Linux-Misc Digest #711, Volume #21 Tue, 7 Sep 99 04:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't start X fonts server (Bob Tennent)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Richard Steiner)
Re: ZIP parallel port mounting kernel 2.2 (Robert Kiesling)
how to load modules without compiling kernel (Joseph H Zieniewicz)
Re: KDE: Backspace deletes chars to the RIGHT of cursor. (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Linux and I2O? (Wine Development)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (John Hasler)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (John Hasler)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (John Hasler)
Changing RPM target Directory? (Greg F Walz Chojnacki)
Re: using the zip drive (Robert Kiesling)
can't load libXt.so.6 (Joseph H Zieniewicz)
Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Edward Westin)
using the zip drive ("Proxima")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Igor Kovalenko)
licq (Big Daddy)
Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron... (OldUncleMe)
Upgrade RH5.2 to RH6.0 from the network without CDROM?? (Bo Berglund)
help!! connection reset by peer (SAMBA) ("Frank Bauer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Can't start X fonts server
Date: 7 Sep 1999 02:57:45 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca
On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:41:15 +0800, Victor Lee wrote:
> I have currently upgrade the Xserver from 3.3.3 to 3.3.5. After I
>execute the preinst.sh, extract and finally postinst.sh., I can execute
>XF86Setup and set the config successfully. But when I reboot the
>machine, it hangs at the startup. It stops at the place where it is
>trying to start the X fonts server. What can I do to correct this
>problem?
>
Check the catalogue of font directories in the config file,
which may be at /etc/X11/fs/config. If any of those
directories don't exist, comment out or delete that line.
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 19:24:54 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)
spake unto us, saying:
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:16:04 -0700, K. Bjarnason
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Yes, yes, *you* like command-lines and switches. So do *I*. About 98%
>>of the desktop users out there do NOT; they want it point-and-click
>>easy; compare your method above to "click on setup.exe or the .EXE file
>>you just downloaded."
>
>Then they shouldn't be using Linux.
Very well stated. If people don't like the command line, then Linux is
*NOT* an appropriate operating system for them at this time.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Crime, Sex, Alcohol, Drugs... God, I love Congress!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: ZIP parallel port mounting kernel 2.2
Date: 7 Sep 1999 03:15:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7r1cvn$9rg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>SCSI support:
> SCSI support M
> SCSI disk support M
> IOMEGA parallel port (ppa - older drives) M
>
> # Zip parallel type
> scsi_mod
> sd_mod
> ppa
If your Zip drive cable says "AutoDetect" on one end, that means you
have a Zip Plus with the Iomega Matchmaker circuitry instead of the
PPA , so you need to install the imm module instead of the ppa module.
I'm not sure what the configuration option for that would be, though.
There should be kernel config options for both the newer and older
drives in the SCSI low-level driver section of the config menu. I
would specify both as modules, and try each of 'em to see which works.
Robert Kiesling
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From: Joseph H Zieniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to load modules without compiling kernel
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:59:13 -0400
I have the cdrom module mcd.o and would like to load the module when
linux
boots and would like to load the module without re-compiling the kernel.
Is this possible? What is the procedure if possible?
Thanks in advance.
jozien
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: KDE: Backspace deletes chars to the RIGHT of cursor.
Date: 7 Sep 1999 03:30:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
> I have just installed RH6.0 and using KDE 1.1.
>Whenever I am editing text (eg, in KEdit, or the URL box
>in Netscape), the Backspace key deletes characters to
>the RIGHT of the cursor position, rather than to the LEFT.
>
>Is it possible to change this behaviour? I want chars to the
>LEFT to be deleted.
In the "keyboard" section of the /etc/XF86Config file, you should
see the configuration that X is using for your keyboard. The
options that you can use there are listed in the XF86Config
man page, and the man page for your X server. The "xkeycaps"
program, which is on metalab.unc.edu (I think) can also help
if none of the standard options and layouts seem to work.
Robert Kiesling
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From: Wine Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and I2O?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:08:45 +0100
Steve Browne wrote:
>
> Do the latest Linux kernels support I2O? I'm planning to set up an I2O
> motherboard (SuperMicro P6DLH w/ i960) if Linux can take advantage of
> this system. Thank you.
>
> Steve
> Stephen B. Browne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alan Cox is working on this and having a fair bit of trouble at times.
Should be in the 2.4 kernel.
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Oracle development & database administration
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:18:31 GMT
Donovan Rebbechi writes:
> What usually happens is this: the application will not install shared
> libraries into the system directory. You install the shared libraries
> seperately.
However, if you are installing a Debian package on a Debian system apt will
determine what libraries (and other dependencies) are needed and fetch and
install them for you.
> Which is why applications usually don't install "standard" shared
> libraries in their own directories.
And properly packaged applications don't have application directories.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:12:46 GMT
David Steinberg writes:
> If you got RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE, you'll probably use RPM. Debian or
> Corel (soon), you'll use DEB.
And, of course, 'alien' to convert from one to the other.
> Why can't a package be input to a single program that deals with it?
> Wouldn't it be easier if installing or uninstalling a package was done
> the same way each time, using the same program?
Particularly since the package may not be on the local machine at all.
With Windows it would appear that the user must somehow get the package
onto her pc first. With Debian I just point apt at an archive out on the
net (or on my machine) and type 'apt-get install package-name' (as
delivered, apt is already pointed at the local CD as well as the Debian
archive of nearly 4000 packages).
> Oh, so it's [MSI] a "new inovation."
I.e., a smudged attempt at a copy of RPM, created by pasting some
"improvements" on top of the the existing system.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:32:11 GMT
K. Bjarnason writes:
> Oh, I see. Linux *doesn't* do this any better than Windows,...
>From your description, I'd say that Microsoft is trying very hard to catch
up to Linux in package management. What is the MS equivalent of
'apt-get dist-upgrade'? 'apt-get source --compile'?
> ...so you're simply spewing for the sake of making noise. :)
You figure it's ok to accuse someone of "spewing" as long as you hang a
smiley on the end?
--
John Hasler This posting is in the public domain.
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From: Greg F Walz Chojnacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing RPM target Directory?
Date: 7 Sep 1999 04:19:11 GMT
I tried to install StarOfice from a CDROM RPM, and learned that my /
directory didn't have enough space. I'd like to direct the RPM to create a
/usr/local/opt/Office51 directory, rather than /opt/Office51, which is what
it apparently wants to do.
Is there a straightforward way to do this?
Thanks.
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: using the zip drive
Date: 7 Sep 1999 03:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <JD%A3.1445$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Proxima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi ..
>I have a 100 MB IDE internal zip drive. It gets detected as hdd when Linux
>is loading but I don't know how to access it .
>Any help appreciated
>Thanks
Try "mount /dev/hdd4 /mnt", although you may have to specify
the file system type, too (should be "msdos"). I don't know
why Zip drives come preformatted on the fourth partition instead
of the first, but I've heard it's for compatibility with Macs.
Actually, you should try mounting /dev/hdd1-/dev/hdd4... one of those
parititons should contain the file system.
Robert Kiesling
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From: Joseph H Zieniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't load libXt.so.6
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:47:25 -0400
I installed Netscape comm451.tar from a cd-rom I obtained at PC_Expo in
NYC
at the netscape pavilion so I assume it is good.
It was installed on Caldera 2.2 distribution that I also obtained at
PC-Expo.
I couldn't run the netscape that came with caldera 2.2, same error.
When I try to run it, I get the
error:
can't load libXt.so.6
libXt.so.6 is located in /usr/X11R6/lib so why do I get the error?
I tried to install netscape from other distributions and get the same
error.
jozien
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Westin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS?
Date: 7 Sep 1999 04:40:46 GMT
On 30 Aug 1999 11:00:41 -0500, Francis R Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This was true of Win3.*, but I believe Win9* is better. I recall some
>years ago when I upgraded from a 33 to 66 MHz i486. The Chip was cold to
>the touch when linux was idle, and got a bit warm when doing a big GCC. I
>then fired up Win 3.1 with just the desktop running. I touched the CPU and
>ended up with the intel 'i' burned onto my finger...
Francis,
You really have a wonderful sense of humor; it kinda made my day and
I felt it was only proper to thank you. :-)
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From: "Proxima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using the zip drive
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:27:35 -0700
Hi ..
I have a 100 MB IDE internal zip drive. It gets detected as hdd when Linux
is loading but I don't know how to access it .
Any help appreciated
Thanks
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From: Igor Kovalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:54:51 -0500
Guy Macon wrote:
>
> In article <cOzA3.16492$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John or
>Jenn) wrote:
> >
> >In article <7qugrr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guy Macon,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>If you were writing code that
> >>kills people when it's wrong, (and an unexpected 1 millisecond delay might
> >>be enough to kill)
> >
> >Ha! I used to write code that was intended to kill people when it was
> >right! Maybe the wrong people, if it were wrong. ;-)
>
> Me too. I did a lot of work on the AV8B harrier jump jet and the
> MX Missle. Even in those cases, the software could kill people
> that you didn't want to kill, so we were still worried about
> writing code that kills [the wrong] people when it's wrong.
> You really want to avoid flying the plane into a mountain at
> high speed or sending the missle to Moscow, Idaho instead of
> Moscow, USSR.
Gee, that assumes people in Moscow USSR are "right" people. Well some of
them sure are. But by the time you did that, I used to write something
what could consider Moscow Idaho as a good target ;v]
Thankfully, software never works as expected, so both Moscows are still
around
- igor
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: licq
Date: 7 Sep 1999 06:10:55 GMT
Hi, all. Trying to figure out if there's a way to disable playing events
when the user status is set to N/A in licq 0.7f. I stay in N/A for a
reason: I don't wanna hear the damn noise. ;-) But SOMETIMES, I do
(e.g. when "online"), so if there's any other way than simply completely
taking off the play option OnEvent, that'd be cool. later......
--
Big Daddy
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OldUncleMe)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:38:14 GMT
It was: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:36:03 +0200 and with STARTLING insight,
"Artur Swietanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
posted "Re: Dual Pentium II shows as Dual Celeron..."
to "comp.os.linux.setup" :
-->Greg Leblanc wrote:
-->> (...) L1 is internal cache. It's ON THE PROCESSOR CORE.
-->> L2 cache is (...) NOT on the processor core, and therefore is
-->> NOT internal cache. (...) the external cache is now a part of
-->> the processor.
-->
-->This is some kind of Intel newspeak that I was not aware of (till
-->now). If you read the above, you'll see that L2 which is a part of
-->the processor, is called external. To me that's an oxymoron.
-->
-->Thanks for claryfying my confusion,
-->---------------------------------------------------------------------
-->Artur Swietanowski
L1 in most pc's cpu is built into to the actual processor, where L2 is on
the motherboard or on the board to which the cpu is mounted (in the case
of P2 and P3 intel processors.) In some other pc processors, L2 cache is
actually part of the cpu package so it is then internal, where on the p2
and p3 intel processors it is external (physically) to the cpu, being
mounted on the cpu's circuit board....
tenox @ home dat com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Upgrade RH5.2 to RH6.0 from the network without CDROM??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 06:18:31 GMT
Hi,
I have a RH5.2 system without a CD-ROM and now I want to upgrade it to
RH6.0. But how can I go about it?
The Linux box is on my internal network and is visible through Samba
so I could in principle copy the CD from my WinNT machine over to the
Linux hard disk. But there is a problem: I don't have enough disk
space to store the complete CD.
So I wonderf:
1) Can I copy a subset of the RH6 CD to the hard disk for the upgrade,
in that case which files and directories should be copied?
1A) If I run the installation from the hard disk, how do I specify for
Linux setup that the files are on the hard disk? Command spec please.
2) Is it possible to install via the network? I mean can I access my
shared CDROM on my WinNT4 machine during setup and get the files from
there? I guess that this is a more difficult way but it would save
disk space. I don't have NFS on the NT machine.
TIA
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: "Frank Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.smb,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: help!! connection reset by peer (SAMBA)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:20:24 +0200
since update from Kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.10 (Distr. SuSE) we've got big
problems with getting disconnections from our samba server.
the most important entry in smb.log: (I think so)
[1999/09/06 09:30:59, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_socket_data(507)
read_socket_data: recv failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer
[1999/09/06 09:30:59, 1] smbd/server.c:exit_server(406)
Closing connections
does anyone know how to correct this?
Thanks
Frank
Our Samba Version 2.0.5b (current release according to samba.org)
our smb.conf
[global]
workgroup = BB3
server string = Samba Server
guest account = nobody
keep alive = 30
os level = 2
# war vorher security = user und Zeile mit password server ist neu
security = server
password server = 192.168.21.1
printing = bsd
printcap name = /etc/printcap
load printers = yes
encrypt passwords = yes
smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd
# oplocks = yes
# fake oplocks = no
socket options = TCP_NODELAY
dead time = 30
read prediction = yes
read raw = yes
write raw = yes
getwd cache = yes
debug level = 2
max log size = 1000
create mode = 755
directory mode = 755
dos filetimes = yes
dos filetime resolution = yes
case sensitive = no
short preserve case = yes
preserve case = yes
interfaces = 192.168.21.2/255.255.255.0
wins support = no
wins server = 192.168.21.1
local master = no
[homes]
create mode = 0750
writable = yes
comment = Heimatverzeichnis
browseable = no
locking = no
[printers]
comment = All Printers
browseable = no
printable = yes
public = no
read only = yes
create mode = 0700
directory = /tmp
[FUER_ALLE]
writable = yes
comment = Installierte Programme
path = /FOR_ALL
browseable = yes
locking = no
write list = @nogroup,@users
user = @users,@nogroup
public = yes
[DATEN]
delete readonly = yes
writable = yes
comment = Daten
path = /DATEN
public = yes
create mask = 0766
directory mask = 0777
[Data]
delete readonly = yes
writable = yes
path = /DATEN/daten
public = yes
create mask = 0766
directory mask = 0777
our hardware:
AMD K6-2-350, 256 MB RAM, IPC Vortex Raid-Controller, Intel EtherExpress
Pro100+, Asus P5AB, S3 VGA
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