Linux-Misc Digest #273, Volume #21 Tue, 3 Aug 99 12:13:15 EDT
Contents:
dmesg ring buffer size... (Harry)
howto show baudrate? (Ari Vaisanen)
Re: How to avoid needing an fsck (was: Linux crashed) (David Mcilroy)
Re: ? Do cron jobs even if machine is down when due (Mats Pettersson)
Re: ? Do cron jobs even if machine is down when due (William Burrow)
Re: Difference between UNIX and Linux? (Chris Raper)
Re: /etc/fdprm and High Capacity Formatting (Stephen Satchell)
running red hat 5.2 from serial console (Bill Newberry)
Re: Looking for a good email client (Justin B Willoughby)
multiple pages on Linux using mpage and printtool (Ulrich Hahn)
uninstall linux (zackary)
Real*6 to float?
Re: COMMERCIAL: Micro-ATX Linux Boxes from Sunset Systems (Tony Beaumont)
pls help: system hangs on /bin/sync (S.T. Wong)
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
VMWare (Windows on Linux)? ("Boisy G. Pitre")
[Help] Netscape News Client Setup ("BiaBie4")
Re: helping the Third World (MK)
Runlevel behaviour (Yousuf Khan)
Re: IDE vs scsi? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: uninstall linux ("Alex R.M. Turner")
Re: math.h problem (Dik T. Winter)
Re: helping the Third World (MK)
Re: dmesg ring buffer size... (Dajan Posavac)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry)
Subject: dmesg ring buffer size...
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:12:30 GMT
Does anybody know how to increase the dmesg ring buffer size?
I'm trying to read my boot up messages after boot and the interesting
stuff is off the screen and NOT in dmesg!
I have a /var/log/boot.log BUT it's empty !!!
Not enabled somewhere?
Presumably dmesg is copied to boot.log via an rc.d script?
Thanks.
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From: Ari Vaisanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: howto show baudrate?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:30:36 GMT
How do i see what baudrate i have when i connect to my ISP?
I use slackware 3.6 with kernel 2.2.4 and ppp-2.3.5 with pppsetup-1.98.
Thanks In Advance!
cheers
/A. Vaisanen
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From: David Mcilroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to avoid needing an fsck (was: Linux crashed)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:08:48 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Randall Parker wrote:
> David,
>
> Is there any way to configure Linux so that it does all directory update
> writes immediately but caches regular file writes? What I'd really like
> is to be assured that the directory structure doesn't get corrupted. At
> least that way the files will all be accessible even if some of them
> didn't finish getting written before a crash.
>
> Also, why is this work-around below necessary? If Linux is flushing its
> disk cache every few seconds shouldn't it be enough to just wait 30
> seconds before hitting reset?
>
> Seems to me what is needed when the UI is hung is to have a way to stop
> all processes that are doing writes, wait for the file cache to flush to
> disk, and then shut down.
I really don't know. I'm a linux newbie, but I've had my share of problems
and help from this NG, so I thought I should contribute based on my
experience. I do know that Linux wants the disks unmounted before reboot;
thus the 'u'. I think the 's' does clear the buffer and flush the cache
immediately. I don't know, but one may be able to just use the <SysRq>-S key
combo to flush the cache. Try searching this NG with Deja; this may have
been discussed previously. My guess would be somewhere in rc.local, the
kernel itself, or somewhere else, there is a command to tell the OS how often
to flush. Just a guess, though.
Glad to help, as always
David
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From: Mats Pettersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ? Do cron jobs even if machine is down when due
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:03:40 +0200
Holger Peine wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> It would be nice to have such jobs executed at the time of the next
> start of crond (i.e. usually at reboot time). Is there any version
> of crond which does this? (I know I could build my own by some scripts
> called during boot up and shut down, parsing the crontab etc., but I
> don't want to go that trouble).
I don't know of a cron that does that, but i would believe it would be
harder to install, update and configure such a cron than doing a
startupscript yourself. It could just be something like:
-- start --
#!/bin/sh
/path/to/job1
/path/to/job2
-- end --
Then you just have to put it in the proper rc directory.
Mats
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: ? Do cron jobs even if machine is down when due
Date: 3 Aug 1999 13:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:07:52 +0200,
Holger Peine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have various cron jobs on my private Linux PC (SuSE-6.1).
>However, there is no single time of day when my PC will always be
>online, and crond executes only jobs which are due at the very minute
>crond checks them. So, jobs which were due when the PC happened to
>be down are never executed.
Look for anachronistic cron. It executes jobs when it can.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Subject: Re: Difference between UNIX and Linux?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:26:47 GMT
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:19:45 -0400, "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm taking a course next term that uses UNIX. Is there any difference in
>the operation of the two operating systems? Are Pipe and Fork the same in
>the two systems?
Hi Scott
>From what I have seen (and I'm a relative newbie at Linux) the two
operating systems are very similar on the face of it. The basic
commands are the same but, like all flavours of UNIX, the directory
structures and installation/configuration procedures are different.
What kind of course are you doing and what sort of contact are you
going to be having with UNIX? Also, which UNIX?
Chris R.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: /etc/fdprm and High Capacity Formatting
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Satchell)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:30:48 GMT
apropos floppy
man 4 fd
man 1 mknod
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny Kim Leung) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hi everyone! I want to know how to format floppies to high capacities
>such as 1722, 1760, 1840, 1920, etc for making rootdisk. Is it necessary
>to edit /etc/fdprm? I glanced at this file as well as its man page but
>can't figure out how to add entries for 1760/1440. Anyone could show me
>his fdprm or point me to some sources of information?
>
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From: Bill Newberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: running red hat 5.2 from serial console
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:40:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have added the serial=1,9600n8 line to the lilo.conf.
This gives me the ability to use the serial terminal to enter
keystrokes.
If a link /dev/console to /dev/cua1 I can alos read the boot messages,
but the boot messages include a can't find file descriptor for console
message.
Is there another config to change?
The serial port has a getty configured, so without the change to
/dev/console will show the
tty login.
I am trying to achieve a box totally serially controlled for remote use.
Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good email client
Date: 1 Aug 1999 20:15:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I like mh because I can keep track of my mails without having to go
>>into a separate email program. I've never tried mutt, but exmh
>>wouldn't run on my system and I've always preferred mh-e/emacs,
>>anyway.
>
> Mutt is great!
>
I will have to second this! Mutt is great!
- Justin
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From: Ulrich Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.lang.psotscript
Subject: multiple pages on Linux using mpage and printtool
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:28:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At first: it works fine! Anything the filter recognizes gets 4-fold and
printed.
This is even true when piping dvips-generated Postscript as follows:
either: mpage -Plp dvi-generated.ps
or: lpr -P4fold dvi-generated.ps
BUT - and there is the problem -
any MS-generated Postscript - like from a Postscript printer driver via
Samba gets garbled after one or two mini-pages on the first sheet. I am
using the Apple LaserWriter II NTX v47.0 (and tried - of course -
others).
I already found some hints in the mpage-sources (2.4.7 from anno 1996),
for example it wont recognize NT-generated Postscript (and more) - but
still got no clue.
Any suggestions?
A suitable NT printer driver generating clean code would be enough..
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
At first: it works fine! Anything the filter recognizes gets 4-fold and
printed.
<br>This is even true when piping dvips-generated Postscript as follows:
<br>either: <tt>mpage -Plp dvi-generated.ps</tt>
<br>or: <tt>lpr -P4fold dvi-generated.ps</tt>
<p>BUT - and there is the problem -
<br>any MS-generated Postscript - like from a Postscript printer driver
via Samba gets garbled after one or two mini-pages on the first sheet.
I am using the Apple LaserWriter II NTX v47.0 (and tried - of course -
others).
<p>I already found some hints in the mpage-sources (2.4.7 from anno
1996), for example it wont recognize NT-generated Postscript (and more)
- but still got no clue.
<p>Any suggestions?
<br>A suitable NT printer driver generating clean code would be enough..
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From: zackary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: uninstall linux
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:30:38 GMT
hi guys,
i'm facing problem on partitioning my hard disk. i first install linux to
my hard disk. then now i decide to have both linux and win98 on my system. i want to
uninstall linux then reinstalling win 98 then linux. the problem is as i run fdisk and
delete the necessary partition then at the menu command of fdisk i type p for view my
partition. there remain hda something... .i format my harddisk with dos command and
install dos. when i try fdisk in dos mode there only 2gb space in dos. no other or
logical partition at all. but my hard disk actually 4.3 gb. when i bott from my hard
disk .. there LI at the last prompt and hang. any body please help me.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Real*6 to float?
Date: 3 Aug 1999 14:30:34 GMT
Please can anybody help me in converting a real*6 (Pascal!) to a float in
c? Is there perhaps a standard facility for it, or is it not all that
simple?
Thanks for any suggestions!
Regards,
Gerard
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From: Tony Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL: Micro-ATX Linux Boxes from Sunset Systems
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:41:00 GMT
Reply-To: Tony Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sunset Systems announces brand-new availability of Celeron-based
> Linux boxes in high quality AOpen Micro-ATX tower cases measuring
> only 14x7x14 inches.
>
You fail to mention the physical location of Sunset Systems. I'm looking for
a Linux box supplier in the UK.
Regards
Tony Beaumont
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S.T. Wong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: pls help: system hangs on /bin/sync
Date: 3 Aug 1999 14:22:14 GMT
Hi there,
We've a RH 6.0 server recently upgraded from 5.0. Whenever there're large
volume of data being read/write to filesystem, then a "/bin/sync" will hang
up the system - all disk I/O related operations hanged.
Would anyone please help?
Thanks a lot!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:44:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:56:04 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
wrote:
>It was the Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:08:37 GMT...
>..and MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:59:27 +0200, "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>> >> The problem is, as Adam Smith put it, in effective demand. The demand
>> >> only matters when it can be paid for. There are lots of people in the
>> >> world who have a demand for very basic things, but their demand is not
>> >> effective, because it can't be paid for. It does not matter really
>> >> what the size is. It's the quality, not the quantity, that matters.
>> >> The number of customers is not panacea.
>>
>> >Right, but most countries in the EU are not exactly poor. Most consumers have an
>> >income high enough to effort some luxuri and are willing to spend that money.
>>
>> Absolutely true.
>>
>> The problem is the future. The trend. If it goes on like that, the
>> whole Europe is going to become one big scansen. The nice
>> museum that Japanese take photographs in.
>In case they get over their economic crisis, that is. Unlike e.g. Japan's
>economy, Europe's is at least built upon solid foundations.
That's what they used to say about Japan's economy, too.
Japan is not exactly the best example: I meant rather
SE Asia, especially China et al.
>> The comparative
>> advantage. What's our comparative advantage?
>Education. As far as I know, USAmerican education is pretty much a
>joke compared to, say, German education.
That is true, absolutely. Education. This may be a point. Funny
thing is, the more US spends on education, the worse results
it gets.
>Of course, if the only thing that matters to you is a small elite, and
>not a large, well-educated and well-informed mass of working citizens
>who are able to do their part in a functional democracy, the
>USAmerican system might please you better.
But the US educational system was faring a lot better in the past!
50 years ago it was a lot different. So as you can see the state
of affairs can change easily. I don't share that easy optimism
about future of Europe.
Marcin Krol
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From: "Boisy G. Pitre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VMWare (Windows on Linux)?
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:45:52 -0500
A friend sent me a link to VMWare's home page. They have a seemingly nice
solution where Windows98 can run atop Linux. I am *most* tempted to act on
this, since my company has software that must run under Windows. Right now
I have a Linux box running my network and a separate Windows box, but it
would be great to combine the two. As I understand it, multiple Windows
sessions can be running in different windows, and the Windows "hard drive"
is merely a file.
Plus, there's the satisfaction of knowing that I'm running a cranky OS on
top of a solid OS, so if (or should I say 'when') my Windows session
crashes, I can simply restart it.
I just ordered a 450MHz K6-2 w/ 256MB of RAM and am strongly considering
this approach. Before I jump into this too far, I would like to hear from
others who have used VMWare's product and see what their opinions of it are
in terms of stability.
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From: "BiaBie4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Help] Netscape News Client Setup
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:20:42 -0400
I managed to setup the netscape with a news client. However, everytime I
started the netscape and went to read the news, the netscape always asked
for a user account and password. Can netscape just remember the account and
password like the IE5?
If you have managed to setup netscape with a news client withoug asking for
a user account and password to sign-on, please let me know. Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:27:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Jul 1999 17:21:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Noah Roberts (jik-) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
>>> Those "well, why don't you change the world yourself" responses are
>>> sure signs of a witless cretin.
>>
>>You do your part....noone can expect any more or less.
>The only way to actually do anything is to work collectively.
Says who?
All collective systems have failed so far. You may try genuine
communes. They are simply unsustainable.
Also, how do you solve following puzzle: take m people and n factors
into account. The number of influences of factors onto particular
people is:
(m + n + 1) * (m + n) / 2
For a million people and a thousand factors you have:
501 001 000 500
relations. A million people and a thousand factors is laughably
small? How do you manage your collective system? The astronomical
number of relations gets you. Sorry. Much better option is
the option of capitalism: everybody follows _enlightened_ self
interest.
>Yet
>selfish cretins opposed to redistribution keep asking socialists
>and left-wingers "Why don't you change the world all by yourself?"
>so in fact they *do* expect others to do the blatantly impossible
>before they stop being selfish assholes.
I don't have a moral duty for caring for everyone in this world.
Simple as that. I have a duty of not harming them, but that's
it.
Marcin Krol
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From: Yousuf Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Runlevel behaviour
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 15:19:20 GMT
Running a RedHat 5.2 system. Does Linux step through its runlevels like
Solaris, HP-UX, and other Unixes, or does it just jump from runlevel to
runlevel? For example, in Solaris, when you enter runlevel 3 from
startup, you go through all of the startup scripts for runlevels 0 to
2; similarly, when you go runlevel 0 from 3, you step through all of
the scripts for runlevel 2 to 0. But it doesn't seem to happen with
Linux (or at least RH5.2 anyway).
I created some startup scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d and linked them
into /etc/rc.d/rc2.d directory starting with the uppercase "S" followed
by a number and name, like is customary in Unixes. I never saw it ever
get started up (the default runlevel is 3). Instead I saw a message
saying, "starting INIT level: 3", but never saw any messages saying
that it was starting any of the other runlevels.
Should I link my scripts into rc3.d instead?
Yousuf Khan
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE vs scsi?
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:09:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On a single user workstation? Rarely. On an Internet Server with a Database
> > server providing data? Absolutely you can tell the difference.
>
> > Certainly for a single user system SCSI only makes sense if you want
> > to take advantage of the high speed peripherals and external
> > connections that SCSI will provide over EIDE. There are no EIDE
> > scanners or external drive cabinets, and SCSI tape drives still give
> > better throughput. But is that enough to warrant the extra expense,
> > even in the US where the penalty is more like 40% than double as it
> > seems to be in Europe? You have to decide. I went SCSI, most do
> > not for a workstation. BTW my company uses SCSI in all of the WinNT
> > workstations here, and I have nothing to do with that, FWIW.
>
> nothing says you cannot have an EIDE hard disk drive with a cheap
> narrow/slow SCSI for the external devices like tape and scanner.
Nothing except giving up another slot and interrupt and perhaps even more
cables.
Art S. Kagel
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From: "Alex R.M. Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: Re: uninstall linux
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:46:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try 'fdisk /mbr'
in dos. That should wipe out the master boor record where LILO resides.
Anywhich ways, you are probably better of booting from floppy and
installing win98 from the floppy boot (make sure you have a floppy with
mscdex and the relavent driver for your CDROM). And DOS (FAT16 format) can
only recognise up to 2.1gigs of disk, so that might be where that is
comming from. I'm not sure about your fdisk readout without knowing
exaclty what it says..
MM
> hi guys, i'm facing problem on partitioning my hard disk. i first
> install linux to my hard disk. then now i decide to have both linux
> and win98 on my system. i want to uninstall linux then reinstalling
> win 98 then linux. the problem is as i run fdisk and delete the
> necessary partition then at the menu command of fdisk i type p for
> view my partition. there remain hda something... .i format my harddisk
> with dos command and install dos. when i try fdisk in dos mode there
> only 2gb space in dos. no other or logical partition at all. but my
> hard disk actually 4.3 gb. when i bott from my hard disk .. there LI
> at the last prompt and hang. any body please help me.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dik T. Winter)
Subject: Re: math.h problem
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:35:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz
Kylheku) writes:
> >> The problem can be fixed without breaking the -lm kludge or *any*
> >> Makefile rules relying on it: put all the math stuff in *both* libc and
> >> libm. This way, -lm will no longer be necessary, but including it on
> >> the gcc command line will cause no harm.
...
> A system that is intended to be compatible with another one should not only
> provide the same functionality for correct input, but also the same
> diagnostics for what is considered bad input.
There are already enough versions of Unix that *do* include libm in libc.
The first time I encountered one was on one of the first Unix versions on
Cray. That one had not even a libm, so -lm would give an error. That was
corrected later.
On the other hand, try "ls -slablaadje" on different Unix systems and see
what different responses you get, some give (varying) error messages, other
not.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 14:44:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:49:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Kenneth P. Turvey) wrote:
>>Will these idiots never learn?
>>Redistribution of wealth would cause a world wide financial collapse.
>Wealth is already being redistributed in almost every reasonably
>advanced economy.
And such economies stutter. Go to France.
>It would be quite reasonable to argue that this
>redistribution of wealth is necessary for the maintenance of stability
>in society.
Mabye, but definitely not on planet Earth.
>In our country (USA) we do this through transfer payments and a
>progressive tax system. There are other methods that might be better
>(but I don't really want to get into all that).
Yeah, you're doing good job. You've already ruined US education.
>>The rich and successful work as hard as they do TO BECOME RICH.
>>If the opportunity to become rich is taken away, which redistribution would
>>do, there would no longer be any reason for the successful to strive to
>>achieve the wealth that they do. Thus a total monetary collapse, just like
>>you see in Russia, Cuba and so on.
>
>Without some redistribution of wealth eventually there will only be a
>handful of very rich people and a multitude of virtual slaves.
And that multitude would all voluntarily work for exclusive benefit of
those few very rich because.... because.. I don't know why.
Soon, if it continues, 6 billion people will hand over what they
have to those few instead of trying to get the benefit in
the deal for themselves as well. Because they are altruist
for those rich. They feel like it. They want to be ripped off.
They have nothing against this. The customer does
not seek his own benefit. He seeks the benefit of company
only, not his own benefit. He just _loves_ to bend in front of
company.
You write a simplified version of idiotic concentration of wealth
theory by Marx. If it ever could happen, it would already happen
on the beginning of 20th century, don't you think?
Marcin Krol
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From: Dajan Posavac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dmesg ring buffer size...
Date: 3 Aug 1999 13:39:06 GMT
Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Does anybody know how to increase the dmesg ring buffer size?
: I'm trying to read my boot up messages after boot and the interesting
: stuff is off the screen and NOT in dmesg!
: I have a /var/log/boot.log BUT it's empty !!!
: Not enabled somewhere?
: Presumably dmesg is copied to boot.log via an rc.d script?
: Thanks.
Try to use shift-pgup after boot-up
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