Linux-Misc Digest #601, Volume #21 Mon, 30 Aug 99 15:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best Linux dist for running SCO software? (S. Lockwood)
Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Francis R Bridge)
Re: I need some help with overall stuff (Leejay Wu)
Re: Where is current kernel config file? (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Had it with RH6 (Leonard Evens)
Re: smtp and pop (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: images and perl scripts (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Migrate SCSI to IDE (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Re: Help installing new kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: hardware compression with DAT drive? (Raymonds Doetjes)
New terminal device? (Matthias Kramm)
installation from CD-R (Olivier)
Re: multiple consoles on multiple monitors (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Using Disk Druid to partition a 1.2 GB drive (Darin Johnson)
cross-compilation of kernel (Jean-Yves Simon)
Re: Video-Beamer and Linux (Ian Rawlings)
Re: Printing two pages on one (Ian Rawlings)
Re: hardware compression with DAT drive? (Ian Rawlings)
Re: POP3 server. ("Steven J. Hathaway")
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From: S. Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Linux dist for running SCO software?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:31:02 GMT
Kingsley Tart wrote:
> I've now installed RH 5.2 and selected the iBCS module at setup. I've
> transferred the contents of /bin on our SCO box to /bin/sco on the
> Linux machine, I've put that directory in the path and have renamed
> all of the SCO executables to have ".sco" on the end so that I can be
> sure which version I am running.
>
> Things still aren't quite right though. Any ideas?
>
> --8<--
> [root@redhat /root]# cd /tmp
> [root@redhat /tmp]# ls
> install.log linuxconf-rpminstall.log
> [root@redhat /tmp]# ls | grep "l"
> install.log
> linuxconf-rpminstall.log
> [root@redhat /tmp]# ls | grep.sco "l"
> bash: /bin/sco/grep.sco: No such file or directory
> [root@redhat /tmp]# type grep.sco
> grep.sco is hashed (/bin/sco/grep.sco)
> [root@redhat /tmp]# ls -l /bin/sco/grep.sco
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30396 Aug 13 13:00 /bin/sco/grep.sco
> [root@redhat /tmp]# type grep
> grep is hashed (/bin/grep)
> [root@redhat /tmp]#
> --8<--
First, you could try checking whether the iBCS module is getting loaded:
lsmod
I suspect however that your problem is with shared libraries. I have seen
this misleading "No such file or directory" message appear for someone who
was trying to run binaries linked against a different version of the C
library. Are your SCO binaries dynamically linked? If so, you'll need to
make sure those libraries are also available on your system. You might need
to try the libraries developed specifically for running under linux rather
than just copying over your libraries from SCO (see
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/BETA/ibcs2/README.shlib)
Good luck,
--SJL
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From: Francis R Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS?
Date: 30 Aug 1999 11:00:41 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott) writes:
>
> In article <haiso7.199.ln@localhost>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller) wrote:
>
> >: >I'm no expert on this subject, but might the CPU power use at idle
> >: >depend on exactlt what the OS does in its idle loop? In order to
> >: >truly idle the CPU, the OS can't just have the scheduler running
> >: >something in a loop. That would keep the CPU awake.
> >:
> >: .... which is precisely why Linux (on Intel, at least) executes the
> >: 'hlt' instruction in its idle task, which halts all processor activity
> >: (until the processor is woken by the next hardware interrupt).
> >
> >The most common reason that HALT instructions (HLT on Intel) are issued by an
> >operating system is to make sure that the cpu is quiet so that DMA operations
> >can proceed without interference from the cpu. After all, if the cpu has
> >nothing else to do while awaiting the completion of an I/O, there is no sense
> >in having perform memory operations (while in a loop) competing with the DMA
> >traffic. Also, if the cpu is halted, it can respond to interrupts must
> >faster, in that it doesn't need to finish the current instruction before
> >taking the interrupt.
> >
> >This concept of halting the cpu during idle periods is an old concept that
> >predates the ability of the cpu to power down.
>
> FWIW, there was an item in the Linux Journal a few years ago, about
> battery life in notebook computers. It seems that Linux & OS/2 got
> better battery life than Windows, because they used the halt
> instruction when idle, whereas Windows used a loop. Also years ago,
> when I was using an IMSAI 8080 computer with my amateur radio
> equipment, I wrote the software to use a halt instruction while idle,
> so as to reduce the amount of radio frequency noise generated. On
> some frequencies, I could here a small chirp when ever I used the
> keyboard.
This was true of Win3.*, but I believe Win9* is better. I recall some
years ago when I upgraded from a 33 to 66 MHz i486. The Chip was cold to
the touch when linux was idle, and got a bit warm when doing a big GCC. I
then fired up Win 3.1 with just the desktop running. I touched the CPU and
ended up with the intel 'i' burned onto my finger. Obviously a CPU fan was
in order at that point.
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need some help with overall stuff
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:13:25 -0400
[groups trimmed]
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 30-Aug-99 I need some help
with overa.. by Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi, I have to say, (even after spending the extra 100 bucks on
> Win98) I want switch to Linux. Now how do I do this? Can I run my
How? Start reading. And, er, ask yourself why.
> games on it? What do I need to learn? Is Linux really a coding
re: games.
Short answer: No. Linux is Linux, Windows is Windows. Would you
expect to run, say, Framemaker for Solaris on a WinNT box?
More accurate: Possibly. Some may run under Wine or DOSEMU, but it
depends. Some games actually have Linux ports, including
commercial ones like Civ:CTP, Quake II, and Myth II.
> language or what? Will all my other nifty programs run off it?
<shrug> Does Mac System 7 natively run LinuxPPC binaries? Does Windows NT
run Solaris/x86 programs?
Linux is not a language.
Linux is not a better Windows.
Linux is, in fact, a separate operating system.
Ergo, do not expect Linux to behave just like Windows, running your old
software.
It is a separate operating system, that is not designed to run Windows
programs -- in much the same way that Windows is not designed to run
Unix programs, nor even necessarily programs for other variants of
Windows.
Keep this in mind. Some programs may have ports; some may run under
emulation; and many, many will have Linux _equivalents_. The binaries
are not the same.
> (Netscape, Outlook, NeoPlant, Corel 8, my scanner software, and V3
Netscape has been ported, although it's not the most stable browser
out there (on either platform).
Outlook? Ugh. Outlook has not been ported, but there are a variety
of good mailer programs on Linux. WineHQ reports include a failure
of Outlook97 to open Exchange. If you want to conduct your own searches
of winehq, try the www.winehq.com URL.
Corel 8? Corel's actually a pretty big booster of Linux and Linux
applications. In particular, check linux.corel.com -- they have
Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux.
Voodoo 3 servers exist, although they don't yet appear to be officially
in the XFree86 project (yet). Check Deja, or do a Google search.
> card software, all designed for win95/98)
>
> Thanks for your help and please do respond!
You will want to consider *why* you are doing so. If all you want is
a more stable Windows, with your old setup and applications, you would
probably not be successful here -- Linux is *not* Windows. You'd be
better off seeking out local Win9X gurus, and searching MS's Knowledge
Base, and bothering tech support whenever necessary.
If you *are* willing to actually migrate, consider reading stuff from
the Linux Documentation Project and so forth. Check
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs
for info (particularly the LDP directory). Check the Hardware
Compatibility HOWTO against your configuration, for instance. Check
the User's Guide, and read about what you want to do. And you'll
*really* want to familiarize yourself with Deja, since the same
questions (and answers) tend to pop up over... and over... and over...
again.
--
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the silly student |
|--------------------------| he writes really bad haiku |
| #include <stddiscl.h> | readers all go mad |
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is current kernel config file?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:46:45 +0200
It resides in /usr/src/linux and is called .config (thats why you can't
find it its hidden).
Be aware though, that sometimes the suage of on old kernel config file
will not work!! Sometimes paramters are renamed or removed and then you
get either a compile error or your system acts strange.
In my case I used my old 2.0.36 config file to compile a 2.2.0 kernel it
seems to work, but I never got IO on my VGA and Keyboard. At first i
thought SCSI support fas bugged but later I found out that the option
VGA console wasn't enabled and could not be enabled. After making a new
config it worked.
Last I had a problem from 2.2.6 to 2.2.10 I got a unresolved error
during compilation. After adding the values again cross-checking it with
my 2.2.6 config I found out that Language support params were renamed
asswell as 2 others (can't rember wich).
It saves alot of time trying to compile at first if not rebuilding a
config file. But it can also act strange. So BE AWARE.
I still do it that way ;)
Raymond
Jason Bond wrote:
> Does anyone out there know where the current kernel
> config file resides? I'm trying to compile a kernel and
> I want to keep most of the current options. Thanks much,
>
> Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor
Date: 30 Aug 1999 18:13:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, fred smith wrote:
>Jim Shaffer, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: There is a well-known problem with particular versions of Windows 95 and the
>: K6-2 and K6-3 at 350 MHz or above. Apparently, some sequence of instructions
>: peculiar to that version of W95 result in an internal timing problem.
In other words, there is a race condition bug in Microsoft's OS,
and AMD's instruction pipelining is efficient enough to expose it.
>: On the other hand, I've heard for a long time that K6 processors run hotter than
>: Intels, so maybe the problem lies there instead.
>
>I have no high-end Intel for comparison, but my K6-2/350 doesn't get hot.
>True, it's got a big hairy heatsink with fan, but the heatsink never
>even gets warm to the touch.
FWIW I have been using AMD's microprocessors on and off since 1979.
(I started with a board-level CPU built around the Am2901 4-bit
processor slice and the Am2911 and 29811 microsequencer...)
and whatever other faults they may have, I have never seen one with thermal
problems.
Cameron
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:28:11 -0500
"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
>
> > SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
> > got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
> > one for a completely different model sound card.
>
> I've been complaining about the exact same problem on this group for
> about a week-and-a-half, and haven't heard any possible solutions yet.
> What exactly DID you end up doing to make your sound card work?
>
> Steve
sndconfig has had problems both under RH5.2 and under 6.0.
I could never get it to work under 5.2, but I have usually got
it to work under 6.2. In one or two cases it caused some
problems because of the configuration. There is no question
but that it is still buggy. However, there are upgrades which
fix some of the bugs. Unfortunately, there are a lot of dependencies
which must be satisfied, so upgrading the package requires upgrading
a whole bunch of other packages also.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: smtp and pop
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:54:22 +0200
Install your SuSE or RedHat (SuSE preferred).
Make sure you install the pop server in section N (with suse) or called
imap server in RedHat.
Also install send,ail (default).
And then install a DNS server if there is none on your network.
Configure DNS server to use MX records.
Configure Sendmail to match your system name and domainname
This means adding these values or editting them
Cw hostname
DJ$w.domainname.com
DMdomainname.com
If this results in a mail that tells the root that MX record loops back
to local host you can also type this:
Cw domainname.com
Cj$w.domainname.com
DMDomainname.com
Thats about it.
I suggest you know your DNS!!! Thats the most tricky part.
You don't need to donfigure pop3 since its a pretty static protocoll.
Raymond
Holger Bunkradt wrote:
> Hi,
> i will install a linuxserver with smtp and pop server for winclient.
>
> please help
>
> regards
> holger bunkradt
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: images and perl scripts
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:49:20 +0200
The images should reside in htdocs or a directory under HTDOCS.
Perl should create a HTML tag that tells were to find the image.
f.i.
print "<IMG SRC>/images/gifimage.gif</IMG>";
Don't forget to write the default HTML header asswell. Otherwise your browser
won't interpret the code generated by the script as HTML.
Raymond
Les Cole wrote:
> How do I get images (gif &jpeg) to display in HTML that is created by any
> of my perl scripts? I have placed copies of the images in the cgi-bin and
> other directories (thinking that CGI-BIN is scriptaliased) but still only
> get an icon indicatiting that an image should be showing. The same problem
> occurs if I want to use a background image in the HTML i.e <BODY
> BACKGROUND="background.gif"> (no background image displays). Other than
> that problem everything else is working fine! Is it that you can only
> display HTML or Images and not both?
> Many thanks
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Subject: Re: Migrate SCSI to IDE
Date: 30 Aug 1999 13:32:59 -0400
You might want to check out the hard disk upgrade mini-howto
(Text) http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade
(HTML) http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
Collin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help installing new kernel
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:28:23 GMT
Hi Jason,
I also had similar problem long back when I was configuring my CD-RW
Drive.
Whatever I remember, the problem was in IRQ settings. View your
/var/log/messages file verify it. If you find the problem there then
recompile kernel with correct IRQ allocation.
I guess you have old kernel for logging. If not when screen is
blinking kill X with ctrl+alt+backspace.
Let me know if still the problem persists..
Regards
Gunendra Patil
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to re-install the 2.0.36 kernel on my system
> (it already is 2.0.36 but I've bought a cd-rw and I'm trying
> to get the scsi emulation to work). I've followed all
> of the instructions on which components to load directly
> and as modules (as closely as possible). I've done
> make menuconfig, make dep, make clean, make zImage, make modules, and
> make modules_install and I've
> copied the zImage file to the appropriate place. When I install the
> new kernel, it seems to boot up to when xdm tries to
> kick in. It goes to the text linux login and then attempts
> to switch to the vga screen and then just sort of blinks
> and the login screen never shows. I know this isn't all
> that much information, but if anyone knows off hand
> of a stupid mistake I've made in compiling the kernel
> I would be very appreciative. Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
>
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware compression with DAT drive?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:39:02 +0200
Arkeia back server supports hardware compression. I don't know ho to
pass a hardware compression argument with tar though
Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> WHen I use a Solaris box at work I can get HW compression
> from a 4mm DAT drive using a different tape device. How
> does one do this under linux? I just got a 4mm drive at
> a flea market and am experimenting with it. Thanks!
>
> --
> Fred
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From: Matthias Kramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New terminal device?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:33:56 +0200
Hi.
What to do best after a
rm /dev/tty1 ?
What is the general way to create a device file?
Thank you.
Matthias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Olivier)
Subject: installation from CD-R
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:08:45 GMT
Hi,
I have downloaded the RedHat 6.0 from a FTP site and burn it on a
CD-R. The root of this CD is:
-r--r--r-- 1 400 400 18391 Mar 19 11:50 COPYING
-r--r--r-- 1 400 400 3187 Apr 19 14:56 README
-r--r--r-- 1 400 400 2751 Sep 18 1997 RPM-PGP-KEY
drwxr-xr-x 5 400 400 8192 Apr 30 16:58 RedHat
-r--r--r-- 1 400 400 2048 Apr 20 09:33 boot.cat
drwxr-xr-x 7 400 400 8192 Apr 30 16:06 doc
drwxr-xr-x 6 400 400 8192 Jun 1 04:12 dosutils
drwxr-xr-x 2 400 400 8192 Apr 30 15:56 images
drwxr-xr-x 4 400 400 8192 Apr 30 15:19 misc
I created the boot disk (Rawrite...) and I booted from this floppy.
But when I choose to install Linux from the local CDROM the
installation program stops and I must reboot the system.
I copied the entire CD on a FAT partition and choose to install from
Hard Drive and it was OK (I could'nt finish all the installation
because my linux partition was too small...). Anyway, how can I
install Linux from a CD-R?
Thanks
Olivier Friard
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple consoles on multiple monitors
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:41:52 +0200
You need a commercial X-server for this. XFree86 is working on it right now to
be released probably januarie but if you can't wait that long
spend 200 dollars and buy a X-Server from Metro (MetroLink). ALso be aware that
not all VGA cards support 2 carts in a system!!! Since the hardware and drivers
are often not made for shared interrupt use. Matrox Millenium works though.
Raymond
Tim Kohlman wrote:
> I have two video cards in my RH6.0 box and i want to run consoles on both of
> them. Is there any way to do this? I don't want to use X.
>
> Please reply by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Using Disk Druid to partition a 1.2 GB drive
Date: 30 Aug 1999 11:26:30 -0700
Doug Marker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> swap (as big as the most RAM you will install)
There are problems with this "rule of thumb". First, there is a
maximum usable swap size. You can make a partition bigger, but it
won't necessarily all be used. I think the limit is 128M.
Second, it's just a wierd rule (and it got started long before Linux,
so there's no reason to assume that if it once was sensible that it
still is). It doesn't make sense logically. Ie, if you have 1M
memory, you'd want lots of swap space, but if you had 512M memory, you
could probably get by with no swap at all.
Instead, what's probably a better rule is to make sure physical ram
plus swap is at least a certain amount. But that certain amount is
highly dependent upon what you're doing. (128M is probably a good
round number that would satisfy most people)
--
Darin Johnson
"Look here. There's a crop circle in my ficus!" -- The Tick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Yves Simon)
Subject: cross-compilation of kernel
Date: 30 Aug 1999 07:32:13 GMT
Hello,
In order to save some room on my laptop, I's like to
remove the source of the kernel and build it on
my desktop machine (where I have more room).
The problem is that I don't know how to proceed.
I can see how to do it for vmlinuz, but how do
I proceed for modules. I have different hardware
to support. For instance, I have a pcmcia card
in my laptop not in my desktop. The sound hardware
is also different between my desktop and my laptop.
Should I go for a monolithic kernel for the laptop ?
I need in this case to maintain 2 config files, correct ?
Any help will be appreciated .
Thanks and regards.
--
Jean-Yves SIMON
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From: Ian Rawlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Video-Beamer and Linux
Date: 30 Aug 1999 18:53:28 +0100
Klaus Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We want to do a presentation with StarOffice on our Sharp XG - NV 5 XE
> Video-Beamer. Our problem is that we can=B4t get the Video-Beamer to work=
> =2E
> If Linux is in TextMode (by starting) it works fine. If I start the
> XServer, the Beamer can=B4t get a signal. The Beamer is connected to a
> Laptop.
jeez, your news client's throwing some weird stuff my way..
> I=B4ve tried to configure different monitors in SAX but I wasn=B4t
> successful. Is there someone who knows what I should do??
I'd imagine that the problem is the frequency or the resolution of the
display, it must be outside of the range of the projector, try finding
out the frequency range of the projector and defining it as a new
monitor, this should restrict your card to running in modes that are
compatible with the projector.
--
There are no facts, only opinions
*NOTE* email munging in action, delete obvious bit to reply.
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From: Ian Rawlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing two pages on one
Date: 30 Aug 1999 18:49:29 +0100
Domo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I�d like my printer (epson using ghostscript) to print a postscript
> file two pages on one (like many postscript printer support).
> Unfortunately I don�t have such a printer. Is there any possibility
> to do so?
You need "pstools", some fairly old command-line tools I used to use.
You have to hunt for them, but I think that CTAN had them
(Comprehensive Tex Archive Network), so try www.ctan.org, but that's a
guess at the address. They contain a number of commands that allow
you to do a whole host of things, such as reverse the page order and
print a number of pages on one page (2, 4, 8, whatever).
--
There are no facts, only opinions
*NOTE* email munging in action, delete obvious bit to reply.
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From: Ian Rawlings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware compression with DAT drive?
Date: 30 Aug 1999 18:55:03 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> WHen I use a Solaris box at work I can get HW compression from a 4mm
> DAT drive using a different tape device. How does one do this under
> linux? I just got a 4mm drive at a flea market and am experimenting
> with it. Thanks!
Under solaris you do this by setting the "density" of the drive, I'm
not sure how to do it under linux, but you could try looking into
that? I'd try poking the source of the tape driver in the kernel tree
(/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi IIRC).
--
There are no facts, only opinions
*NOTE* email munging in action, delete obvious bit to reply.
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From: "Steven J. Hathaway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:17:53 -0700
> You can also get the POP3 server from Qualcomm and compile it for Linux
or other unix OSes. See www.qualcomm.com for more deatils. They are
the vendors of the Eudora email client software.
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