Linux-Misc Digest #449, Volume #21 Wed, 18 Aug 99 13:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Doug DeJulio)
Re: Blank Screensaver in Gnome? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Local printing using ansi emulation ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: [?]mount image without device (William Burrow)
Re: broken X Font server - can no longer boot up (root)
Re: Linux on Windows 95 or Windows NT? (McCabe Dansteds)
Re: Local printing using ansi emulation (Americo Kerr)
Re: ppp compression missing (root)
Prob running SCO binaries on RH 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help w/ sound card (Nicholas Pappas)
Re: ppp compression missing ("Richard L. Rutledge")
Re: Help edit xterm termcap, please ("T.E.Dickey")
Diskette Longevity ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
eth0 failing for Eiger Labs card..help (Avijit Purkayastha)
Re: Diskette Longevity ("Lt. Brandon Szalai, USNR")
RE: Caldera -> RH? (Chris Morton)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 18 Aug 1999 10:30:25 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rory C-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My queries:
>
>1) Prior to GNU, didn't the MIT lab and similar groups have
> or make its own operating system?
I'm pretty sure the answer is "several".
>3) Why did RMS work on Emacs and GCC before the GNU operating
> system - presumably he was developing for Unix? A related
> question: Did Linus Torvalds first develop Linux using Unix?
*How* could RMS work on the GNU operating system without an editor and
a compiler? What editor and compiler would he use? If they were not
free, wouldn't the resulting system be tied to assumptions relating to
the OS they were deployed on, since those assumptions would invariably
be built into the editor/compiler?
By picking an OS that has as its central philosophy "a bunch of small
tools that you string together", and starting by making free versions
of those small tools one piece at a time, it was possible to slowly
move towards having a complete free system. The fact that Unix was
available for multiple hardware platforms, and was fairly standardized
(C compiler, BSD and/or SysV system calls, etc) means it was more open
than many of the other possible choices (I don't think anyone would
dispute that Unix was more free than VMS or VM/CMS back then).
At each step of this process we had a complete system to use, and that
system gradually became more and more free. I was using GNU tools on
Sun, IBM and DEC hardware in the mid-80s, and I was grateful for them.
I *still* use a very GNU-ish environment on Solaris, SCO, AIX, and
other Unix operating systems.
Once there was a free kernel available, the last piece could be
snapped in. The FSF expected that kernel to be HURD, but this step
actually occured when the Linux kernel came out. A lot of the work
since then has been polish, refinement, productization, etc.
>4) Was the Incompatible Timesharing System (ITS) a sort of oper-
> ating system?
Oh, yes. I had an account on the last ITS machine. It ran on a
DEC-10, I believe.
>5) Is the GNU Hurd operating system now 'viable'? Why did it take
> so long to produce?
It's making progress. It's not "ready for prime time" yet. Why did
it take so long? Probably because it's not the top priority for many
folks, for reasons outlined above. Also, with Linux available, you
can get a complete system without it (further lowering its priority
for some folks).
>6) What is the difference between GNU and the FSF?
GNU = the OS named "GNU's Not Unix"
FSF = "The Free Software Foundation"
One is an operating system, the other is an organization. The FSF had
the goal of producing the GNU operating system.
You might call GNU an "operating environment" rather than an operating
system.
Compare with Windows 98. Under the hood, the lowest level kernel is
really quite DOS-like. But on top of it, there are all these more
advanced services, libraries, threading mechanisms, and even bundled
applications. When we call GNU an "OS" we're not referring to the
underlying kernel (the "DOS-like" part), but the total environment
(with all the goodies and apps).
So, folks who say "Windows 98 is not an OS, the OS is DOS" might also
say "GNU is not an OS, the OS is Linux/HURD/SunOS/IRIX". This last
view is popular partly for historical reasons. When folks started
with a SunOS box and gradually replaced all the components with GNU
components, they still tended to think of the underlying OS as the one
they started with -- even if the kernel was the only remaining
component, and everything else was GNU. A potentially interesting
distinction is that with SunOS, the SunOS component was the *first*
component, and with Linux, the Linux component was the *last*
component. This chronological distinction doesn't seem as obvious as
the question "what's the kernel?" to many people, so many people go by
kernel today (and thus call the OS "Linux").
Folks who say "DOS is just a component, the OS is Windows 98" might
say "the Linux Kernel is just a component, the OS is
GNU/RedHat/SuSE/Caldera". In this latter group, the only ones who
currently seem to have an active interest in promoting their point of
view are the GNU folks (witness RMS insisting, not always with perfect
tact, that people call it "GNU/Linux").
(My personal opinion on this one: just as GNU defined an OS that
included components not orignally part of GNU, like X11 and TeX and
the Linux kernel, some other folks can define an OS that includes many
components which *are* part of GNU, and that OS can be defined as
something other than GNU. So, take GNU (including the non-GNU X11,
TeX, etc), add in some other OS-specific components like a kernel and
"init" daemon, add in some distribution-specific components like
"YAST" or "rpm", and you've got a distinct OS such as "RedHat Linux"
or "SuSE Linux" that happens to contain GNU stuff, the same way GNU
contains X11 stuff. The name "Linux" then defines an OS standard in
almost the same way that "POSIX" does. I don't think my opinion on
this is a very popular one, but it lets me take the stance that both
Debian with their "GNU/Linux" system and other folks with their "just
plain Linux" systems are *all* actually completely and unambiguously
correct.)
>7) The development of the free source movement since GNU appears
> to have been helped by a standardisation on the C language,
> promoted by the GCC compiler. Is this assertion true,
> notwithstanding the developments since of Python, Perl etc.? Are
> there important stories connected to Fortran or Lisp or any other
> languages that I need to look at?
A standardized C language meant that the work that the FSF did could
be used by a much wider variety of people. It was easeier to get code
working on a wider variety of platforms. A natural consequence of
this would be that more people were interested in the work, and more
people helped out.
For example, *today* we can use GNU tools on a Windows system. So,
there are people interested in improving the GCC compiler toolchain so
they can use it to produce Windows programs. The improvements can
benefit everyone (one example might be better Pentium optimizations,
or MMX/3DNow support for inline assembler code).
--
Doug DeJulio | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank Screensaver in Gnome?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:11:23 GMT
Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>
:> Hi folks, I'm using RH6.0 with GNOME, how can I set in GNOME the screen saver
:> to let it turn into a blank screen when idle for a period of time? I couldn't
:> find such an option in the screen saver configure menu in GNOME, all that
:> I could see were those cheesy fancy stuff, but not the simple BLANK SCREEN"!
:> I could find it easily in KDE, but I want to use GNOME for the time being.
:> I've tracked xscreensaver to /usr/X11R6/shared/xscreensaver/, I've tried
:> editing the Screensaver file in my .gnome directory, but they just didn't
:> work! Please someone help, all I want is just a blank screen for screen
:> saver in xscreensaver/GNOME! Thanks in advance!
: I think `No screensaver', the first option, means a blank screensaver,
: but I am not sure.
Unfortunately it isn't, I tried that option but as the name suggests,I got
NO screen saver at all.
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local printing using ansi emulation
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:54:56 GMT
Americo Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm newbie to Linux (not to unix). I use the same version of SCO Unix
> (5.0.5) on our server. Several windows98 machines on our network access the
> SCO server to run a character application. We're using the great Netterm
> from Neosoft, but it doesn't have a linux version! So I have the same
> problem that you - can't print to a local printer when using Linux and a
> emulator like xvt, xterm, konsole, etc. The emulator ignores the
> "transparent print" escape sequence.
XFree86 xterm supports the "transparent print" escape sequence(s).
The XFree86 3.3.3.1 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
There's an faq at
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: [?]mount image without device
Date: 18 Aug 1999 13:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:35:18 GMT,
jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> subject: [?] mount image without device
>howdy, how do i mount a file-system-image (root,romfs)
>liked within linux-kernel-image(vmlinux)
>directly without extra real device
>and without using initrd
I don't know, but my ability to understand some of the messages these
days is going way down.
I think you want to mount a filesystem that is in a file on another
filesystem? If so, you want the loop device. Ensure your kernel has
loop device support, then mount the filesystem like so:
mount -o loop -t romfs /mnt file_with_filesystem_in_it
If you have an image copied to a floppy without a filesystem (eg a boot
floppy), then you need to copy the image off the floppy to a file
elsewhere. rdev will give you hints about where the (likely compressed)
filesystem starts on the floppy.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: broken X Font server - can no longer boot up
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:26 +0000
sorry, I wasn't talking about the host name error - that's the least of
my concerns now.
I was talking about the numerous error messages i would get but didn't
know since I'm in the X console. I will only come to realise those
errors as i return back to normal console. It happens too even if I
just run AfterStep alone.
anyway, I reinstalled the entire system again and don't dare to upgrade
XFree86 to 3.3.4 until somebody can teach me what I can do to deal with
X Font Server failing on me?
Bob Tennent wrote
>
> Try adding the following line to /etc/hosts:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback
>
> Bob T.
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From: McCabe Dansteds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on Windows 95 or Windows NT?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:04:30 +0800
Mark Haase wrote:
> umm... important point. what do they cost and where can they be found?
Try
www.winehq.com (free, well integrated, prealpha)
www.vmware.com ($99 (edu) - $299 (com), no integration (virtual PC), final release)
www.dosemu.org (free, DOS ONLY, beta)
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From: Americo Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local printing using ansi emulation
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:30:50 GMT
danielm5397 wrote:
>
> Hi, we're replacing a Windows PC with TinyTERM as a term emulator with a
> RedHat Linux and telnet (using ansi emulation). The TinyTerm was using
> Wyse60 emulation (which has the lprint command in the termcap /
> terminfo files)
> We have added the lines corresponding to the lprint command to the ansi
> entries in termcap/terminfo but we aren't able to use a local printer
> yet (we have no error messages, but the "printing" goes thru' the
> monitor instead of the printer)
> The server is a SCO Open Server 5.0.5
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Daniel Mario Pirosanto
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Hi Daniel,
I'm newbie to Linux (not to unix). I use the same version of SCO Unix
(5.0.5) on our server. Several windows98 machines on our network access the
SCO server to run a character application. We're using the great Netterm
from Neosoft, but it doesn't have a linux version! So I have the same
problem that you - can't print to a local printer when using Linux and a
emulator like xvt, xterm, konsole, etc. The emulator ignores the
"transparent print" escape sequence.
So your problem is on the emulator, NOT on lprint. You must (like me) find
an adequate terminal emulator! Or, (worse for who's in a hurry) to get the
source of xterm, xvt, etc. and implement the transparent print sequence.
There is another way to put the printer working. Forget local printing. See
the following recipes (not tested, but I'm sure that they work):
- Create a print queue on the Linux box, export it, and create a remote
printer on SCO to connect to it. It's not a good idea if you have several
printers, but it works fine for one or two units.
- Use the rsh/rcmd utilities. I'm going to try this. Has the advantage that
you do not need to create several print queues on SCO.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ppp compression missing
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:35:00 +0000
I got that advice earlier too, but what are ppp-compress-21, 24 & 26 in the 1st place?
anyway, to connect this session I used kppp in AfterStep & along with the use missing
compress modules i got these 2 extra lines :
Aug 19 00:25:27 localhost pppd[1060]: Unsupported protocol (0x829) received
Aug 19 00:25:27 localhost pppd[1060]: Unsupported protocol (0x82b) received
they juz won't stop coming, would they? :(
"W.G. Unruh" wrote:
> These are not a problem. To get rid of them put into /etc/conf.modules
> alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
> alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate # From original RFC draft
> alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate # Final standard per ppp-2.3.4
>
> But they will cause any difficulty if they are not there.
>
> Which verion of pppd You need at least 2.3.5 and should get 2.3.9 (current version)
> Also if you are running kppp, you need to upgrade it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Prob running SCO binaries on RH 5.2
Date: 18 Aug 1999 16:04:36 GMT
I've built a RedHat 5.2 system and have included the iBCS
module in the Kernel. Whenever I try to run a SCO binary,
whatever that binary seems to be, I get an error. See
transcript below:
[root@redhat bin]# zzz
bash: /usr/local/bin/zzz: No such file or directory
The executables are in the path and are set to -rwxr-xr-x
permissions. If I type the name of an executable that does
not exist then I get a different error:
[root@redhat bin]# treesaregreen
bash: treesaregreen: command not found
What does this "No such file or directory" error mean?
Cheers,
Kingsley.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:56:04 GMT
I know this question might have been asked before,
but I wasn't able to find it on the list or in
FAQs/HowTos.
Can I download linux files (either .rpm or .tar)
to a windows based system, then copy them (via
FTP) to my linux box for installation?
Reason I'm trying to do this is because I have a
faster net connection using my Winmodem. :[
ANY info/documentation/tips would be appreciated.
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From: Nicholas Pappas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Help w/ sound card
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:36:51 -0400
I have been having trouble my sound card on RH6.0 for some time. I
actually have 2 sound card (2 different computers) that result in the same
error.
At work I have a HP Kayak with a AD1816 chipset (onboard sound).
At home I have a SB Live! Value.
In both cases I run 'sndconfig' and get a modprobe error that tells me the
device or resource is busy.
/lib/modules/2.2.5.15/misc/ad1819.o
init_module: Device or resource busy
(and ad1819.o is replaced by sb.0 at home)
Can anyone help me out as to why I am getting this? At home I have tried
all incarnations of the SB (regular, 16, 32 and 64), at work I only have 1
choice.
I've tried editing /etc/conf.modules by hand, but it still doesn't work --
when I boot, I get a FAILED message when it tries to init the sound (again,
with a busy message).
Any help is greatly apprecaited -- this is the only thing preventing me
from leaving Windows '95 for good at work and at home for everything but
games!
PLEASE HELP ME PURGE MY SYSTEM OF EVIL MICROSOFT PRODUCTS! :)
(if possible, please respond via e-mail)
Nick
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From: "Richard L. Rutledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ppp compression missing
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:55:52 GMT
I am having the same problem. The redhat FAQ avaiable from their web site
has an entry describing this problem and two possible solutions. One
involves creation of a few module aliases in conf.module. Adding the
aliases emilinated the error reporting, but I still do not connect to my
ISP. Redhat has told me that my problem is beyond the scope of the
purchased tech support. what a crock!
Aaron wrote in message <7pbs8u$pm8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I've been dialing in to my ISP as well as my univ server thru Linux & found
>in /var/log/messages some lines that go :
>
>can't locate module ppp-compress-#
>
>where # is some number.
>I was not able to log on to my ISP (which uses PAP), but could with my univ
>(uses txt script).
>does anybody know what module is it reporting about? I'm using RH6.0 with
>pppd 2.3. I've neva come across such errors when using RH5.2
>
>
>
>
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help edit xterm termcap, please
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:59:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Christian Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found out in the termcap file that a terminal answerback may be set
> using the u8 or u9 field within the termcap definition file. I'm not
no - it cannot:
+ the answerback string cannot be programmed by the host
+ the termcap only describes what the terminal does
+ the u6-u9 strings are not used for this purpose anyway.
> having too much luck getting the answerback to change, and the file
> itself didn'f offer an example syntax.
> Does someone out there have a termcap file that has a defined
> answerback, and if so, advise the group? I have a feeling it is a
> simple control character, but am not versed enough to know for sure.
> Thanks!
> Christian Reynolds
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Diskette Longevity
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:31:36 GMT
Hello. I've been using the same floppy disk for the past two
months, popping it in and out of my drives several times a day
and transporting nearly everyday.
Yesterday, I couldn't mount the disk because of some bad sector.
(don't remember the error.) So my guess is the diskette just wore out.
Fortunately, I still have my stuff on my hard drive.
Now my question is:
1. how long do floppy 1.2MB diskettes last?
2. Are zip drives more robust?
3. If a disk has a few bad sectors, is there anyway to recover what
might be left on the good sectors? (Perhaps none of my data fell
on the bad sectors) That is, is there some sort of Norton's
Utilities for Linux?
Thanks.
-Godfrey Degamo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Avijit Purkayastha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.harware
Subject: eth0 failing for Eiger Labs card..help
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:40:28 -0500
Hi All,
I upgraded my laptop from red-hat 5.1 to 6.0 and am facing
the following problem with bringing up eth0..
The pcmcia version is 3.0.9 and the kernel is 2.2.9-19mdk
(mandrake linux)..With 5.1 there was no problem, so I assume
I am setting up something incorrectly...:-(
In the boot setup, the eth0 is brought up first -- its failing. The
pcmcia is coming up later and its a sucess.
The message from the /var/log/messages is as follows from
eth0, network, pcmcia...
I hope someone will have had similar experiences with other
cards and suggest corrective action.
Thanks
- Avi
p.s. I'd appreciate it, if answers/suggestions are e-mailed directly to
me.
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Aug 17 14:49:18 localhost network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
Aug 17 14:49:18 localhost insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.9-19mdk/net/fmv18x.o:
init_module: Device or resource busy
Aug 17 14:49:18 localhost ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization.
Aug 17 14:49:18 localhost network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed
Aug 17 14:49:23 localhost kernel: eth0: LA501, sram 4K TX*2, port 0x100,
irq 11, hw_addr 00:00:0E:00:67:73
Aug 17 14:49:19 localhost network: Bringing up interface ppp0 succeeded
Aug 17 14:49:19 localhost portmap: portmap startup succeeded
Aug 17 14:49:19 localhost netfs: Mounting other filesystems succeeded
Aug 17 14:49:19 localhost random: Initializing random number generator
succeede
d
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost pcmcia: Starting PCMCIA services:
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost pcmcia: modules
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost pcmcia: cardmgr.
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: starting, version is 3.0.9
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: watching 2 sockets
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: starting, version is 3.0.9
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: watching 2 sockets
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: initializing socket 1
Aug 17 14:49:22 localhost cardmgr[324]: socket 1: Eiger Labs EPX-10BT
Ethernet
Aug 17 14:49:23 localhost cardmgr[324]: executing:
'insmod/lib/modules/2.2.9-1
9mdk/pcmcia/fmvj18x_cs.o'
Aug 17 14:49:23 localhost cardmgr[324]: executing: './network start
eth0'
Aug 17 14:49:23 localhost rc: Starting pcmcia succeeded
Aug 17 14:49:23 localhost inet: inetd startup succeeded
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From: "Lt. Brandon Szalai, USNR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Diskette Longevity
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:13:43 -0400
You could always run scandisk to hopefully repair the bad sectors. Zip
disks will eventually have the same problems. After all, they are nothing
but big floppy disks. I suggest you only copy those files you want to put
onto floppy/zip disks. Both disks have a shelf life of approximately 5
years. But of course, the more you use them, the shorter the life span.
Contrary to popular belief, you shouldn't use either for long term data
storage/back-ups. The best way to store data and/or transport data is to
burn it onto a cd-rom (if you have that capability).
Brandon Szalai
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello. I've been using the same floppy disk for the past two
> months, popping it in and out of my drives several times a day
> and transporting nearly everyday.
>
> Yesterday, I couldn't mount the disk because of some bad sector.
> (don't remember the error.) So my guess is the diskette just wore out.
> Fortunately, I still have my stuff on my hard drive.
>
> Now my question is:
>
> 1. how long do floppy 1.2MB diskettes last?
> 2. Are zip drives more robust?
> 3. If a disk has a few bad sectors, is there anyway to recover what
> might be left on the good sectors? (Perhaps none of my data fell
> on the bad sectors) That is, is there some sort of Norton's
> Utilities for Linux?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Godfrey Degamo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: Chris Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Caldera -> RH?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:53:57 -0400
486's should do fine. I'm doing some work on a 486/66 right now and
it's more than powerful enough for learning purposes. The machine only
has 16meg. and it still runs better than Win95 under the same
conditions. There are a lot of useful things which you can do with a
486 and Linux.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera -> RH?
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Hi!
Had previously setup an OpenLinux 1.2 on a Pentium in a LAN setting;
things were running & I got my feet wet w/LINUX. Unfortunately had to
give up that PC.
Now, got some 486 boxes that came into retirement & was wondering of
setting it up to further explore what I can do with LINUX box in a
network environment.
I know this is all subjective but is it still worth upgrading to
OpenLinux 2.2 or should I start with Red Hat 6? This 486 was a server
box prior so it has SCSI & such. I liked the idea of OpenLinux 1.2
earlier b/c of it's netware client. Now with netware being able to go
IP I'm wondering if that's much of a pull ...
TIA.
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