Linux-Misc Digest #449, Volume #27 Sun, 25 Mar 01 19:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Scott Alfter)
Re: sc spread sheet (Andreas Hinz)
Xfree86 SiS620 onboard (Gonzalo)
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"? ("japhilp")
vmware 2.0.3 (Dan)
Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal (James Campbell Andrew)
Re: sc spread sheet ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Log history.. (Michael B)
Recompile kernel for sound on Debian ("Aubrey Kilpatrick")
Re: Partitions and Sizes ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Partitions and Sizes ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: X Startup Problem ("Eil")
Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead (John Todd)
Re: KDE (John Todd)
Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("AK")
Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux... (MH)
Re: restricted bash shell question (Dave)
Re: restricted bash shell question (Dave)
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:11:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Thompson wrote:
> Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the size
> they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be lots
> of conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the following,
>
> / 200mb
> /usr 850mb
> /var 50mb
> /boot 10
> /home 320
> Swap 64mb
>
> My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
> book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of the
> stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should be
> "set according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what my
> needs will be!
>
> I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
> memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
>
> Thanks
>
Why so many partititons ? One for swap (100MB), one / (700-900MB) and one
/home should be enough for your 1,5 GB -disk
Cheers
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using S.u.S.E. 4.3 and SuSE 7.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:17:18 -0000
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hun wrote:
>>
>> If you consider only the web browser, Yeah! still there is
>> no Web browser like IE. Especailly, when you visit M$
>> friendly web site.
>>
>IE doesn't work properly with www.microsoft.com! Visit it
>with IE, and much of the time it only renders the banner!
You must have a badly-damaged IE install or a really old (<3.0) version of
IE for it to be doing that. About the only time I run into problems with
www.microsoft.com is when I've reinstalled WinNT on some old box and need to
patch/update it, and in that case, IE can be downloaded on another machine
and burned to CD-R so it can be installed. Once that's done and the
latest/greatest version is installed, everything else goes pretty smoothly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: sc spread sheet
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:28:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Mcclain wrote:
>
>I've tried under RedHat 6 and Slackware 7 but fail like so.
>
>rh6:~/dld_pkgs/sc621> make
>
Hi,
try this:
http://downloads.excite.ca/linux/files/sc-7.6.tar.gz
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
Andreas Hinz
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From: Gonzalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xfree86 SiS620 onboard
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:30:04 -0000
Hi, well I've a problem with the xf86config in Slackware 7.1, I can't run
xwindow with more than 256 colors...
I've a Sis620 onboard... and I dunno the clockchip.. so I skip that in the
configuration...
Please if u can help me! I'll appreciate it!
thanx!
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:40:13 GMT
In article <99lik7$2rn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Thompson wrote:
>Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the size
>they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be lots of
>conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the following,
>
>/ 200mb
[-]
64 should do.
>/usr 850mb
[-]
Quite large IMHO.
>/var 50mb
[-]
Too small. Think of stuff like /var/cache for formatted manual
pages, mail- and news spool, the browser cache, ...
>/boot 10
[-]
Why ? Can reside in /
>/home 320
[-]
It depends.
>Swap 64mb
[-]
It depends.
>My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
>book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of the
>stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should be "set
>according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what my needs
>will be!
[-]
It means you might think things over. E.g. your /usr is pretty large and
there's no /opt for large packages at all.
You do not need to use the whole disk and if you don't, then you can
shuffle around things later, should it ever become tight. My /home
is about 128 meg and this includes things like /home/ftp (small)
and 320 meg might be a bit large. At the same time if you're going to
store lots of documents and stuff there it might be all right.
>I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
>memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
[-]
So you're probably not going to run a http server and other things,
then I'd propose
/swap 64 - 128
/usr
/ 64 - 96
/home
/var 64 - 128
/tmp 64 - 128
/opt 512+
Again if you don't need the whole disk *now*, then rather leave
some space free for now. You can still add a partition later,
like for /usr/src.
My /opt is rather large because of such packages like Applixware
plus other things.
Ta',
Juergen
--
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From: "japhilp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there an "Annoyance eliminator"?
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:10:17 GMT
"David Griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> japhilp wrote:
>
> > Now they claim that every click that I make is logged, in win98.
> > Sure, if it is winME, it not only logs the clicks, it keeps backups of
> > files before modifying them.Let them log it. my win98 is a comp that has
no
> > networking installed , none what-so-ever. :) For the really determined,
I
> > have it from some dubious sources that you should personally *melt* the
> > platter to hide your data. But not everyone can have a foundry in their
back
> > yard...
> >
> > Really, this is getting rediculous.Statements like "every click you make
on
> > Windows 98 Start Menu is logged and stored for ever on a hidden
encrypted
> > database within your own computer" are not exactly a "Public service
> > announcement". More like scare mongering tactics.
>
> I would love to see this 'forensic' software they speak of. They claim
your
> boss can see everything by just casually browsing, yet it took me all
morning
> to recreate a lost partition table.
> Also at the cost they are charging its almost becoming cheaper to buy a
new HD,
> and take a piece of sandpaper to the platters of the old one.
>
Sorry about the rant style of the initial post.
Perhaps I should have asked clearely:
Does anyone here have any experience or good info on this thing?Or is it one
of those "For Suckers" things like Download Accelerator, etc.
As for the boss finding things:
1) Internet Explorer keeps a history of sites visited, and cookies used .
They can be cleared out at the click of a button; but in that in-immitable
Microsoft style , the #@!% button is burried in some obscoure page of some
bizzare dialog box. , somewhere inside "Internet Options".
2) Netscape has a list of urls it keeps, but these too can be wiped by
clicking some button, which is less obscoure, but somewhere in there among
the forest of "Preferences".
3) The proxy/gateway can implement some sort of monitoring mechanism , and
there is nothing you can do about it.Well, almost. There are backdoors and
workaround for most commercial packages.
4) dd'ing zero over the whole disk usually stops most casual snooping. Of
course, given infinite resources, anything is possible.
I once wrote a trivial little program that would wait for netscape or ie to
end, and then would go through the respective browser's registry and log
files to clear out all of the "evidence" .A few days after I'd handed it
over, I found that someone else had already written the same thing and was
selling it for something like $25.
I'm just wondering if this new advertised software is something that anyone
with even half a brain could whip up.By the way, a visit tot their site
caused a few pop-ups to start. Not very nice...
later.
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:21:39 -0500
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vmware 2.0.3
hi all,
I run redhat 7.0 on SMP, and I'm having some sort of trouble with the
vmware-config.pl working with my autoconf.h, I was told that I can
comment out few lines with SMP on it in vmware-config.pl, but I forgot
what those lines are.
Can anyone help?
-dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.tandy,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Tandy Model 100 as linux terminal
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:00:01 +0100
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to use a Tandy model 100 as a terminal on a Linux
> machine?
>
> If so, how might I do this? I want to be able to log into my desktop and
> kill X when netscape or something else locks up X.
Oh, absolutely yes, I would imagine. You need to have a terminal running
on one of your serial ports though, so read up on the relevent HOWTO's
(I would imagine that the serial HOWTO is the one you want).
>From there you're just a null-modem cable away from getting 'Logon
please:" on that 40char display. Stick to a slowish baud rate - around
2400 baud should suffice, although it's been so long since I powered my
100 on that I can't remember if it even *supports* that baud rate!
Words cannot express how much I love the Tandy 100 - best damn laptop
ever made...:-) (although the Cambridge Z88 comes a mighty fine close
second)
Jim (going misty eyed with nostalgia)
--
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"We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal
laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical
event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sc spread sheet
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 22:57:14 +0200
Mike Mcclain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy,
> Has anybody managed to build sc the spreadsheet under linux?
> I've tried under RedHat 6 and Slackware 7 but fail like so.
> rh6:~/dld_pkgs/sc621> make
> interp.c:1050: macro `strchr' used without args
> make: *** [interp.o] Error 1
> this is where failed in /slak70 also
> on this line:
> 1050: extern char *strchr();
Apparently strchr is a macro in that source. Either comment out
line 1050 or add an #undef strchr above it.
> I suspect my makefile needs work, but really don't know what I'm doing
You have likely forgotten to configure the sources (aka forgotten to
read the instructions in the readme).
Peter
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From: Michael B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Log history..
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:45:31 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the info.
Regards,
MB
"Julian T. J. Midgley" wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi, I'm running Debian 2.2, and was wondering if log files are archived
> >anywhere besides /var/log ?
> >The current logs only go as far back as one month. (i.e .tar.gz)
>
> By default, Debian only keeps a month's worth of logs (to save on disk
> space). You can increase this by editing /etc/logrotate.conf (the
> line beginning 'rotate' is the one you want - set the number after it
> to the number of weeks for which you would like to keep your logs).
>
> All the best,
>
> Julian Midgley
>
> --
> Julian T. J. Midgley http://www.xenoclast.org
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From: "Aubrey Kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recompile kernel for sound on Debian
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:23:48 -0600
Hello,
Is it necessary to recompile the kernel (2.2.12) with all current stable
updates to get sound configured in Debian? I have looked at all the modules
included in the "modconf" program but did not find any for soundcards. I
know other distros include some sound card modules that can be included in a
config file to start at boot.
Any help on this greatly appreciated.
aak
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:54:20 +0200
Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the size
> they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be lots of
> conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the following,
> / 200mb
You probably need only about 64MB if /opt is not populated.
> /usr 850mb
Depends on your distro. Looks about right provided that you keep
/usr/local out of it.
> /var 50mb
No .. needs to be about 512MB to 1GB these days (for all those log
files, databases of your md5sums, package management lists, and then
space for /tmp and for making cd images on).
> /boot 10
> /home 320
/home should be for you, so it doesn't count. Actually I tend to leave
/home for "system" users like backup, ftp and www, and put myself
somewhere well away from there, likely on /users. You'll probably want
about 2GB for yourself and about 64MB for the above mentioned
personalities.
> Swap 64mb
fine, yawn.
> My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
> book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of the
> stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should be "set
> according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what my needs
> will be!
If you don't then nobody does. I urge you to take yourself more
seriously.
> I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
> memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
This is nearly insufficient these days. Given your constraints, yes,
you need :
64MB swap
/ 64MB
/usr 700MB
/var 200MB
/home 500MB
and don't buy a distro with the kitchen sink in it. Leave off some of
the insane documentation too, and read it off of the cdrom.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 23:58:33 +0200
Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim Thompson wrote:
>> Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the size
>> they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be lots
>> of conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the following,
>>
>> / 200mb
>> /usr 850mb
>> /var 50mb
>> /boot 10
>> /home 320
>> Swap 64mb
>>
>> My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
>> book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of the
>> stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should be
>> "set according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what my
>> needs will be!
>>
>> I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
>> memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
> Why so many partititons ? One for swap (100MB), one / (700-900MB) and one
Why so much swap? Why so few partitions?
> /home should be enough for your 1,5 GB -disk
Get your act together. He might as well do things properly. It seems
that at least he has read the literature and thus knows more about it
than you.
All that he doesn't really need is the /boot, since his disk is too
small to have more than 1024 cylinders. And his /var is way too small
as /tmp should be linked into it (to spare his /!) so it should be
upped to at least 128MB and possibly 200MB. His /usr can come down to
about 700MB if he throws away several different languages versions of
error messages and help files. And of course his / is way too big, as
64MB will be fine. I doubt if he'll need even 40MB.
Peter
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From: "Eil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Startup Problem
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:34:45 +0700
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Gerald Willmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On or about Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:15:07 -0500
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> ....Posted....
>
>> >I run Mandrake 7.2 and I am having problems with the X server. The
>> >system starts up fine, but I don't get the graphical login screen and
>> >I cannot seem to start X from the console. I've tried typing startx,
>> >but i get the following message: "Fatal server error: Could not open
>> >default font 'fixed'". Anyone have any ideas as to how I can get the
>> >system up and running?
>
> take a look at your XF86Config file - what does it say in the font
> section?
> Gerald
>
Make sure the xfs daemon is running too. You should have the symlink:
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S90xfs -> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs
If not, add it. If xfs is running, check your XF86Config file to see that
you see the line:
FontPath "unix/:-1"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: Help please! My root partition's supper block dead
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:20:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also use -f to force it:
e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/hdb2
and of course, man e2fsck
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:41:46 +0200, Ralph Miguel Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bosco Yip wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess my supper block of my hdb1 and hdb2 is died. Since my hdb2 is my
>> /, any way to recover it.
>> Sure I get kernel panic when I try to boot up. I has another linux
>> system on hda3,
>> I had try fsck and mount from this , both fail. Can I re-build the
>> supper block?
>>
>e2fsck -b 8193 should help.
>
>Cheers
>
>Ralph Miguel Hansen
>Using S.u.S.E. 4.3 and SuSE 7.1
>
>
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_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: KDE
Date: 25 Mar 2001 22:25:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On my RH6.0, there was no k package manager. For that reason
I use Gnome as root for gnorpm , and kde as user.
To change to gnome from kde, right-click the desktop, choose
"run command", type "switchdesk" and enter,
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 22:22:30 -0600, John Spindler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm new to linux and an having some basic problems with red hat 6 getting
>out of KDE without logging off. Any suggestions?
>
>Also trying to install hitech C compiler. Copied all the necessary files
>into a directory but I don't understand how to get the program install from
>KDE. No luck with RPM
>
>Any help will be appreciated.
>
>John
>
>
--
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6.0
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From: "AK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.windows
Subject: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:50:17 +0100
I am thinking of putting Windows ME onto one of my machines
.. it has 2 Harddisk.. identical in size..
Anyway the HDs has these partitions:
C: Win98
D: 15GB I plan to put ME on.
E: Linux
On E: I plan to put Linux.
If I did a setup D: or (whatever the switch is) would my MBR be OK?
Can all these 3 OSs exist OK.. and would my DOS be preserved?
I am using loadlin to load linux so it wont touch the MBR.
What would happen if D: was on a removable HD... would the system
he able to boot OK?
--
Kila_m
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is not a pipe "|" http://www.dvdwriters.co.uk
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux...
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:53:39 -0800
This is just too freakin' weird. I'm beginning to lose my confidence in
GNU/Linux.
Recently experienced sound problems with KDE 2.1 after installing a new
kernel. Sound was fine before I installed the new kernel--but not after.
Sound was working for my games, and all non-KDE apps, but not the KDE
desktop. I checked all my KDE configuration settings and everything looked
good, but when I tried to test sound in KDE I either got silence or silence
AND a frozen GUI. I pretty much gave up on trying to solve the problem
when...
By default, RH7 sets up NFS server services. When I installed a new
kernel, I did not include NFS server support, since I don't use it on my
workstation. To eliminate the boot error messages, I turned off NFS and
NFSLOCKD then rebooted my machine. Guess what? SOUND CAME BACK ON MY KDE
DESKTOP!!!
That wasn't the only weird thing. Some weeks ago, after upgrading my SAMBA
server to RH7, my Windows clients were unable to logon to the server.
Initially, there was a configuration problem, as the SAMBA folks decided to
relocate smb.conf. I got that sorted out so the Windows clients were
talking to the SAMBA server, but the server refused to allow the clients to
connect!?! I tried reconfiguring everything from scratch--no luck.
I was just about to reinstall an older version of SAMBA, when I decided to
try and disable DHCP, since I had added that service at the same time as
the RH7 "upgrade". DHCP was working fine, Windows clients et al. were
getting IP and network addresses, etc. and my Linux boxed had no problem
mounting NFS shares from my SAMBA server...but I figured what the heck. As
soon as I disabled DHCP, my SAMBA server started allowing my Windows
clients to logon!!!
WTF?
I won't even bother to go into all the problems I've had upgrading recent
kernels, and various Linux packages, both RPM and source--mostly these seem
to be related to RH7, but not always (I've had Debian issues, too). Nor
will I speak of KDE apps that won't load--or KOffice crashing, which is
actually beta quality software (at best!). I will mention the fact that I
still experienced numerous problems even after performing TOTAL SYSTEM
REINSTALLS--not upgrades, with all the correct packages, libs, etc.
The reliability of current GNU/Linux packages and related software seems to
be approaching that of Windows rather rapidly.
--
I use GNU/Linux and support the Free Software Foundation. This message was
composed and transmitted using free software, licensed under the General
Public License.
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From: Dave <dave@???.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: restricted bash shell question
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:42:44 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom
Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:38:23 -0700, Dave <dave@???.com> wrote:
> [snip] ...
>
> >I then set $HOME/bin as the only thing for PATH in >~/.bash_profile.
>
> Did you export PATH after you set it???dd
Yes I did.
I think I've got the PATH part figured out. I set the PATH value in
~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile and that did the trick.
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From: Dave <dave@???.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: restricted bash shell question
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:45:45 -0700
In article <Cthv6.6473$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Create a symlink named rbash that points to bash (ln -s /bin/bash
> /bin/rbash) and set /bin/rbash as the user's shell. The user will then have
> the proper path upon login.
What part of this invokes the restricted shell?
In otherwords, /bin/rbash in your intructions points directly to
/bin/bash. If I'm reading this right, I might as well just set the
shell to /bin/bash.
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