Linux-Misc Digest #640, Volume #26 Tue, 26 Dec 00 13:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: opening an Xterm in a script? (Thomas Dickey)
Dazzle's Digital Photo & Video Maker Support Under Linux? (Young4ert)
Re: Only with Linux... (John Hasler)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (John Hasler)
samba ("Igor Borisovsky")
Re: for(;;) fork(); (Osiris)
High end simulation (Mike)
Re: useradd problem (phil)
Re: for(;;) fork(); (Robert Grizzard)
Re: Only with Linux... (Steve Lamb)
Re: Where to look for log file printing problems ? (Steve Yelvington)
KDE2.0.1 and Red Hat 7.0 (David Liana)
Re: Only with Linux... (Carl Fink)
Re: Only with Linux... (Carl Fink)
hP ScanJet 3300C ("dom")
Re: Only with Linux... ("Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS")
Re: samba ("Dan White")
Re: Only with Linux... (Steve Lamb)
Re: Upgrade to rpm 4.0 has problems ("Bill Piety")
Re: ? Move installed HD to other box ("Dan White")
Re: samba ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: moving users from one system to another... ("Dan White")
Re: ...wrong major or minor number ("Dan White")
unset password ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Only with Linux... (John Hasler)
Re: CD recorder detection problem... please help (George Schroeder)
Re: root login fails on tty11/12 (Richard NAGY)
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: opening an Xterm in a script?
Date: 26 Dec 2000 14:11:24 GMT
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #!/bin/sh
> cd $PWD && xterm &
no exactly:
#!/bin/sh
xterm +ls &
(if xterm is not a login-shell, it will run in the current directory,
also $PWD may/may not be defined, depending on the implementation of sh)
--
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dazzle's Digital Photo & Video Maker Support Under Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:10:03 GMT
Hi,
I just purchased a unit of Digital Photo & Video Maker made by Dazzle, see
the following site for the specs:
http://www.dazzle.com/products/photo.html
Does anyone have any idea if this product is currently supported under
Linux? Please post your response to the net.
TIA.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:43:55 GMT
Steve Lamb writes:
> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
Because we have been using since before 'print' became the default.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 13:31:04 GMT
elmig writes:
> Debian it's really easy to install! Just install the base system to allow
> booting in linux. Then run dselect. Select the packages you want and
> install everything from the net.
> Everytime you want to update your system just select update and install
> on dselect.
> Anything better than this?
Yes. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to upgrade your entire system, and
'apt-get install foo' to install or upgrade the package foo. Use gnome-apt
if you like GUI's or console-apt or aptitude if you prefer text UI's.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Igor Borisovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:44:34 +0300
Is it possible to configure samba server to work as domain controller?
===========================
Igor Borisovsky
Nizhny Novgorod
DataNaut Inc.
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From: Osiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 09:14:33 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Dec 2000 06:29:13 GMT in
<929drm$ql3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> To all those bragging about their uptime in their sigs:
>
> Try compiling and running the following program as non-privileged users:
>
> gcc frk.c
> ./a.out
>
> ----frk.c--------
>
> #include <unistd.h>
> int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>
> -----------------
>
>
> At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
> handle this.
Well, it just fills up the process table real fast. Since the default
maxprocs is 2048 for a user, it's no wonder it hoses the system a little.
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: High end simulation
Date: 26 Dec 2000 06:20:53 -0800
Question:
I specing a high end simulation, (Military scenario), I have a requirment to use
PC's with Linux and OpenGL support. Any one care to comment on Linux, video
cards, and PC base imaage generators. I have min poly's but heavy use of life
size texture maps.
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: useradd problem
Date: 26 Dec 2000 16:30:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin -[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]- spewed forth
the following lines of wisdom:
>Actually, I tried to use sudo for granting the "useradd" to the standard
>user, but I get the same error that same as I didn't use sudo, what is the
>problem with it ?
>
>And does anyone know the correct way to use sudo with granting the
>"useradd" to standard user ?
sudo useradd works perfectly for me, you sure you have correct entries in
/etc/sudoers.
If you're trying to let normal users run useradd, it won't work, you need
write access to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow which only root should have.
Phil.
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From: Robert Grizzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: for(;;) fork();
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 09:56:44 -0600
Osiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Dec 2000 06:29:13 GMT in
> <929drm$ql3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> To all those bragging about their uptime in their sigs:
>>
>> Try compiling and running the following program as non-privileged users:
>>
>> gcc frk.c
>> ./a.out
>>
>> ----frk.c--------
>>
>> #include <unistd.h>
>> int main() { for(;;) fork(); return 0; }
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>>
>> At least the standard redhat kernel configuration/compilation can't
>> handle this.
> Well, it just fills up the process table real fast. Since the default
> maxprocs is 2048 for a user, it's no wonder it hoses the system a little.
When I was playing with this new computer last year, I typed
"cat > crashit
#!/bin/bash
$0& $0&
^D"
for the same effect and ran it. System load went over 250, but I was still
able to stop the running jobs (after a while) with "killall -9 crashit". As
a point of reference, my tired old 486 DX4-100 didn't get into the double
digits, but I had to power cycle it to recover it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:11:04 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:10:29 -0500, Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>If you read the first edition of the manual page, you would see why people,
>once they found a way to get the program to work at all, never changed how
>they did it. Newer manual pages are much better.
I can respect that given my first, second, etc experience with tar. :/
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: Steve Yelvington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to look for log file printing problems ?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 15:57:51 GMT
Emmanuel Beranger wrote:
> I have a printing problem, that I can't get to solve :
> I set my printer with printtool, under mandrake 7.02, with 2.2.17 kernel.
> with the printtool, I can get ASCII , but not ps test page get printed,
> while I can get the page via direct port (lp0)
> I can see the ASCII file in the queue, but never the ps ....
> my printer is an EPSON 800, which should work.
>
> My printcap file uses the redhat filter, which is the part I suspect not
> working, (hence the fact I don't see the ps file ...). But how can I trace
> things ?
Well, you're using the wrong printing system for Mandrake 7. The new
Mandrake releases use CUPS, not the old Redhat stuff.
See http://localhost:631 (the CUPS interface on your computer).
--
http://prattle.sourceforge.net/
PHP/mySQL discussion software, GPLed
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From: David Liana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: KDE2.0.1 and Red Hat 7.0
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:28:45 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I sucessfully (I think) installed KDE 2.0.1 on Red Hat 7.0. I have 2
problems:
1. Some of the icons in the K menu are bigger than others. How do I
force all icons in the menu to be the same size? (It just looks stupid
to have non-uniform sizes)
2. How do I get KPPP to run as a normal user? Everytime I want to
connect, I have to run it as root?
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: 26 Dec 2000 16:23:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 05:24:43 -0000 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
Actually I never use -print unless I'm also using some other flag
that would prevent printing. However, I used Debian. I wasn't sure
that the defaults on other systems would match the ones on my Debian
system, and I only have the most minimal experience with other Linux
flavors.
(Yes, I know that the "find" I'm running is GNU find, but Debian
package maintainers often compile with nonstandard options as
default.)
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: 26 Dec 2000 16:25:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 07:23:52 GMT Brad Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If RPM was used, why not examine the output of a 'rpm -ql emacs' to list
>exactly what files have been installed, rather than guesing at filenames
>and searching the entire filesystem for them?
I don't know RPM -- I'm a Debian user. So I gave a suggestion that
should work on any Linux system.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
<http://dm.net>
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From: "dom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hP ScanJet 3300C
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:45:55 -0500
Anyone know how to get a HP usb scanner working under mandrake 7.1?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
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From: "Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:55:59 -0600
"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 26 Dec 2000 01:22:35 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > find / -name emacs -print
>
> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
>
Some *NIXs require it.
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:00:29 GMT
In article <3a48b055$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Igor Borisovsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to configure samba server to work as domain controller?
>
> ---------------------------
> Igor Borisovsky Nizhny Novgorod DataNaut Inc.
>
>
>
Yes,
See http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/ under 'Other Documentation'.
- Dan White
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:11:04 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 10:55:59 -0600, Block Iron & Supply Co - CIS
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On 26 Dec 2000 01:22:35 GMT, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > find / -name emacs -print
>> You know, I never understood why people insist on -print on a find.
>Some *NIXs require it.
Well given we're in comp.os.linux.misc and the title os "Only with
Linux..." I think it is safe to assume that, just maybe, the person is using
Linux. I know find doesn't require -print on Debian, Slackware and Stampede
so I'm willing to even bet that it is the standard compile option for gnu
find.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: "Bill Piety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade to rpm 4.0 has problems
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:12:11 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chet Vora"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I upgraded my rpm3.03 of RH6.2 to Rpm4.0 using gnorpm. When doing the
> upgrade, it didn't complain. Now when I run gnorpm, it says -
> "error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined
> symbol: ufdio"
>
> Any pointers on what I can do. I saw people mention on here that upgrade
> to
> 3.0.5-9.6 works better - is that true ?
>
> Also, the reason I was trying the upgrade was that gnorpm was giving me
> "only packages with major nos <= 3 are supported by this version of RPM"
> when trying to install ddd3.2.1.rpm. Anyone's been able to install that
> successfully ?
>
> TIA, Chet
Sure hope you've resolved your rpm prob by now, but if not here's what I
did. Went to the rpm ftp site where all available versions have been
stored & incrementally upgraded rpm until I hit 3.0.5-x, which seems to be
the threshhold for dealing with the next generation rpm pkgs. Avoided
dependency issues which would have complicated a direct upgrade. I was
very cautious & did my rebuilddb manually following each upgrade. Used RH
builds til the end when I crossed back to a Mandrake (I'm at 7.1 still).
Also added a bzip lib pkg to put off the bzip2 upgrade - which itself
would have had dependency issues. 1 or 2 possibly unncecessary steps are
nothing compared to a useless rpm. Been there & won't do it again.
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ? Move installed HD to other box
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:13:57 GMT
When moving drives between machines, the lilo documentation recommends
rerunning LILO, since the two BIOS's may see the drives as having
different geometries. Also, LILO (on floppy, or in MBR) will fail because
it is expecting to find the 2nd stage loader on the second BIOS drive
(0x81), but there is none in the new machine.
When you install linux on the 2nd drive, in the first system, try
unplugging the first drive, then installing your drive as hda. If that
still fails in the new system, try creating a rescue disk. A redhat disk,
or debian disk should work. Then mount your drive in the new system
from the rescue disk, and run lilo -r <new mount point>, e.g. 'lilo -r /mnt'
to reinstall lilo.
- Dan White
In article <92a4pn$6mv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got no CD reader, so I borrowed a box with one, and installed
> RedHat 6.2 for my friend, and also a copy to a HD of mine.
>
> Initially I did installs to both /dev/hdaX and /dev/hdbY with one using
> floopy boot, and the other using mbr LILO.
>
> When I moved the /dev/hdbY plus its 'matching' boot floppy to test on a
> 386 machine (from 486) it had errors ?? So I reinstalled this same HD as
> /dev/hdaX with mbr LILO booting.
>
> Now when I move this /dev/hdaX to my (hopefully final destination)
> 486 machine, it again gives the same LI.O.O. garbage !!
>
> When I boot my 486-box via floppy Slakware, linux is at
> /dev/hdb2 ? or 3 and try to 'see' the 'new' /dev/hda;
> fdisk sees it OK, and /dev/hda1 = FAT16 is mounted OK
> (by the previous setup, which had a FAT16 /dev/hda1),
> but I can't mount any of the RH6.2 partitions.
> ---
> bash# mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt/tmp EXT2-fs: 03:06: couldn't mount
> because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad
> option, bad superblock on /dev/hda6,
> or too many mounted file systems
> ---
> I can mount the one Slakware partition on /dev/hda. BTW RH6.2 was able
> to mount a Slakware partition (which I viewed). It seems that RH62 can
> mount Slakware, but not vise-versa ?
>
> Does it matter that the CD and floppies are configured differently, on
> the 'run' machine than on the 'install' machine, as far as failling to
> boot (via LILO mbr) ? It seems to crash BEFORE it sees mtab, fstab ?
>
> How can I install on the box with the CD-reader and move the HD to my
> box, for use ?
>
> Advice/instructions greatly appreciated, also emailed to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] , in case I miss this Nwsgroup.
>
> Chris Glur.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: samba
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:13:12 GMT
In article <3a48b055$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Igor Borisovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to configure samba server to work as domain controller?
http://bioserve.latrobe.edu.au/samba/ntdomfaq.html and others.
- tony
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving users from one system to another...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:29:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Miguel De Buf"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am not shure if I am on the correct newsgroup, but here is my question
> :
>
> I have one server (RH5.2), and want to move all users on that system to
> another server (RH6.2), so they keep their passwd's, and can login at
> the new server.
>
> Thx,
>
> Miguel
>
>
On the old system, run 'setup' and turn off shadowed and md5 passwords
under authentication. Then on the new server, do the same. Backup
/etc/passwd on the new system, then copy passwd from old system to
new system, and reinstalle shadowed or md5 passwords if you like.
If you want to copy over your /home data:
tar --preserve --same-owner -cvzf home.tar.gz /home/*
Then copy home.tar.gz into / on the new system:
tar --preserve --same-owner -xvzf home.tar.gz
- Dan White
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ...wrong major or minor number
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:32:07 GMT
The obviuos question, are sure you're mounting the right partition
number?
Try 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to see which partitions are valid.
- Dan White
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I can not remenber I have done anything concerning /dev/hda (except
> enabling dma by default in kernel). But since a few days I get error
> $subject when I try to mount my windows partitions.
> "/" and "/boot" arre not making any trouble...
>
> /dev/hda is my only harddisk
> using RedHat 6.2 The numbers are as same as while installation
>
>
> pepe
> (who is soory about his english ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unset password
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:32:23 GMT
how can i unset password, or do i have to recreate the account?
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only with Linux...
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:02:43 GMT
Jean-David Beyer writes:
> Us old-timers (from the early 1970s using the UNIX O.S.) insist on it
> because, without it, you got no output (or an error message, I forget
> which).
No output. Frustrating, when a slow find runs for twenty minutes before
you realize that you forgot the 'print'.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Schroeder)
Subject: Re: CD recorder detection problem... please help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Dec 2000 09:55:53 -0800
See the CD-Writing-HOWTO at
http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/
On 26 Dec 2000 11:22:10 GMT, LuisMiguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (-ljl-) wrote in <91804g$ibh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
:
:>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:> Jacek Chmielewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>...
:>
:>> [ . . ]
:>
:>I think Creative's 8432 designation means 8x4x32, and they
:>have sold, at least, two different manufacturers drive using
:>it (Plextor & Samsung). This means that just because the box
:>says 8432 this doesn't mean their is an 8432E inside.
:
:[...]
:
:Hello,
:
:i have a new Traxdata 8x4x32 (IDE) burner but i don't know wich options to
:slect in the kernel so it can appear as SCSI device. Can you give me some
:tips?
:
:cdrecord -scanbus doesn't detect me CDRW.
:
:It's my first CD recorder...
:Tanx in advance,
:
:--
:+--------------------------------+
:|elmig |
:|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
:|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
:+--------------------------------+
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From: Richard NAGY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root login fails on tty11/12
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 19:08:23 +0100
Tyler Larson a �crit :
> I recently modified my inittab file so that it runs gettys on F11 and F12.
> It all works fine and dandy, just as I had expected, except it doesn't
> allow me to login as root on those last two-- just F1-F6. I imagine that
> there's some security lockout that specifies which ttys I can log in on
> as root, but I'm not sure where that data would be stored. Any suggestions?
> Or am I way off?
>
> I'm running RH6.2 with kernel 2.2.18 (horray for USB support!)
>
> BTW, here are the lines from /etc/inittab (for what its worth)
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
> 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
> 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
> 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
> 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
> 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
> 11:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty11
> 12:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty12
>
> And is there any way to use more than 12 local login sessions? Not
> that I'd need to, but I'd heard that you can have a whole slew of 'em.
> I can't figure out how you'd access them, though. I only see 12 function
> keys. :-)
>
> --
> Tyler Larson | http://www.tlarson.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Time and tide wait for no man.
Have a look in /etc/securetty ...
--
Richard NAGY
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