Linux-Misc Digest #640, Volume #21 Thu, 2 Sep 99 09:13:08 EDT
Contents:
two networks (Michael Starkie)
Palm Pilot / Serial Port ??? (Bob Koss)
Re: insmod problems ("Jennifer Frederick")
SO 5.1 burps my HD (Steve Gage)
Re: SO 5.1 burps my HD (Tony Green)
Re: help me, can't get my data out of the zip file! (Markus Milleder)
Re: two networks (Tony Green)
Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Bash 2.03 (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Disabling control-alt-delete from a program (Emile van bergen)
Re: Heeeeeelp! java thread problem (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?= LE BLAY)
Re: linux with the intel 810 chipset ??? (Adrian Hands)
Re: insmod problems (Andrew Williams)
Re: two networks (Tony Green)
Re: SO 5.1 burps my HD (Steve Gage)
Re: two networks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects (Gergo Barany)
Re: Backspace with netscape ("Christopher W. Aiken")
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From: Michael Starkie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: two networks
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 03:21:58 -0400
I have a default getway specified for my ethernet device which is
enabled and connected to an ethernet. When I dial up to another network,
using ppp, I can't do anything on that new network. I think it is
because I don't have a gateway or route set up for the new network.
Does anyone have experience setting up their route tables for multiple
networks. What do I need to do?
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From: Bob Koss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Palm Pilot / Serial Port ???
Date: 02 Sep 1999 06:39:00 -0400
I downloaded the pilot-link tools but I've been unable to get
them to work.
pilot-xfer -b /home/bob/pilot as well as
pilot-xfer /dev/pilot -b /home/bob/pilot
just sit there. A connection is never made after I hit the synch
button on the pilot.
I have the link made to /dev/pilot made, just like the instructions
say to do.
[rskoss@localhost /dev]$
[rskoss@localhost /dev]$ ls -al cua0 pilot
crw------- 2 rskoss root 5, 64 May 5 1998 cua0
crw------- 2 rskoss root 5, 64 May 5 1998 pilot
[rskoss@localhost /dev]$
Any ideas where I should look?
--
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Senior Consultant | 14619 N Somerset Cr | Fax: (847) 918-1023
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Green Oaks IL 60048 | www.objectmentor.com
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From: "Jennifer Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: insmod problems
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:50:27 +0100
I have same problem and same error when I try insmod ppa (zip drive)
but I've just found that "modprobe ppa" works
Odd-Fish
John S. Gorman III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7qka25$v39$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Howdy all,
>
> I recently compiled kernel version 2.2.12 on my PII box. Everything seems
> to be working fine. However, when I run 'insmod <module>' I get:
>
> /lib/modules/2.2.12/ipv4/<module>.o: unresolved symbol <symbol name>
>
> After the new kernel was compiled, I noticed that the System.map symlink
was
> not updated in the /boot directory, nor was the module-info symlink.
> Although in the rc.sysinit there appears to be code for performing those
two
> functions. I moved the System.map from /usr/src/linux/ to
> /boot/System.map-2.2.12 and created a symlink, but I don't know how to
> remedy the module-info problem. I am not sure if this would affect the
> 'insmod' or not, but just a little info.
>
> Please let me know if anyone has any insight on this issue. There are a
> couple of modules I would like to insert, but am not currently capable. I
> am running Redhat 6.0, and insmod version 2.1.121.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: SO 5.1 burps my HD
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:01:44 GMT
Hello,
Whenever I run StarOffice 5.1, my hard drive gives a little "burp" every
10 seconds. Does anyone know what it's doing, and, more importantly, how
I can stop it? It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's actually quite
annoying.
TIA,
Steve
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From: Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SO 5.1 burps my HD
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:11:54 +0100
I assume your looking for an answer other than 'AlkaSeltza'? :-)
Perhaps its paging out - what level of free memory do you have?
Steve Gage wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Whenever I run StarOffice 5.1, my hard drive gives a little "burp" every
> 10 seconds. Does anyone know what it's doing, and, more importantly, how
> I can stop it? It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's actually quite
> annoying.
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Milleder)
Crossposted-To: comp.compression
Subject: Re: help me, can't get my data out of the zip file!
Date: 2 Sep 1999 11:11:49 GMT
read:
man zip
zip -h
zip -F is what you seek.
It�s in zip because it manipulates the zip file.
your zip file may be unrepairable because your zip file plus the central
directory may be larger than the 2GB limit, so you only get half of the
central directory to disk. In this case zipsplit might help. In all cases
you will need lots of free disk space.
And: can�t you just repack your files into several smaller archives ?
HTH,
Mark
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From: Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: two networks
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:31:15 +0100
You need to add a new gateway through the ppp device for anything outside of
your network
Michael Starkie wrote:
> I have a default getway specified for my ethernet device which is
> enabled and connected to an ethernet. When I dial up to another network,
> using ppp, I can't do anything on that new network. I think it is
> because I don't have a gateway or route set up for the new network.
> Does anyone have experience setting up their route tables for multiple
> networks. What do I need to do?
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 07:40:57 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Cline) writes:
> What are the disadvantages of using C++, instead of C, for an Open
> Source project. The only two disadvantages that I can think of are:
>
> 1) Not all potential users might have a C++ compiler.
> 2) There will always be more C programmers that C++ programmers, since
>
> anyone who can program C++ can also program C. Thus, making a in C++
> will prevent some of the development community from working on it.
>
> How much of a problem are these? Are there any other problems?
the shared C++ standard library, libstdc++.so, seems to change in a
binary incompatible way with each minor revision of gcc/egcs. as long
as you distribute source you should be fine. you may want to encourage
users to compile your app themselves as opposed to downloading a
binary.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Subject: Re: Bash 2.03
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 07:38:02 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I have RedHat 5.2 and I upgraded Bash 1.14
> to 2.03. After the upgrade, when I try to
> login to the system using any ID other than root
> the system hangs. root id works fine though.
did redhat call the new bash, bash2?
i think redhat makes /bin/bash2 so it can live alongside a
/bin/bash. maybe root's shell got renamed or there's a fallback
mechanism should root get a bogus shell.
> Does anyone know how to solve this?
if you have the problem i outlined above, either change your shell to
/bin/bash2 or rename /bin/bash2 to plain /bin/bash.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Emile van bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Disabling control-alt-delete from a program
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:28:18 +0000
On 2 Sep 1999, Olaf Klischat wrote:
>Emile van bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On 1 Sep 1999, Olaf Klischat wrote:
>>
>> >"Ben Gunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> >> In /etc/inittab, there's a line like this:
>> >>
>> >> # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE
>> >> ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
>> >>
>> >> I think commenting that line out and running "init q" will have the effect
>> >> you're looking for.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Hmm.. not that I have much of an idea about linux system programming,
>>
>> What does this example have to do with programming? 'If it ain't
>> clickety-click, it's programming'???
>
>Is there a misunderstanding here?
Yes. Very much so. I'm sorry, I was in a bad mood, skimmed through the
post, thought that I saw someone who viewed editing (manually)
/etc/initab as some kind of programming and considered touching this
file a bad idea.
I got it completely the wrong way around, the poster made exactly the
point I would make (and you as well...)!
>The original poster said that what he wanted to do was "Disabling
>control-alt-delete from a _program_". Which, in this case, would mean
>to do all these inittab modifications "silently" via fread()/fwrite()
>or something directly from the program.
>
>OK, maybe that's not so much a problem with inittab as it would be
>with, say, /etc/profile, because inittab has a fairly fixed format,
>but nonetheless...
>
>I for myself wouldn't want to have my config files modified by
>something other than myself (that is, my favorite text editor :)
>). Isn't it "common sense" in unix to _edit_ configuration files
>manually or maybe with some authorized configuration tool only? If you
>don't follow that rule, there's always the chance that you break
>something, IMVHO.
Yes, exactly. I'd hate having joe random's app mess with configuration
files that don't belong to joe random's app, unless via a well defined
interface provided by the program to which the configuration file(s)
belong.
>> >but sometimes I come to the conclusion that, in the unix world, it is
>> >considered sane to hack some rather sensitive config file
>> >programmatically and be happy that it works somehow...
... and he's quite right; application A shouldn't touch application B's
files, it shows lack of social skills ;-). I'm only glad I don't see to
much evidence in support of his conclusion (yet)...
Again, sorry for my misguided flame!
--
M.vr.gr. / Best regards,
Emile van Bergen (e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
This e-mail message is 100% electronically degradeable and produced
on a GNU/Linux system.
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:wq
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois?= LE BLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Heeeeeelp! java thread problem
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:58:44 +0200
"S�bastien Verleye" wrote:
> Maybe this problem was already solved or maybe it is not a problem.
> I try to execute a program in java and the shell returns:
> cannot find: java/lang/thread
> I've verified and it seems that everthing is there. I meen there is
> green threads and native threads packages.
> So maybe are these the wrong one, or maybe java is not well installed,
> or maybe something else.
>
> I wait for any proposition
>
> Thanke in advance
> Seb
Try setting the environment variable CLASSPATH to the file classes.jar
located in your JAVA directory, like this :
CLASSPATH=/usr/local/java/classes.zip ; export CLASSPATH
all things should be ok.
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux with the intel 810 chipset ???
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 07:43:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fabrice Agnello wrote:
>
> hi folks,
> I just have bought an HP Pavilion vith an intel 810 graphical chipset...
> I have 2 partitions on my HD, one for Win98 and the other for ... Linux.
>
> The linux distribution I had before I get this computer is the RedHat
> 5.2 which doesn't want to recognize my motherboard. I'd like to know if
> the last version of the kernel ( 2.2.3 methink ), and, say, the RedHat
> 6.0, will work with my system.
>
> I've ( not that much, I'll accept the blame ) tried to search info on
> the internet, but I didn't find anything satisfying.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Crunch. :-)
Intel says: "later this year".
try asking on:
news://newsgroups.intel.com/intel.graphics.intel810
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: insmod problems
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:34:59 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In my experience, the missing symbols normally come from another module which is
liable to be in ipv4 or net. Load that one first and things should be fine.
Being incredibly lazy, I tend to write mini-scripts to load the modules in the
correct order and then do whatever needs to be done, for example: script
'zipmount' looks something like:
insmod scsi
insmod ppa
mount /dev/sda4 /zip
ok?
John S. Gorman III wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> I recently compiled kernel version 2.2.12 on my PII box. Everything seems
> to be working fine. However, when I run 'insmod <module>' I get:
>
> /lib/modules/2.2.12/ipv4/<module>.o: unresolved symbol <symbol name>
>
> After the new kernel was compiled, I noticed that the System.map symlink was
> not updated in the /boot directory, nor was the module-info symlink.
> Although in the rc.sysinit there appears to be code for performing those two
> functions. I moved the System.map from /usr/src/linux/ to
> /boot/System.map-2.2.12 and created a symlink, but I don't know how to
> remedy the module-info problem. I am not sure if this would affect the
> 'insmod' or not, but just a little info.
>
> Please let me know if anyone has any insight on this issue. There are a
> couple of modules I would like to insert, but am not currently capable. I
> am running Redhat 6.0, and insmod version 2.1.121.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
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From: Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: two networks
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:45:25 +0100
When I do this, I try something along the lines of
'route add default gw ###.###.###.###' (the ip addr of the host) and this works -
perhaps you should try something along those lines. I have used Kppp a little and
I know its quite nice - but there is no substitute for the command line :-)
Michael Starkie wrote:
> Tony Green wrote:
>
> > You need to add a new gateway through the ppp device for anything outside of
> > your network
> >
> > Michael Starkie wrote:
> >
> > > I have a default getway specified for my ethernet device which is
> > > enabled and connected to an ethernet. When I dial up to another network,
> > > using ppp, I can't do anything on that new network. I think it is
> > > because I don't have a gateway or route set up for the new network.
> > > Does anyone have experience setting up their route tables for multiple
> > > networks. What do I need to do?
>
> I have done that using an interface to kppp. It still doesn't work. The
> information is not in my routing table. I think this is the problem but I'm not
> sure.
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SO 5.1 burps my HD
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:57:29 GMT
Tony Green wrote:
>
> I assume your looking for an answer other than 'AlkaSeltza'? :-)
No, the AlkaSeltza is for me :-)
> Perhaps its paging out - what level of free memory do you have?
Well, since I have only 64 megs of RAM, simply loading SO definitely
hits the swap. But I don't think that's what's causing this syndrome. If
I simply launch SO and do nothing else, it will burp every 10 seconds
for as long as SO is running.
- Steve
>
> Steve Gage wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Whenever I run StarOffice 5.1, my hard drive gives a little "burp" every
> > 10 seconds. Does anyone know what it's doing, and, more importantly, how
> > I can stop it? It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's actually quite
> > annoying.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: two networks
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 08:57:08 -0400
That's for sure. I didn't know you can assign the default gateway on the
fly.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects
Date: 2 Sep 1999 11:52:21 GMT
M van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthew Cline wrote:
>> 2) There will always be more C programmers that C++ programmers, since
>>
>> anyone who can program C++ can also program C. Thus, making a in C++
>> will prevent some of the development community from working on it.
>
>Sort of. C++ is a superset of C
Wrong. Compile this absolutely correct C program as C++:
int main(void)
{
int new;
return 0;
}
To the OP: choose the tools that help you get your work done.
Gergo
--
Olmstead's Law:
After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.
GU d- s:+ a--- C++>$ UL+++ P>++ L+++ E>++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R>+ tv++ b+>+++ DI+ D+ G>++ e* h! !r !y+
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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backspace with netscape
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 08:18:44 -0400
Have you tried the stty command ?
On our UNIX boxes at the office we use csh/tcsh
We add out stty commands to our .login files so that
each time we login they are run and activated.
...cwa
"Robert J. Schweikert" wrote:
> Alright,
>
> Still not fixed, his is kind of crazy but true. Whenever I shutdown Linux, don't ask
>why I don't really want too,
>
> but I only have one computer at this time and conflicting opinions about the OS that
>should be running all the time
>
> in the family. Anyway, upon restart I loose the BackSpace key in Netscape. My
>.xinitrc reads as follows:
>
> xmodmap -e "keycode 107 = Delete"
> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = osfBackSpace"
>
> I also tryied using xkeycaps which produced somekind of modemap file, I added a line
>to the .xinitrc as follows:
>
> xmodmap ~/.xmodmap -`rjschwei-n`
>
> This doesn't help either. I am running RH6.0 with Enlightenment as the window
>manager and the GENOME desktop. The fix
>
> I have is terrible, run xkeycaps, set the backspace key to backspace, write a new
>modemap file, restart enlightenment,
>
> and the finally restart Netscape. There's got to be a better way. I know I could
>automate this sequence but that would
>
> be a terrible hack job.
>
> So the question is, is the .xinitrc file ignored for what ever reason? Is there
>another file I shold use to get the
>
> modmap file read during start up? How can I make this permanent, such that the
>backspace key works ons start up?
>
> Thanks a bunch for any suggestions.
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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