Linux-Misc Digest #353, Volume #21 Tue, 10 Aug 99 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: lower to upper case? (Kent Perrier)
Re: bash question: changing path within script? (Chris Butler)
Re: Best Linux dist for running SCO software? (Kingsley Tart)
Re: force fsck -A on bootup? (Bo B)
Re: no-hlt and CPU temperature (Bo B)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Danny)
ATI Framebuffer ("Cedric Blancher")
Re: HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY PPP NOT WORK !! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Linux assembly, etc (Johan Kullstam)
Re: CIA assassinations (Peter Seebach)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: help (Big Daddy)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Same version number after a kernel patch (Joshua Li)
Kernel Panic on Boot Up ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can I use DISK DRUID after install . . . (Robin Smith)
Re: writing audio cds with xcdroast 0.96e (Aaron Ginn)
no-hlt and CPU temperature (Bo B)
using setserial to change irq on serial port (Jan Cernohorsky)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Pretty Boy Mohandas)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Martin R. Green)
Re: mySQL vs mSQL (Tom Fawcett)
Re: helping the Third World (MK)
Re: Strange bootup message in RH 6.0 (Robin Becker)
Re: Brand recommendation? (Norman Weathers)
How do I tell RH sees a second CPU? (Jared Hecker)
Sidewinder Force Feedback Joystick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lower to upper case?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 09:48:14 -0500
{also cc'd to author}
scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In bash, tcsh, or csh, is there a way -- be it a builtin, a utility, or
> some way of writing a script -- to take an arbitrary string input and
> turn it into a string whose letters are all upper case? I know this can
> be done in zsh, but I don't have access to it. Thanks for your help.
Look at the man page for tr.
Kent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Butler)
Subject: Re: bash question: changing path within script?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 11:35:42 +0100
[comp.os.linux.misc - 3 Aug 1999 07:32:54 GMT] * Gary wrote *
> One way around this is to source your script, i.e., by preceding its
> name with a period and a space:
> . set_path
Note that the POSIX-compatible way is actually:
. ./set_path
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Chris Butler
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From: Kingsley Tart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux dist for running SCO software?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:21:28 +0100
> If you have binaries that you need to run, make sure that you install
> ibcs.
>
What is iBCS? Is it a set of libraries?
Cheers,
Kingsley.
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From: Bo B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: force fsck -A on bootup?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:01:42 -0400
It can be a bad HD, or MB.
The older MB might have a chip that gives Linux a lot of troubles.
(there are some options in the kernel compilation that deal with this
problem).
What kind of MB & CPU do you have?
Fixing the errors means that there are not fatal. But they occur just too often.
I think that the problem is in the MB.
(Or it can be in the RAM as well.
Do you have problems(errors) when compiling the kernel?)
Bo
benjamin j snyder wrote:
> I recently installed RH6.0 on my machine (intel), and occasionally can't start
> X. I was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem. I downloaded the
> image and made a cd, which was a day or two before I saw it on the shelves.
> Could it be that I have a buggy image?
>
> Whenever X fails to start I log out and fsck -A the drive. It finds errors
> like duplicate blocks and incorrect counts on blocks/inodes etc. If I restart
> the machine after this and log in normally it works fine. I'd say this happens
> 2 or 3 out of every 10 times I try to start X.
>
> I plan on getting a later image and making a new cd, but I need a go around
> until I have time to do that (I'm a full time college student) and was
> wondering if I could force fsck -A on bootup (and make it automatically fix
> errors). I know this will take longer, but at least it will be more consistant
> acting.
>
> Could this be a bad HDD? I wouldnt think so since it CAN fix the errors and
> work fine for a while.
>
> Thanks in advance to those who reply.
> --
> Ben Snyder
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From: Bo B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: no-hlt and CPU temperature
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:06:03 -0400
Normally the kernel shuts down the CPU when there is nothing to
process. no-hlt disables this.
I tested this by making the CPU run something and move the mouse. No noise.
But as soon as the CPU finished, the noise came back. With no-hlt option, I
don't get any noise.
I read some comments on the newsgroups, and all dealt with the cause and
solution
of the noise. None with the "side-effects"( like risks to the CPU, MB because
of overheating)
Bo
benjamin j snyder wrote:
> I'm not familiar with 'no-hlt' What exactly does it do? Is it a kernel
> feature, or is it something with slackware?
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bo B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have an AMD K6-2 450MHZ on a Soyo super7 MB,
> >and a PS2 mouse, which makes a lot of noise when I move it.
> >I run Slackware 4.0 with a 2.2.x kernel.
> >I tried the "no-hlt" option in lilo, and now it stopped making noise.
> >
> >I just wonder if this is a safe (sane?!) option for the CPU.
> >Doesn't it run too hot? Is it dangerous for the MB, unstable for the
> >system?
> >
> >Bo
> >
> >
>
> --
> Ben Snyder
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From: Danny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:30:41 GMT
Bob wrote:
>
> How much different is Linux than Unix? Are the system commands
basically
> the same? What are the major differences between the two? Please help
> clarify this for me. Thank you in advance.
>
> Bob
>
>
>From a user's point of view there aren't any substantial differences
between Linux and Unix, i.e., the command lines, the applications,
concepts like environment variables, etc are pretty much the same.
The main difference however, is that Linux can be installed on Intel-based
architectures, whereas Unix systems usually require dedicated (and
expensive) hardware architectures.
Danny Kalev
"The ANSI/ISO C++ Professional Programmer's Handbook"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789720221
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From: "Cedric Blancher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Framebuffer
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:12 +0200
I've built my kernel 2.2.10 with framebuffer support for ATI video
cards. I used to have vesa framebuffer and I could change resolution,
giving args to kernel via LILO with vga=ask. But now, I can't do this
anymore. atyfb keeps ruuning on 80x30.
Does anyone know how to increase resoltuon with atyfb ?
--
C�dric Blancher
Communication Management Consulting
Dpt Inofrmatique
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY PPP NOT WORK !!
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:13:40 -0400
You need to use IP masqurading, you need to install the rpm for
it, no recompile of the kernel should be necessary, its compiled
as a module. See ipfwadm man page after installation. Configuration
is relatively simple. I do the exact same myself...
I also run bind (local DNS, caches internet requests) and leafnode for
offline news.
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: 10 Aug 1999 16:50:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Danny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From a user's point of view there aren't any substantial differences
>between Linux and Unix, i.e., the command lines, the applications,
>concepts like environment variables, etc are pretty much the same.
>The main difference however, is that Linux can be installed on Intel-based
>architectures, whereas Unix systems usually require dedicated (and
>expensive) hardware architectures.
>
>Danny Kalev
That is a very strange view of UNIX.
UNIX was ported to Intel-based architectures well before Linux
appeared, and today there are several variations of UNIX
(including Linux) which run on the PC. And on top of that, UNIX
can produce better results on older less sophisticated PC's,
such as 80386 or 80486 cpus, than most of the recent OS's (such
as MicroSoft OS's).
Floyd
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Linux assembly, etc
Date: 10 Aug 1999 10:56:08 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) writes:
> On 09 Aug 1999 19:08:18 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >of course it's not *really* a shared library. however, on the surface
> >it shares a couple of attributes:
> >
> >1) system calls are done by a C subroutine call mechanism. in x86 you
> > push args onto the stack and use a `call' instruction.
>
> Linux system calls are done by executing traps. On x86, this would be the int
> instruction. The C functions in libc are just wrappers, that set up the
> arguments, hit the trap and then fix up the result into a return value and
> errno.
>
> >2) the kernel is always in memory and all applications share it.
>
> But you can't see it because it's inaccessible.
sure it is accessible. you just got done telling me to use an int 80h
trap to access the kernel! these cause kernel routines to execute,
alter internal kernel structures and usually return with some value(s)
to the caller.
if you mean that i can't just have a stray pointer in a user program
go off and tinker with kernel data then, yes it's inaccessible. i
wish shared libs were also inaccessible in this way too. writing to
internal structures that do not belong to you is usually a mistake
(which would be nice to have trapped) or bad style.
--
johan kullstam
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:44:29 GMT
In article <7oppcq$9vg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The amount the tax payer spends on health in the Uk is about a quarter
>of that spent in the US. Whilst it is true that the US pay for a higher
>level of health that the UK they do not get four times the level
>than in the UK.
This is true, because we do a lot of the basic research the UK is using.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:39:54 -0400
On 10 Aug 1999 13:39:12 GMT, Richard Kulisz wrote:
>>Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Sung, Pal Pot, ... the list is long, but the
>
>And none of them were Marxists. And Pol Pot was backed by the USA.
>
>It's standard for idiots with no understanding of history or the
>nature of Marxism that they start talking about its "track record".
>If you actually knew anything about Marxism, you'd know just how
>absurd that is; Marxism is an international world order, short of
>that it isn't Marxism.
This seems entirely consistent with your philosophy that you shouldn't
try to do anything to change things until government legislation
mandates it. It also represents an admission that Marxism is an abstract
fantasy rather than an a viable political doctrine.
You have absolutely no evidence that Marxism can/will be succesful, and
in absence of such evidence, your pathetic excuse is that Marxism only
works when the whole world does it at the same time.
The case for extremism is invariably a rather
scary argument. The same kind of argument can be (and is ) used to
advocate facism in the US ( ie "our policy is not working, so we are not
'doing it' (rightism) hard enough" ). I would argue that if hitting
oneself in the hammer produces unsatisfactory results, the correct
solution is to stop hitting oneself with hammers. However, extremists on
both side of the political spectrum invariantly reach for a bigger
hammer.
From your post, we can infer that Marxism is some kind of abstract
and unattainable
fantasy ( because there's no way it will *ever* become an "international
order". ) in the absence of proof of concept, this would seem to be the
only fair conclusion.
--
Donovan
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help
Date: 10 Aug 1999 15:28:34 GMT
Scribbling furiously, adi flenner managed to write....
: where can I find the latest version of slackware ?
www.slackware.com
--
Big Daddy
Marriage, n.:
The evil aye.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:53:25 -0400
On 10 Aug 1999 13:29:28 GMT, Richard Kulisz wrote:
>Then you're a pretentious arrogant fuckhead of a twerp. *EVERYONE*
And you have time and time again stooped to personal attacks.
Read that again and ask how "scholarly" and "academic" that looks.
Marx would have been proud of you, no doubt (NOT).
You are not only a disgrace to yourself, but the political cause
which you (mis)represent.
Secondly, this is comp.os.* ... and you contribute nothing here besides
dogma and personal insults ( both irrelevant to the topic of the
group ). what's wrong with the politics
newsgroups ? Go and annoy them. You're a self proclaimed politics
guru, and yet you seem unwilling or unable to debate with other
politics experts. Is that because a group populated by experts
would rip you to shreds ?
Anyway, come back when you're done extracting that bee from your ass,
and are capable of providing coherent arguments ( preferably related
to this newsgroup ) ?
<PLONK>
--
Donovan
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From: Joshua Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same version number after a kernel patch
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:31:00 GMT
William Burkett wrote:
> Joshua Li wrote:
>
> > I patched and rebuilded 2.2.6 kernel, and it apparentlly runs fine, but
> > uname -a still tells me its 2.2.5. How can i correct this?
> >
> > COL2.2, Kernel 2.2.6(patched from 2.25)
>
> It runs fine? It doesn't look like the new kernel is running yet. Make
> sure you moved the new kernel image to /boot/vmlinuz (the image is
> probably /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage or bzImage). Don't forget
> to mv your old image from vmlinuz to some other name if you want to keeep
> it for emergency boots.
>
> If you've done that, all that remains is to run lilo. You might have to
> edit lilo.conf first, especially if you want both old and new kernels
> available at boot time. If you need help with this, feel free to email
> me.
>
Oh, that might be the thing. I never cinfiged LILO, so Please email me the
detail on that.
BTW, there is a new vmlinuz in / and it replaced old 2.25. If it boot from
/boot what role does the one in / play?
Thanks,
Joshua
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel Panic on Boot Up
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:43:18 GMT
Hi,
I just installed Red Hat 6.0 on my Dell Inspiron 7000 Laptop. I've
noticed that any time that I let LILO timeout and automatically select
Linux, that I get a kernel panic error. If I press enter before it
times out, then I receive no kernel panic.
Does anyone have any idea how to remedy this situation ? All my configs
seem fine and I reran Lilo. Oh well, any idea will help.
Thanks,
Brian Smith
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From: Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use DISK DRUID after install . . .
Date: 10 Aug 1999 16:06:46 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> How do I use Disk Druid after installation??
>
> I want to add a new hard drive to my existing install and I don't see
> how to do it on fdisk.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
fdisk /dev/hdb
or
fdisk /dev/sdb (SCSI)
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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: writing audio cds with xcdroast 0.96e
Date: 10 Aug 1999 10:47:49 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> I want to burn our Audio CD�S with the xcdroast frontend. It works
> fine, with one exception.
> If I want to burn our live CD I get a breake between two tracks, even
> if I disabled the "Skip last 2 seconds of track" in the Setup.
> I can merge the tracks, but than the whole CD is one big file.
> Anybody had this problem before.
>
> thanks
> Bernd
I don't think you can do this with xcdroast yet. What you want to do is
record in disk-at-once (DAO) mode. DAO is supported in cdrecord 1.8.*
versions. Xcdroast bundles cdrecord 1.6.* versions which, AFAIK, do not
support DAO. I ran into this because I wanted to record some operas that
I have, and I was getting the two second break between tracks. What you
need to do is get cdrecord 1.8 and use it outside of xcdroast. I have
used this several times and it works great. In fact, I have both versions
of cdrecord so that when I don't need DAO, I can simply use xcdroast for
recording.
Here's an example of using cdrecord in DAO:
cdrecord -v dev=0,0 speed=2 (or 4, 6, etc.) -dao -audio <track1 track2 ...>
One other thing, your drive must be able to support DAO. Not all do.
HTH,
Aaron
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From: Bo B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: no-hlt and CPU temperature
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:54:49 -0400
I have an AMD K6-2 450MHZ on a Soyo super7 MB,
and a PS2 mouse, which makes a lot of noise when I move it.
I run Slackware 4.0 with a 2.2.x kernel.
I tried the "no-hlt" option in lilo, and now it stopped making noise.
I just wonder if this is a safe (sane?!) option for the CPU.
Doesn't it run too hot? Is it dangerous for the MB, unstable for the
system?
Bo
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From: Jan Cernohorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: using setserial to change irq on serial port
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:30:43 GMT
I have a SuSE 6.2 Linux installation on a dual processor PII 300 box. The
modem is ISA and on COM3. In the standard setting the irq on the port in
question would like to be irq 4. It needs to be 5. I have tried to use
setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5
(as root), but it comes back with
"Operation not permitted"
Permissioning as such should not be a problem since I attempt this as
root. Even worse, if I try to call setserial at boot time through the
relevant script in /etc/rc.d/serial
I get the same negative result. Anybody any idea what may be causing this
goofy behaviour of setserial, or any other way to reset my IRQ on that
port ?
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From: Pretty Boy Mohandas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:35:43 +0600
Floyd Davidson wrote:
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
How do you pronounce that? [ook-pee-dveek]?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin R. Green)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:34:01 GMT
UMM, excuse me, but doesn't *every* OS manufacturer want this? Doesn't
Linus? (in fact Linus is content with nothing short of World
Domination) Wouldn't you if you had a company that sold operating
systems?
CIAO - Martin.
On 10 Aug 1999 14:03:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Hobbyist � <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 09 Aug 1999 23:05:24 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote these
>>sagacious words :
>>: yes, but i cannot choose my employer based on what computer system i
>>: get. they *all* want me to use microsoft windows.
>>
>>That's because Windows is the dominant OS.
>
>And you don't think MS deliberately and consciously set out to
>dominate the PC OS market? William Gates III said as much!!
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mySQL vs mSQL
Date: 10 Aug 1999 12:16:44 -0400
Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > If you check out www.mysql.org they have a breakdown
> > on why MySQL is better than mSQL (well at least why
> > you should consider MySQL over mSQL). Also a better
> > function by function breakdown is available in the
> > MySQL documentation file within the .tar.gz.
> >
> > Cheers, Grahame
> > --
>
> Yes, It seen that MySQL provide better manual and feather, but can you
> tell more about the function?
> More, is it really that mSQL is no more advantage over mySQL other than
> "mini"?
I don't know how recently this page has been updated, but try:
http://www.tcx.se/crash-me.html
(crash-me is a program that detects limits of various databases.)
-Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:04:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 08 Aug 99 13:31:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
wrote:
>> OTOH, you have a country that has been on the balance more libratarian
>> than any other. And it is one of the most prosperous on Earth. Draw your
>> own conclusions.
>
>The most libertarian country currently is Somalia -- there the govmt
>taxes 0% of people's wealth, because there isn't a govmt.
By no means. The Somalia is anarchic -- no govt able to prevent
enrichening of simple mob, the thugs and gangsters taking away
with a gun.
Marcin Krol
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Strange bootup message in RH 6.0
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:59:59 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>Mark Mykkanen wrote:
>>
>> Whenever I boot my system I get this error added to my /var/log/messages
>> and sometimes to my boot screen...I think it has to do with the loopback
>> device, but I don't know what I have configured wrong.
>>
>> Jul 27 00:10:42 shamu init: Entering runlevel: 3
>> Jul 27 00:10:45 shamu modprobe: can't locate module lo:0
>> Jul 27 00:10:45 shamu modprobe: can't locate module lo:1
>> Jul 27 00:10:45 shamu modprobe: can't locate module lo:2
>> ...
>> Jul 27 00:10:47 shamu modprobe: can't locate module lo:49
>> Jul 27 00:10:47 shamu network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
>>
>> Does anybody know how I can fix this problem?
>
>Tave a look in:
>
>/lib/modules/2.x.x/modules.dep
>
>Delete the line that refers to module 'lo.o'
>CJ
I have checked and it's not there. The errors happen when I do an
ifdown lo
ifup lo
It's not the ifconfig commands, but some route thing that brings this
on.
--
Robin Becker
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From: Norman Weathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Brand recommendation?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:18:50 -0500
Michael Perry wrote:
>
> On 29 Jul 1999 05:39:01 GMT, Collene Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm going to upgrade my old machine and put
> >Linux on it. Now, the question is -- do I have
> >to be careful about the processor I choose? What
> >about other hardware?
> >
> >Also, can any one recommend their favorite "brand"
> >of linux? Is one better than another and if so,
> >why?
> >
> >:-)
> >acp
> >----
> >
>
> I use RedHat Linux on a AMD K6 II 400 with great results. I also use it on
> a Dell Inspiron 7000 with great results. As far as what distribution to
> use; why not try a few of them? Cheapbytes sells them at a few dollars each
> copy.
>
> --
> Michael Perry - No one can give you wiser advice
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] .o O than yourself" -Cicero
> ' Gnome: at www.gnome.org
> "Happiness is a state of foot!"
>
>
Each distribution has its ups and downs...
If you are going to do nothing but Linux on the box, and you
haven't had any experience with Linux before, then you should
choose something like RedHat or Caldera. Why? Ease of install.
Newer distributions of Caldera's OpenLinux has a really good install
system. The install is completely graphical, it helps users who
have not ever install something like this before by prompting with
some well know ideas such as mountpoints, and it is able to do some
really nifty probing to find such things as video, sound, and ethernet
cards.
RedHat's install is a little more involved, but if you really want to
learn all about installing the OS, but still need a little help, this
is the way to go.
If you are a glutton for punishment and you really want to do things
the hard way, try something like Slackware.
Now, once you decide on how easy you want it to install, you need to
decide about servicability and available packages. RedHat has one
of the most useful tools called RPM, and many distro's use it, but
if you try to put an RPM really designed for RedHat's filesystem
hierarchy on a system like Caldera, it can cause some problems.
In my opinion, here is the way I would rank them if I were starting
a whole new installation on a clean machine with the reasons why:
1) RedHat - ease of use, average install, RPM's designed for it.
2) Caldera - easy install, average use, RPM's designed more for RedHat
may work with it. Great graphical way of doing things...
3) Suse - Alot of utilities and the like come with the CD, worth the
buy. Somewhat involved install, but comes with YAST, which
sometimes makes configurations a little bit easier.
4) Debian - Comes with Debian package installer (.deb). Not for sure
about its install system.
5) Slackware - Really into the guts of the system, by now.
Of course, these are just some of the "main" distro's. You also have
things from Mandrake, Ultra Penguin, Stampede, and others. The main
thing is, whichever one you choose, realize that you probably will
reach a point where you will have a problem. Don't be afraid to reach
for the manual, and if all else fails, don't be afraid to voice your
troubles at your local friendly news group.
Cheers,
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Norman Weathers
Technology Coordinator ETS
University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
phone: (501) 575-3553 or (501) 575-4344
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It's not that I 'prefer' to do this without an NT server.... I
just 'prefer' to do it where it will work..."
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From: Jared Hecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I tell RH sees a second CPU?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:59:27 GMT
Subject line says it all. I added a second PPro to a RH5.2 machine and
while I *think* it's faster I am looking for a utility that confirms Linux
sees it (I know RH6.0 deals with SMP better and am planning to upgrade).
xosview did not, nor did xsysinfo.
TIA -
Regards,
jh
--
Jared Hecker | HWA Inc. - Oracle architecture and Administration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ** serving NYC and New Jersey **
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.hacking,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Sidewinder Force Feedback Joystick
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:07:30 GMT
I'm trying to do some research on the Sidewinder Force Feedback Joystick
made by microsoft, but I'm taking the Linux route. I have been able to
activate the joystick and using it as a normal joystick on linux. I'm
currently developing a "hello world" application for it just to see if I
can do so. (If anyone has any helpful applications already made, I
would apprecitate them). But I was wondering if anyone has been able to
access the force feedback capabilities of the Sidewinder. I don't know
as of yet how to do so, but I'm working on it. I would really apprecite
any information about it. Thanks.
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