you can't install them side by side.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
------------------------------
From: Bob Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux Training
Date: 31 Jul 1999 07:39:08 -0400
"JamesH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Can anyone recommend a good Linux Training Organization?
> Has anyone used or heard anything about Linuxcare or Redhat training?
>
Learning Tree (www.learningtree.com) offers Linux training.
--
--
Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Object Mentor, Inc. | Tel: (800) 338-6716
Senior Consultant | 14619 N Somerset Cr | Fax: (847) 918-1023
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Green Oaks IL 60048 | www.objectmentor.com
------------------------------
From: Bob Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Quicken clone?
Date: 31 Jul 1999 07:33:19 -0400
"Eric Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been trying to get Wine (and Quicken under Wine) working to solve
> this very problem... no luck so far....
>
I tried the Wine route also but found it was too crash prone. And I *detest*
rebooting into windows once a week to pay bills.
I'm currently using vmware (www.vmware.com) and love it. I run the real Quicken
in the real windows, where windows runs as a process under linux. Way cool.
--
--
Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Object Mentor, Inc. | Tel: (800) 338-6716
Senior Consultant | 14619 N Somerset Cr | Fax: (847) 918-1023
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Green Oaks IL 60048 | www.objectmentor.com
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
