Linux-Misc Digest #757, Volume #21 Fri, 10 Sep 99 21:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: URGENT - tar question (Stephen Waite)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (K. C. Lee)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (K. C. Lee)
Re: cdrecord/mkisofs (brian moore)
Re: HELP! How to login and activate DSL???? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0 (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world ("Omar Bradleyhower")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click) (Aram Iskenderian)
Re: crontab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: POP problem - ERR being read already /usr/spool/mail..... (Guy van Baalen)
Re: How do you pronounce Linux? (NF Stevens)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (NF Stevens)
STUPID C question (me)
Re: W98 removed lilo (Mircea)
Re: adaptec AVA1502 HELL! ("Dave Nejdl")
Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! ("pjd")
Re: CDR software for linux (Mircea)
Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world ("Omar Bradleyhower")
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From: Stephen Waite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT - tar question
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:49:34 -0400
I have been unable to get to the other tar files.
I cannot move past the position the tape was at when it was powered off in the
hope that it would not write an EOD.
Any other ideas?.
Stephen Waite wrote:
> The tape drive is a AIWA GD-E8000.
>
> Unfortunately the tape drive can not move past the EOD mark.
>
> For example, the first tar file on the tape (which should have been the last
> one) goes from block 1 to block 860. The EOD mark is at 861. I am not able
> to get past this position on the tape. I am trying John Nichols suggestion to
> dd to the tape to overwrite the EOD mark and then turn the drive off so it
> doesn't leave another mark. He thinks I should then be able to get to the
> other tar files.
>
> "Art S. Kagel" wrote:
>
> > Try:
> >
> > mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf #Forward space file
> >
> > to move the tape to the second tape file. Then you can either use tar to
> > extract the archive or dd to copy it to disk.
> >
> > (Note: BSD used to put two EOF markers at the end of a tape file requiring
> > one to use mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf 2 instead, but, IMS, I do not think that
> > Linux does that, FWIW.)
> >
> > Art S. Kagel
> >
> > Stephen Waite wrote:
> > >
> > > I am running RH 5.1 on an Intel system.
> > >
> > > There were many tar files on a scsi tape, however a small tar file was
> > > written over the beginning of the tape thus corrupting a large tar file
> > > that should have been the first tar file on the tape. I do not need to
> > > recover this large tar file but I would like to have access to the rest
> > > of the tar files on the tape.
> > >
> > > The problem was created by these commands in a script:
> > >
> > > cd dir1
> > > tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/nst0
> > >
> > > cd dir2
> > > tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/nst0
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > .
> > >
> > > cd dir25
> > > tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/st0 <-------- NOTE the mistake here
> > >
> > > cd dir26
> > > tar cv file1 file2 .... > /dev/st0
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. C. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:57:28 -0400
Andrew Thomas wrote:
>
> Win98 rots. After a period of use, it will eventually become unusable
> and you will have to re-install the operating system. It is built
> this way, and Microsoft documents it. If you try to re-install an OEM
> version of Win98 on a current installation, it will fail. You are
> obliged to re-format your hard drive.
There was a web site somewhere that tells you how to change one of
the files in the OEM install disk so that it would behave as an upgrade.
(ie. not fail on installing over existing Win98) I don't remember how
to do it any more, but I found that info initially by doing a web
search.
> Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
K. C. Lee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. C. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:06:01 -0400
"Paul E. Bell" wrote:
>
> Since graphics cards have been one of the topics of discussion, let's
> look at these. Granted, the fact that Win9x is determined to hold as
> it's basic screen mode (in the absence of a driver on the hard drive) is
> 640x480x256 colors, or even 640x480x16 colors. Why? Most computers
Some of the graphics cards implements the higher resolutions differently
than others. Most of the PCI/AGP graphics have linear addressing to the
graphics vs the bank switching of the older ISA card (anyone using them
these day ??).
> Since a blitter or DSP is not standard on _all_ graphics adapters, Win9x
> cannot be written to take advantage of them in drawing it's UI
> graphics. Again, an oversight on the part of the whole industry, not
> just Microsoft.
Those are handled by display drivers... All of the graphic cards these
days
have graphics accelerations (ie. blitter). As long as you have installed
the Windoze drivers, it will use these hardware features.
> level of technology. The AmigaNG could very well do that, if it ever
> gets out the door. It has the advantage of not having to carry along
> with it bagage from the past, yet can pick up that bagage through
> emulation. This is not a bad solution.
Then why do they use Linux... I really don't see why we are dragging
the old baggage from the old Unix days. ;) ;) ;)
I don't really like the unified file system not having to logon to
my own machine.
> Paul E. Bell Email and AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K. C. Lee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: cdrecord/mkisofs
Date: 10 Sep 1999 18:17:28 GMT
On 9 Sep 1999 22:50:41 GMT,
Turgut Durduran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> brian moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Rockridge extensions you mean?
>
> yes.
>
> : > Specially makes it hard for"normal" users in windows to use them. because
> : > the stupid thing recognises file formats by the extension.
>
> : If you're dealing with Windows junk, try '-J' as one of the arguments to
> : mkisofs, then it will create the Microsoft-designed "Joliet" format.
>
> does this mean I can only see those extensions in windoze?
> i.e I tried -J and it still renamed stuff according to linux.
Then you mounted it as iso9660, not Joliet. Linux can read Joliet cd's
just fine. (Though it would much rather deal with rockridge disks, since
they support things like symlinks, ownership and permissions.)
>
>
> : > PS2: my e-mail is below.
>
> : And?
>
>
> some people like to e-mail their replies. ignore it if you donot
> like :)
But they can do that with the 'reply' function of their news client.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP! How to login and activate DSL????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Sep 1999 19:22:54 -0500
On 10 Sep 1999 09:41:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
> I've got DSL through US West, both the line and as my internet provider.
>Because my area is new to DSL, I was only able to sign up for something
>called the "select" program, meaning that I have to use Cisco Commander to
>login to my provider, which then gives me net access for 2 hours. After 2
>hours expire, I must reconnect if I wish to get back on the internet.
>Everything works well under Windows. Now I'd like to use Linux.
>Unfortunately there isn't a Linux version of Cisco Commander...
> Does anyone know of a way that I can login to US West under Linux? If I
>login via Windows and reboot to Linux, everything works fine for 2 hours,
>then I must reboot to windows, login again, then go back to linux. This is
>tedious and not a desirable solution because of the 2hr DSL time limit until
>I must login again.
> Inside my machine is a 3com 3C905 ethernet card. This plugs into my
>external Cisco 675 router.
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
I don't know about USWest, but I do this with BellSouth. Do you know the
protocol they use to assign IPs? Good chance its DHCP. Is there a static
IP instead? Which distro?
DHCP is pretty easy to setup. On RH6, all I had to do was start
'netcfg', select interface 'eth0', select protocol 'dhcp', and 'start on
boot', then hit 'activate' button. DHCP does all the negotiation based
on the MAC address of the NIC which they already have. If you use RH6,
get the 'pump' update first.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Sep 1999 19:49:48 -0500
On 8 Sep 1999 21:32:38 -0500, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:08:58 +0200, NGUYEN-DAI Quy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Jim Ross wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> I don't know enought about this to know where you went wrong, but I
>>> do use these commands with success to install TTF in RH 6.0 for
>>> Netscape which really does need them.
>>>
>>> mkdir /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts
>>> cp /mnt/c/windows/fonts/*.ttf /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts
>>> cd /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts
>>> ttmkfdir -o fonts.dir
>>> chkfontpath --add /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts
>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart
>>>
>>> I mount my c drive as /mnt/c and there is a space before
>>> /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts but if might be hard to read from line 2.
>>> Jim
>>
>
>The above may work for Jim, but I can't get it going, despite doing the
>above exactly and with minor variations, eg font.scale in lieu of
>font.dir. I notice also that ttmkfontdir produces an identical file to
>the old mkfontdir. So what's the point with ttmkfontdir anyway???
>
Well, I solved my problem. From what I can tell, X uses the FontPath as
defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config, this regardless of what is in
/etc/X11/fs/config or whatever font server config file there is. When I
upgraded, my FontPath was the same from previous version. Once I changed
it to 'unix/:-1' and commented out the old FontPath, restarted xfs and
then restarted X, I finally had true type. This may be documented
somewhere, but it's sure hard to find.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: "Omar Bradleyhower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:16:17 -0400
I know where you might be able to get maybe 1000+ non-Y2K compliant 486-50
PCs w/200MB HDD, and also a smaller number of Pentium90s w/1gig HDDs real
cheap. Maybe free if you come get 'em...
Respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(delete the nospam part of the URL).
The 486s ran win3.1 very well - they might be ok with Linux...
Allan L. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MPG.1240a61146889fb69896c1@news...
> I am looking for the best combination of distribution, configuration and
> office productivity apps with the following goal.
>
> - Reasonable performance on 486-33, 16 MB Ram, <400 MB HD.
> - All software free.
> - apps appropriate for NON-Technical end users need to do wordprocessing,
>
> spreadsheet, email, web browsing, and callandering.
> - apps not dead (ie: old versions with no future or new development)
>
> I am doing this as a pet project to see if it is feasible to use linux
> and linux available apps to distribute to non-profit workers in 3rd world
>
> countries where $$$ and hdwr are scarce.
>
> I am currently testing on 486-100 AMD, 20 MB Ram, 500 MB HD.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aram Iskenderian)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Sep 1999 22:11:43 GMT,
In article <7rbvmv$bl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Moore) wrote:
>>>>>> Well, on my Win95B (with IE5) system, the shift-right-click bit does
>>>>>> _not_ bring up a menu with "Open With" as an option.
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, this only works in Windows Explorer, not in an IE window.
>>>
>>>Sorry this is incorrect, you have to enable active desktop, and it
>>>works.
>
>You do _not_ need active desktop or active-x enabled to do this!
ActiveX is not related or part of Active Desktop, they are two different
things, you can get integration of ActiveX with Active Desktop, yes, but
they are not the same.
>SELECT THE FILE, then hold down shift and right-click.
We were not talking about Explorer(GUI), we were talking about Internet
Explorer in the desktop.
>And please, enough non-Linux stuff...
How about no more non Amiga stuff? :-)
I neither started the discussion, nor cross posted, I followed up a
message.
--
Aram Iskenderian.
To email, hit reply, check the email address and add "r" somewhere.
Enjoying the speed of ADSL.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: crontab
Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:16:06 GMT
The best way to find out for sure is to test it.
However, cron won't play catch up. If you miss a call because your
machine is off, it's gone forever...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Another newbie question:
>
> I want to set up a script using crontab which will be scheduled to run
> once a day. My system (single user PC) will however not be switched on
> every day. What happen when the system hasn't been running for more than
> a 24 hour period? Are the script executions which weren't carried out
> because the system wasn't on simply ignored or will the system try and
> "catch up" on the backlog of non-executed scripts next time it's
> switched on?
>
> The script in question is non-critical; it will just extract a "quote of
> the day" relevant for that day from a file.
>
> Yours
>
> Schablonski
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Guy van Baalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: POP problem - ERR being read already /usr/spool/mail.....
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:31:04 +1000
"Luke Th. Bullock" wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc the GURU Guy van Baalen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I know there's going to be an easy answer to this, but.....
>
> >My POP server / mail host is returning the error message:
> >-ERR being read already /usr/spool/mail/mymailfilename
>
> delete the lock:
> rm /usr/tmp/.pop/<username>
>
> --
> /Luke
Thanks, but no. Already tried it, no difference. Just did another quick
check just in case - no such file anywhere on the system in question.
Thanks anyway.
Guy
========================================================================
Guy van Baalen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JB IT Services P/L
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Linux?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:41:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) wrote:
>I pronounce it "Fred", but that's just me ;-)
But is that a long or a short e?
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:41:46 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown) wrote:
[snip]
>On an Airbus plane, however, the plane won't LET the pilot do certain
>stupid things.
Which is all very well until the plane decides that it would
be stupid to open the undercarriage while still in the air.
Norman
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:37:55 +0200
From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: STUPID C question
I'm new to programming in linux......but i do know C. the following
piece of code is giving me a problem.
i've marked off where the problem occurs below.
please help.
ali
==========================================================================
struct timeval time
struct timezone obselete;
gettimeofday(&time,&obselete); //current time
if (!strcmp(argv[1],"start")) //THE IF PORTION OF
THIS LOOP RUNS JUST FINE!!!
{
printf("current time is: %li\n",time.tv_sec);
printf("writing temp file\n");
FILE *fp=fopen("/tmp/ppplogtmp","wb");
fwrite(&time.tv_sec,sizeof(time.tv_sec),1,fp);
printf("temp data value written\n");
fclose(fp);
}
else //
{
if (!strcmp(argv[1],"end"))
{
FILE *fp=fopen("/tmp/ppplogtmp","rb");
FILE *fp2=fopen("/home/ali/ISP.log","r");
if (fp2==NULL) //initializes new file
{timearrayfp2=initializelog(fp2);}
//------------------------------------------------------------------
/*HERE'S THE PROBLEM.....IN THE IN THE FIRST LINE BELOW....IE 'char
buffer[80]'
BUFFER DOESNT GET ASSIGNED TO A PROPER VALUE IN MEMORY IE. IT
GETS
ASSIGNED A VALUE LIKE -182948394 OR SOMETHING. TO MAKE THIS
STATEMENT
WORK I HAVE TO USE MALLOC. WHY???
PROBLEM NUMBER 2....EVEN WHEN BUFFER IS ASSIGNED A PROPER VALUE
IN MEMORY
fgets(buffer,80,fp2) DOESNT READ A VALUE FROM THE STREAM fp2.
BUFFER
JUST STAYS EMPTY. I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY!!!!!!
THE REST OF THE PROGRAM IS DEPENDANT ON THIS VARIABLE.
*/
char buffer[80]; //THE
PROBLEM STARTS HERE!!!!!!!!
fgets(buffer,80,fp2); //AND
CONTINUES THROUGHOUT THE CODE
//-------------------------------------------------
printf("%d %d\n",buffer,fp2);
printf("%s\n", buffer);
.....
.....
.....
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: W98 removed lilo
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:06:28 -0400
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> You have to run lilo again under Linux with a new /etc/lilo.conf.
> Use the boot and rescue disks to boot a copy of linux off the floppy
> drive. Then mount /dev/hda5 somewhere (eg /mnt/) and run lilo with
> lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
Another option is to use loadlin to boot into linux from the DOS command
line.
MST
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From: "Dave Nejdl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: adaptec AVA1502 HELL!
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:47:13 -0400
I've tried that, it doesn't say anything about it in the boot messages or
anything.
Bud Beckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:UB%B3.480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dave Nejdl wrote in message
> >I just got an internal scsi zip drive with the adaptec AVA-1502 scsi
> >controler(zip zoom). I didn't get any manuals or anything with it. I
> >reconfigured my kernel to include scsi, scsi disk support and the aha152x
> >driver. Then I went into windows nt to try and find out the irq and I/O
> >port. It always says the I/O range is 140-015f (0x140 I assume) and the
IRQ
> >is 11. SO I said "great" and "that was so easy." I entered the boot
> >parameters "aha152x=0x140,11,7,1", then I got the message:
> >detected 1 controller(s)
> >aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7,
> >DAVE
> Just let the boot handle it. Sometimes it will find the IRQ and may change
> it.
>
> GL
>
>
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From: "pjd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:44:26 GMT
>My heading is a bit extreme - perhaps ?
yup.
>Those of you who spent resources learning a dozen different asmbl-langs:
>mov h,p; lod h,p ; ldx h,p ....etc. Where all of these were 'explained'
>in a more universal syntax. eg. N -> [p] , might have realised the
>waste of their time/effort. Apparently most just accept this method.
Not the same thing. Languages come and go. Get killed in the next step of
evolution. But unix as a OS will be around for a long time. Even if you
have a completely graphical intuitive OS in a couple of decades from now,
someone will still be typing up these cryptic, complex commands and getting
stuff done efficiently.
Granted, it is difficult to understand, learn and retain. But once you get
the hang of it, it makes you feel that using GUI's are very inefficeint. The
more you put in , the more you get. Please dont tell me these Unix shells
and the assorted programs are going away anytime soon.
Whats with GNU/Cygnus stuff, even Windows is getting more usable nowadays.
>In summary: whereas M$win insults one by talking via 'cartoons',
>the 1950's method of 'communicating with the little man in the box
>via shorthand syntax' is absurdly outdated.
You dont like windows. You dont like Unix. What do you really like ?
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDR software for linux
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:01:14 -0400
"Couch, George (EXCHANGE:CAR:SC11)" wrote:
> (..)
> Isn't there anything for X-Windows that has a nice user interface?
(..)
Beside xcdroast and cdrtoast, which have been already mentioned, there's
also gcombust and BurnIt. You can also find these on freshmeat. So. you
have where to choose from! I personally prefer the command-line
combination of mkisofs and cdrecord.
MST
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From: "Omar Bradleyhower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Q? - best combo of linux distrib and apps for 3rd world
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:42:31 -0400
Oh - and THIS is a GOOD suggestion - THE QNX CHALLENGE. Not much help on
the apps you are describing, but if you are *REALLY* talking about a
Stanley/Livingstone scenario in deepest darkest Africa, armed with an ISP,
electricity, and little money, you could maybe turn a tired old 486 into a
"web TV" - you just make the floppy as directed, pop it into the box, boot
the PC, and you get the Voyager HTML 3.2 compliant browser, and can surf the
net (but you can't print). You'd get email through Yahoo or whatever.
I am *NOT* dogging QNX by any means - I think anyone who takes the
"Challenge" will be astounded!
The URL is www.qnx.com.
I haven't pursued this, but if you want to enhance the browser, you can buy
their SDK for a few hundred bucks, go through the learning curve, and
rewrite it any way you want...
I'm still trying to learn Linux - and don't have time to dig that far.
But I'd *STRONGLY ENCOURAGE* everyone to take the challenge - it really had
an impact on me!
If you've got your ISP info handy, 15 minutes of time, and a blank floppy,
check it out...
Sorry for the bizarre post - if you check it out you will understand my
rant/rave....
Allan L. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:MPG.1240a61146889fb69896c1@news...
> I am looking for the best combination of distribution, configuration and
> office productivity apps with the following goal.
>
> - Reasonable performance on 486-33, 16 MB Ram, <400 MB HD.
> - All software free.
> - apps appropriate for NON-Technical end users need to do wordprocessing,
>
> spreadsheet, email, web browsing, and callandering.
> - apps not dead (ie: old versions with no future or new development)
>
> I am doing this as a pet project to see if it is feasible to use linux
> and linux available apps to distribute to non-profit workers in 3rd world
>
> countries where $$$ and hdwr are scarce.
>
> I am currently testing on 486-100 AMD, 20 MB Ram, 500 MB HD.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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