Linux-Misc Digest #451, Volume #21 Wed, 18 Aug 99 17:13:13 EDT
Contents:
GNU LilyPond 1.2 released - The Music Typesetter (Han-Wen Nienhuys)
Re: Looking for comparable apps in Linux from OS/2 (Johan Kullstam)
Re: D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT (Leonard Evens)
Re: ALSA (Timo Tossavainen)
HotJava 3, RH6, and JDK116 install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ECP Error (damian)
Re: Selecting GUIs? (NF Stevens)
AXENE KEYS NEEDED!! (George)
Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: netscape minimizes spontaneously (Neil)
RH6.0 and masquerading/ppp problem? (Ronald Cole)
*nix vs. MS security ("Christopher Lu")
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Andre Kostur)
Re: Address book and B-marks can move (Rod Pike)
Re: D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT (Chris)
Re: More kind words from M$. (Brett Hall)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Han-Wen Nienhuys)
Crossposted-To:
gnu.announce,alt.sources.d,comp.music,rec.music.compose,rec.music.makers.marketplace,comp.text.tex
Subject: GNU LilyPond 1.2 released - The Music Typesetter
Date: 17 Aug 1999 17:39:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU LilyPond - The Music Typesetter
WHAT IS LilyPond?
LilyPond is the GNU Project music typesetter.
LilyPond produces beautiful sheet music using a high level description
file as input.
BROWSE
Documentation and examples can be found on
http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen/lilypond/
DOWNLOAD
Sources for this project are on
ftp://ftp.cs.uu.nl/pub/GNU/LilyPond/v1.2/ (Europe)
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/lilypond/
(and mirrors of this site - see list after this message)
Prepackaged i386 and PPC packages for both Debian and RedHat GNU/Linux
are also available.
WHAT'S NEW?
* Large cleanups, enhanced design and GUILE integration for smaller
memory footprint and more flexible code.
* Direct output to PostScript (optional), PDFTeX or as GUILE script
(default output still to plain TeX).
* Convertors for ABC and MUP formats.
* Font: now available as scalable PostScript. New glyphs: time
signature, more note heads.
* Enhanced input: semi-automatic beaming, (nested) tuplets, (nested)
repeats, chordnames, automatic Lyrics durations.
* Grace notes, volta brackets, multiple styles for note heads and
time signatures, breathing signs, lyric extenders, cross staff
beaming and slurring.
* --safe option for the paranoid.
* More elegant spacing. Text is spaced exactly.
* Lots of bugfixes.
--
Han-Wen Nienhuys, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** GNU LilyPond - The Music Typesetter
http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/hanwen/lilypond/index.html
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for comparable apps in Linux from OS/2
Date: 18 Aug 1999 13:55:34 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zephyr Q) writes:
> I'm making the switch from OS/2 to Linux, and *really*
> would like some similar functionality with the following
> apps:
>
> A mail client as functional as PMMail (nested folders,
> remote control)
gnus/emacs or mutt
> A news client as good as ProNews (sigh, I know this one
> might be a long shot...)
gnus/emacs or slrn
> A slim browser that handles pages well (I never did like
> Netscape 2.02 for OS/2 much and Opera never panned out...)
hmm. i don't think there is one... for any system.
> Configuration tools (I don't need my hand held, but I also
> don't have a lot of time wading through scripts...).
emacs again. (or vi)
> Since I'm coming from OS/2, GUI versions of the above are
> preferable (I'm not afraid of CLI, just like it less than a
> decent GUI <<whoops, flame bait>>.)
there's a nice port of emacs to os/2. it's very functional since os/2
is a reasonably good operating system. emacs has menus and can be
pointed and clicked at if you're into that sort of thing. check out
xemacs if you really like gui.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:25:26 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I know this question might have been asked before,
> but I wasn't able to find it on the list or in
> FAQs/HowTos.
>
> Can I download linux files (either .rpm or .tar)
> to a windows based system, then copy them (via
> FTP) to my linux box for installation?
Yes. They are treated as binary files, and nothing
changes them during either transfer---assuming no
copying errors.
>
> Reason I'm trying to do this is because I have a
> faster net connection using my Winmodem. :[
You don't have to apologize. But when you get a
faster modem for your Linux system, you can also do
the reverse. You can download .exe or .zip files to
a Linux system and then transfer them to a Windows
system.
Text files are another matter. You have to worry about
the CR/LF (DOS/Windows) vs \n (Unix newline) issue. But
there are ways of converting from one to the other.
>
> ANY info/documentation/tips would be appreciated.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Timo Tossavainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ALSA
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:19:45 +0300
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> The problem is that most consumers use MS Windows and get ``free'' drivers with
> the purchase of their card, and don't give a hoot about HW specs, the
> availability of which affects only users of operating systems they don't even
> know about.
True. Which is why a binary standard for drivers would be useful then one driver
would do for all operating systems. I don't know if such a thing is possible
though. Maybe there's a way to use the windows drivers ? I still wonder why they
can't release the programming specs, what do they have to lose ?
Timo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HotJava 3, RH6, and JDK116 install
Date: 18 Aug 1999 18:51:46 GMT
Has anyone successfully installed HotJava 3 on a Red Hat 6 (most
recent rpm updates) with the JDK 116v5 gz file from Blackdown
installed? I'm using GNOME with Enlightenment.
I followed blackdown's instructions, and can compile and execute
java files/programs/applets. I followed sun.java.com's
instructions, and installed HotJava with the correct paths.
HotJava then completely locks up the system (can't even ssh in
from another machine).
Any tips or pointers to postings I may have missed appreciated.
--
Ian Neath, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: damian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ECP Error
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:17:52 +0100
Hi eveyone
I have a problem with connecting to the Internet usring Redhat 5.2 .
Sometimes, and it is more often than not, I get and ECP error when
connecting to the net. I was told by another user on a newsgroup to put
a CONNECT '\c' into my chatscript. This works more often now, but still
fails on many connections.
Any answers anyone PLEASE!!!!!
hope so
Damian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Selecting GUIs?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:16:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Abbadon) wrote:
[snip]
>You have to edit .xinitrc There may be a graphical way to switch but I don't
>know of it. To switch back to Gnome (I am going on memeory here. I use gnome
>but I only use the panel and even then not that much) put in .xinitrc
>
>exec gnome-session
>exec panel
>exec (window manager of choice)
>
>The first brings up the gnome desktop, the second brings up the panel and the
>last brings up your window manager.
>
You only need the first of these (exec gnome-session). The session manager
will start up the window manager, the panel and any other applications you
have told it to start.
Norman
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From: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: AXENE KEYS NEEDED!!
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:30:54 GMT
I downloaded some really great looking software from axene.com for
Linux x86 and now the company is gone!! I need the permanent keys to use
the
software. Can someone send me the keys with info on how to install them?!
Thanks!!
================== Posted via CNET Linux Help ==================
http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Date: 18 Aug 1999 19:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <c1.2c.2RsHly$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John
Thompson) writes:
<snip>
>
>I've used the linux hpfs read/write drivers without problems. As
>you say, linux is EA-unaware, so it doesn't even try to write
>EA's when you write files to the hpfs partition. In hpfs, the
>EA's are stored in each file's fnode and are safe from any
>tampering by EA-unaware programs (unlike on a FAT partition,
>where they reside in the "EA DATA. SF" pseudofile, which can be
>clobbered by EA-unaware programs).
>
>OTOH, I am reluctant to use the OS/2 ext2 filesystem driver as it
>can only access the ext2 partitions with "root" privleges,
>leaving it wide-open to all sorts of trouble.
>
>> I prefer using the native file systems for each OS as they are likely to be
>>the most feature-rich and stable.
>
>And, more important, designed for the system you're using.
>
>-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
John, where did you get R/W HPFS drivers for Linux? I have recently
installed the latest SuSE (6.2 as I recall), and my HPFS access is
read only.
Thanks
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape minimizes spontaneously
Date: 18 Aug 1999 12:11:19 PST
To follow-up, I just had the same problem with a shell window.
It would not minimix or close unless I typed exit.
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or, at least, it seems to just minimize for no particular reason.
> As you probably guessed, I am a newby with Linux. Why would Netscape
> just minimix seemingly for no reason? What can I do to fix this?
> I am not sure if this would happen with other programs, because
> at the moment I only use Netscape and telnet in Linux.
> Thanks.
> Neil
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RH6.0 and masquerading/ppp problem?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 12:28:09 -0700
I'm running a firewall with RH6.0 using IP Masquerading on a dialup
ppp connection. From a machine on my internal network (also running
RH6.0), if I start, say, reading a news active file and then do a
ping, I get a lot of messages about byte 8 not being correct and the
packet ultimately being considered lost. This only seems to happen
when I'm saturating the dialup connection. Less often, ppp0 will
screw up: if I ping, I can see the packet go out on the modem and then
something coming back, but all the packets seem to be getting dropped
and the connection is pretty much useless.
Has anyone else seen this?
--
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My PGP fingerprint: 15 6E C7 91 5F AF 17 C4 24 93 CB 6B EB 38 B5 E5
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From: "Christopher Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:43:47 GMT
I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux) is
free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
and stuff, since it's a free OS.
I questioned the fact that the majority of servers on the internet use some
flavor or *nix. He answered saying that only small size companies use *nix.
Everyone else uses something more secure (he meant MS I'm assuming).
I wanted to know what everyone here thinks about this. I'm a firm believer
thatn *nix is a very stable, secure system. Granted I haven't had a whole
lot of experience dealing with *nix but everything I've seen/read/heard has
led me to that conclusion. But being naive when it came to *nix I was
unable to counter my instructor with anything substantial.
Thanks!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Kostur)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:25:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Lu) wrote in
<T1Eu3.4862$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>X-Priority: 3
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
>
>I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
>instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
>Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux)
>is free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people
>can hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the
>interrupts and stuff, since it's a free OS.
>
>I questioned the fact that the majority of servers on the internet use
>some flavor or *nix. He answered saying that only small size companies
>use *nix. Everyone else uses something more secure (he meant MS I'm
>assuming).
>
>I wanted to know what everyone here thinks about this. I'm a firm
>believer thatn *nix is a very stable, secure system. Granted I haven't
>had a whole lot of experience dealing with *nix but everything I've
>seen/read/heard has led me to that conclusion. But being naive when it
>came to *nix I was unable to counter my instructor with anything
>substantial.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
Off-Topic: Ask Microsoft what they're running Hotmail off of.
Fallacy: Having access to the source code makes the system less secure.
By this reasoning, RSA (and PGP, and IDEA, and RC5, and...) are all
inherently less secure than say ASES (Andre's Secret Encryption System).
After all, you can get the algorithms for RSA pretty easily, but the ASES
algorithm is only known to me.
To be quite honest, RSA is many, many orders of magnitude more secure
than ASES, _because_ everybody can examine the algoritms. I'm no
cryptanalyst, so my encryption system will suck.
But, back to operating systems.... given that the source is available, it
actually makes it easier to locate and fix security holes in the system
since there are so many people (and a lot of them are altruistic and will
report security holes rather than exploit them) examining the system.
Heck, you have to trust Microsoft (and those designated by Microsoft)
that Windows NT is secure, where with Open Source projects (Linux, and
others) you don't have to trust Linus Torvalds when he says (note I'm not
saying that he has said, this is only an example) that Linux is secure
(or can be made so with the correct administration). You can choose to
trust Alan Cox. Or any one of a few thousand people who have examined
the source code.
In my experience, Unix systems have been a lot more stable than NT boxes.
Heck, my desktop NT box routinely crashes EXPLORER.EXE!
Note that I'm not claiming any of the above people have made any claims
about the security of Linux, I'm only using their names as examples
(mostly since they are very high-profile names in the Linux community).
As for "only small companies use Unix".... here's a transcript of a short
ftp session with a company I'm sure many people will recognize as a
company that can hardly be called small....
Connected to FTP.NIKE.COM.
220-
220- Unauthorized Access Prohibited
220-
220-
220 barb FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-17](1) Tue May 19
11:39:59 PDT
1998) ready.
User (FTP.NIKE.COM:(none)): ftp
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> literal syst
215 UNIX Type: L8
ftp>
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From: Rod Pike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Address book and B-marks can move
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:04:16 +0200
Valentin Guillen wrote:
> While it appears that the actual mail files themselves are not portable,
> the address book and the book marks can be either: accessed from one
> operating system on a given partition to another, or the files simply
> "exported" via floppy, email, or even accross partitions, to be used in
> another operating system. I keep my address books and bookmarks on
> OS/2, Linux and Win9x synchronized this way in Netscape.
>
> Unfortunately, my ISP does not offer IMAP4 as a mail system, but only
> POP3. IMAP would solve the problem you and the rest of us are
> experiencing. With IMAP, the files can stay on the mail server, and
> accessed by any of your mailclients, at any time, even repeatedly.
>
> Best Regards
> --
> Valentin Guillen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------------
> remove capitalized letters to email me
> remueve mayusculas para enviarme email
Hmm... too bad, Netscape is almost there. A real opportunity to take back
some market share in the browser war by capitalizing on the growing
community of people who us both Windows and Linux. My next thought is to
look into VMware for running Outlook or Netscape so I can keep all my mails
in one place.
Still looking.
Rod
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: D/L Linux files using Windows 98/NT
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:02:20 GMT
In article <7pel2c$46e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can I download linux files (either .rpm or .tar)
> to a windows based system, then copy them (via
> FTP) to my linux box for installation?
you can download them using any OS. they must be downloaded as a binary
file though. i guess most FTP programs do this, Netscape does it if you
hold down shift, but lets talk real FTP.
go to www.tucows.com and download LeechFTP, the best FTP client for
windows going. there are 3 buttons almost right in the middle of the
LeechFTP toolbar, one is a little page w/ blue 1's and 0's. the next is
a cute little page w/ green ABC's, and the 3rd is a red page that says
AUTO.
these buttons allow you to select how you want to download the files.
for .rpm's and .tar's you want ot download them as binaries, so click
the button w/ the 1's and 0's.
>
> Reason I'm trying to do this is because I have a
> faster net connection using my Winmodem. :[
>
why? what do you connect w/ from linux? do you have 2 modems? your slow
linux connection could be an IRQ conflict w/ a serial mouse.
take it easy,
chris
> ANY info/documentation/tips would be appreciated.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Brett Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: More kind words from M$.
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:49:13 +0000
Mindspring News wrote:
> Charles Sullivan wrote in message <7o8bp9$n9g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >While waiting to be selected for jury duty I found a copy
> >of the "Microsoft Internet Developer" magazine inexplicably
> >included in the stack of mostly ladies magazines in the
> >waiting room. This is the August 1999 issue.
> >
> >On Page 6, "Editor's Notes", is found the following:
> >
> > "What starts off hot, gets unpleasantly sticky after
> > awhile, starts to stink like a minty goat soon after
> > that, and ends up making you wish you never experienced
> > it? No, we're not talking about the experience of
> > getting Linux actually working on your machine. It's
> > summer in New York City! ...".
> >
>
> He's just an AOL employee posing as a microsoft developer to further AOL's
> insidious purposes. He used the words "unpleasantly" and "experienced". A
> real microsoft programmer can't use words more than 8 letters in length ;)
Well as long as you don't count all the gobbledy-gook the prepend to every
word to tell you what kind of word it actually is ;)
-brett
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