Linux-Misc Digest #374, Volume #21               Thu, 12 Aug 99 11:13:19 EDT

Contents:
  syslog.conf -> receive network messages ... ("toxo")
  Re: getting winmodem to work (Carl Fink)
  Re: Linux Y2K bios issue (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: USB port supported in LINUX ? (Dennis)
  mutt and SMTP server (Charles M)
  Re: What is Applixware? (Tom Shannon)
  Re: telnet question ("Andy Coy")
  Shutdown Problem ("Ed Haack")
  print counter (Ben Cecil)
  Re: Japanese writiong under English Linux? (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  tar backup and strange messages (Tobias Galitzien)
  io-performance measuring (Sven Huster)
  Problem with gpm/X and ATI framebuffer ("Cedric Blancher")
  Re: Swap problems (Steve Gage)
  Re: Swap problems (Jon Skeet)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Ottavio G. Rizzo)
  Free linux web-timesheet/expense reporting software beta of 2.3 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: CIA assassinations (Marco Anglesio)
  CD-Recorder ("James A Grand-Scrutton")
  MS Proxy server req NTLM auth: MSWSP for Linux? ("Johan Hartzenberg")
  Re: Linux+NT4+win98 ("Ed Haack")
  Re: mutt and SMTP server (Nick C.)
  Re: Pentiume III serial number (Ryan Windley)
  Re: Novice: general query/crib (Leonard Evens)
  Re: route problem: Can't add gateway address (Ming Au)
  Re: What I think of linux. (benjamin j snyder)
  Re: Novice: general query/crib (Kari Pahula)
  Re: telnet question (Steven Harrison)

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From: "toxo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: syslog.conf -> receive network messages ...
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:48:26 +0200

Hi,

i am trying to configure a linuxbox to listen to messages from a network
device ( eg. another linuxbox),like a logging host. i start the syslogd on
the logging host with the -r option, so that it is able to receive messages
over a network.

on the logging host i wrote something like this in the syslog.conf:

linuxbox-b.*        /var/log/linuxbox-a.log

on the network device ( the second linux-box )i wrote this in the
syslog.conf:

kern.*            @linuxbox-a

both linux-boxes know each other throu the hosts-file.

teh problem is that i dont see anything getting logged by the logging host.
the same if i use a network device ( SHIVA (Intel) LanRover RemoteAccessBox)
which is able to log to somewhere else. On the LanRover i could configure
the following: log-typ: local0-7 (i used local 7) and typed the ip-adress of
the logging host. on the logging host i tried the following lines:

local7.*                        /var/log/ras01.log
192.168.100.100.*    /var/log/ras02.log
ras-box.*                    /var/log/ras03.log

but with no success.

does anybody ever treid to build a logging host??? can somebody give me some
hints. i read the man-page but there is no example for a logging host.

toxicwaste








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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: getting winmodem to work
Date: 12 Aug 1999 11:01:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:53:17 GMT Andrew Neiderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Would it be possible to somehow have NT dial and
>connect to my ISP and then have Linux use that 
>connection.

Not if it's a WinModem -- the Windows driver does more than dial, it
actually makes your CPU act as a digital signal processor and
translate the acoustic signals into a digital one.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
        -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Linux Y2K bios issue
Date: 12 Aug 1999 10:54:06 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Heffernan) 
writes:

>I understand that the Linux OS is not susceptible to Y2K issues (it
>has a 2038 issue).  I have also read that some of the old beater PCs
>we home users run Linux on can simply fail to boot because of bios
>issues.

When my previous machine was young, and not apparently suffering
hardware failure, it was one of the higher spec machines around. It
was a 486DX2/50 with VLB, becasue PCI new and attracted a permium
price, with 8MBb of memory and a 200Mb hard disc. SLS was polular on
about 20 discs, 0.99pl13h had exciting new features and a.out ruled
the land (ELF had not even been mooted). Assuming your hardware is a
little newer than that it should work. (The lower end was 386SX25s
with 2-4Mb of memory and people had X performance problems using them).

>What I don't understand is whether the failures depend on the
>bios passing faulty info to the OS or whether the failure can occur
>prior to that.

Everything the BIOS says can be overriden using parameters at boot
time (append="<...>" in lilo.conf, or its equivilent.

>If the later, then some Linux machines would
>presumably fail to boot when the clock ticks over.  In the DOS world
>we  can load generic TSRs that fix the bios.  Is there anything
>similar for Linux?  Are there reasons this is a non-issue?

The kernel has a pivot value nad has had for a long time that makes
this a non-issue---the theory is the same as the ones the TSRs use.
Naturally TSRs and their ilk will never work on Linux.
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: USB port supported in LINUX ?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:22:11 -0400

My understanding is that the next kernel (2.4) will fully support USB
and PnP.  Don't know when it is due out.


Dennis,


Nicholas Bernstein wrote:
> 
> I know that USB is supported in the current version of linuxppc. You may
> want to check/take a look at their stuff, and see if you can port it if
> nothing else is available.
> http://www.linuxppc.org
> -Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Vincent DECOUX wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've got a Dell PC with several devices and I'd like to upgrade to
> > Linux.
> > The problem is I'm using USB devices (an ISDN modem, and a sound card).
> > Are they supported in Linux ?
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> > Vincent Decoux
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: mutt and SMTP server
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:52:31 -0500

I've seen a number of posts praising mutt. I've been using pine, but 
wanted to try mutt. For the most part, I like it, but how do 
you set mutt up for your mail server to send mail? Right now, it doesn't 
work. In pine, there is a setting for your SMTP server in the pinerc 
file. I did not see any such parameters for the muttrc file. Or, since 
I've never done anything with setting up sendmail - do I need to set that 
up in some way for mutt to work? Thanks.


CMM

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Shannon)
Subject: Re: What is Applixware?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:48:17 -04-59

On 11 Aug 1999 20:03:51 -0400, John Forkosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Leonard Evens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: > I just installed Red hat 6.0 and I need to know if Applixware
>: > comes w/RH6.0 applications CD and/or where can I Download it?
>
>: If you get the official RH6.0 release, it comes with an application
>: disk that has a demo version. You have to pay for the real version.
>: You can find out more about it by looking at www.applix.com
>
>: If you want a free Office type product, consider Star Office.

>I've never used either, but am frequently forced to use MS Word
>by clients that have standardized on it...which is pretty much
>everybody.  I haven't found time to check out Applixware and
>StarOffice, to see which provides the better MS Word work-alike,
>and the better import/export to Word format.  If I were really
>happy with one, I could spend more time under Linux, while
>simultaneously keeping clients happy.
>
>Anybody care to follow up with real world experiences?

I have experience with both, most recently with Star Office.  Both
have pretty good import/export capabilities for Word.  I had the
feeling that Star Office was the better choice, especially for
spreadsheet (Excel) work.  But I bought Applix about 3 years ago and
it may have come a long way since then.  At the time, I wasn't
completely happy with it.  Not enough shortcut keys.

The solution I finally settled on was the real Word and Excel running with
vmware.  This works well as lond as you don't have to go to really
heavy loads where the vmware performance hit becomes more evident.
This is more likely to happen with very big spreadsheets or documents
with very heavy graphics, say 7 or 8 large figures (half to full page).

Tom

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From: "Andy Coy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: telnet question
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:56:29 +0100

Have you tried to FTP into the machine, then do a "get"

--
Andy Coy
Cablecom Investments Ltd
me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hello
>
> Is there a way to transfer files from a computer i've telnetted to, to
> my own computer ?
>
> eg. if i telnetted to server abc.com, is there a way to copy files
> directly from that computer (ie. abc.com) to my computer (ie localhost)?
>
> thanx (in advance)
> ali ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>



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From: "Ed Haack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shutdown Problem
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:59:07 -0400

I begun to have a problem with my RH 6.0 system.  When I issue the logout
command via GNOME, nothing happens.  I have to hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to
reboot and the processes is sooooooooooooooo slow after I login (as root).
Any ideas what might be causing this strange behavior?  Thanks.

Ed Haack



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From: Ben Cecil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: print counter
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:04:32 +1000

Hi there,

Can anyone tell me if there is any way I can get Redhat linux to keep a
running count of the number of print jobs that go to my printer.

Ben

--
==========> WIDGET Solutions
======> www.widgetsolutions.com.au
--> Graphic Design  * Hardware  * Software



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: Japanese writiong under English Linux?
Date: 12 Aug 1999 12:19:49 GMT

Martin Schreck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>High there, anybody out there who knows a good program to write Japanese on
>an English Linux?

For many free software programs there are patches to deal with Japanese; you
might want to check out the Debian-JP project (http://www.debian.or.jp/) for
pointers.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
UNFAIR  Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried 
to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS.     
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan  

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From: Tobias Galitzien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tar backup and strange messages
Date: 12 Aug 1999 12:13:15 GMT

Hello!

I've been setting up a script to do backups with GNU tar 1.12.

I do a full backup once a week and incremental backups the rest of the days.
I do a verify (with tar d) after the full backup and it fails with lots of
output consisting only of "././@LongLink". However, it seems to backup all
the stuff correctly.

What does this "././@LongLink" mean? I've checked it, there are no links at
all in the filesystem I backup, neither hard nor soft ones.

Is it possible that a verify is not possible when I do an incemental backup
although I do a verify only after the weekly full backup?

Any hints appreciated

-- 
Tobias Galitzien        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Channel.One GmbH        http://www.channel-one.de

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From: Sven Huster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: io-performance measuring
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:32:22 +0200

hi there,

i try to setup a new server and ask my:

is it possible to see that a disk is overloaded, so load should be
shared on multiple?

thanks
sven



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From: "Cedric Blancher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with gpm/X and ATI framebuffer
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:32:34 +0200

Hi !

Got 2 problems :

. I have a PS/2 mouse and it doesn't work under X. I've launched gpm
with repeater option (-R) and set mouse to PS/2 type and /dev/gpmdata in
/etc/X11/XF86config. It still doesn't work... My mouse is a Logitech
Wheel Mouse. Where am I wrong ?

. I built my kernel with ATI framebuffer support. I can change
resolution to whatever I want with vga= parameter (I use 0x305), but I
didn't find the way to change the number of lines and rows : atyfb is
always launched in 80x30 mode. An idea ?

Thanks :)



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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swap problems
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:13:39 GMT

Jon Skeet wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I just installed a new drive, put RH 6.0 on /dev/hdb1. I have
> > you-know-what on /dev/hda1. I have a small /dev/hda5 that I want to use
> > for a swap partition. I used fdisk, marked it with the "82" swap
> > partition signature, but swapon won't use it: "invalid argument". What
> > can I do to make it work? I'd like to have my swap on the other physical
> > disk from my Linux...
>
> Have you run mkswap on the partition?

Duh, no. :-\

Thanks Jon, all is well now.

- Steve


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Swap problems
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:38:05 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> I just installed a new drive, put RH 6.0 on /dev/hdb1. I have
> you-know-what on /dev/hda1. I have a small /dev/hda5 that I want to use
> for a swap partition. I used fdisk, marked it with the "82" swap
> partition signature, but swapon won't use it: "invalid argument". What
> can I do to make it work? I'd like to have my swap on the other physical
> disk from my Linux...

Have you run mkswap on the partition?

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ottavio G. Rizzo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 12 Aug 1999 15:42:07 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK) writes:

> On 12 Aug 1999 10:03:45 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ottavio G.
> Rizzo) wrote:
> 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> >
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Ottavio G. Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >What makes you think that a private company won't have an evil
> >> >inefficient burocracy?
> >> 
> >> If they do, they will lose to a more efficient company.
> >
> >That supposes a perfect market economy (or perfect and infinitely
> >efficient regulatory bodies).
> 
> No, it does not require perfect market economy -- finite time before
> they lose is required condition. The more competitive and the closer
> to perfection market is, the faster they lose, the less competitive
> and the more far away from perfection market is, the longer it takes
> before they lose. In perfect market economy, they'd lose instantly.

So it's OK to have a completely senseless government since sooner or
later there will be a revolution?

-- 
Ottavio Rizzo                   IRMAR, Campus de Beaulieu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     Universit� de Rennes 1
T�l +33 (0)2 99 28 67 92        35042 RENNES cedex
Fax +33 (0)2 99 28 67 90        FRANCE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Free linux web-timesheet/expense reporting software beta of 2.3
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:49:34 GMT

Free for 5 users or less, web-based time, expense, and project tracking
including journalling (diaries) at http://journyx.com

The beta is at ftp://ftp.jump.net/pub/journyx/2.3beta2 for aix, 2
flavors of linux and
NT(ick)

--
Install nothing.  Pay nothing.  Track your time today at
http://freetimesheet.com


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:58:16 GMT

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:00:08 GMT, MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As I have heard, American doctors managed to create much of monopoly
>for them. Otherwise they would not be able to boost their wages to so
>insane levels. It _has_ to result in huge costs, obviously. The reason

Most medical professions in most nations have a monopoly (or
near-monopoly) on medical services, for the very good reason that it's a
profession which takes considerable training and expertise (and for which
there is a considerable liability burden). Same with, say, engineers. So
you're looking at the same situation in the both the UK and the US.

The main difference is that doctors have been able to charge what they
want in the US, inflating their wages, while many UK doctors are either
direct or indirect employees of the National Health Service or some other
government-funded operation. (Canada charts a middle road, where most
doctors get paid for service but the fee for that service is set by the
government, so they're indirectly government employees). This helps keep
fees down.

>to be nicer. If it wants to, it is nicer. The problem with American
>system seems to be that it is legally overregulated. I don't argue for
>overregulation: I argue for as minimal regulations as possible. If

Well, you *have* roughly equivalent regulations in both cases. What you
don't have is a situation leading to massive wage inflation in the UK,
since there is no real room for bidding wars. 

Consider the wage growth of, say, professional athletes: what pushes wages
up (and much more so for the stars than for the average athlete, but even
the average athlete makes excellent money) is competition for their
services. When the government (or a single industry, or a cartel, as
professional sports were until quite recently) is the only game in town,
salary competition isn't quite as good as when you have several for-profit
ventures competing for the same labour market. 

That the breadth of the medical field is expanding has merely induced a
perpetual labour shortage. (One that seems to be ending in major markets,
with HMO's driving physician's fees downwards, but that's quite recent and
none too soon).

What's caused wage inflation is a surfeit of competition, not a lack, in a
tight labour market. You're barking up the wrong tree.

marco

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>         Marco Anglesio         |     One of me stayed on the ground,     <
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED]        |      without provisions or hope or      <
>  http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa  |   sight or legs, and refused to leave.  <
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From: "James A Grand-Scrutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD-Recorder
Date: 12 Aug 1999 13:15:18 GMT

I have a Mitsumi CD-Recorder, is there software avalible to enable meto
create CD's using Linux

James

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From: "Johan Hartzenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Proxy server req NTLM auth: MSWSP for Linux?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:02:08 +0200

Hi.

I've got my linux machine on a lan that access the internet via a proxy
server running MS Proxy Server on NT.  The Proxy server is configured to
require Authentication against the NT domain.

For non-MS Internet Explorer clients, this happen through MS Winsock Proxy
Client.  Does this exist for linux?

Has anybody tried to run mswspclnt under WINE?

  _Johan



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From: "Ed Haack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+NT4+win98
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:46:32 -0400

I have just this setup on my maching.  I suggest getting partion magic 4.0.
Then:

1.  Install Win98 first.
2.  Use Partion Magic to move this partion such that there is < 4 gb of
unpartioned free space before it.
3.  Install Boot Magic that comes with Partion Magic.
4.  Install NT 4.0 in the unpartioned free space.  Format as FAT or NTFS.  I
suggest FAT.
5.  When you get to the part of the NT setup where it reboots the machine,
select WIN98 from the Boot Magic menu.
6.  Go into the Boot Magic configuration and add the NT partition.  Boot
Magic should recognize it.
7.  Reboot and select NT from the Boot Magic menu.  NT setup will continue.
8.  After NT is installed, you can install Linux in the remaining
unpartioned free space.

You will now have three OSes in three separate partitions.

Ed Haack

Pierre Arnaud wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>liang wrote:
>
>> I just got a new hardrive(13.6GB) and I want to install all
>> three OSes available to me.  Any suggestions about the
>> partition, installation order etc?
>> such as: which way is better, use PartitionMagic or fdisk
>> or fips of Linux to partition the drive?
>>
>> thanks.
>
>One detail that is implied in Pirana Selvanandan's reply, but not stated
>clearly : NT can only boot from the NT loader in the mbr. Step 1 to 5 in
>this mail are meant to use NT loader to start Linux. Since you want
>win98 too, you'll have to use the NT loader to all three systems. Be
>very careful never to touch the mbr. It can be very tricky --sometimes
>impossible-- to recover an NT system.
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick C.)
Subject: Re: mutt and SMTP server
Date: 12 Aug 1999 13:05:25 GMT

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:52:31 -0500, Charles M wrote:
>I've seen a number of posts praising mutt. I've been using pine, but 
>wanted to try mutt. For the most part, I like it, but how do 
>you set mutt up for your mail server to send mail? Right now, it doesn't 
>work. In pine, there is a setting for your SMTP server in the pinerc 
>file. I did not see any such parameters for the muttrc file. Or, since 
>I've never done anything with setting up sendmail - do I need to set that 
>up in some way for mutt to work? Thanks.

In ~/.muttrc:

set hostname=foo.bar.com

You shouldn't need this option if you have sendmail configured correctly,
which you should do even on a standalone box.

HTH,
-- 
Nick C. - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | E-mail address contains a spamblock
"Stupidity should be painful."            | Remove IFRICKINHATESPAM to e-mail
-Anton Szandor LaVey                      | [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the bots

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From: Ryan Windley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentiume III serial number
Date: 12 Aug 1999 13:15:03 GMT

Y. MOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You may be able to disable it in the bios.  I know that's how I did it on
my p3.  If you do that you should have no worry about the S/N ever again.

: Sorry if this question has been asked/answered before, but I don't
: find it in the FAQ.  As I understand, each P III has a unique
: serial number that can be obtained by a remote web site, which 
: raises concern on privacy.  How does this affect Linux users, or
: is this a problem affecting only Windoze/whatever ?

: -------------------------------------------------------
: DISCLAIMER:  I don't even speak for myself, what makes 
:              you think I speak for anyone else ?

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novice: general query/crib
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 06:54:49 -0500

S Ghosh wrote:
> 
> Well, let me tell you at the outset that since i am fairly new to the
> Linux/comp world, you'll have to forgive and ignore this post if it seems
> too naive..!
> 
> I am an avid user of one of the most visible and useful benefits of the
> internet : e-mail. Its helped me in keeping track of all my friends and
> acquintances, and its been equally helpful in furthering my prospects of
> Higher education.
> But one slight crib that remains with me is that since people will be people
> and never reply in time, its irritating and frustrating to wait patiently
> for replies that are very important to me, and never seem to come in time.
> Can't one program such a facility into the e-mail services to check whether
> a mail has been atleast read (something like letters with acknowledgement
> slips)? Something like a daemon in a unix mail server, which verifies whther
> a mail sent into it is still spooled as unread, or read, or has it been
> deleted?
> 
> Forgive my suggestion if  the obstacle sems obvious, or the sugestion seems
> too naive!!
> 
> Thanks

In principle you can do this for mail sent to Unix systems with
the finger command, e.g.,
finger user@site
should give you that information.   But finger is subject to
so many security problems that most sites disable it.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:58:37 +0200
From: Ming Au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: route problem: Can't add gateway address

Youjip Won wrote:
> 
> To make long story short, I cannot add gateway to routing table.
> 

(snip!)

> [root@sobaek network-scripts]# route add gw 166.104.88.1
> [root@sobaek network-scripts]# route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> Iface
> 127.0.0.0       *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> lo
> 166.104.88.0    *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> eth0
> ===> Goes to infinite loop

The command 'route' tries very hard to resolve IP addresses. If you
aren't connected to a name server that can resolve that particular IP
address for you, route will loop for a while. To verify your newly added
gw, you can try:

$ route -n

... which will show numeric values instead of symbolic names.


Regards,

Ming
--
 Ming Au, student of Computer Science at TU Delft

 linux 2.2.10 i686@350/128M, reincarnation #2 since 24/7 activation
  3:56pm  up 10 days, 17:36,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (benjamin j snyder)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: 12 Aug 1999 14:42:47 GMT


as far as the folks mentioning age/experience...
23...first computer was Commodore-64 (my brother and I actually wore the power
supplies out on about 4 of those).  We had the 1541 drive and a Star dot-matrix
printer.  My mom just retired from teaching high school and until about the
last 2 or 3 years of teaching, she used the Commodore to type tests.  I got 
that computer a loooooooooong time ago - dont really remember not having it.

Experience outside there goes to Apple IIe, then 8086, then 286 and progressing
to the P-II on my desk today.

Remember when a 40MB hdd was ABSOLUTELY FRIGGIN HUGE!?!?!?  How about 4MB RAM?
We'll never use all of that!
-- 
Ben Snyder                              

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From: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novice: general query/crib
Date: 12 Aug 1999 13:45:11 GMT

S Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can't one program such a facility into the e-mail services to check whether
>a mail has been atleast read (something like letters with acknowledgement
>slips)? Something like a daemon in a unix mail server, which verifies whther
>a mail sent into it is still spooled as unread, or read, or has it been
>deleted?

man finger

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From: Steven Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: telnet question
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:35:53 -0700


If you have it installed, try scp.

On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, me wrote:

>hello
>
>Is there a way to transfer files from a computer i've telnetted to, to
>my own computer ?
>
>eg. if i telnetted to server abc.com, is there a way to copy files
>directly from that computer (ie. abc.com) to my computer (ie localhost)?
>
>thanx (in advance)
>ali ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>

-- 
Steven Harrison
Network Services Engineering
Verio, Bellevue.


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