Linux-Misc Digest #541, Volume #18 Sun, 10 Jan 99 01:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David H. McCoy)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (William Burrow)
Re: Telnet In, FTP In, Etc (Jeff Grossman)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("Poison Ivan")
Re: How do I partition a large HD under Redhat 5.2? (Jacob Langford)
dump program for Slackware (mct1)
Re: Connection refused from remote X-Windows (Vincent Zweije)
any cheap Synchronous serial cards for Linux ? (Luis Forra)
Re: ParPort Scanner - Possible or not? (Gary Momarison)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: Q: Another one on WP8 Linux (Michael Perry)
Missing memory? Not reading ("(BXTC)")
Re: how to install rpm on slackware (Mike Werner)
DOSEMU and the CDROM drive (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Setting Up Ethernet Card (Sydney Weidman)
Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager? (brian moore)
[Q] script to start suid prog (Vladik)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Perry Pip)
Re: Where is the PATH (Ed Young)
Re: StarOffice 50 key? (Vladik)
Re: Q: Another one on WP8 Linux (Vladik)
Shared libraries and ld.so - Upgrade? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:35:08 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy) writes:
>
>> >But I think it is pretty clear that if you are using Win9x/NT, you
>> >aren't doing anything critical.
>>
>> Only about 8 days into the new year and this comment takes the lead in
>> the narrowminded post race.
>
>OK, name something critical that's being done on Win9x. Critical
>meaning it can't be done without and having the computer down for a
>day would be a disaster, or having the room containing the computer
>catch fire and destroy everything in it would be an unrecoverable
>distater (software and data disaster that is).
Make up your mind. The first person claimed that Win9x/NT, you did see
the NT, didn't you, is not being used for anything critical.
That is not correct.
--
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David H. McCoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 10 Jan 1999 01:25:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 08 Jan 1999 22:13:08 -0800,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William> provides users with two email IDs. One for general email
> William> use, the second for use with USENET messages as a valid
> William> reply address. The client software is somehow smart
> William> enough to know that one of the email address is
> William> exclusively for replies from USENET.
>
>You already can do this with `plus' addressing. See my address above?
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- if I have a need, I can sort on that
>plus. Plus addressing is legal and effective, providing you're
>willing to do the work necessary to sort.
Hmmm, this is convenient, didn't know it existed. Might use that instead. ;)
It is not immediately clear to me how to sort out spam this way with no
extra software (procmail is a given here -- I could just put all the mail
with the plus addressing in a special folder for perusal of subject lines
from memory). Any further hints?
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Telnet In, FTP In, Etc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:31:36 GMT
Yes to all of those. But when I telnet, it connects, but never
displays a login prompt.
John Robicheau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jeff Grossman wrote:
>
>> Okay, I tried that just to make a quick connection to see if I could
>> make it work. But it did not. I typed in
>>
>> xhost + 192.168.168.1
>>
>> and it gave me the error,
>>
>> xhosts: Unable to open display ""
>>
>> That ip address is of the machine that I am using to telnet into. The
>> Linux machine is using ip 192.168.168.100.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> Jeff Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>Hey there,
>
> Did you edit the inetd file in the /etc dir?
>
> You have to make sure that the FTP and TELNET services are "uncommented"
>that is : that there is no '#' in fron of them in the listing.
>
> After uncommenting them... save the file.
>
> Also make sure that you have user accounts to log in with. You can do
>that usin linuxconf. Or the adduser command as 'root'.
>
>- John
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Poison Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:18:41 -0800
Perry Pip wrote in message ...
>>In what sense are consumers overpaying for software? Most consumers get
>>Win98 for about $90 (the retail upgrade price). If I remember right, OEMs
>>pay about $70. Compared to most popular software, this is pretty darn
cheap.
>>Especially considering that an OS enables the user to run all his other
>>software.
>
>READ my link you dumb ass
Does your webpage have a lot of cuss words and insults on it?
People who use ad hominem attacks are bad debaters. Based on what I've seen
so far, I can only conclude your webpage would be a waste of my time.
I invite you to prove me wrong.
>The tables show MS prices are well above competitors
I said consumers are paying a lot less for Windows than they value Windows,
and therefore they are happy. Most consumers believe they are *under*-paying
for Windows.
>>So I suspect Microsoft is keeping the price of Windows artificially *low*.
>>The low prices are how Microsoft maintains its monopoly. Artificially low
>>prices make for very happy consumers, but competing OS producers obviously
>>hate it.
>
>Bullshit. I pay $2 for Linux.
What does the price of Linux have to do with the value Windows provides its
users? They are completely unrelated.
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From: Jacob Langford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How do I partition a large HD under Redhat 5.2?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:22:41 +0000
Ilya wrote:
> How do I partition a large HD under Redhat 5.2? By that, I mean
> how many partitons do I make and how big do I make them. the HD
> is 9.1GB.
>
> Please post.
Under most circumstances it is a crime to do anything other thanmake
*one* partition on a hard drive (excepting swap space).
If there is an error on a filesystem, it generally renders one or more
files useless, not the whole filesystem. If the disk crashes, the
partitions
are *all* uselss. So in terms of losing data, multiple partitions gets
you nothing.
What about security? If you are running a machine that is mission
critical, i.e. any loss of service on that machine will cost lives or
money,
you might think about security carefully. When a partition fills up,
your system may crash. Which partitions are publicly accessible? The
user partitions, and any partitions that are logged to, mailed to, etc.
If your system is not mission critical, make one partition and forget
about it. If someone fills the entire drive with garbage, you erase the
garbage and call it a day. No harm done.
Why not multiple partitions? You'll know as soon as you wish you
had partitioned it differently. You just need a bit more space in root
for that extra software, or a bit more space in /usr to dump that audio
CD. Think about it.
So how should your 9G drive be partitioned if it will be the only
drive in a Linux box?
Add twice physical memory as a swap partition.
Make the rest of the disk a Linux native partition and mount is as /.
Jacob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: mct1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dump program for Slackware
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 03:08:17 GMT
i'm trying to find / and config dump for backup's on Linux, anyone know
where i might find a source(s) for this....? I have doc's, but nothing
specific to Linux (:>(
Thanksabunch!
Pat Donahue
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Connection refused from remote X-Windows
Date: 9 Jan 1999 15:14:52 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Efflandt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|| On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:35:56 -0500, Jim Orfanakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|| >I am using X-Win32 on a Win95 PC trying to connect to a RedHat 5.1 system.
|| >Whenever I try to start an X application I get connection refused after I
|| >enter my userid and password. I tried rsh as well as rexec.
This I do not understand: what do you need your username and password
for when starting an X application?
|| >If I telnet in, then start the application sending it back to the remote
|| >pc via "-display" it works. If log in directly to the RedHat 5.1 server
|| >and send the application back to the remote pc via "-display" it works.
Then what's the problem?
|| >I have open the system up in /etc/securetty and
|| >/etc/security/access.conf but no luck.
These don't have anything to do with it, as far as I can see.
|| You don't mention if you used xhost. See 'man xhost'. Some people
|| recommend a more secure method, but this should do for a home or office
|| LAN.
True.
And then you forget about xhost, since it's running smoothly now.
And then your LAN grows to 100 users whom you don't know.
And then you upgrade your LAN and get it connected to Internet.
Plan for the future, I'd say.
Ciao. Vincent.
--
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | "If you're flamed in a group you
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/> | don't read, does anybody get burnt?"
[Xhost should be taken out and shot] | -- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luis Forra)
Subject: any cheap Synchronous serial cards for Linux ?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:36:34 GMT
I need to buy several synchronous cards for Linux (EIA-232 or
X.21bis).
We have 3 lines with 64K synchronous modems to setup a private wan.
I believe that at 64K there is no need for smart cards, a card based
in Zilog SCC all that I need, I'm lookin for cards that costs less
then 200$ (EUR 171).
Anybody knows were can I buy these cards ?
Any help is wellcome.
Regards
Luis Forra
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ParPort Scanner - Possible or not?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 18:39:36 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am just wondering if it is possible to get a parellel port scanner working
> under Linux? I can't seem to find any documentation on the subject. The
> scanner that I have is a cheap-o Umax Astra 300p, that is not often used.
> But when I do want to use it is have to reboot the system an run it under
> windows to get the scan and then reboot. This is one of the last pieces of
> hardware that I don't have working in Linux and I am curious to know if it is
> even possible or it I will need to ditch the scanner that I have for a SCSI
> scanner?
A very few p-port scanners work; yours ain't one of them I'm quite sure.
Unless you might get it to work within WINE. There's reports of someone
getting another p-port scanner to work that way. Check out
http://www4.infi.net/~cpinkham/sane/parallel_under_wine.html
--
Linux Info: Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:46:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Morris allegedly wrote:
>>Last I heard, their Linux team never finished. They seem to be putting only a
>>half-hearted effort into it :(
>
>Hmm.... too bad. I don't understand that. <sigh>
It seems their incompetent managers keep firing the programmers before they
have time to finish anything. I think they're on their second teams for
ALL the ports, not just Linux.
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself the
difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts that are
not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Q: Another one on WP8 Linux
Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:46:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:51:49 +0100, Nicolas Trebst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I downloaded WP8 some time ago, the portioned files and a German
>localization.
>
>I successfully (?) installed the WP8 on my Linux box. But, if I
>doubleclick on
>a graphic object in order to change it, I get an error message
>
> "This feature is only available in commercial versions of WP for
>Linux"
>
>This feature worked perfectly in the July's Release Candidate. All the
>example
>files and cliparts packed with the demo are also missing.
>
>Has this happened to anyone else or did I do something wrong during
>installation?
>Or do I have to buy the $50 WP Personal Edition package to get rid of
>that?
>
Mine does the same thing. I also ordered the $50 commercial version from
linuxmall. We shall see... I think the demos and clipart were stripped
from the download version.
--
Michael E. Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "(BXTC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Missing memory? Not reading
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 18:53:38 -0500
Hi,
I am running RedHat 5.1 3.0.34 and I had 64m ram running on a P166MMX.
I recently took 36m ram more out of another machine and installed it
into this one. When I boot it reads 96m ram so I figured it was all
working fine. I was disappointed when I didn't see any performance
enhancement. Recently I ran top and saw that it only showed 64
available. Then I ran free and it showed the same. Does anyone know
what I have done wrong/or didn't do? Do I have to read some kind of
programs to tell linux I have more memory than when I installed it? This
is my first memory upgrade in linux so I am working on little
experience. Thanks for your time/and hopefully your response,
--
Towering genius disdains a beaten path. It seeks regions hitherto
unexplored.
Abraham Lincoln
(BXTC) ICQ# 23289202
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to install rpm on slackware
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 21:45:02 -0500
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/RPM+Slackware will get
you on the right track. It installs very easily - as long as you follow
that HOWTO carefully - and appears to function properly on my Slack 3.4
system. I have not tested extensively yet. Whether it is worth it or
not, I don't yet have an opinion.
--
Mike Werner KA8YSD | "Where do you want to go today?"
ICQ# 12934898 | "As far from Redmond as possible!"
AIM Screen Name Reznaeous |
'91 GS500E |
Morgantown WV |
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From: Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DOSEMU and the CDROM drive
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 22:39:49 -0600
I am using DOSEMU v0.98.2 and have it working. However, I am not able to
get games running that require that you have the CD inserted. IOW, I am
getting a message along the lines of "You must insert the CD into the
CDROM to play this game." I used lredir to mount the cdrom under the
drive letter that it uses in DOS to no effect. Anyone have any ideas how
to solve this?
One more problem is that the keyboard doesn't work in some programs. For
instance, if I want to play acid tetris (the all time best tetris game),
I am unable to input anything and have to kill the window. Solutions? I
read the documentation and tried to allow direct access to the keyboard.
This didn't help.
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ICQ 6644253
Help Crack Government Encryption: http://www.distributed.net
What's another word for thesaurus?
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From: Sydney Weidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Setting Up Ethernet Card
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:21:42 GMT
Jeff Grossman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having some trouble setting up my ethernet card for Linux. I am
> using Red Hat version 5.2.
>
> When I issue the following commands I can ping out and in, with no
> problems.
>
> insmod tulip.o
> ifconfig eth0 192.168.168.100
> route add default eth0
>
> I can then use the ethernet card fine. But once I restart the
> machine, it is no longer configured. How do I fix this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> ---
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Did you try just putting those commands into your /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
script? That should work, I think.
I don't have those lines in my rc.sysinit script, but my
/etc/conf.modules has this line:
alias eth0 3c509
which looks suspiciously like it does something to initialize my NIC.
I'm no expert, though.
Good luck.
Regards,
Syd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:13:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich) wrote:
> In article <773mqa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > first, the cost is the last thing a home user will look at.
> > the proof is simple. Linux has been free for how many years now? 9 years?
> > ok, let say 3 years just to be fair. (we have to give Linux some slack).
>
> Bob reveals ignorance of Linux -- he does not know when Linux originated.
>
> Or is he just trying to provoke flames?
>
> > This thing has been free for 3 years, and yet %90 of home users still use
> > windows and applications written for windows. I see them at Fry's each day,
> > buying windows based shrink wrapped applications and games like crazy, boxes
> > and boxes of them. They leave and yet come back for more. and none of it
> > is free!
>
> That's because it takes a while for innovations to spread. Linux only
> became anywhere near well-known last year; it's still largely a
> computer-geek OS, though there have been important strides in making it
> more end-user-friendly.
>
> --
> Loren Petrich
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> And a fast train
>
from troll to trollee, if it looks and acts like flamebait, it is.....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 05:27:49 GMT
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 08:24:21 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm still not quite sure what Gnome does in the world of the graphic
> user interface. Right now I use Afterstep, So I'll use it for an
> example. Afterstep uses something called modules examples of these
> modules are winlist (a windows 95 bar clone), pager (navigate and
> manipulate several workspaces) wharf and zwarf (program launchers).
>
> Is gnome more Like a set of modules? it's interesting, because on an
> abstract lever you can create a x-based program launcher that knows
> nothing about your desktop, where as if you want to create a pager or
> winlist then the module and the desktop would need to communicate. It
> seams that the second example is what I thing of when I read about
> Gnome. Afterstep also traps keyboard events for it's own use. like
> alt-tab alt-cursor-keys. Does Gnome work at this level?
No. That would be the job of a WindowManager.
GNOME is merely a collection of applications designed to have a
consistent user interface and to work with each other. (Not knocking
that at all: it's something Unix has needed for a long time.)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Vladik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] script to start suid prog
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:47:24 -0500
Hello,
I cannot figure out how to write a script to start a program
from my user account when a program requires root priv. to start.
Basically I use XISP to connect to internet, this front end
uses ppp underneath, every time I log in to my system, I have
to first su and then start xisp. I would rather have
a small command I just type (or better yet click an icon) and
it would connect.
Thanks in advance for any info,
Vladislav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:39:27 GMT
On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:18:41 -0800, Poison Ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>People who use ad hominem attacks are bad debaters. Based on what I've seen
>so far, I can only conclude your webpage would be a waste of my time.
Bad debater?? I made a point *and* provided backing evidence and you
replied with a counterpoint and *no* backing evidence.
>I said consumers are paying a lot less for Windows than they value Windows,
>and therefore they are happy. Most consumers believe they are *under*-paying
>for Windows.
Most consumers don't what they're paying when they buy a OEM pre-install.
Most businesses who do know what they're paying know their getting stung.
Furthermore What consumers believe and what is true are two different
things. If you know the first thing about economics you know that a free
market has both a supply and a demand curve. The report I linked you to
clearly demonstrates that no supply curve exists in the OS market today.
That means a monopoly condition exists and customers pay more than would
if the market were competitive. That costs them whether they know it or
not.
The report also shows consumers don't realize they're being coerced into
purchasing more hardware than they need.
>>Bullshit. I pay $2 for Linux.
>
>
>What does the price of Linux have to do with the value Windows provides its
>users?
It shows what the OS market would bear if there were a supply curve, i.e.
if it were competitive. That's the price consumers could be getting that
value for.
You may say consumers are happy with what they have. I'm saying they'd be
even happier if the market were competitive, because they'd have more
money to spend on other things. The report clearly demonstrates that. Of
course, you need some basic education in econimics to understand the
report.
--
Show the code....or hit the road.
Perry Piplani www.open-systems.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] perrypip.netservers.com
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is the PATH
Date: 10 Jan 1999 05:40:56 GMT
To '.bash_profile' in your home directory
add or modify the PATH line:
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:/usr/games:.
Jorge wrote:
>
> Guys, and girls of course, can one of you tell me which file I have to
> use to add a new directory to the path? Like in in the dark time of DOS
> we used AUTOEXEC.BAT, I know that there is a file in Linux where the
> path is specified.
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From: Vladik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 50 key?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:56:23 -0500
Mark Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rob wrote:
> > To be honist I really found staroffice to be pretty bad and would of
> > been extremly miffed if I had payed for it. Its got all the features of
> > Its M$ counterpart, i just could not do any real work on it because it
> > crashed or locked up every 5 minuetes...May of been because I buggered
> > up my first installation of it, so may try it again sometime.
> >
> > Has anyone else had good/bad experiences of it?
>
> Hmmmmm, you should check your installation. I have been pounding on
> both StarOffice 5.0 and WordPerfect 8.0 under SuSE 5.3.
>
> Both are working great; I am trying to decide which one to go with,
> but my StarOffice 5.0 installation seems rock solid.
>
> -Mark
>
> -- Mark Watson, consultant and author of 11 books on AI, Java, C++.
> -- http://www.markwatson.com for Open Source (Java, NLPserver, etc.)
Hi, I have also StarOffice installed and when compared with
WordPerfect 8 it wins hands down in performance and features I am
interested in.
StarOffice is a lot large program, takes more memory and time to come
up but ones it is up -- it is *significantly* faster in doc handling
then WP8. Specifically, when I scroll from one page to another
WP8 constantly redraws the screen while StarOffice switches to the
next page instantenuously. Also StarOffice shows graphics, bullets, tables,
footnotes, etc in MSWord 97 docs easily while WP8 just berely shows the
text and skips a lot of other things (thouse things are important to
me because all the docs at work are in Word 97 format and have to
read a lot of them).
So overall I am happy with SOffice, I would like however, to be more modular,
slimmer and some how not require that stupid Soffice desktop (I happy with
the way Window maker look and do not want to see another Start button on
my screen that takes 10MB of RAM)
Vladislav
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From: Vladik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Another one on WP8 Linux
Date: 10 Jan 1999 00:58:26 -0500
Demos and clipart are disabled in the free version
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) writes:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:51:49 +0100, Nicolas Trebst
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I downloaded WP8 some time ago, the portioned files and a German
> >localization.
> >
> >I successfully (?) installed the WP8 on my Linux box. But, if I
> >doubleclick on
> >a graphic object in order to change it, I get an error message
> >
> > "This feature is only available in commercial versions of WP for
> >Linux"
> >
> >This feature worked perfectly in the July's Release Candidate. All the
> >example
> >files and cliparts packed with the demo are also missing.
> >
> >Has this happened to anyone else or did I do something wrong during
> >installation?
> >Or do I have to buy the $50 WP Personal Edition package to get rid of
> >that?
> >
> Mine does the same thing. I also ordered the $50 commercial version from
> linuxmall. We shall see... I think the demos and clipart were stripped
> from the download version.
>
> --
>
> Michael E. Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Shared libraries and ld.so - Upgrade?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 05:35:43 GMT
I am currently running Slackware-3.4 on a libc5 system (PII 333Mhz), and
recently upgraded to ld.so-1.9.9. I have noticed a peculiar behavior since
doing this. I was trying to upgrade my libXpm to a newer version (from
libXpm.so.4.3 to libXpm.so.4.11).
I shut down to console, installed the new libXpm and header libraries (binary
format tarball), which removed libXpm.so and libXpm.so.4, and linked them to
the new library libXpm.so.4.11.
Lo and behold, after running ldconfig, the new links were destroyed, and the
old were restored. I tried this again, but re-booted before running ldconfig,
and much to my dismay they were overwritten again.
So finally I removed the links, deleted the old libXpm.so.4.3, relinked,
rebooted, and finally the new ones were being used.
As I recall, it was *never* this difficult before the upgrade. Is this a fix
of a previous bug (i.e. letting this be done without a reboot), a change in
the way things are being done, or a bug?
And as an aside, say I have the following: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan
5 07:09 libXpm.so -> libXpm.so.4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jan 5 07:09
libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.3 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 55788 May 28 1995
libXpm.so.4.3
I notice that running ldconfig does not appear to look at libXpm.so, but only
libXpm.so.4. Is there a reason for this? Is the libbXpm.so file unused?
Any information, or pointer to information on this, would be appreciated.
Allan Wittkopf
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