Linux-Misc Digest #566, Volume #21 Sat, 28 Aug 99 03:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: fsck.ext2 won't fix this... (experts please apply) (Tim Moore)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? ("Max Reason")
Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux (kristian ragndahl)
Re: Upgrading to gtk+-1.2.3-2 (Wayne Power)
Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux (Leonard Evens)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? ("Max Reason")
Re: Best language for graphical apps? ("Max Reason")
Re: COMPLETE system LOCKUP Mandrake 6 (Computer)
Re: MP3 Player (Keith Wright)
Viewer for multi-page faxes needed ("M. Leo Cooper")
try replacing inetd(8), Re: telnet connects, but 'closed by foreign host' b4 prompt
(Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: procreation and Choice ("Gabriel")
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Andrew Gray)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" ("Gabriel")
Re: POP3 server. ("Luca Satolli (KaBooM)")
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" ("Gabriel")
Re: VMware - wow! (Rod Roark)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Jim Hill)
What's the difference between glibc and libc? (Andrew Gray)
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:09:16 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fsck.ext2 won't fix this... (experts please apply)
badblocks(8)
--
timothymoore "Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
bigfoot WS Burroughs.
com
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From: "Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:46:39 -0000
Wolfram Gloger wrote in message ...
>"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> XBasic also is not Free Software
>>> (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html). you can't modify
>>> and redistribute it, and I'm not sure source is even available.
>>>
>>> if you want to write Free Software, life will be much easier for your
>>> users if you use tools that are Free Software, such as tcl, perl, tk,
>>> gtk, fltk, wxWindows, STk, etc.
>>
>> I am sorry if your understanding of "free" is different than mine.
>> To me, if I can get something at no cost, it is free. Furthermore,
>> you can freely distribute the source and executable code for any
>> application you write in XBasic. If the distinctions you mention
>> are important to you, that's fine for you and everyone who has
>> the same priorities. But not everyone shares them with you,
>> and you cannot expect to redefine words and have everyone
>> else on earth conform to them.
>
> Words are practically meaningless without context. These are Linux
> newsgroups. Everything that is considered part of the Linux system
> is supposed to be `free' at least in the sense of `freedom to modify
> and improve'; not everyone but the vast majority of Linux users and
> (to an even larger degree) Linux developers share this view. This is
> also perceived to be one of the major strengths of freeware as opposed
> to software that simply doesn't cost money. So you shouldn't be
> surprised if you advocate non-free (in the sense just described)
> software and people point at the many available really free
> alternatives.
I spend my time and effort inventing and developing products,
not keeping up with endless attempts to redefine the meanings
of words and create niches. I consider the means you propose
for expressing ideas with language inefficient and impractical.
Though I could list many reasons, just consider the topic at hand,
namely XBasic, for purposes of illustration. Compatible
implementations of XBasic are available for Linux and Windows.
Both cost zero, and both can be downloaded from the same
web-pages. Are you saying I have to formulate my sentences
in two different sub-dialects to discuss two implementations of a
single application? Are you implying that every special-interest
group should redefine a bunch of words so people with less exposure
to that interest-group cannot effectively communicate? The whole
point of language is to let people communicate with each other,
and that depends on having common meanings. Sure, you can
nag people endlessly and eventually get them to adopt
yet-another-niche-meaning for purposes of dealing with
yet-another-special-interest group. But that's nuts - especially
in a case like XBasic for Windows vs XBasic for Linux where
the niches are so close. Should people have to learn a new lingo,
a new subdialect, for every niche and special-interest-group in
order to communcate effectively with its [die-hard] members?
Yes, some special-interest groups DO adopt new non-standard
definitions, and doing so has become a political weapon to
confuse and misdirect its "enemies" - make them appear to be
saying something different than they intend - make them seem
mean, nasty, nuts, unworth of consideration. But such policy is
beneath Linux advocates in my opinion, or should be.
Why should I have to describe the availability status of two
compatible implementations of XBasic in different terms
depending on the programmer I talk to? Why should I need
to inquire about what mix of specialized-subdialects a person
prefers before I formulate my sentences? How can I even do
such a thing when I communicate to many people at once,
each of whom may assume or adopt a different mix of
specialized-subdialects, many of which I am not even aware?
Why is plain language practical? Because most people can
understand what is meant. And because it doesn't cause
people who are natural friends and allies to snip at each other
and act like the opposite. What a waste!
Incidentally, when I read your paragraph, I am left with all sorts
of questions about what you mean. You say "everything that is
considered part of the Linux system is supposed to be 'free'".
Do you consider every program that runs on Linux to be "part
of the Linux system"? I have no way of knowing without buying
a non-existent (and certainly non-standard and disputed)
Linux Lexicon. What does "open source" mean? Is that a
synonym for "free" or "freeware" or do they mean different
things to you (and others)? Hey, I think Linux is great and
I much prefer to program in Linux than Windows any day
of the week. And I think the way Linux is developed and
maintained is cool and amazing - though I am ignorant
of how it is held together and kept coherent in practice.
But it doesn't mean every other paradigm is evil. Gads!
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From: kristian ragndahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux
Date: 27 Aug 1999 20:09:43 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lee, says...
>Do you know any software will allow Windows NT apps run under RedHat Linux
>6.0? Any instruction is highly appreciated.
http://www.winehq.com
http://www.vmware.com
--
kristian ragndahl
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From: Wayne Power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading to gtk+-1.2.3-2
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:42:14 -0400
Andrew Commons wrote:
> Has anyone upgraded from gtk+-1.0.6-3 (and glib, from the RedHat 5.2
> distribution) to gtk+-1.2.3-2 (and glib) using the rpm files sourced via
> the gtk web site and still had everything (such as GIMP) working
> afterwards?
I have RH 5.2 and upgraded glib, gtk and gimp... but by fetching the
sources from a gnu mirror and compiling them, not an rpm file. I used
the rpm command only to remove the original versions.
The installs have to be done in order (glib, gtk, gimp). The default
install
path is /usr/local, so I needed to edit /etc/ld.so.conf, add /usr/local/lib,
and
rerun ldconfig after installing glib. ldconfig must be run again after
installing
gtk and before making gimp. The configure scripts for gtk and gimp bombed
because they could not find the shared libraries until ldconfig had rebuilt
/etc/ld.so.cache.
> I forced the upgrade using rpm, then manually rebuilt symbolic links to
> make GIMP happy only to be eventually confronted with an undefined
> symbol from GIMP, gtk_accelerator_table_set_mod_mask, at which point
> I reverted to the RedHat 5.2 versions.
The nature of your error looks suspiciously similar. In your case, you may
have
only needed to run ldconfig after the installation. Just a guess.
> Polite suggestions welcome :-)
Polite corrections welcome :-)
--wmp
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:36:31 -0500
"Lee, Joey" wrote:
>
> Greeting
>
> Do you know any software will allow Windows NT apps run under RedHat Linux
> 6.0? Any instruction is highly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> JL
You would need an NT emulator, something I've never heard of.
However, many people speak highly of vmware, which is a
supervisory program allowing you to switch redaily between
different operating systems.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:07:16 -0000
Stephan Houben wrote in message ...
>"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I am sorry if your understanding of "free" is different than mine.
>> To me, if I can get something at no cost, it is free. Furthermore,
>> you can freely distribute the source and executable code for any
>> application you write in XBasic. If the distinctions you mention
>> are important to you, that's fine for you and everyone who has
>> the same priorities. But not everyone shares them with you,
>> and you cannot expect to redefine words and have everyone
>> else on earth conform to them.
>
> Actually, the distinction mentioned is recognized by almost anyone
> on the comp.os.linux.* hierarchy. I base this fact on the numerous
> threads that have discussed whether some product X or license Y
> could be considered "Free" (sometimes "Free" in the "Free Speech")
> sense. So the "general use" in this newsgroup is certainly not zero-cost.
>
> Bottom line: you are the one who is redefining words here.
> Greetings,
> Stephan
I respectfully disagree. Failing to know that someone else
unnecessarily redefined familiar words without my knowledge
DOES NOT constitute ME redefining words. I do not have time
to learn dozens of constantly shifting sub-dialects in order to
communicate with people doing different things. Furthermore,
it is inherently IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to formulate language
to communicate ideas to large audiences of people with
diverse backgrounds if people in each group redefine normal
everyday words. And hey, we are not talking about extremely
diverse here either - same kind of people (programmers),
exact same language (XBasic), two different operating systems
(Linux and Windows). If you extrapolate the consequences of
constantly shifting niche-dialects generally, you end up with
nobody understanding anything, and everyone thinking and
acting like "it's us against them", and people arguing endlessly
and needlessly about nothing. Eventually you end up with a
society run by people who can say anything they want and
later spin anything to meant anything else. Sound familiar?
Frankly, I don't have time to infer new lexicons every time
I want to say something to someone. So I'll continue to rely
on simple plain language. I mean no offense, I'm just busy.
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From: "Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:11:29 -0000
Stan Barr wrote in message ...
>On 27 Aug 1999 16:51:15 +0200, Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I am sorry if your understanding of "free" is different than mine.
>>> To me, if I can get something at no cost, it is free. Furthermore,
>>> you can freely distribute the source and executable code for any
>>> application you write in XBasic. If the distinctions you mention
>>> are important to you, that's fine for you and everyone who has
>>> the same priorities. But not everyone shares them with you,
>>> and you cannot expect to redefine words and have everyone
>>> else on earth conform to them.
>>
>>Actually, the distinction mentioned is recognized by almost anyone
>>on the comp.os.linux.* hierarchy. I base this fact on the numerous
>>threads that have discussed whether some product X or license Y
>>could be considered "Free" (sometimes "Free" in the "Free Speech")
>>sense. So the "general use" in this newsgroup is certainly not
>>zero-cost.
>>
>>Bottom line: you are the one who is redefining words here.
>
> My dictionary begins its definition of Free with:
> "adj, not subject to external constraints or domination"
> as in "freedom". Only much later on, toward the end, does
> it mention "without expense" - so the former would appear to
> be the main meaning, with "free lunch" as a subsiduary meaning.
> So as far as I can see, the comp.os.linux.* meaning is
> perfectly correct.....and no-one is redefining anything!
Okay, now inanimate "standards" or "objects" like Linux
have individual human rights - "freedom". How brilliant!
Obviously you have the right meaning. How dumb of me!
Gee, where do I go to get my "freedom"?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Computer)
Subject: Re: COMPLETE system LOCKUP Mandrake 6
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 04:14:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>This is my second post on this, I appologize, but I've had a new install
>of Mandrake Linux for three days and had two system lockups! What
>gives? They both happened with netscape open and when it locks, it
>locks hard. No mouse, no keyboard, magic sysrq doesn't even attempt to
>work, can't telnet in from another machine, nothing.
>Can anyone shed some light on this? I just don't get it. It seems like
>a netscape problem but it locks the whole system.
Well, I've been having the same hard lock problem. I have learned
that sysrq+s does do something that helps when I re-boot in that I
don't have to run fsck after the hard lock. Also after that sysrq+s I
then use sysrq+b to reboot.
The lockups also have occured for me using just kvirc, or just opening
a term window and starting up midnight commander and it will lock as
soon as I go to maximize the term window.
I've also upgraded all the rpm's to no avail. Romnet support is
totally usless and states they only support the installation! Well
isn't this a f#@$%&g installation problem?
I do notice that during the bootup sequience, two strange things
occur. The system detects a PS/2 port (I have none,) and my HD that
is dedicated to Linux states that it has a 0 cache (this is probably
true.)
Does anyone think that either of these situations could be causing the
problem?
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From: Keith Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,redhat.general
Subject: Re: MP3 Player
Date: 28 Aug 1999 01:27:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip W. Darnowsky) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Using Red Hat 6.0
> : AMD K6 233
> : 96 MB of ram
>
> : Trying to find some way to play my mp3's and nothing is working does anyone
> : have any suggestions on getting them to work?
>
> I'd suggest using some MP3 playing software.
No, no! First a soundcard, then software.
--
-- Keith Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com>
--- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---
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From: "M. Leo Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Viewer for multi-page faxes needed
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:51:12 -0700
I need a viewer, running under Linux, of course, for multi-page faxes. I'm
using the free efax.com fax service, and they deliver faxes as attachments
to e-mail in '.tif' image form. This is fine, except for one thing...
The graphics viewers for Linux - xv, Image Magick, the gimp - all
display only the first page of the fax. Even the 'fax view' command of
the efax package does the same (it uses xv for displaying). The only
software I've found for Linux that displays all pages is "SwiftView",
by Northern Development Group, but this is proprietary, closed source,
and expensive (boo, boo).
Does anyone know of any ***Open Source*** tif viewers for Linux that will
display *all* the pages of a received fax?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: try replacing inetd(8), Re: telnet connects, but 'closed by foreign host' b4
prompt
Date: 28 Aug 1999 05:39:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Martin wrote:
>Can you telnet to localhost (127.0.0.1) and is the ervice allowed in
>inetd.conf ?
>
>matt shobe wrote:
>>
>> Telnet from anywhere has suddenly gone pear-shaped for my new install
>> of Mandrake 6.0. (it used to work fine.) Whether I telnet to my local
>> IP while logged on at the console, or try from some other machine on
>> the net, the result is the same:
On my Debian 1.3 and 2.0 systems, every few months, inetd would
go into a mode where it would accept connections and then immediately
close them. All services were affected: in.telnetd, in.ftpd,
Exim's smtpd and qmail-smtpd (via tcp-environ...) chargen, you name it.
The daemon doesn't exit, just seems to forget how to invoke servers.
Both machines host political Web content and attract script kiddies,
Winnukers, etc, so the inetd failures may follow some kind of
denail of service attack.
I eventually decided the inetd(8) that comes with Debian is broken.
I replaced it with D J Bernstein's tcpserver from
ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/ucspi-tcp.html
Haven't been running that long enough to see if it's a fix.
Cameron
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: procreation and Choice
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:35:10 -0400, Yury Donskoy wrote:
>Yes, it is irresponsible. I don't know where the 80% came from, but when a
>family provides for it's children with food, shelter and love, than they have
>done all is required of them. Anything more, and they're heroes.
>Those who lose their jobs after procreating and are therefore not able to
>provide, are not in the same position as those who produce children only to
>increase their monthly welfare checks. The former should be helped, and the
>latter cut off.
Should is a very strong world, often used and equally often
useless. Cut off
their checks, have no remorse. One day their cut off
children will cut off the
throat of your "responsibly provided" children. I will be
sad, but I won't be
outraged, because it is an old story, where there is no
common humanity
the word "crime" is also meaningless.
Gabriel
=======================================================
Gabriel
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From: Andrew Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:58:18 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Knott wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> pat zink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Floyd Davidson wrote:
> >
> >> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:
> >> >>>>Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>>>Chris wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Is this the same Barrow, Alsaka that's the Northernmost city in
> >> >>>>>> America?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>No. Barrow (which is the northermost city in the US) is not the
> >> >>>>>one in America. That would go to Alert, Canada, (if we can call
> >> >>>>>these cities...) which is way north of the (magnetic) north
> >> >>>>>pole.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Alert, Canada??? I've never heard of it!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It's a radar base at the most northern tip of Canada, and about as far
> >> >>>north as you can get anywhere in the world and still have solid land
> >> >>>under your feet. There's only a very small bit of land further north
> >> >>>than it anywhere. Take a look at a globe sometime and you'll find it
> >> >>>right beside the north end of Greenland, about 500 miles south of the
> >> >>>north pole.
>
> >so what kernal internals do you recommend for janes junkies --
> >
>
> What has you question got to do with places in the middle of nowhere?
> Please keep on topic!!! ;-)
Yes, please keep on the topic of "Re: Linux vs. Unix". Linux vx Unix has
nothing to do with "places in the middle of nowhere"!
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:49:53 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:35:21 GMT, Christopher B. Browne
wrote:
>Mapping that principle onto the teeming millions of people, if little
>or nothing is being done about problems in your inner city regions,
>that represents reasonable evidence that people truly don't care about
>those problems.
that's a very strange notion of "caring", that seems
contrary to
any real life experience. It suggests that action is the
only and
true measure of intention. The reason why we bother to have
two separate concepts for the two is because we experience
a difference between them.
Gabriel
=======================================================
Gabriel
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From: "Luca Satolli (KaBooM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:52:10 +0200
I've solved my problem ...
I've removed the # on the inetd.conf .... but it doesn't function ... becouse I've not
installed imap!
As I read imap is the imap/pop3 server.
Thanks all
Luca (KaBooM)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 02:58:24 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:46:04 -0400, Yury Donskoy wrote:
>I agree. The greatest proof that is Marx.
!@#$? To what
industry did he belong? did you read anything or are you
just name dropping?
>I decided in February, 1979, when I parents told me they were emigrating
>to Canada and I didn't protest at all. That was when I made my choice.
>And so did my parents. I was thirteen at the time, old enough to be able
>to judge. And I did. Perhaps not as consciously as all the Vietnamese
>boat people, but just as valid.
>
>Since the amount of welfare assistance is dependant on the number of
>children in the household, what do *you* think happens?
>I can't, of course, speak for the UK. I can only speak for Canada. I've
>driven through some welfare subdivisions, and the houses there are better
>than the ones my parents have after working for a couple of decades in
>Canada. College education can be had virtually for free, if you're a
>member of a disadvantaged group. Health care is freely available to all
>Canadians, even those who just stepped off the plane/boat(I don't disagree
>with this, so don't anyone start). The economy is the hottest it has been
>in known history. Of course, it is an information economy, and if you've
>dropped out of highschool, you're pretty much screwed. That's what adult
>education is for, which can also be had for free.
>No, society shouldn't address the issues. The issues are only simptoms,
>like coughing isn't the disease itself. If you address the underlying
>problems, then the issues will go away. Of course, like coughing, you
>also can't just ignore the simptoms, or they'll destroy you. But they
>shouldn't be the only things you take care of. No one's doing that, I'm
>afraid.
>
>Y
So you did learn something for Marx: always look underneath
appearences to the "fundamentals." Now, what is your
version of
the fundamental problem?
Gabriel
=======================================================
Gabriel
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: 28 Aug 1999 06:04:10 GMT
steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...From this I conclude that yes, it is in fact a crude hack....
You don't know what you are talking about.
As one who has written x86 emulators, I can tell you that VMware is a
truly remarkable piece of software. They have taken an instruction set
that won't virtualize itself, and virtualized it with only about a 1/3
performance penalty.
Furthermore the use of a host OS makes a great deal of sense for two
important reasons:
(1) The host OS doesn't have to run virtualized, and therefore does
not suffer the performance penalty; and
(2) They don't have to keep up with drivers for every device on the
planet; the nice Linux developers are doing that very well,
thank you.
Try VMware, you'll like it!
-- Rod
======================================================================
Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
======================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: 28 Aug 1999 05:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kenny A. Chaffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Just go to a bookstore and flip through the pages.
>> Or do you need to poll everyone's opinion on which bookstore
>> to go to..? FCOL...
>
>No, because you didn't express your opinion wrt the subject of the
>question. You suggested that I form my own opinion about the magazines,
>which is exactly why I asked the question and I have gotten helpful
>responses from others.....
Thing is, you can't form an opinion of a magazine from reading what a
bunch of strangers have to say about it. I like Linux Journal. What
does that mean to you? Nothing. For all you know, it might rank right
behind Reader's Digest and TV Guide on my list of must-reads.
>If you don't have anthing constructive to add the just shut up.
Advice that you'd do well to heed: ignore those whose posts bug you.
Don't post followups to their followups with friendly language like
"just shut up." You'll get little from the experience.
Jim
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.swcp.com/~jimhill/
Death closes all; but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
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From: Andrew Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: What's the difference between glibc and libc?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:47:01 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I was wondering what are the main differences (and advantages vs
disadvantages) of the glibc and libc libraries etc? Which one is better
(why), which one is more common etc etc.
Thanks Heaps.
- Andy Gray
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