Linux-Misc Digest #353, Volume #18 Sat, 26 Dec 98 03:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Double sided printing ? (James Stafford)
HP Deskjet 697C -- Usable under Linux? (Equinox)
Printing problems with Epson Stylus Color 640 (Ramin Sina)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Steve Mading)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (John Winters)
Re: Library problem (Wilhelm Wienemann)
Re: Forgetting password (George Dau)
Re: boot/root disk (George Dau)
Re: ln: Musty smell to its man page (Steve Mading)
Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux (Melvin Toy)
Re: How can I boot with lost LILO (Eric Rupprecht)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (jeramy)
Re: KDE doesn't work => KFM not running/ not ready HELP!!! (James Gray)
Linux getright? (Peter Lee)
Re: Reasons for me to toss Linux (Destrius)
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Double sided printing ?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:56:21 -0800
Gary Momarison wrote:
> Pradeep Sagam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > How do I print on both sides of the paper. I use SuSE 5.3 and a HP
> > Laserjet 5si.
> > It used to be an lpr option on some UNIX flavors. But I don't find one
> > on mine.
This is the way I print on both sides. I tranalate all the files I want to
print into Post Script, use ghostview (or better yet get gv it automaticly
marks the pages) mark all the odd pages, print them, turn the pages over
and reinsert into printer, mark all the even pages, and print them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: HP Deskjet 697C -- Usable under Linux?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 05:30:02 GMT
Hi,
I received a Hewlett-Packard 697C printer as a Christmas gift. I am
wondering if this printer can be used with Linux. (HP's website is
absolutely useless, and the manuals that come with the printer are
even worse -- bloody kindergarten readers, and they're all M$-this and
M$-that... they don't even mention HP's own HP-UX operating system!)
Any and all information about using this printer with Linux would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
--Equinox
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Email (spam-disabled):
lord *underscore* equinox *at* mindspring *dot* com
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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Printing problems with Epson Stylus Color 640
Date: 25 Dec 1998 21:36:08 PST
Hi all and happy holidays,
I give the following commnad to print a postscript file on my suse 5.2
gs -sDEVICE=uniprint test.ps
and I get the error below and no printout. Can someone tell me what am
I doing wrong ( I can print text files with lpr with no problem)
Thanks,
Ramin Sina
Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16)
Copyright (C) 1998 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights
reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.
Loading NimbusRomNo9L-Regu font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n021003l.pfb... 1984432 627152 1309076
26681 0 done.
Loading NimbusRomNo9L-Medi font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n021004l.pfb... 2024616 667193 1329168
32020 0 done.
Loading NimbusRomNo9L-ReguItal font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n021023l.pfb... 2064800 709214 1329168
33878 0 done.
Loading NimbusRomNo9L-MediItal font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n021024l.pfb... 2125076 753843 1329168
35752 0 done.
Loading NimbusMonL-Regu font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n022003l.pfb... 2165260 794450 1329168
37711 0 done.
Loading NimbusMonL-Bold font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n022004l.pfb... 2205444 838046 1329168
39578 0 done.
Loading NimbusMonL-ReguObli font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n022023l.pfb... 2245628 855932 1329168
37969 0 done.
Loading NimbusMonL-BoldObli font from
/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n022024l.pfb... 2285812 902508 1329168
40020 0 done.
CALL-REJECTED upd_print_page(0x824d8b4,0x82914a0)
Error: /undefined in --.outputpage--
Operand stack:
1 true
Execution stack:
%interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval--
--nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- 2 3
%oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1
%stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2
--nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2
%stopped_push --nostringval-- 0 3 %oparray_pop --nostringval--
--nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
--dict:915/941(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:65/200(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: 2
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Ramin Sina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 23:45:12 -0600
Rich Grise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Steve Mading wrote:
: [...]
: >and 2 - I don't want a $PATH
: > variable that's over 1000 letters long because of all the /opt/yadda
: > directories in it.
: Howcome you're strewing your executables all over your drive such
: that you need a PATH that's that long?
: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:.
: what else do you need?
Try reading more than one post when you start looking at a new thread.
Your suggestion is precisely what I was in favor of. I was arguing
*against* the each-program-in-its-own-dir model.
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Steve Mading: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~madings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Winters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 25 Dec 1998 22:56:51 -0000
In article <760rdq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>Which programs in the sbin directories would "normal" users want
>in their path?
traceroute can be very useful.
John
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John Winters. Wallingford, Oxon, England.
The Linux Emporium - a source for Linux CDs in the UK
See <http://www.polo.demon.co.uk/emporium.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Wienemann)
Subject: Re: Library problem
Date: 26 Dec 1998 01:11:21 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Wienemann)
Merzinger Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> informed
comp.os.linux.misc with the following:
> I�m Using Suse Linux 5.3 and have the following problem while trying to
> install new SW like
>
> - Netscape 4.5
> - StarOffice 6.0
> - ....
>
> I get the following Error-Msg:
>
> /opt/netscape/netscape: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/i486-linux-libc6/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _dl_debug_impcalls
Did you upgrade to glibc-2 and besides of that to a current version
of the Linux Loader ld.so ?
bye - Wilhelm
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"And since you are the future keepers of everything, including music, we
hope you will keep it well, with love, and in joy." (Frederick Fennell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Dau)
Subject: Re: Forgetting password
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 06:21:00 GMT
"Chris Severn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]I try lots of other directories and different executables and find that I
]can't execute any program in the mounted hard drive.
Why not? What error do you get?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Dau)
Subject: Re: boot/root disk
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 06:25:34 GMT
rks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
]Hi all,
]
]I am trying to make a boot/root disk without a compressed
]rootfilesystem.
]The problem is that I get the prompt "�nsert root disk". I want just
]one disk with kernel and rootsystem. Does anyone know how to do this?
]
]Thanks!
That is definitely covered in the HOW-TO document. It's part of the flags you
set in the kernel on the floppy - see the bit in the HOW-TO about calculating
the offset of the root file system and setting the flags with rdev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ln: Musty smell to its man page
Date: 26 Dec 1998 00:26:04 -0600
Navindra Umanee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: <test>
: [asimov] [/tmp] ls -al test
: ---------- 1 root root 5 Dec 24 18:56 test
: [asimov] [/tmp] whoami
: navindra
: [asimov] [/tmp] ln test haha
: [asimov] [/tmp] ls -al haha
: ---------- 2 root root 5 Dec 24 18:56 haha
: </test>
: No read permission there.
: As has been mentioned, a potential solution is to allow only the owner
: of the file to create a hardlink, the exception being root. This may
: break certain programs.
Try the same thing on a file you don't own. I have seen some programs
let you do stuff you should not be able to on files if you own them.
--
Steve Mading: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~madings
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From: Melvin Toy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 06:38:32 GMT
What sensible Unix System Administrator would partition the entire drive as
root! I'm a Solaris and Windows NT administrator at a university. The only
people I have met who partition their entire drive as root are people from a
Windows enviroment. We had one windows guy who did that with our mail server
using Linux! You guess what happen when everyone left their mail on the
server.
If you're going to talk about popularity in the commerce world, it is Solaris
not HP. Our admin instructors teach Solaris because according to them, it's
used the most in the commercial world.
I'm still a newbie to Linux but I though Red Hat support Alphas and Suns which
are 64 bit buses and scsi.
I really wish the Unix community would quit bickering among themselves on who
Unix is the best! We need to united as one family. Because we haven't,
Microsoft has made in road w/ their bloated, buggy software. If anyone has
taken a course OS design, they would realize that every design has it strengths
and weakness. It depends on what you needed the makes one OS better than
another!
Melvin
Ilya wrote:
> OK, I feel cold and need flames to warm me up. I want to list the reasons
> why I prefer HP-UX over Linux.
>
> The main reason is the Mirror-UX utility available as an extension of the
> LVM program. The standard LVM allows one to manage disks and logical
> volumes very easily, but Mirror-UX let's one mirror disks. Have 2 disks in
> the volume group, mirrored, one crashes and you don't even notice it. If
> that is not impressive, I don't know what is. Make them both bootable. I
> don't know anything about Linux but from what I heard an analogous program
> that does not exist. Under Linux, the hard drive crashes, and you lose all
> your data unless it is backed up.
>
> LVM, even without optional mirroring, makes filesystem management piece of
> cake. If you want to decrease or increase a logical volume such as /usr,
> /opt, /var/, /stand, /tmp/, /var/adm/crash, just bring the box to single
> user mode, unmount it, run lvextend or lvreduce and and boot back up to
> multi. There is even a way to do it in multi-user mode. How does one do
> that in Linux? Well, one can't, since everything is under "/". Fill up
> your /tmp and everything fills up. To decrease a logical volume, one has to
> rebuild the machine.
>
> Software management with SD-UX. swlist, swremove. Patches. I am not aware
> of a Linux program that does software management as well.
>
> Books. HPUX has dozens and dozens of support books. Every man page is also
> available via hard copy, I found that very useful when dealing with
> problematic systems in single-user mode that don't have man pages
> available. There are many books that go in depth about Unix subjects on
> the HPUX platform, unlike very entry-level Linux books I see at book
> stores. HPUX books like
>
> HPUX System Administrator Tasks - very useful
> Configuring HPUX for Peripherals
> Installing HPUX and upgrading from HP-UX 10.0x to 10.20
> HP 700/96 and HP 700/96ES HP 700/98 and HP 700/98ES
> High Availability Storage Systems
> Managing MC/Service Guard (BTW, heard of MC/Service Guard for Linux?)
> Installing and Administering NFS Services
> Installing HPUX 11.0 and Updating HPUX 10.x to 11.0
>
> The list goes on and on and on. These are very good manuals that make
> Linux books I see look like 5-th grade learning materials. The material is
> available on a CDROM (LROM).
>
> Hardware. HPUX machines are all SCSI. Most Linux machines are not, and do
> not make as stable servers as all-SCSI machines. The bargains people see in
> Walmart and the Computer Shopper are good deals, but not necessarily the
> best machines available. These 300-400Mhz machines might have the listed
> CPU speed, but the BUS is typically a lot slower, and that is the
> bottleneck. I heard an estimate that a 300Mhz PC is equal to a 100Mhz HPUX
> server in terms of overall speed. The HPUX workstations I have seen are so
> stable. I keep them up for months. The only reason mine crashed recently
> was because I accidently stepped on the power cord under the desk and
> unplugged it. HPUX (and Sun, and DEC) has better hardware, much better
> kick-ass monitors compared to any PC ones I have seen.
>
> HPUX is popular. So many data centers around the country have powerful
> servers running it, if you know HPUX, you will always have a job, more jobs
> than you can handle. I don't think this statement applies to Linux.
>
> What else. HPUX 10.20 is Y2K compliant with patches. 11.0 is a 64 bit
> operating system. Does Linux have a 64 bit OS? Is Lunix Y2K compliant? How
> do you know? Is it officially certified as being compliant?
>
> I might give Linux a try when it evolves to the level I am comfortable
> with. I like the idea of freeware and non-proprietary hardware, but at this
> time I do not feel it is in my best interest to invest in the Linux
> platform. Feel to free to convince me otherwise. Linux is good for what it
> does: A learning platform, a way to get started. I think HPUX and Solaris
> both exceed it in every way except for price.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Rupprecht)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,no.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How can I boot with lost LILO
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 06:40:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:37:17 +0200, Patrik Seffel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>Hi Linux lovers
>
>I have a perfectly working RedHat 5.0 partition, but my problem is that
>I have
>lost my LILO boot manager so I can't log in to the Linux partition and
>reinstall
>the LILO.
>I don't have a bootdisk, since I never bothered to create one. But I
>borrowed
>one from a friend and tried. It started to boot but crashed during
>bootup because
>it couldn't mount root filesystem.
>
>My question is
>Can I boot from the installation disk which came with the RedHat 5.0
>package.
>There is a secure-mode there, which I don't know if a could use.
>I'm affraid of destroying the Linux partition, which is very nice now. I
>only
>want to get in to the partion again, what should I do?
>I want my LILO back, please help me.
>
>Regards Patrik
YUP.... If you havn't yet, rig up a Boot-root floppy..or what
about autoboot from the CD-ROM???. I'm speaking
mostly from Slackware experience where one usually
creates at least one boot floppy. This Boot diskkette
provides a prompt very quickly from which you can
load up the mount command....in my case I run LINUX
from an extended partition on a second drive
The command is mount root=/dev/hdb3.
OR...go through a basic installation, and negate everthing
until you get to the LILO installation part and reinstall it.
LINUX setup will only push you to repartion and reformat
if it dosn't see any type 82/83 partitions.
Eric
>
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From: jeramy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 00:55:21 -0600
>
> Perhaps I should explain how I formed the view
> then. I'm using LinuxPPC on a Mac. Initially, I
> was using the single-buttoned mouse, and while
> it emulates a three-buttoned mouse, copying and
> pasting that way was a pain. So I was forced to
> do it other ways. It was those 'other ways' that
> seemed to differ from program to program.
>
> But the copy and paste thing was a single issue
> among many. If I were a new user, I'd expect some
> consistency in other things as well, such as reading
> a file, saving, etc. AFAICS (and my experience is
> somewhat limited, I admit) this stuff all seems to
> differ from program to program.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOh...a fellow LinuxPPC user. how bout that. IBM does not like people
like us. There was a quote the other day from them that said AIX is for
turn-key useres while Linux is for tinkerers. Ive used AIX and I would
have to say that there view is skewed a bit.
Anyways X should work much better when R5 of LinuxPPC comes out. Debian
may already be fine.
Also, Kensington mice work nicley with R4. I copy and paste perfectly in
Enlightenment, KDE, Netscape, and other apps/managers. I also have a
fourth mouse button I havent decided what to do with yet.
Cheers.
Jeramy B Smith
Student: Christian Brothers University
Part-Time Flunkie: iXL Hostings Memphis
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From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,nl.comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: KDE doesn't work => KFM not running/ not ready HELP!!!
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:49:40 +0930
Not sure how correct this is but I set a symbolic link to libc.so.6 and
called it libc.so.5...( [root@host lib]#ln -s libc.so.6 libc.so.5) KDE
and everthing else runs fine. (??) Was this the right/wrong thing to
do?? I couldn't find the KDE version you speak of.
Cheers,
James
TOLEE wrote:
> It seems your kde using libc5, and Redhat using libc6. You should go to
> download the kde using libc6.
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From: Peter Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux getright?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 07:20:41 +0000
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Is there a Getright(win95/98) type of utility for Linux???
Thanks
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Destrius)
Subject: Re: Reasons for me to toss Linux
Date: 26 Dec 1998 07:37:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...and it was written on the heavens that on Fri, 25 Dec 1998 01:26:37 +0000,
the entity named Mike ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
inscribed the following words in comp.os.linux.misc:
-clip-
>Its ALT-F1 to ALT-F6 for the standard virtual consoles. ALT-F7 is the
>first virtual terminal for X. If you are in X and you want to switch to
>a virtual console, you have to use CTRL-ALT-F1 to CTRL-ALT-F6.
-clip-
A small question here. How do you get switchto to work in X? I'd like to
switch to my consoles via a button or something on the screen, since I
mainly use the mouse in X instead of the keyboard. TIA...
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