Linux-Misc Digest #451, Volume #27 Mon, 26 Mar 01 04:13:02 EST
Contents:
How can I set up pop3 daemon on RedHat 7? (Tau Kim)
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. (zeke)
Re: Partitions and Sizes (Floyd Davidson)
how can uninstall and install cron daemon (niketan sharma)
Compaq Deskpro XL Howto? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Partitions and Sizes ("Peter T. Breuer")
Newbie Configure Network Card? ("The R")
Re: [Tomcat] how to add a new context (Robert Lynch)
Re: Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux... (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: where to set harddisk geometry ("Eric")
Re: iptables under 2.4.2 (Nick Traxler)
Lilo question... ("Ren� Scheibe")
Re: Lilo question... (Michael Heiming)
Re: Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux... (simes)
Re: Lilo question... ("Eric")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tau Kim)
Subject: How can I set up pop3 daemon on RedHat 7?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:29:50 GMT
How can I set up pop3 daemon on RedHat 7?
I used to install imapxxx.rpm on RedHat 6.2 and then pop3d was
automatically set up. But after I upgraded to 7, this doesn't work.
Then, I tried to get pop3d rpms but, I couldn't. What should I get?
Where can I get it? (I tried several ftps, like ftp.redhat.com, blah
blah blah..... T.T)
Pls help.
ps. I would relly appreciate if you reply me via e-mail..
ps. And another problem is I used to use qpopper on Solaris7 sparc
version. But I changed the server to Intel based Soalris8 and I can't
find the pkg of qpopper of solaris8 intel. ... T.T
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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:36:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Tim Thompson wrote:
>
>>> Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the
>>> size they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be
>>> lots of conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the
>>> following,
>>>
>>> / 200mb
>>> /usr 850mb
>>> /var 50mb
>>> /boot 10
>>> /home 320
>>> Swap 64mb
>>>
>>> My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
>>> book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of
>>> the stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should
>>> be "set according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what
>>> my needs will be!
>>>
>>> I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
>>> memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>> Why so many partititons ? One for swap (100MB), one / (700-900MB) and one
>
> Why so much swap? Why so few partitions?
>
>> /home should be enough for your 1,5 GB -disk
>
> Get your act together. He might as well do things properly. It seems
> that at least he has read the literature and thus knows more about it
> than you.
>
> All that he doesn't really need is the /boot, since his disk is too
> small to have more than 1024 cylinders. And his /var is way too small
> as /tmp should be linked into it (to spare his /!) so it should be
> upped to at least 128MB and possibly 200MB. His /usr can come down to
> about 700MB if he throws away several different languages versions of
> error messages and help files. And of course his / is way too big, as
> 64MB will be fine. I doubt if he'll need even 40MB.
>
> Peter
>
I like to do things properly too, but so much partitions seems to me like a
kind of overkill. If he installs things like KDE or Gnome, 100 MB swap
working together with 64 MB RAM isn't too much. And if you don't like the
way I am answering to a question, don't reply to my posting, troll.
Cheers
Ralph Miguel Hansen
Using S.u.S.E. 4.3 and SuSE 7.1
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From: zeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.windows
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:22:13 GMT
For linux I would not install it under the FAT32 file system( yea it sux)
So I would use fdisk and just leave a few gigs unpartitioned for linux then
when you install linux it will find the free space and partition it to ext2
fs what is 1000% better than fat32. However You will need some sort of 3rd
party boot loader to make this work.
AK wrote:
> I am thinking of putting Windows ME onto one of my machines
> .. it has 2 Harddisk.. identical in size..
>
> Anyway the HDs has these partitions:
>
> C: Win98
> D: 15GB I plan to put ME on.
> E: Linux
>
> On E: I plan to put Linux.
>
> If I did a setup D: or (whatever the switch is) would my MBR be OK?
> Can all these 3 OSs exist OK.. and would my DOS be preserved?
> I am using loadlin to load linux so it wont touch the MBR.
>
> What would happen if D: was on a removable HD... would the system
> he able to boot OK?
>
>
> --
> Kila_m
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This is not a pipe "|" http://www.dvdwriters.co.uk
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: 25 Mar 2001 19:34:33 -0900
"Tim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can any one give me some advice on what partitions to set up and the size
>they should be? From reading the info on the web, there seems to be lots of
>conflicting information, but so far I plan to set up the following,
>
>/ 200mb
>/usr 850mb
>/var 50mb
>/boot 10
>/home 320
>Swap 64mb
>
>My main concern is that the /home partition is not the correct size. The
>book I am using says that you do not need this partition, but a lot of the
>stuff on the web says that it is worth setting up and that it should be "set
>according to your needs." As I am new to this I do not know what my needs
>will be!
>
>I intend to run Linux on a stand-alone lap-top, single user. I have 64mb
>memory and 1.5gb hard-disk.
There have been three or four pretty good responses that
indicate good thinking about how to partition a 1.5g disk. I
would point out two things.
First and formost, is that *none* of them were adapted to *your*
needs. That is why you have previously seen "lots of
conflicting information", and why some of the responses were
different. How big does /home need to be? Or how big does /opt
need to be? Well... it depends. The same is true of swap
space. It depends on what *you* are doing with that laptop.
For example, my old laptop has a *lot* more swap and doesn't
even have an /opt directory. The /home dir isn't all that big,
but /usr/local is a separate partition too. And all of that
matches what I do. You will need to look at what your intended
use is, and configure the system to match that. (Just do pay
attention to what was said about /var, because that one is hard
to efficiently work around later if it is too small.)
The second point though, is to note that for most laptops there
are very inexpensive larger hard disks available these days. I
have a couple of 2g disks for my old Toshiba, and that seems to
be big enough to make disk space no "no problemo" situation for
my uses. I would buy a 4g if I needed it, and you might give
either a 2g or a 4g some thought if that is reasonable.
Maybe another neato thing to consider is an adapter allowing
you to plug that laptop disk into a regular IDE bus on a desktop.
I bought one for $6.95 plus shipping. One of the advantages it
provides (if you have a reasonable sized hard disk on a desktop)
is that you can plug it in, copy everything off to the big disk,
do *anything* you like to the little hard disk, and then restore
your system and put the disk back into the laptop. Hence making
a gross error in partitioning isn't really all that painful to
correct.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: niketan sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how can uninstall and install cron daemon
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:30:06 -0000
is there any way how i can install and uninstall cron daemon on red hat
linux 5.2 it has happened to me that cron was not excuting the command at
specific time i took help of someone but don't know what he did ?
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Compaq Deskpro XL Howto?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:32:59 GMT
There used to be a Compaq Deskpro XL Linux Howto web page
maintained by somebody at a University in Austria, but it's
gone. Does anybody have a copy saved somewhere?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! A shapely CATHOLIC
at SCHOOLGIRL is FIDGETING
visi.com inside my costume...
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions and Sizes
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:32:06 +0200
Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>> Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Tim Thompson wrote:
>>
> I like to do things properly too, but so much partitions seems to me like a
That's nice
> kind of overkill. If he installs things like KDE or Gnome, 100 MB swap
Why does it seem that way to you? It's correct. Read the
Partitioning-HOWTO for more info. And no, it's not many partitions.
He only has / /usr /var and /home. If you were getting fancy, you could
argue for /usr/share, /usr/X11R6, /usr/local and /opt and /users as
well.
> working together with 64 MB RAM isn't too much. And if you don't like the
That's not nice. If he needs 100MB swap he is dead in the water. He should
never be more than about 10MB into swap at a maximum or his machine
will go at the speed of his disk, not at the speed of his ram and
cpu. 64MB swap is more than enough for 64MB ram, and he could probably
cut it to 32MB. It'd be a good idea. FYI kde needs about 32MB of resident
ram.
> way I am answering to a question, don't reply to my posting, troll.
G'way. I don't like the way you are answering the question AND I
don't like the posting of misinformation. I am _correcting_ your
posting, not replying to it.
To give you the benefit of the doubt (i.e. that you are not trying to
soothe your ego but actually trying to provide a techically feasible
alternative) and to put words into your mouth, I suspect that you are
advocating / (1GB) and /home (500MB). I.e. you don't like /usr and /var
being split off from /.
Why not? If he uses 64Mb for / he can only be overestimating by
10-25MB, which means he loses out on 10-25MB of available space. If he
doesn't like that, he can always repartition and do it again. I'm
guessing he needs 48MB, so I am saying 64. And then he has the benefit
of having / all nice and bootable the next time he does something silly
to the rest of his disk, which he will do in fairly short order. That's
a BIIIIG lifesaver.
And if you seriously advocate having /var on the same partition as /,
you are crazy. I really hate having my /etc/mtab not creatable at boot
time because my /var/log files have filled the disk. It's also not good
wrecking your nice stable / partition because your machine was busy
writing stuff to syslog at the time the appartment cleaner pulled the
plug. I hate having a machine complain it can't boot because / contains
duplicated blocks and would the nice person in charge kindly disentangle
/var/log/apache/error.log from /lib/libc-2.1.3.so, which were the two
files "in use" at the time the power went. Brrrrrrrrrrr.
Peter
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From: "The R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Newbie Configure Network Card?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:54:47 GMT
Where do I go to configure the network card and TCP/IP on RH Linux 7.0
running either KDE or GNOME desktop?
I have a network card installed and I'm not sure if Linux has found it, if
not how do I install it? (I have linux drivers)
Ps. the card is a linxus card..
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Tomcat] how to add a new context
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:55:56 -0800
SolarisCert wrote:
>
> I have installed Tomcat without Apache integration
> how can I add a new context?
>
> what I have done:
> add the followings to server.xml
> <Context path="/abc"
> docBase="webapps/abc"
> debug="0"
> reloadable="true" >
> </Context>
>
> mkdir the following directories:
> mkdir $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/abc
> mkdir $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/abc/WEB-INF
> mkdir $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/abc/classes
>
> copy the servlets to $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/abc/classes
>
> after restarting tomcat, I can get it work
>
> when I surf http://tomcat-server:8080/abc/servletprog
> the standout output generate the following errors:
> 2001-03-26 10:36:36 - Ctx( /abc ): 404 R( /abc + /serv......
>
> Anything I missed?
For servlets I think you need more path:
http://tomcat-server:8080/abc/servlet/SomeServlet
.jsp's should work though:
http://tomcat-server:8080/abc/Some.jsp
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch Berkeley CA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:43:17 +1000
MH wrote:
> This is just too freakin' weird. I'm beginning to lose my confidence in
> GNU/Linux.
"If it works don't fix it."
Attempting to muddle through internal parts of a working system you have to:
a) be prepared to experiment AND learn from mistakes or
b) be a "guru", means that you have done those mistakes before.
We always learn!
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to set harddisk geometry
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:02:46 +0200
> > I'd swear that there was a way to have these parameters known to the
current
> > "environment". I've had problems with a scsi disk, which I boot from.
> > I'd partitioned with chs something like 1115,255,63. It all seemed to
> > worked initially.
> >
> > But lately I've tried to use Lilo, it complains that it can deal with
8000
> > cylinders. Needless to say, telling fdisk the "prescribed" geometry
> > doesn't help Lilo. And, of course, the scsi controller doesn't bother
to
> > save any "geometry".
It can deal with 8000 cyl. just fine.
(your PC may be unable to boot if the kernel-image is placed poorly,
but that's an entirely different issue)
If you want to use a different geometry than is detected,
specify it explicitly at boot time.
Let's say you have a disc /dev/hdd that reports 16384,16,63 for CHS
and you want to use 1024,255,63 instead.
At the lilo prompt you'd normally specify "linux" to boot linux,
now you'd specify "linux /dev/hdd=1024,255,63" and the disc wil
be seen by fdisk and lilo as having 1024 cyls, 255 heads and 63
sectors/track
You can also specify this in lilo.conf.
Read the User_Guide.ps for more info.
(it's already on your PC, look in /usr[/local]/doc/lilo-version/)
Eric
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From: Nick Traxler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: iptables under 2.4.2
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:19:19 -0500
Actually, just saying:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
did it.
(and echo 1 to the ip_forward process)
--
Nick Traxler
Computer Science, Purdue University
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/people/traxlend
"The two most common things in the Universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity."
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From: "Ren� Scheibe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo question...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:15:13 +0200
I'm testing new kernels on a machine on which I'm just
logged in over ssh. So no monitor and keyboard connected.
My question is if I can set up lilo so that when the testing kernel
fails and I reset the PC by turning it off and back on
a working kernel is used again.
Thanx...
...Ren�
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:23:00 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo question...
"Ren� Scheibe" wrote:
>
> I'm testing new kernels on a machine on which I'm just
> logged in over ssh. So no monitor and keyboard connected.
> My question is if I can set up lilo so that when the testing kernel
> fails and I reset the PC by turning it off and back on
> a working kernel is used again.
IMHO there is no possibility to do this, unless you have control
over the machine, physical or through a terminal server.
If your machine wont come up with the new kernel it will just hang.
Michael Heiming
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From: simes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Losing my confidence in GNU/Linux...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:23:36 +0000
MH wrote:
> This is just too freakin' weird. I'm beginning to lose my confidence in
> GNU/Linux.
>
> Recently experienced sound problems with KDE 2.1 after installing a new
> kernel. Sound was fine before I installed the new kernel--but not after.
> Sound was working for my games, and all non-KDE apps, but not the KDE
> desktop. I checked all my KDE configuration settings and everything looked
> good, but when I tried to test sound in KDE I either got silence or silence
> AND a frozen GUI. I pretty much gave up on trying to solve the problem
> when...
>
> By default, RH7 sets up NFS server services. When I installed a new
> kernel, I did not include NFS server support, since I don't use it on my
> workstation. To eliminate the boot error messages, I turned off NFS and
> NFSLOCKD then rebooted my machine. Guess what? SOUND CAME BACK ON MY KDE
> DESKTOP!!!
>
> That wasn't the only weird thing. Some weeks ago, after upgrading my SAMBA
> server to RH7, my Windows clients were unable to logon to the server.
> Initially, there was a configuration problem, as the SAMBA folks decided to
> relocate smb.conf. I got that sorted out so the Windows clients were
> talking to the SAMBA server, but the server refused to allow the clients to
> connect!?! I tried reconfiguring everything from scratch--no luck.
>
> I was just about to reinstall an older version of SAMBA, when I decided to
> try and disable DHCP, since I had added that service at the same time as
> the RH7 "upgrade". DHCP was working fine, Windows clients et al. were
> getting IP and network addresses, etc. and my Linux boxed had no problem
> mounting NFS shares from my SAMBA server...but I figured what the heck. As
> soon as I disabled DHCP, my SAMBA server started allowing my Windows
> clients to logon!!!
>
> WTF?
>
> I won't even bother to go into all the problems I've had upgrading recent
> kernels, and various Linux packages, both RPM and source--mostly these seem
> to be related to RH7, but not always (I've had Debian issues, too). Nor
> will I speak of KDE apps that won't load--or KOffice crashing, which is
> actually beta quality software (at best!). I will mention the fact that I
> still experienced numerous problems even after performing TOTAL SYSTEM
> REINSTALLS--not upgrades, with all the correct packages, libs, etc.
>
> The reliability of current GNU/Linux packages and related software seems to
> be approaching that of Windows rather rapidly.
>
> --
> I use GNU/Linux and support the Free Software Foundation. This message was
> composed and transmitted using free software, licensed under the General
> Public License.
> --
I have to say that once you have a working Linux config you should have your
Hard disk etched with its image!!
I love Linux but is the biggest ball ache in the world to set up reliably, its
just a simple truth!
There is a major benefit to this 'terseness' though, you need to know exactly
what you are doing to make it work!
VB for windows created a generation of shit programmers who produced truly
horrific software...
Yadda yadda tadda, I could go on
=============================> rant over.
simes
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo question...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:42:01 +0200
> > I'm testing new kernels on a machine on which I'm just
> > logged in over ssh. So no monitor and keyboard connected.
lilo -R new_kernel
will boot the next time with the new_kernel.
If you reboot that machine, the next time, the default kernel
will be booted again (as depicted with the default= line in lilo.conf).
> > My question is if I can set up lilo so that when the testing kernel
> > fails and I reset the PC by turning it off and back on
> > a working kernel is used again.
>
> IMHO there is no possibility to do this, unless you have control
> over the machine, physical or through a terminal server.
So you'd need to physically reboot the machine.
But the way I read the OP, this was the intention.
Eric
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