Linux-Misc Digest #541, Volume #21 Wed, 25 Aug 99 23:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: cdrecord - Need help urgently ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: why not C++? (Tristan Wibberley)
Re: cdrecord - Need help urgently (Dave Brown)
Re: modem setup on Linux... (Christopher Michael Collins)
Re: why not C++? (Tristan Wibberley)
ls -N (tofu)
Re: Bypass Login (Eric Hegstrom)
Re: Cracks for Linux? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: netscape 4.51 for linux (Patricia)
Best language for graphical apps? (Sean)
Network config: AMD PCNET PCI?? (T.P Harte)
Re: why not C++? ("Bruce W. Bigby")
Oops, Need some repair help ("Jeanette Russo")
Reboot problem after lockup ("NBNet")
Savage 3D VGA?? (yang_axis)
Re: Bypass Login (Robert Lynch)
Re: Bypass Login (Tristan Wibberley)
Re: HELP! unable to load interpeter (John McKown)
compatiblity problem between 2.2.0 and 2.2.9 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux viruses? (Robert Heller)
Re: Help: Samba and Printing (Wes McClain)
Re: WordPerfect on 24 bit visual? (Chris Mahmood)
Re: ls -N (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Linux's birthday? (William Burrow)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? ("Sam Leibowitz")
Re: NEWBIE Question: Is there a free database program for Linux (Frank Conte)
Re: What is the reasoning behind "stay away from root"? ("Sam Leibowitz")
Re: What I think of linux. (AngryMob)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cdrecord - Need help urgently
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Aug 1999 17:13:59 -0700
me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
www.freshmeat.net search for cdrdao
> hello
>
> i need to know how to elimitate the 2 second gap that cdrecored writes
> to disk when recording audio disks.
>
> this is the command i currently use:
>
> cdrecord dev=0,0 speed=2 -v -multi -audio defpregap=0 track1 track2
> track3
>
> but even with the default pregap set to 0, it still records 2 seconds of
> silence between tracks.
>
> is this right?
>
> please help
> ali
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:52:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Operator overloading:
I've opened a can of worms with that extensible operator syntax - it was
only meant to be a joke :( I'm sorry.
It's academic to me anyway - If I needed that much operator use I would
use a mathematical language specifically for that use (eg compiled
matlab scripts - That would be far more useful).
--
Tristan Wibberley
ps, My personal preference for not overloading operators to mean
something different to their normal use holds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cdrecord - Need help urgently
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 Aug 99 22:51:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, me wrote:
>i need to know how to elimitate the 2 second gap that cdrecored writes
>to disk when recording audio disks.
>
>this is the command i currently use:
>
> cdrecord dev=0,0 speed=2 -v -multi -audio defpregap=0 track1 track2 ...
>
>but even with the default pregap set to 0, it still records 2 seconds of
>silence between tracks.
Isn't there also a -dao option? Otherwise, I think you are writing
individual tracks, and the "spec" says there should be 2 secs of
silence between tracks. (I switched to cdrdao before cdrecord started
to support DAO, but I thought I saw a -dao in something I was reading
about cdrecord--which I still use for data CDs).
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Subject: Re: modem setup on Linux...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:06:05 GMT
Aw shoot, I can't believe the PCI -controller-less
modem on my Laptop compaq presario 1685 will not
work under linux...
Is it that case that all or nearly all pcmcia
modems will work with linux on a compaq laptop??
pcmcia-modem = presario = linux ?
--
--Chris
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:46:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
> (Tristan must really hate that boolean
> logic notation in which + stands for OR, and multiplication represents AND.
> How unbearably arriviste!) In any case, using % for cross-product pales in
> comparison to the C++ standard library's overloads of << and >> for input and
> output side effects.
I don't mind that boolean one - it works mathematically when combining
simple probabilities :) but the others I hate - I generally prefer to
not use operators past simple arithmetical operations - I can never
remember precedence so I have to look it up all the time :/ One day I'll
be able to remember - I'm reading a book on memory enhancing specially.
Fair point about which product * should represent though.
--
Tristan Wibberley
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From: tofu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ls -N
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:24:35 -0400
what does the -N option do for ls?
the man page says "do not quote filenames"
and _Linux in a Nutshell_ says "do not list filenames"
I can't tell from reading these descriptions what the option does and
when I run /bin/ls with and without the -N option I see no diff in the
output.
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From: Eric Hegstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,de.comp.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bypass Login
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:06:11 -0700
Yes, it is very strange indeed. I do in fact create a proper home
directory for my userName user (let's just call him "CS" since that
really is it's name).
Here's the reproduction steps. I set it up in my inittab to do the
mingetty for tty2-6 (remove it for 1 for obvious reasons) then do "su
--login CS".
So now we boot up nicely into ~CS (/home/CS) but I get an Authentication
fails (I believe it may be an _X11TransSocketINET Connect error=111 ).
But if I switch to another tty by doing the cntrl/alt/f2 and log in as
CS (with the password) then I can do a startx just fine. I can even
terminate that X session and go back and try it from the su'ed session
and it stiull fails (though you would think it may try to use the
.Xauthority stuff again). The .Xauthority file gets written when it
works. I have yet to go through it yet.
right now I am just booting up into a root account (su --login root) and
it seems to pass authentication.
Thanks for the help so far.
Cheers,
Eric
Tristan Wibberley wrote:
>
> Eric Hegstrom wrote:
> >
> > The only problem I am running into with this method is that my X client
> > claims "Authentication fails" when I try to connect to it when my
> > account is started using "su --login userName". If I go through the
> > normal mingetty login everything is OK. Does anyone know how to address
> > this. Should I be using the .Xauthority file created when I did the
> > sucessful xinit from the mingetty login. I have looked at the Xsecurity
> > manpage bu t obviously have not analyzed it in depth.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
>
> su --login is *supposed* to do everything that happens with login isn't
> it. Hmm, is the group set correctly with su?
>
> Ah, Hangon. .Xauthority is created in ~userName. Make sure you have a
> home directory for that user.
>
> --
> Tristan Wibberley
--
Eric Hegstrom .~.
Senior Software Engineer /V\
Sonoran Scanners, Inc. // \\ L I N U X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )\ >don't fear the penguin<
520-617-0072 x402 ^^-^^
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:44:57 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oleg Letsinsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) writes:
>
>> I tried the 4Front technologies driver for my sound card. It locked up my
>> kernel hard so I never looked back at the crap again. That is just lousy
>> programming.
>>
>> I wish that a hole in the ground would open up and swallow up these guys. Not
>> only do their drivers suck, but they are also getting in the way of free sound
>> development by getting into bed with manufacturers who then don't want to
>> release specs.
>I'd second that. The fact that there is a company which signs NDA and
>releases closed-source drivers for soundcards disturbs me. Look at
>Aureal's WWW site, 'Drivers' page. There are drivers for Windows 9x
>(of cause :-/), Windows NT, Win 3.1 (what?!), OS/2(err... I'm not
>sure, what these letters mean? :-))... There are no fscking drivers
>for Linux, only link to www.opensound.com. 'OpenSound', my ass!
>Why is it 'open'? Is it a joke?
>$20 for soundcard, which itself costs < $20, and *no sources*? Sorry -
>no source - no love. But the problem is that Aureal doesn't seem to
>care about releasing specs on their hardware, since 'drivers' for
>Linux already 'exist'.
>
And then you get companies (Buslogic?) who write Open Source drivers for
their SCSI cards. And as a result I bet their doze drivers are also red
hot - there's no hiding bad drivers when everyone can see your code and
tear it apart (even if the dozers haven't a clue how).
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:52:42 GMT
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:48:52 -0400, Bruce W. Bigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>directly throughout their code. You can write a whole object-oriented
>system in C, if you have the inclination with single-inheritance and do
>it efficiently. I've done it. :-)
I've done multiple *interface* inheritance in C without too many difficulties.
Structured exception handling too. :)
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From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.hacking,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: netscape 4.51 for linux
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:55:51 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have redhat 6.0 installed and it came with netscape 4.51. It's always
> crashing whenever anything that has to do with java is on the website
> I'm trying to access. How can I fix this. Thanks.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
type :
# chkfontpath --add /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
Netscape needs 75dpi-fonts,
HTH :-)
Patricia
--
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
Kernel 2.2.5-15
01:55pm up 43 min, 2 users, load average: 1.70, 1.29, 0.82
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:30:56 GMT
I wrote an app for windows and now I want to write a Linux version. I am a
Linux newbie and I don't know hoe to use GTK or any X library for C. But
if it's only for an app that sets enviroment variables it doesn't need the
speed of C and I'm not really good in C anyways. But what language is the
easiest to write GUI apps? Preferably with a graphical frontend. I want
to code this app as fast as possible. It doesn't need to be fast or
small. I just want it to look good and be easy.
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http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T.P Harte)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Network config: AMD PCNET PCI??
Date: 26 Aug 1999 01:11:51 GMT
Trying to get Red Hat 6.0 to talk to the world.
I have a :
AMD PCNET PCI
ethernet adapter, but there does not appear to be a suitable
module to load either in the list of available modules in the
`Define Module` window of the Kernel Configurator, nor in
/lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net
Does anyone have a suitable module out there?
ping 127.0.0.1 works okay, but the kernel reports that
eth0 has initialization delayed.
I did not configure the system for networking at install time,
so my guess is that linux has detected an ethernet card but
doesn't know how to talk to it.
Any help appreciated, thanks.
Thomas.
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From: "Bruce W. Bigby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:16:30 -0400
"Bruce W. Bigby" wrote:
>
> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:48:52 -0400, Bruce W. Bigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >directly throughout their code. You can write a whole object-oriented
> > >system in C, if you have the inclination with single-inheritance and do
> > >it efficiently. I've done it. :-)
> >
> > I've done multiple *interface* inheritance in C without too many difficulties.
> > Structured exception handling too. :)
>
Oh, I thought you said "multiple inheritance". I agree that multiple
"interface" is definitely doable. I thought about adding that to my
efforts as well. Sometimes, I think that it would be cool to join our
efforts and come up with a new kind of libc (not to replace libc), but
create an object-oriented system in C which is copylefted but enables C
programmers to develop object-oriented code in C.
--
Bruce W. Bigby
http://home.rochester.rr.com/bigbyofrocny
Do for others what you would want others to do for you.
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From: "Jeanette Russo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oops, Need some repair help
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:04:03 -0500
I was using dosemu and had a crash. When I rebooted I got this message,
An error occurred in file system check dropping you to shell. The system
will now reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maint.
Then I give the root password and I try to start x and get this x11
transport cannot connect error=2 giving up. xinit no such file or directory.
Unable to connect to x server.
Can this be fixed? If so can some one give me some good instructions I
never had to try to fix Linux before?
Thanks
Jeanette
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From: "NBNet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reboot problem after lockup
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:09:50 -0000
I am new to linux, just installed Mandrake 6.0 yesterday. I was trying to
get connected to the web, I think I crossed up my serial ports; anyway the
system locked up and I had to switch it off. Bad idea! Now on reboot I get
the message 'Enter run level:' So I tried 0,1,2,3,4,5 and so on.
All it says is
INIT: no more processes left to at this run level
and it stops.
The last line before the Enter run level is:
INIT: version 2.76 booting
Any ideas what to do?
Thanks,
Michael David
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: yang_axis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Savage 3D VGA??
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:58:59 +0000
Hi,
Everyone install Redhat 6.0 with S3 Savage 3D with no problem pls do
email me ok!! This is because after i install Redhat 6.0 using Savage 3D
got X window problem. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:57:35 +0000
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,de.comp.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bypass Login
Eric Hegstrom wrote:
>
> The only problem I am running into with this method is that my X client
> claims "Authentication fails" when I try to connect to it when my
> account is started using "su --login userName". If I go through the
> normal mingetty login everything is OK. Does anyone know how to address
> this. Should I be using the .Xauthority file created when I did the
> sucessful xinit from the mingetty login. I have looked at the Xsecurity
> manpage bu t obviously have not analyzed it in depth.
>
> Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
You could use Kodis' "autologin", see the Linux Gazette article or my
copy on:
ftp://shell3.ba.best.com/pub/rmlynch/RPMS/kodis.txt
If you're not into rolling your own, I put together some rpm's that
install
the necessary stuff:
ftp://shell3.ba.best.com/pub/rmlynch/RPMS/mingetty+autologin-0.9.4-1.i386.rpm
ftp://shell3.ba.best.com/pub/rmlynch/RPMS/mingetty+autologin-0.9.4-1.src.rpm
Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out how to REALLY do it, so you have to
force the install (I've got to revisit that thingie some day and fix
it.)
I use it to get a no-login VT1 on my own box, it's cool IMO.
At the bottom of Kodis' article he gives a script that runs X, but I
don't use it with autologin, so you're on your own.
The whole scheme is designed to allow autologin, which is why it is
called this, surprise!
Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,de.comp.os.linux,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bypass Login
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:37:35 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Hegstrom wrote:
>
> Yes, it is very strange indeed. I do in fact create a proper home
> directory for my userName user (let's just call him "CS" since that
> really is it's name).
>
> Here's the reproduction steps. I set it up in my inittab to do the
> mingetty for tty2-6 (remove it for 1 for obvious reasons) then do "su
> --login CS".
>
> So now we boot up nicely into ~CS (/home/CS) but I get an Authentication
> fails (I believe it may be an _X11TransSocketINET Connect error=111 ).
> But if I switch to another tty by doing the cntrl/alt/f2 and log in as
> CS (with the password) then I can do a startx just fine. I can even
> terminate that X session and go back and try it from the su'ed session
> and it stiull fails (though you would think it may try to use the
> .Xauthority stuff again). The .Xauthority file gets written when it
> works. I have yet to go through it yet.
>
> right now I am just booting up into a root account (su --login root) and
> it seems to pass authentication.
Hmm, this is puzzling. Maybe the environment isn't being set up
correctly - and the X server doesn't mind if you are root, but does if
you aren't (I've never actually done this autologin with an X server).
Remove startx and exit from .bashrc so you drop into an inveractive
shell and do (with CS autologin):
env > autologin_environment
Then switch to a different VT to do a standard login as CS and do:
env | diff - autologin_environment > env.diff
and post the env.diff file and we can see what differences there are
that there shouldn't be (if any).
--
Tristan Wibberley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: HELP! unable to load interpeter
Date: 26 Aug 1999 02:21:32 GMT
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:12:51 -0400, Rick Kennett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We are baffled by an 'unable to load interpeter' error. This is our
>first Linux box, introduced inspite of consultants that were recommendin
>NT and exchange for our mail. Now management is watching... very
>closley... We are very scared :-)
>
>Any help would be appreciated
>
>Thanks
>The Country Life Linux Underground
>
I've not seen this error. But I have a few questions:
1) When do you get this error message? When you try to login or later?
2) If later:
a) What did you enter to get this message?
b) try typing in "less $(which <command>)". Enter the command
in the quotes, without typing in the quotes. Replace the string
<command> with the command you're trying to run.
c) What is the first line displayed? I'm especially interested
if it starts with the two characters "#!" (ignoring the quotes).
d) If it does start with "#!", what is the rest of the line?
3) Which Linux distribution did you install? RedHat? Debian? SuSe? Other?
4) Try to detail exactly what you are doing and what the results are.
I'm not a real Linux guru, but there are TONS of people here who will try
to help rescue you from NT! Just stay calm.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: compatiblity problem between 2.2.0 and 2.2.9
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:33:53 GMT
Hello all,
I hope someone can help me out. I have this
program that has been compiled under 2.2.0. I
am trying to run it under 2.2.9 (mandrake
linux 6.0). However while it works fine under
2.2.0 it just goes into lala land under 2.2.9.
It is an X based program and uses X11 library
as well as GNU g++ and c libraries. My question
is, is there any way to make it work on 2.2.9?
Can I download the old libraries from somewhere
and would it work? Or am I condemmed to find a
machine to install 2.2.0 on and run my program from
there?
Many thanks,
Subuddh
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux viruses?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:38:56 GMT
"Jonathan Penalber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 25 Aug 1999 15:31:20 PDT, wrote :
"P> I haven't come across any antivirus programs for Linux. Are viruses not a
"P> problem on this platform?
Linux is a *real* operating system and viruses are not much of a
problem.
"P>
"P> Jonathan
"P>
"P>
"P>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Wes McClain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: Help: Samba and Printing
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:42:59 -0400
Jimmy Lio wrote:
>
> The Windows clients can see the printer attached to the server. When
> the clients print to the Samba printer, they succesfully pass the file
> to be printed to the Linux box (in fact, I tried 'ls' continuously on
> the specified printer path... and files appear on the path once I click
> to print on the windows clients)... but the files passed to the printer
> path is gone in less than a second... and the files are not printed
> out... and the printer doesn't even response to the print request from
> the Windows clients.
>
I was having a hell of a time with the same problem on my machines with
Redhat 6.0 and after trying every possible change to the printer section
of smb.conf I changed the security setting from user to share. That did
the trick, although I've no idea why. Now, if I could only fugure out
why my RH5.2 system has to use samba in order to properly print to my
rh6.0 system, I'll be really smokin'.
wes
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect on 24 bit visual?
Date: 24 Aug 1999 11:24:42 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Lapham) writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/20/99
> at 02:05 PM, grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards) said:
>
> > Why does WP work on one X server and not the other, when
> > they're both set up as 24 bpp truecolor?
>
> I don't know why but it also happens with Matrox. I'd suggest going to
> either 16 or 32 bpp.
Not all of the XFree86 servers run at 24bpp.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: ls -N
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 02:10:02 GMT
tofu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: what does the -N option do for ls?
: the man page says "do not quote filenames"
: and _Linux in a Nutshell_ says "do not list filenames"
:
: I can't tell from reading these descriptions what the option does and
: when I run /bin/ls with and without the -N option I see no diff in the
: output.
Normally, filenames are composed of printable characters. Sometimes,
filenames are composed of non-printables. Why? Program errors, malicious
attempts to hide files, whatever. So, normally, "ls" quotes non-printable
characters. Sometimes, you don't want that (maybe the non-printables are a
sequence that screws up your terminal?). So, you use -N.
Here's an example:
#
# Create a filename with a Control-G (bel) character in the filename
#
[stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ touch test^Gtest
#
# Now, display the file list. Note that the ^G is replaced with a '?'
#
[stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ ls
test?test
#
# Display the file list again, this time with -N. Note that there is no ^G in
# the filename, nor is there a '?'. However, and you can't hear it, my system
# beeped when it displayed the file list.
#
[stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ ls -N
testtest
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux's birthday?
Date: 26 Aug 1999 02:03:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Aug 1999 14:58:56 -0700,
Russell Senior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "Phil" == Phil Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Phil> When is Linux's birthday? IIRC, the first public release of
>Phil> linux was in September 1991, so it'll be 8 in a month or so's
>Phil> time; does anyone know the exact day?
>
>Judging by the time-stamps on the files in linux-0.01.tar.gz, it was
>released sometime after 16:30:09 GMT on September 17, 1991.
>
> tar xzvf linux-0.01.tar.gz
> TZ=GMT0 find linux -printf "%TY %Tm %Td %TT %p\n" | sort | tail
What programmer releases stuff in the afternoon? Did Linus pull a 24
hour all-nighter? :)
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
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From: "Sam Leibowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:30:55 -0400
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I wish the would port HomeSite over to Linux. Now that's an HTML
> editor.
I'm hoping for Macromedia Dreamweaver. Very slick.
Sam Leibowitz
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From: Frank Conte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEWBIE Question: Is there a free database program for Linux
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:50:52 GMT
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Chris Mahmood wrote:
>
> Frank Conte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'm looking for a simple database program that can read a Filemaker Pro
> > or Access or Text delimited or comma delimited file. Is there a good
> > public domain database I can just throw up on my linux machine. I do use
> > startx.
> dozens, depending on what you want to do. Start here:
> http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/linuxlist/linuxlist/linuxlist.html
>
> And I do use cp.
> -ckm
Where do you get a copy of "cp"?
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From: "Sam Leibowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the reasoning behind "stay away from root"?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:38:15 -0400
BSD Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7purl6$1k2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> (Been there, done that..... right????.....(:+}}.....)
>
> (It is a *nix Rite of Passage.....(:+}}.....)
Yesterday, my coworker, a fledgling system administrator, managed to break
DNS for our organization (and a couple dozen domains) for a period of about
fifteen minutes. After we got it back up and running again, I gave her a
big smile.
"Congratulations," I said. "You're now one of us."
- Sam
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From: AngryMob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:01:25 -0700
Technobyte wrote:
> as the record goes i am 14 linux master and code cracker ex-hacker...
> hmm. what i have to say is linux taught me what i know... i am first
> used a computer when i was 9 years old the experience was great even
> though it occured in windows.. but at the age of 10 i got on the net and
> secrectly ordered a linux cd and erased my whole windows hd to put on
> linux but i got a shock i couldnt get on the net was i isntalled and set
> up linux currectly and i thought i was left with a useless piece of shit
> os.. but then i started playing with it useing ms-dos commands i knew
> and the commands were similar so is started to like it more and more and
> i never put windows back on that computer.. then soon i hooked uo my
> internet connection currectly and got on the net.. and from this whole
> experience i learned something that windows could never teach me!
and the ironic thing I notice is that you're using windows 98.... heh
am
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