Linux-Misc Digest #541, Volume #26 Wed, 13 Dec 00 20:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: LILO-Problem after adding a HD (John in SD)
libpcap install problems... ("Svenn Derrick")
Re: Kernel (Glitch)
Restore windows backup under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LINUX MANDRAKE HELP (Daniel Bechard)
Re: Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page??? (Robert Heller)
Re: Mount fat-partition!! (Robert Heller)
Kfirewall message: Ipchains died??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Hard drive crashed; trying to recover ("D. Stimits")
tulip.o plz ("Sudhakar R.")
Re: insmod tulip.o failed on RH 7.0 (Jeffrey Rose)
Re: ramdisk size
Re: "ps -ef" lines truncated on the right (Paul Kimoto)
Dual-head Display and Blackbox WM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: samba and win2k ("Robert L. Klungle")
Re: crontab and 90 minute intervals (Rafael Najera)
Re: tulip.o plz (Jeffrey Rose)
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO-Problem after adding a HD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:09:55 GMT
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:48:24 GMT, "Tauno Voipio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Stefan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I have a running dual-boot box. Windoze 98 on hda1, hda2 and hdb for
>> some Linux-"folders". SuSe Linux 7.0 is on sda1.
>> My CD-Rom is the hdd.
>>
>> Now I would like a Samsung 6 GB drive to the system. (Secondary Master).
>>
>> But whenever I try to connect it into the system LILO fails to start
>> ("LI"). When I unplug the drive everything work fine.
>> /etc/fstab doesn�t contain the hdd (but that shouldn�t matter for LILO
>> (?))
>> I tried to reinstall LILO to solve the problem, I changed the HD�s but
>> to no avail.
>> I would be glad if someone could point me into the right direction.
>> (The SuSE-manual and the manualpages didn�t help me much)
>> If you need more specific information, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Stefan
>
>The problem lies in the BIOS. When you add a second IDE drive to the system,
>the BIOS does not see the SCSI drives anymore: the BIOS knows of two hard
>disk drives with the internal numbers of 0x80 and 0x81. The BIOS numbers the
>drives so that the IDE drives are first. When the second IDE drive is not in
>the numbers are:
>
> 0x80 first IDE drive
> 0x81 first SCSI drive.
>
>When the second IDE drive is put in, the numbers are:
>
> 0x80 first IDE drive
> 0x81 second IDE drive.
If this is the problem, then use the LILO options:
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hdb
bios=0x81
disk=/dev/sda
bios=0x82
to get LILO in step with the BIOS setup.
Remember, LILO uses BIOS calls to load the system. If the BIOS assigns device
codes in a creative manner, LILO cannot guess what they are. TELL lilo what
they are.
--John
>
>The message "LI" means that LILO boot is not capable to read its body
>(/boot/boot.b) from the disk. LILO does not have disk drivers of its own, so
>it has to use BIOS drivers.
>
>Id your BIOS does not have a way to switch drive numbers, consider making a
>small (8-16 MB) partition at the start of the first IDE disk for /boot. (I
>know - the disk may need to be completely rebuilt).
>
>Tauno Voipio
>tauno voipio @ iki fi
>
>
LILO version 21.6 (04-Oct-2000) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: "Svenn Derrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: libpcap install problems...
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:33:39 -0000
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Hi all
slight problem trying to install libpcap in Mandrake 7.2, maybe I am just
not getting it, but I keep getting the following errors in the configure
script, probably due to my not understanding the makefile.in and improperly
configuring it... I have read what little came with the downloaded files,
but not got my head around the syntax...
"syntax error near unexpected token `@(*`"
"dnl @(*) $Header: configure.in,v 1.67 97/07/27 22:16:17 leres Exp $ (LBL)
I'm trying to install Snort as an IDS for testing purposes and if I can't
get the libpcap installed then Snort won't play...
Any ideas?
Cheers
Svenn
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:38:01 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel
John Thompson wrote:
>
> Glitch wrote:
>
> > well, in my judgement we are up to 2.4, whether its beta or not. It does
> > EXIST and it is usable on my laptop.
>
> Sure. In the same sense that Microsoft's "Whistler" exists and
> is usable. If you're a bleeding-edge kind of person and don't
> mind taking chances with a beta release, go for it. But
> regardless, the current stable kernel is still 2.2.18.
ok, currently i think we are up to 2.4.0test12 right? let's assume we
are. Then let's say that Linux officially says that test13 won't be a
test but will be the offical release for 2.4. So, based on that you are
saying that whatever changes were put into official kernel from test12
(maybe a difference of a week in realtime) will make you say it's ok to
use just b/c Linus says its ready, even though it could only be one
upgrade from now u would say its ok? What makes you change your mind so
quickly from one release to the next? Linus? If he had said it was ready
now even after test12 was already released would u come back on here and
say ' I changed my mind. Linus says its ok so I'm gonna use it now'.
Even though 2 hours before Linus could say that you would say you
wouldn't use it. If Linus renamed 2.4.0test12 to 2.4 would that make
you feel any better, whether he said it was offical 2.4 or not?
you people are too picky it seems
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restore windows backup under linux
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:33:23 GMT
Hi,
does anybody here know of a way to restore a backup under linux which
was created under windows using Adaptec ez-scsi (or was it the standard
windows backup ?). The device is a hp c1533a.
I played around with dd a bit and the first invocation (after rewinding
via mt) gives me 512 Bytes beginning with HEADERQIC113. The following
invocation gives a raw-dump with some cleartext data, so I assume I used
hardware compression, but other tapes may be created differently (other
software, other settings).
I tried taper -T scsi, but it says "This is not a taper archive" :(
Any ideas ? I'd hate to install windows just to restore some files.
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From: Daniel Bechard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX MANDRAKE HELP
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:06:13 -0500
Hi!
I'm new at Linux
I had install Corel Linux and I would like to remove it and install
Linux Mandrake 7.2.
How should I do this? Should I delete the Corel Partition and
reformate the disk for Mandrake?
Thank you in advance
LINUX MANDRAKE HELP
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page???
Date: 13 Dec 2000 18:24:15 true
"Dan Krones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:32:00 GMT, wrote :
"K> There is already an index.html file in the directory the conf file is
"K> pointing to. Any other ideas or suggestions?
What is the ownership and protection of index.html? It needs to be
world readable.
Also: are you accessing you directory via a URL like
"http://hostname.domain/~you/" or a URL like "file:/home/you/" ? If
the latter you will *always* get a directory listing, since you are NOT
using the web server this way.
"K>
"K> Thanks for your help!
"K>
"K> -Dan
"K>
"K>
"K>
"K> "Sebastian Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
"K> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
"K> > Dan Krones wrote:
"K> > >
"K> > > Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page???
"K> > >
"K> > > Running Apache 1.3.12. I think I set up the httpd.conf file correctly
"K> to
"K> > > point to my index page. But I just get a directory listing. Any
"K> ideas???
"K> >
"K> > Maybe putting an index.html in the directory helps.
"K> >
"K> > HAND
"K> > seb
"K> >
"K> > --
"K> > -------------------=====#####OOOOOOOO#####=====----c---c----------
"K> > sebastian hans - [EMAIL PROTECTED] `\O/' don't panic
"K> > student of comp sci - technical university of munich \-^-/ ...just RUN
"K> > i'm a .signature virus! copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread
"K>
"K>
"K>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mount fat-partition!!
Date: 13 Dec 2000 18:24:18 true
Flo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:18:24 +0100, wrote :
F> Hi
F> I want to mount a fat partiotion with a directory (daten and musik). to
F> daten should only my account have permission (read,write,execute) to
F> musik should an guest account have only read permission.
F> I dont know how to do this with mount (or can't i do that)
F>
F> How can I solve my problem Please help me.
Since the FAT file system does not implement ownership or protections,
Linux 'fakes' it with mount options:
(from man mount):
uid=value and gid=value
Set the owner and group of all files. (Default: the
uid and gid of the current process.)
umask=value
Set the umask (the bitmask of the permissions that
are not present). The default is the umask of the
current process. The value is given in octal.
F>
F> thx flo
F>
F>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kfirewall message: Ipchains died???
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:24:05 GMT
When using kfirewall, I get the message that "ipchains died" every time
I try to change something. (For example, in turning masquerading on,
or trying to close port 23...)
Ipchains is in my $path (if I type ipchains, the command gets
recognized.) What else could it be that is making kfirewall give me this
error?
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:37:45 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hard drive crashed; trying to recover
Tim Herzog wrote:
>
> Running on an old Pentium, with the original 1.2Gb IDE hard drive and a
> 3.5Gb IDE hard drive that I added later.
>
> Bad news: the first hard drive died.
>
> Good news: I THINK most of the important stuff was on partition(s) on the
> second hard drive, which is still working, to my knowledge. As I recall,
> the first (dead) drive only had boot information and perhaps a swap
> partition.
>
> So I went out and got a replacement drive for the 1.2Gb dead one. This
> time 15Gb (God, hard drives are cheap!), which I installed, so now I have
> a virgin 15Gb and the 3.5Gb drive with most of my stuff on it.
>
> Now I'm ready to reinstall Linux (RedHat v5.2), but here's my question:
Ouch! 5.2 is VERY old. I'm guessing this is a typo, and really is 6.2.
> can I get the installation to recognize the partitions on my second drive
> with their original mount points? That is, without overwriting those
> partitions or directory structures? Unfortunately, I don't remember which
> partitions went on which mount points. fdisk tells me this:
You never have to destroy those partitions. Telling it where to mount is
non-destructive. Telling it to ignore mounting is non-destructive. What
destroys them is if you tell it to format them, or somehow alter them
(mounting does not alter them). Your new install will have no idea where
you mounted them before, but it is irrelevant during the install, except
for convenience.
You will be asked at install time where you want to mount other
partitions. You can tell it to ignore the partitions and wait till later
to mount them. Do a full install on your new drive, and figure out hdc
after you have your system up.
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /tmp/hdc1 1 174 82183+ 92 Unknown
> /tmp/hdc2 175 3503 1572952+ 83 Linux native
> /tmp/hdc3 3504 6832 1572952+ 93 Amoeba
>
> I'm not sure what's what, except hdc2 is probably what I'm most concerned with.
>
> Or, can I just do a shiny new installation on my shiny new drive, and
> (either as part of the installation, or afterwards), mount the original
This is a good way to go.
> partitions at different mount points, then "cp -pr" them over to the fresh
No need to use different mount points, unless you have a reason. But
they don't have to be decided during the install. A mount point is just
an empty directory. The root "/" is special because it is the only one
not mounted in a directory of another. The real trick is you'll have to
decide where to mount them. If it is purely data and programs that are
not part of the system itself, you could simply use mkdir after install
and create the mount points. In the case that these were part of your
system, such as /var/log/, you have a number of options; usually a clean
install is best here, then you mount the old one somewhere temporarily
and copy what you need. In the case of home directories, after install,
you could move the new home stuff to a backup, then with /home/ empty,
set up /etc/fstab to mount /dev/hdc2 there (assuming it is hdc2 that is
home...it is the linux native, and just an example).
> installation? If so, how do I do that? I assume I use mount, but my
> /etc/mnttab file is on one of the partitions I can't access. But I think
> I can get that from a tape backup.
/etc/fstab is what you need. /etc/mtab is created by the kernel, and is
a reflection of what is done now; you don't alter it, you alter fstab or
use mount, and the kernel then alters mtab.
Once you have your machine up, you can create a temporary mount point
(we'll assume hdc2 has /etc/ on it for this), e.g., cd /mnt/, mkdir
temp, mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc2 /mnt/temp, cd temp. You'll then see its
contents and be able to copy, edit, so on.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. This is obviously new territory for me.
>
> --
> Tim Herzog
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From: "Sudhakar R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tulip.o plz
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:37:27 -0500
If anyone has a working version of the tulip.o module for RH 7.0/kernel
2.2.16-22 kindly mail it to me.
I am in desperate need of this.
Thanx
-sudhakar
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From: Jeffrey Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: insmod tulip.o failed on RH 7.0
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:45:01 +0100
"Sudhakar R." wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting my RedHat 7.0 linux box to load the tulip.o
> module for my ethernet card.
>
> On booting i get the following error...
>
> bringing up interface eth0: insmod /...../tulip.o failed
>
> Any help in getting this to work will be highly appreciated
A GREAT solution (REALLY! ;-) :
See http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/leaplist/2000-October/006698.html
Which will also get you here:
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html
... which mentions:
Special instructions for Red Hat 7.0
Red Hat 7.0 has a flawed configuration with their default install. It
uses the header files from an unreleased 2.3.99 kernel, rather than
installing the header files from the kernel that is actually running.
While this likely seemed like a good idea to someone, it makes it
impossible to automatically build kernel modules.
A second problem is that 7.0 provides an experiment version of gcc that
was not intended for public release. The stable version of gcc needed to
correctly compile the kernel has been renamed to kgcc.
The work-around is to substitute kgcc for gcc and to add
-I/usr/src/linux/include on the compile command line when compiling by
hand. The Makefile in the tar file and RPM automatically include this
compile flag, however they cannot automatically use 'kgcc'.
To repeat: this is a flaw that was introduced with Red Hat 7.0. It is a
Red Hat configuration problem, not a driver update distribution bug. The
symptom of this bug is compile error messages such as
tulip.c: In function `tulip_open':
tulip.c:1437: structure has no member named `tbusy'
tulip.c:1438: structure has no member named `start'
...
Hope this "makes your day"!
Jeff
--
"The real reason for UNIX's popularity? Many hacker's feel that UNIX is
the Right Thing -- the One True Operating System. Hence, the development
of Linux by an expanding group of UNIX hackers who want to get their
hands dirty with their own system." - Matt Welsh, "Linux Installation
and Getting Started Guide 2.3" (1994)
Crunch 'em if ya got 'em!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: ramdisk size
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:45:24 GMT
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:20:50 -0500, Edmund C. Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to take this further.
>
>I am trying to set up Linux to run on Network Computers (basically diskless
>workstations). I would like to make a RAM disk of about 32Meg so that I could
>copy often used applications (Netscape) to it so I can run it off of it. However,
>when I try any of the methods mentioned it won't work. It seems that the limit of
>a RAM disk is about 4Meg. Does anyone know how to make a 32Meg (contiguous) RAM
>disk?
Leave your applications you use often open. The pages of them that are used
frequently will be in ram.
--
Remove 'wakawaka' and 'invalid' to e-mail me. You can thank spammers for this
inconvenience.
I didn't do it! Nobody saw anything! You can't prove anything! -- bart
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: "ps -ef" lines truncated on the right
Date: 13 Dec 2000 19:49:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <918uhe$erc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> On Linux Redhat 6.1, when I do a "ps -ef" some process lines are
> truncated because they were started with many options. How can I make
> the lines "wrap" so that I can see each whole process line? I've tried
> "ps -efw" and that doesn't work - I get the same as if I'd done "ps -ef"
> without the "w". Ideas?
_Exactly_ the same? The output isn't wider?
You should be able to see more by adding more w's. (I think--not sure
why--that you get the entire line when there are 3 w's.)
--
Paul Kimoto
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dual-head Display and Blackbox WM
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:42:20 GMT
Hi all,
I've been happily using Blackbox at work, and today scrounged another
monitor and video card (Dell XPS600, ATI Rage 128 something AGP, S3
Virge PCI, two Dell P991 monitors) and got a dual-head system running
under XFree86 4.0.1 using Xinerama.
My problem is the screen is going blank if I don't move the mouse or
hit a key in a short (under a second sometimes - it varies) amount of
time. I only have this problem with Blackbox - tried running Gnome and
E, and it seems to be ok...tried running X without Xinerama, and still
have the problem, so I'm guessing something in Blackbox (0.61.1) is
getting really confused.
Any ideas? Send me some mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks in advance,
Craig
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From: "Robert L. Klungle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: samba and win2k
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:58:54 GMT
Jeff Gerard wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > hi
> > i tried to configure samba on my suse linux 7.0.
> > i got no problems at all with all the windows98 clients, but whatever i do,
> > i can't connect with windows2k professional.
> > i think it has something to do with the security-model...?
> >
>
> In /etc/smb.conf in the [global] secion, you must have:
> encrypt passwords = yes
> in order to use samba with Win2k
In addition, I had to enable "User" on my W2K system before it would allow
access to any linux files.
cheers...bob
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From: Rafael Najera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crontab and 90 minute intervals
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:00:09 GMT
Kevin Porter wrote:
>
> I looked around on the internet and eventually found a format for the
> crontab
> file, but I don't understand how to put in an odd minute interval. Do I
> put in several entries to run at each desired hour/minute combination?
For all cron versions that I've used, you can only specify an
hour/minute/day of the week/day of the month/month combination. That is,
there's no "built-in" way of putting a minute interval per se.
For a 90 minute interval, I would use a couple of entries:
30 0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * yourscript
0 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23 * * * yourscript
I think in newer Linux crons there's a way to shorten the hour field in
this example, instead of the full list you can write something like 1-23/2,
I'm not sure.
Hope it helps,
Rafael.
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From: Jeffrey Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tulip.o plz
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:58:29 +0100
"Sudhakar R." wrote:
>
> If anyone has a working version of the tulip.o module for RH 7.0/kernel
> 2.2.16-22 kindly mail it to me.
>
> I am in desperate need of this.
FOR FUTURE REFERENCE: Try this method:
See http://lists.leap-cf.org/pipermail/leaplist/2000-October/006698.html
Don't forget to check the messages for this problem at:
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html which mentions:
Special instructions for Red Hat 7.0
Red Hat 7.0 has a flawed configuration with their default install. It
uses the header files from an unreleased 2.3.99 kernel, rather than
installing the header files from the kernel
that is actually running. While this likely seemed like a good idea to
someone, it makes it impossible to automatically build kernel modules.
A second problem is that 7.0 provides an experiment version of gcc that
was not intended for public release. The stable version of gcc needed to
correctly compile the kernel
has been renamed to kgcc.
The work-around is to substitute kgcc for gcc and to add
-I/usr/src/linux/include on the compile command line when compiling by
hand. The Makefile in the tar file
and RPM automatically include this compile flag, however they cannot
automatically use 'kgcc'.
To repeat: this is a flaw that was introduced with Red Hat 7.0. It is a
Red Hat configuration problem, not a driver update distribution bug. The
symptom of this bug is compile
error messages such as
tulip.c: In function `tulip_open':
tulip.c:1437: structure has no member named `tbusy'
tulip.c:1438: structure has no member named `start'
...
Jeff
PS *disclaimer* --> Binaries sent to you will have been compiled to work
on the system where it was compiled! There is no gaurantee it will work
for you!! Again, check the notes [URLs] above!!!
--
"The real reason for UNIX's popularity? Many hacker's feel that UNIX is
the Right Thing -- the One True Operating System. Hence, the development
of Linux by an expanding group of UNIX hackers who want to get their
hands dirty with their own system." - Matt Welsh, "Linux Installation
and Getting Started Guide 2.3" (1994)
Crunch 'em if ya got 'em!
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