Linux-Misc Digest #717, Volume #21                Tue, 7 Sep 99 16:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Philip S Tellis)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution ("Paul E. Bell")
  Re: Shutdown Problem (Chris Butler)
  Re: Color LaserJet 5 + RH6.0 (Andrew Robinson)
  Re: using the zip drive (Leonard Evens)
  Re: cd-rw through parallel (Mircea)
  Re: Problems with "LILO" Please Help (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Installing GNUCash ("Kerry J. Cox")
  RealAudio v.5 help (Peter Schaffter)
  Re: Changing RPM target Directory? (Leonard Evens)
  help with automounting ("Kirk R. Wythers")
  Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? (Indica)
  Re: PPP (Timothy)
  For Sale: SPARC LX Workstations $50.00!!! (Anon314)

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From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 00:08:34 +0530

"Paul E. Bell" wrote:
> 
> "Robert M. Cosby" wrote:
> > 8< Snip >8
[snip]

> automatically be loaded into whatever program is associated with it, nor
> do I have the choice to override that choice when I right-click on it
> (once associated, Open With disappears from the menu and Open appears).
> I have no choice but to find the program I want to open it and load it
> from that program.
> 

Actually, you could do a Shift+Rightclick to get teh Open With.  Also
Shift+F10.  This however, would go in a different newsgroup.

Philip

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From: "Paul E. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:29:36 -0500

Jon Skeet wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > On the PC, there is no mechanism to define a file which happens to have
> > been saved in text mode with the extension .html as being plain text,
> 
> <snip>
> 
> You keep talking about "the PC" as if there's only one operating system
> for it. Sure, Windows only cares about file extensions, but that's not
> the only option. I believe that BeOS keeps a mime type associated with
> every file, which sounds a pretty good idea to me. Linux will colour
> directory listings just based on extension, but most other things don't
> rely on extensions at all - not executables, not documents, not config
> files, not zip files... xv is quite happy to understand images based on
> their magic numbers rather than their extensions...
> 
> In short - don't attribute to the PC everything that is wrong with
> Windows.

That may be, but, I would say that, most likely, at least 75-80% of the
"PC"s out there are running DOS/some form of Windows.  Somewhere I have
a beta version of BeOS on a CD, but I am not yet willing to give up
using the programs I use daily to try out either Linux or BeOS.  I am
having a difficult enough time finding all the things I had installed
before the last Windows crash and re-installation without attempting to
find equivalents in the Be and Linux communities (nor can I afford to
replace the computer or the software at this time).
-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Butler)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Shutdown Problem
Date: 7 Sep 1999 17:26:21 +0100

[comp.os.linux.development.apps - 6 Sep 1999 18:28:04 -0500] * Peter wrote *
> are in many smaller systems.  /etc does need to be in / for bootstrap
> and recovery reasons (have to read /etc/fstab pretty early...) but /var

A rather ugly (but possible) hack:

Create a /lib/bootstrap-etc directory (or similar), place in it everything
needed to get to the point where filesystems are mounted, including fstab.

Have an /etc directory in the root partition, which contains symlinks to the
files in /lib/bootstrap-etc. [0]

Create a partition for /etc, and mount it _over the top of_ the /etc 
directory. [1]

Modify startup scripts to mount /etc instead of remounting / read-write. It
should handle it fine from there.. [2]

[0] This just makes it possible to edit the bootstrap files once the /etc
    filesystem has been mounted.
[1] In Linux (at least), mounting a filesystem on a directory that contains
    files will "hide" the files in that directory..
[2] The same issues exist here as with a read-only root FS (as it is initially
    read-only on boot). The startup scripts should make sure that the
    /etc/mtab file is accurate after the root fs has been remounted..
-- 
Chris Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Color LaserJet 5 + RH6.0
Date: 07 Sep 1999 14:31:05 -0400

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have no experience with the HP ColorLaserJet but I would presume
> it is a postscript printer, since all the color laser printers
> seem to support postscript. [...]

Just a side note... not all color laser printers support postscript,
so be careful when selecting a color laser printer to use with Linux.
An example is the QMS magicolor 2 DeskLaser, which uses special
Windows 95/98/NT drivers.  More expensive versions of that printer
(magicolor 2 CX, DX, and EX) do support PostScript.

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using the zip drive
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:24:25 -0500

Proxima wrote:
> 
> Hi ..
> I have a 100 MB IDE internal zip drive. It gets detected as hdd when Linux
> is loading but I don't know how to access it .
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks
Try
mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip
where you would first have to create the directory /mnt/zip.
(Or you could call it whatever you want or put it anywhere
you want.)   You might also consider using type -t ext2, but
then you would have to use mkfs to put a Linux file system on
the disk.   When you purchase zip disks, you usually get
Windows formatted disks, and these already are formatted 
so type vfat will work.  Also, it allows for tranferring
from Linux to Windows systems.

If you are going to use this frequently you should put an
appropriate entry in /etc/fstab.  You can do this directly
or through use of linuxconf.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cd-rw through parallel
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:13:39 -0400

Parallel port CD-writers are not supported yet, IIRC. You might want to
check the latest version of the CD-Writing-HOWTO at:
http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/

MST


Jeb Bolding wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any successful experiences burning CDs through the parallel
> port?
> 
> I'm running out of the box RH 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5-15)  I did not monkey
> with recompiling the kernel, so I'm not sure about support for burning
> CDs.
> 
> What kind of cd writers would anyone suggest (that are parallel of
> course).
> 
> jeb

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with "LILO" Please Help
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:49:11 -0500

Todd Lenderman wrote:
> 
> I am using Caldera Open Linux with Windows 98 on a 13 gig harddrive.
> I am try to be able to boot to either operating system. When in Linux
> and I try to install LILO I get this error
> 
> The following error has occurred
> 
> Problems has occured during the LILO installation.

Normally, the lilo boot loader can only access cylinders
below cylinder 1024.   This is because it assumes your
BIOS uses a routine which can only do that, and the lilo
boot loader uses the BIOS routine since the Linux kernel
has not yet been loaded.  The Linux kernel has no problem
reading the entire disk.

> 
> Warning : Device 0x0306 Exceeds 1024 Cylinder Limit
> 
> geo_comp_addr : cylinder number is to big (1418 > 1023)
> 
> I think Linux is telling me my harddrive is too big.

In some sense all new disks are `too big'.  The disk geometry
seen by various programs is not the true geometry and a variety
of means are used to remap disk geometry.  See the mini HOWTO
on Large disks if you want to learn more about the complexities
involved.

> How do I work around this problem.

There is a reasonable chance that if you add the linear option
to lilo.conf, then it will work, so try that.  (See the man
page for lilo.conf.)  This could be the case if your BIOS
has the capability of accessing cylinders beyond 1024, as
is the case for the most recent BIOSs.

If not you may have to repartition your disk so that you have
at least a small partition (10 MB or so) all below the 1024
cylinder limit.  Then you would mount /boot on this.  This is
all described in the RedHat installation documentation and I
assume Caldera also provides such documentation.

Note that /boot is a subdirectory of /, and if not mounted
from a separate partition, you would have to have all of the
/ partition below the 1024 cylinder limit.

> 
> Thanks....for your help
> 
> Todd
> 
> *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
> 
> remove * to send e-mail

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Installing GNUCash
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 09:48:49 -0600

Hello, I posted the exact same message here a few days ago.  So far no
replies.  I sent an email to the developers since the page was also down
but haven't heard anything. 
I have, however, been successful in getting moneydance up and running
and it looks great.  Now to get my wife to move to Linux.
If you need instructions on getting moneydance to work, just email me.
KJ
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"R�mi FACKEURE" wrote:
> 
> Hello !
> 
> I'm quite new with Linux and i'd like to install gnucash 1.2.3 to manage my
> money :)
> 
> I run a redhat 6.0 with the 2.2.10 kernel and i'm unable to compile/install
> gnucash :(
> 
> I do not have motif, so i tried to install lesstif, i installed the
> 0.87.0-1.rpm and the devel package but bad luck, those don't work with
> gnucash, i do not find the 0.88.1 in rpm package :(
> 
> could somebody help me finding and installing the various packages needed
> by gnucash ?
> 
> thanks a lot in advance
> 
> ------------------  Posted via CNET Linux Help  ------------------
>                     http://www.searchlinux.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Schaffter)
Subject: RealAudio v.5 help
Date: 7 Sep 1999 19:17:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I downloaded the RealAudio player version 5.0 for Linux from
the RealAudio website.  To my dismay, I discovered that the
executable seems to be linked to libg++27 and libstdc++2.7.

Space is at a premium on my HD, and I don't want to install the
old libc5 just in order to get libg++27 and libstdc++2.7 on my
system so I can run RealAudio v.5. (Currently, I have libg++272,
libstdc++2.8, and libstdc++2.9; Debian distro.)

Why is RealAudio v.5 linked against the older libc5 instead of
libc6?  And does anyone know of a RA version that _is_ linked
against libc6?

Thanks.

-- 
PTPi
(Peter Schaffter)

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing RPM target Directory?
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:33:27 -0500

Greg F Walz Chojnacki wrote:
> 
> I tried to install StarOfice from a CDROM RPM, and learned that my /
> directory didn't have enough space. I'd like to direct the RPM to create a
> /usr/local/opt/Office51 directory, rather than /opt/Office51, which is what
> it apparently wants to do.
> 
> Is there a straightforward way to do this?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Greg
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     UW-Milwaukee News Services & Publications    414/229-4454
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Check the man page for rpm.  In particular look at the install
options --relocate and --badreloc.   Whether or not these work
might depend on how the rpm package was configured.  If you
study the rpm man page further, you may find a way of finding
out precisely what the installation script will do.  That way
you can avoid unexpected contingencies.

Or, more simply, you can just make a symbolic link from
/opt to some other location where you have sufficient room.
On my machine /opt is a link to /home/opt and I installed
applix there without problem, although I don't remember whether
or not it used and rpm package.  However, as far as I know,
to any routine which copies, untars, etc. files, a symbolic
link to a directory looks like a directory with the name of
the link.
-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "Kirk R. Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with automounting
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:11:17 -0500

 I am trying to auto mount an msdos partition. The partition in question
is on sda2 (according to fdisk). I changed my fstab file to look like
this:

/dev/sdb9               /                       ext2    defaults
1 1
/dev/sdb1               /boot                   ext2    defaults
1 2
/dev/sdb6               /home                   ext2    defaults
1 2
/dev/sdb5               /usr                    ext2    defaults
1 2
/dev/sdb7               /var                    ext2    defaults
1 2
/dev/sdb8               swap                    swap    defaults
0 0
/dev/sda2               /dosf                   msdos   defaults
0 0
/dev/fd0                 /mnt/floppy             ext2    noauto
0 0
/dev/cdrom             /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 noauto,ro       0
0
none                       /proc                   proc
defaults        0 0
none                      /dev/pts                devpts
mode=0622       0 0

I created the like after the swap partition :

/dev/sda2               /dosf                   msdos   defaults
0 0

However when I reboot I still can't cd to /dosf. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Kirk


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From: Indica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:31:10 GMT


John Hasler wrote:

> WYSIWYG HTML editor is an oxymoron.

Hardly, I suggest you go out and learn some more about high end editors 
and site management tools before you make such a statement.  You seem to 
be under the impression that all WYSIWYG editors salughter the code.  That 
simply is not true.

> And the fact that they can do so despite the fact that they haven't the
> foggiest idea what they are doing is one of the major reasons why 99% of
> the pages on the Web are crap (another one being the fact that graphic
> design rather than library science is considered a suitable background 
for a Web page designer).  

Graphic design is an important part of *many* web sites out there today.  
Content should come first but you need a package to present it in.  Most 
net users enjoy sites that have some nice looking and fast loading 
graphics.  If 99% of the pages on the web are "crap" what do you think 
would make them better?  Seeing as 99% of the pages on the web are created 
by individuals with little experience, I think it's safe to say that the 
other 1% were created by a team of graphic artists, information engineers 
and people using HTML editors....and that's why the 1% are good.


>Most Web pages look like they were "designed" by
> someone who thought she was laying out display ads for a women's 
magazine.

I fail to see your point in that statement.

> I concede that it might be possible to write an HTML editor that allows 
>one to create usable Web pages without knowing HTML, but looking around 
>the Web I see no evidence that such an editor is in use.

Look a little harder.  In one of your earlier posts  you made a comment 
about how an HTML editor needs to be able to make cross browser pages...my 
reply is that no editor and no person using notepad can make a page that 
will display the same on all browsers.  Simply because not all browsers 
are compliant.  That isn't the problem of the people who make the 
editors...it's the problem of those who manufacture the browsers.  If you 
want pages to look their best...use the best browser, which at the moment 
is IE5 (windows) and in a few months will be Mozilla 5 (which will have a 
very stable linux version).



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From: Timothy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 01:56:53 +1000

"Christopher W. Aiken" wrote:

> I don't know that there is a "best" program,  but you
> could try kppp ( part of  KDE ) or you could download
> and use X-ISP ( http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/ )
> I you have RH, Mandrake, or SuSE you already have
> kppp on your system.

I've downloaded X-ISP - but every time I hit the CONNECT, I get a 'pppd
returned 1' error.  I used the same settings for kppp which I am
currently using, but I'd like something to track the time I spend
online.  Thanks.....  :)


Tim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anon314)
Subject: For Sale: SPARC LX Workstations $50.00!!!
Date: 07 Sep 1999 19:54:57 GMT


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        4.5 MFLOPS
        26.4 SPECint92
        21.0 SPECfp92
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