Linux-Misc Digest #570, Volume #21 Sat, 28 Aug 99 15:13:09 EDT
Contents:
problem with mp3's (aydincem)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? (Mitja)
Re: What script executes before X11 starts? (Joshua Li)
Re: win95 & linux (Leonard Evens)
Com 5 problem solved ("Scott")
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy ("Gabriel")
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? (Chris Campbell)
Compiling kernel trouble (Raul Trujillo)
Re: Tmail Problem ("Jeff Grossman")
Re: [Q] Creating BOOT/ROOT /dev corrupted at mount (2.2.9-2.2.12) ("Wes Kaefer")
Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too. (Leonard Evens)
Re: slocate (Leonard Evens)
Infinite reboots with 2.0.37 or 2.0.38 ("ELVIS")
Re: What is a demand-paged-executable (QMAGIC)? (William Burrow)
Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ... (Chris Campbell)
Dumb ? diff between Hedwig and Venus (Chris Campbell)
Re: Shutdown Problem (Gert van der Knokke)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Errin Watusikac)
Re: SB PCI128 (aydincem)
Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ... (Leonard Evens)
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From: aydincem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with mp3's
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:29:46 +0200
hi,
i use suse linux 6.1 and kde. if i boot the system and try to play an
mp3 file with x11amp, everything works.
ok, after let's say one or two hours the player blocks and i can't play
anything, i can load the files but can't play them. i tried it with
mp3blaster --> the same problem also with wav files (cd works).
i tried to un- and reload the drivers (rmmod es1370, modprobe es1370)
but that i still was unable to play anything.
i watched the processes but i don't see any proc that could use the
device. i don't get any error message.
ok, thanks for any re.
cu
cem aydin
i've an creative labs 128 pci.
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From: Mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:23:59 +0200
Amaya lloking fine but how configurated it?
Capital letters not working for me (SuSE 6.1, KDE 1.1.1.)
Mitja
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http://www2.arnes.si/ljitis1
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Adam C. Emerson wrote:
>Gilbert Groehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone make a HTML editor similar to
>> MS 'Front Page' for LINUX ?
>
>No, but there are other WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) Web
>Page designers.
>
>You don't want one of those.
>
>You want a WYGIWYG (What You Get Is What You Get) editor. VIM and Elvis
>both have very nice HTML editing modes with syntax highlighting.
>
>You should know HTML well enough to write a webpage if you're going
>to be putting one up, and if you can write it in a text editor,
>why not? Only problem is placement, but that's not too big an issue.
>
>--
>Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19
>"Why finish when you can start a new thing to half do?"
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From: Joshua Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What script executes before X11 starts?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:30:59 GMT
I already tried and failed before I posted.
Thanks anyway.
Joshua
ne... wrote:
> On Aug 27, 1999 at 21:30, Joshua Li eloquently wrote:
>
> >I am trying to autoload Xfstt during boot. The FaQ says to do so I must
> >execute "xfstt &" few sections before X11 starts. Which initiate script
> >should I put this line in?
> rc.local is as good a bet as any.......
>
> --
> A is for Apple.
> -- Hester Pryne
>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: win95 & linux
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:31:55 -0500
M Harpur wrote:
>
> Hi
> Heard about a linux install program installing from within win95. meant
> to be easy. Anyone know about it?
>
> http://utd.hypermart.net
One way to use Linux is to put Linux in its own partitions
but then to make copies of the Linux kernel and everything
else that needed to boot in a Windows directory. Then
while Windows is running, you can load this kernel. However,
you do have to exit Windows in the process. The program for
doing this is called loadlin.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Com 5 problem solved
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:39:56 -0400
First of all, thanks to all those that helped me along the way. Minicom now
dials!!!!!!!
Because I got contacted from people with similar problems, and no
complete answers, I'm going to post how I accomplished getting it to work.
Please keep in mind that I'm not an expert in this area and I can only say
this worked on MY machine. Do any of this at your own risk. Any experts
that can add to this message, please do so. If there is an easier way,
please tell us.
I'm running Window's 95 and Redhat 6.0. I have a USR 56k Voice/Fax PNP
internal modem. It is not a winmodem.
The problem:
This modem is set to install on COM 2 IRQ 3. Windows installed it on COM 5
and it ran fine. Linux could not find the modem on COM 2.
The motherboard already has a COM 2 that is connected to an external serial
port. Windows detects this and creates an artificial COM 5 with the same IRQ
and port address as the real COM 2. As long as you don't use the exterior
COM 2, everything's great. Linux doesn't do anything. If you tell it to use
COM 2 as the modem, that exterior COM 2 is the modem. Minicom will happily
use it to do nothing. Your modem is invisible. Many solutions will make
Windows gag and do goofy things like put your modem on COM 2 IRQ 0.
The goal:
Modem works in Windows 95 and Linux.
The solution:
First you must go into bios and disable COM 2. This disables the exterior
COM 2.
Second go into bios and disable the PNP on IRQ 3.
Third you must disable Plug and Play on your modem. Use the jumpers to
configure it to COM 2 IRQ 3.
Fourth in Windows delete (in settings/control panel/system/modem any modem
reference and in /ports any reference to COM 2.
Fifth reboot Windows and it should detect COM 2 as your modem and install
your modem (as non PNP) on it. If it doesn't, install the modem manually,
then delete COM 2 and reboot. WARNING: test to make sure it works on Windows
before going into Linux. Windows is much harder to configure manually than
Linux . Don't worry if you see 2 modems or 2 COM 2's. Just test it.
Windows will clean it up later.
Sixth boot into Linux and watch as it boots for the notification that COM 2
is linked to /dev/ttyS1.
Seventh link /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS1.
Eighth test on minicom (after configuring it).
You should be done.
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From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:54:32 -0400, Jon Bloom wrote:
>"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
>t's a trojan horse. If you install it your security is compromised.
>> Does anyone believe this compromise is an *accident*?
>
>It's possible. There is ample evidence that Microsoft is capable of
>unknowingly (unthinkingly?) creating security hazards in the software
>they distribute. One need not infer any malice on their part.
>
Yes, but when your accidental minstakes benefit you it is
normal to be suspicious and when this happens every
second thursday... very few will give you the benefit of
the
doubt.
Gabriel
=======================================================
Gabriel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:48:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<rant>
Why is that, exactly? I've heard the same thing from many other
so-called HTML experts.
Analogies that spring to mind:
don't use a word processor to write a book, use a simple editor such
as VI
don't use a calculator, do it by hand.
don't use scripts, type each line by hand.
As I said these are simple. Why should I study HTML, to be able to
make a web page? I don't need to know the codes, nor do I want to know
the codes. I am a busy sys admin with many other jobs that need to get
done, who just happens to be the one with enough knowledge to try to
do a web page. I want to be able to point and click and make one, not
learn the code behind it. If I wanted to do that, or had the time to
do it, I wouldn't be a sys admin, or a manager, or a secretary or
whatever, I'd be a web page designer. Since I'm NOT a web page
designer, I want something that will do the code for me, which is
where a WYSIWYG editor shines.
You make those statements like "you should know HTML well enough..." I
make those statements like, "No, I shouldn't. I don't have the time,
not the inclenation. However, if my boss says make a page, I must do
it, so I will, but I won't try to be what I'm not.
</rant>
Now, having ranted on my soapbox, you should know that I DO know quite
a bit about HTML, at least enough to make a decent page using a simple
editor. The above was just for arguments sake. How about instead of
telling someone not to do something, you either answer the question
posed, or don't answer at all.
In answer to the orgiinal, if you happen to be using KDE, you could
try KWebMaker. There are several point-and-click web page designers
available, you just need to look for them.
Chris
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:43:57 GMT, "Adam C. Emerson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gilbert Groehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone make a HTML editor similar to
>> MS 'Front Page' for LINUX ?
>
>No, but there are other WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) Web
>Page designers.
>
>You don't want one of those.
>
>You want a WYGIWYG (What You Get Is What You Get) editor. VIM and Elvis
>both have very nice HTML editing modes with syntax highlighting.
>
>You should know HTML well enough to write a webpage if you're going
>to be putting one up, and if you can write it in a text editor,
>why not? Only problem is placement, but that's not too big an issue.
--
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
Tech33 on the IRC
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From: Raul Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling kernel trouble
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:16:59 -0700
I just downloaded kernel 2.2.11 off the internet. I installed it in
/usr/src and from there I think it overwrote my previous kernel
(2.2.5). I am using SuSE 6.1. I got as far as:
make dep clean boot
When it gets in 'make boot' it stops and doesn't create my new image.
These are my results:
bash # make boot gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__SMP__ -pipe
-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
-malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/pagemap.h: In function `page_address': In
file included from
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/locks.h:8, from
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/blk.h:5, from
init/main.c:23: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/pagemap.h:17:
`PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/pagemap.h:17: (Each undeclared identifier
is reported only once /usr/src/linux/include/linux/pagemap.h:17: for
each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux/include/linux/pagemap.h:18:
warning: control reaches end of non-void function
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `get_pgd_slow': In
file included from
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/vmalloc.h:7, from
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:101, from
init/main.c:26: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:408:
`PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In function `pte_alloc_kernel':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:497: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared
(first use this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h: In
function `pte_alloc': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/pgtable.h:515:
`PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function `virt_to_phys': In file
included from init/main.c:26: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:112:
`PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first use this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function `phys_to_virt':
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:117: `PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first
use this function) /usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h: In function
`check_signature': /usr/src/linux/include/asm/io.h:175:
`PAGE_OFFSET_RAW' undeclared (first use this function) init/main.c: In
function `start_kernel': init/main.c:1169: too few arguments to function
`buffer_init'
make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
It stops and doesn't create my new 'image.' Can anyone help me?
Thanks In Advance (TIA)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.mail.imap,comp.mail.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: Tmail Problem
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:21:40 -0700
I have since fixed this problem, thanks. I did not have Tmail set as setuid
root.
Jeff
--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Tim Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried to switch my local mailer in Sendmail to tmail. But, after I
did
> > it, I was not able to receive any messages. I got the following error
> > message in my log file. What did I do wrong?
> >
> > Aug 24 19:24:18 apple tmail[15213]: unable to log in UID 500 from UID 2
> > Aug 24 19:24:18 apple tmail[15213]: error in delivery
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> did you kill sendmail before starting tmail? make sure nothing else is
> bound to port 25.
>
> --
> ====================================================
> Tim Malone
> Asst. Forum Manager
> The OS Forum
> http://computingcentral.com/forums/os
> ====================================================
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Reply-To: "Wes Kaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Wes Kaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] Creating BOOT/ROOT /dev corrupted at mount (2.2.9-2.2.12)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:17:05 GMT
In case anyone wonders; since this problem
took forever to find what in retrospect
was an obvious solution(always)..
/dev was the last part of the ram
file system to be created.
Adding the 'sync' commands between
the 'dd' command and 'mount' commands,
solved the problem...
wes.kaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:onEx3.94$jA1.21772@pm02news...
> Looking for clues...
>
> Have Scripts which previously created
> working boot/root disks (2.0.X).
>
> Now, with 2.2.9+
>
> After creating template volume in /dev/ram,
> everything looks ok until boot, then fails
> during boot at finding /dev/console or /dev/init.
>
> Subsequent, mount of boot image using
> loop device,
>
> (Abbreviated commands)
> dd if=/dev/ram of=/tmp/image ...
> mount /tmp/image ...
>
>
> Listing of root directory of image
> shows.
>
> ?rwxr-xr-x .... /dev dated December 1969
>
> Anyone know what this problem is ??????????
>
>
>
> Thanks, to anyone who responds.
>
>
> Wes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:29:01 -0500
"W.G. Unruh" wrote:
>
> "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Trying to cure that, I used a rescue disc to boot, mounted
> >my
> >root partition ( which seems completely OK) and changed all
>
> >instances of sda6 to sda7 in etc/fstab , etc/lilo.conf and
> >etc/mtab
> >( the last one is probably superfluous--so be it.)
>
> Then while still booted with your rescue disk, you need to run lilo and
> tell it to use the altered lilo.conf. So when you had the rescue disk
> booted, the sd6 partition mounted say as /rescue, you run
> /sbin/lilo -C /rescue/etc/lilo.conf
This should probably be
/rescue/sbin/lilo -r /rescue -C /rescue/lilo.conf
or something like that.
You can also probably boot from the disk by passing the
root= parameter to the kernel at the lilo prompt. Check
the lilo man page. Then you would be able to fix lilo
from the disk based system in the normal way.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slocate
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:10:25 -0500
root wrote:
>
> I running Redhat 6.0 and slocate-1.4-7. I'm getting daily messages
> e-mailed to me by the cron.daily/slocate.cron. Below is a small
> excerpt.
>
> [root@mail cron.daily]# ./slocate.cron
> slocate: lstat: hosts.deny: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: ftpaccess: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: ftpconversions: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: ftpgroups: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: ftphosts: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: ftpusers: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: group: Input/output error
> slocate: lstat: group-: Input/output error
>
> I tried un-installing, re-installing, and verifying the slocate package.
> I've read the man pages on slocate and lstat yet I really don't have a
> clue why this is occurring. Can anyone help me out here??
>
> Thanks -
Check the shell script /etc/cron.daily/slocate.cron to see if
it got garbled somehow.
Also, try
find / -name hosts.deny -ls
to see if you get a similar message?
The idea is to try other programs which look at the file system If all
the rest work, there may be some problem with slocate,
but I can't imagine what. Unfortunately, the strings command shows
that slocate uses lstat but that find apparently does not.
The probelm might also be with the shared library containing
lstat.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "ELVIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Infinite reboots with 2.0.37 or 2.0.38
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:11:34 -0400
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Did the deja search...
I never had problems installing a new kernel until 2.0.37... figured 2.0.38
would solve the problem. No luck. System is an old vanilla 486DX4/100 SiS
chipset PCI that runs fine (well... as fine as Linux ever runs) under
2.0.36. Pure Linux, no other OS. Optimized as router. Originally
Slackware Spring '96, upgraded as soon as new 2.0.x kernels came out.
libc5.4.46, gcc 2.7.2, etc.
2.0.37 and 2.0.38 reboot just before "Memory: sized by int13 088h" would
have appeared on 2.0.36, which is always the first line in
/var/adm/messages.
Coincidentally (perhaps NOT!) there is a "new" memory sizing feature in 37's
"make config". I use "Standard". I tried the LILO "mem" trick with no
success. Also tried "Enterprise" and "Custom" with the same result. No
errors during compile.
For those who care:
# LILO configuration file
append="hda=1647,16,63 hdb=1057,32,63 mem=24M"
boot = /dev/hda
delay = 100
prompt
vga = 1
# End LILO global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins (2.0.37 or 2.0.38)
image = /vmlinuz
root = /dev/hdb1
label = LEECHIX
read-only
# Last Known Good (2.0.36)
image = /vmlinuz.save
root = /dev/hdb1
label = LAST
read-only
# Linux bootable partition config ends
Personal reply would be cool but not necessary.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: What is a demand-paged-executable (QMAGIC)?
Date: 28 Aug 1999 17:12:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:13:33 +0200,
Oliver Gebele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>teog@Xpc64:~/tmp/nec > file nec
>nec: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically
>linked
>(uses shared libs), not stripped
This is an executable that uses the ELF binary format. It is
dynamically linked. ldd will show you the libraries it depends on.
>then browsing throu the internet i found a linux-executable
>
>teog@Xpc64:~/tmp/nec > file nec2.linux
>nec2.linux: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)
>
>so what is that? and how was it created?
This is an a.out format executable, using the Linux QMAGIC variant
(there are several of these MAGIC types, dunno what they mean though).
To be able to use this file, you must have a.out libraries on your
system.
>the usual executables have ELF in the first bytes of the file
>and i first did not believe the file would run at all,
>but it did.
It is possible the file is statically linked, that is it does not depend
on external libraries to run. Again, ldd will tell you what libraries
it depends on, if any.
Historically, the a.out format was phased out years ago with the
introduction of libc5, which uses the ELF format. There may still be
some old programs that use a.out available, and a few cranky people who
don't want to change libraries probably still develop with libc4.
Of course, Linux is now struggling through the adoption of glibc2,
phasing out libc5.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ...
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:33:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not sure I understand fully. Tar by itself, with no added command
line parameter will not do absolute-path, so if you <tar xvf
filename.tar> it will untar the archive in the pwd. It should only be
when you do a <tar xvf --absolute-path filename.tar> that it will
cause it to untar in the incorporated paths. Or am I confused?
chris
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:13:35 +0200, "Markus Meng"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hey and hello,
>>
>> I do have a tar archive on a tape. I would like to extract some files
>> onto my solaris machine. However all the files on the archive are
>> in absolute path notation...Is there a switch to tell the tar cmd
>> not to try to restore with the absolute path notation, since I don't
>> want those pathes on my solaris box ??
>>
>> thank's
>>
>> marcus
>>
>> --
--
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
Tech33 on the IRC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Campbell)
Subject: Dumb ? diff between Hedwig and Venus
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:33:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
What's the difference between Red Hat 6.0 (Hedwig) and Mandrake 6.0
(Venus)?
Are Hedwig and Venus two different kernels?
TIA,
Chris
--
Chris Campbell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
Tech33 on the IRC
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From: Gert van der Knokke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Shutdown Problem
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:26:26 +0000
David Fox wrote:
> Alan Swartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > stan168 wrote:
> >
> > > I was thinking if the user just want to turn off the power without
> > > doing a shutdown properly. Is there any way to prevent the checking (fsck)
> > > at booting time and data corruption?
> >
> > I'm curious: Why would you want to do that?
>
> Perhaps to use Linux as the basis of an appliance like a stereo system.
> --
> David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
> UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
Just an idea, I made a Linux based mp3 CD player and I use the UPS software to
properly shut down the system. My power button is overruled by a relay as soon it
it switched on, therefore you can't manually switch it off after that.
An extra contact on the powerbutton 'informs' the system the state of the power
switch and Linux does a nice shutdown -h now after it detects the power switch
being released. (I used a standard double pole switch, one pole for the mains,
the other for the 'powerstate' input.
And the end of the shutdown procedure the relay is dropped by a line on the
serial port.
Neat and simple. This way a user can't accidently turn the system off (unless he
pulls the plug of course) On such a system you can mount almost all of the system
as read-only, just /tmp or /var as read/write.
To be on the safe side you can force a sync after writing 'delicate' data to
these directories.
Gert
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
From: Errin Watusikac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 Aug 1999 10:22:28 -0700
Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> The audience in this case are three newsgroups in the comp.os.linux.*
> hierarchy. For this audience, the term "free" as in "free software"
> does NOT mean "zero-cost". Perhaps for some other audience, it does.
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> The difference in understanding of the word "free" is perhaps one of
> the biggest differences between both groups. If you had lurked here
> some time before you posted, you would have known this.
I'm with Max. I've been using Linux (and not M$Win) and reading NGs and
webpages (including gnu.org) for several years, and "free" still means
"without cost" to me unless the context clearly changes the meaning.
I.T. is not that context. Max was right - software can't have freedom.
And people who use GPL, NPL, QPL, etc, certainly don't have freedom;
their bound by the terms of a several-thousand word license.
I'm hoping that one of the benefits of an influx into the Linux
community of M$ refugees will be an increase in the number of Linuxers
that haven't joined the Cult of GNU and accepted its misleading use
of words. M$'s lies were more transparently marketing-speak.
GPL concepts are not simplistic; they shouldn't have a simplistic title
unless it is "GPL". Certainly not such a misleading title as "free
software". Maybe GNU mailing lists can butcher words for cult usage,
but this is a public forum for Linux.
People here better get used to the fact that Linux now both a corprate
OS and a commercial OS (see this week's Linux Today article on those
terms). It contains non-free (by any definition) software and has users
and developers who have escapted from a wide range of other
environments. It would be better for all (except maybe the few who are
too heavily invested in poorly-considered habits) to make things easier
on the new folks, instead of having them make things harder on you.
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From: aydincem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB PCI128
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:44:28 +0200
Brian Chappell wrote:
>
> I'm am probably missing something really stupid here and am prepared for that.
>
> I have one of the offending cards, I can get CD playback through it once I have
> insmod es1370, but I can't get wave playback... anyone got one of these beasts
> running?
>
> I'm using Mandrake Linux 6.0 (Venus).
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Brian
hi, i've got running one of these beasts under kernel 2.2.5, if your
kernel is under 2.2.x you can't use the SB and you've to update.
else you've to edit the /etc/conf.modules, search the line with:
# alias char-major-14 es1370
and remove the #.
then load the module, i suggest you use modprobe instead of insmod -->
modprobe es1370.
if this doesn't works you should try to edit the line
# alias char-major-14 es1371
remove the # too. put a # on the line with the es1370.
if this doesn't works, you maybe have to recompile the module es1370.
ok cu
cem aydin
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HowTo extract from a tar archiv ...
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:40:57 -0500
Markus Meng wrote:
>
> > Hey and hello,
> >
> > I do have a tar archive on a tape. I would like to extract some files
> > onto my solaris machine. However all the files on the archive are
> > in absolute path notation...Is there a switch to tell the tar cmd
> > not to try to restore with the absolute path notation, since I don't
> > want those pathes on my solaris box ??
> >
> > thank's
> >
> > marcus
> >
> > --
>
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This is really a question about Solaris, not Linux. But check
the man page for chroot
chroot newroot "tar xvf ..."
or some variation should do it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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