Linux-Misc Digest #759, Volume #21               Sat, 11 Sep 99 00:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (Ken Witherow)
  Re: DosLinux: No Reply? (Edward Westin)
  Re: Can't start X-window after upgrading to XFree86-3.3.5 rpm (George Zimmerlee)
  Re: lint for c. ("T.E.Dickey")
  video server for linux? (Bruce Edge)
  Re: Linux System Labs (Stephan)
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Guy Macon)
  Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Cannot find map file? ("Colin R. Day")
  JRE path in redHat Linux 6.0 (David Hughes)
  Re: HELP!  How to login and activate DSL???? (Kevin Maloney)
  Re: adaptec AVA1502 HELL! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Absurd Linux mentality ! ("Christopher R. Carlen")
  Re: STUPID C question ("bowman")
  Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click) (Guy Macon)
  Re: Can't start X-window after upgrading to XFree86-3.3.5 rpm (Ed Flinn)
  Re: KDE kppp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:09:50 -0400

David Frantz wrote:
> organizations, to restrict what you can listen to.    The FCC was also
> just recently forced to change its Cell Phone regulations to require Cell
> Phone companies to provide tracking capabilities.    This is so Big
> Brother will always know were you are.

No it's not... It's so, uh, they can, uh, find your phone if it's
stolen. Yeah... that's it. :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Westin)
Subject: Re: DosLinux: No Reply?
Date: 11 Sep 1999 03:00:29 GMT

On 6 Sep 1999 22:30:55 GMT, Edward Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I installed DosLinux a while ago and have found it to be quite excellent.
>When I originally installed it the setup asked how much hard disk space I
>wanted to give it.  Not knowing the quality of the distribution, I went
>small (75megs) and now am running out of space.  Is there a way of
>re-sizing the size of the file (loop device?)?  If not is there a way I can
>re-install this and save my work of over a month customizing it?  Any
>recommendations would be much appreciated.

Doesn't anybody know the answer to this query?  Please help...  :-(

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From: George Zimmerlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't start X-window after upgrading to XFree86-3.3.5 rpm
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:18:32 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fung Wai Keung wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>         I can't start X-window in normal user access after upgrading to
> XFree86-3.3.5 rpms.  The error returned is like the following
> 
> wkfung@maemb3~>startx
> 
> Authentication failed - cannot start X server.
> Perhaps you do not have console ownership?
> 
> [Press Ctrl-C]
> xinit :  unexpected signal 2
> 
>         However, I can start X-window with root access.  Please help me to
> solve this problem.

> Wai Keung, Fung
> 
> Department of Mechanical and Automation Engineering,
> The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
> Shatin, N.T.,
> Hong Kong.
> 
> Tel: (852)26098056      Fax: (852)26036002

For a better understanding of what this Xauthority stuff
is about, you can read the "man pages" for X, xserver,
xlib and Xsecurity. What xhost tries to do is write a
"cookie" file to the authorized terminal or users file
in /home/<user>. It will also write the same bunch of
files to the sysadmin at /root.

My experience is that by starting the X window and
opening the terminal emulator in Gnome you get the
files written properly. Trying to do useradd from
the console may not do the same as operating through
Gnome. The sequence, once in Gnome and terminal is
useradd <username>
passwd <username>
then enter the password
logout (of terminal)
then click on main menu, Gnome foot icon
then click on logout (to logout of Gnome)

This puts you at the prompt where you can
change (su) to the <username> and see if you
can run startx as someone other than root.

It worked one time for me, then I tried to 
delete the Xauthority files. I may have to
reinstall.
-- 
George Zimmerlee           Research on Criminal Government
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          http://www.atlcom.net/~geozim/index.htm
==================================================================
Current feature: The Evidence to Impeach President Clinton
                 The Evidence Against BATF and FBI
                 FCC Chairman Kennard Put On Notice
    Book Review: Tainting Evidence (FBI Crime Lab)


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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lint for c.
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:07:22 GMT

Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shiva Persaud wrote:
>> 
>> Where can I get lint.. the c debugger?

> With gcc/egcs you don't need it.  Compiling with the "-Wall" option will
> do the checks that lint does.

no: -Wall doesn't (it's only about 60% of lint).

this is adequate for most purposes - gets about 90% if you fix all of the
missing prototypes:

        -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wconversion

(production code should be cleaner than that, of course)

-- there's also lclint (a bit stricter than that ;-)

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: Bruce Edge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video server for linux?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:22:16 +0000


We're would like to use video-teleconferencing.

I was wondering if there were any solutions for this that ran on linux.

I would also like to have some software which would combine a number of 
digitized video feeds into one signal so that all parties could "see" 
everybody else.

pls email if you have any info.

TIA, Bruce.

-- 
Bruce Edge                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sattel Global Networks          818.709.6201 x122

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From: Stephan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux System Labs
Date: 10 Sep 1999 23:08:01 GMT

        I don't know if they have the package you're refering to, but Linux 
System Labs is a valid company (I purchased Red Hat 6.0 [GPL version] for 
about $8-US, and that included shipping).  The web site is www.lsl.com

Have fun,
Stephan

Martin McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
<7r90qv$h0b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
>    Someone told me of a company they referred to as Linux System
>Labs that sells a pack of CDROm's containing several Linux
>distributions for around $15.00.    I may have a mixup on the name
>because I am having trouble locating them by that name.  Does this
>sound familiar to anybody?
>
>Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
>OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications 
Group
>

-- 
To reply by e-mail, remove ".NOSPAM" from the end of my e-mail address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Macon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:24:04 PDT

In article <7raf9f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Armin@Steinhoff_de (Armin Steinhoff) 
wrote:
>
>In article <7ra0ep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>I can give you a bunch of direct quotes from the Ballista project
>>website where they themselves say that they are not testing
>>robustness.  Anyone who reads all of the docs for the project
>>(which I did) can see that what they test for is only one facet
>>of robustness.  The posters and webpage graphics are misleading
>>to the point of being a reckless disreguard for truth. 
>
>Hmmm .... was that their intension ????

I think that it was.  I can't read minds but it sure seems to me
like the poster and the web page put up some really fancy 3D graphics
for a reason, and that that reason is advertising (either for a product
or for funding).  The poster looks like advertising hype, and it does
not suprise me to see the charts labled "Operating System Robustness",
and to see dubious testing practices that tend to make the operating
systems do worse on the charts - more exciting that way.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:52:20 GMT

On 10 Sep 1999 16:47:53 -0400, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 
>(There's actually a comment on the original question...)
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Linux users who are proud that they learned what:
>> "     cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - )     "
>>  means; don't yet realise that knowledge of this arbitrary syntax,
>>  will be of no use to them in 10 years time.
>
>Why not?  It's been useful already for a lot longer than that.

On the one hand, there's the "proud that they learned that" part.
Nobody is likely to be overly prideful about this, in the long run.

On the other hand, those that understand this (admittedly arbitrary)
syntax may be glad that they can conveniently get some work done.

"I don't know what OS we will be running in 40 years, but it will
probably be called UNIX...." 
-- Chris Mikkelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The fact that the above command uses some somewhat cryptic keywords
does not mean that the syntax itself is cryptic, which is an important
point.

We could change the command to:

pickdirectory /home ; archiver --create --filter * | 
    ( pickdirectory /home ; archiver --extract --filter )

The cryptic names would go away, and the command line happens to get
longer.  The syntax hasn't changed one iota, and the logic behind that
syntax is quite valid, regardless of the names of the commands.  

The "syntax" here works well, whether we're using TAR, CPIO, or PKZIP.

>> Those of you who spent resources learning a dozen different asmbl-langs:
>> mov h,p;  lod h,p ; ldx h,p ....etc.   Where all of these were 'explained'
>> in a more universal syntax. eg.  N -> [p]  , might have realised the 
>> waste of their time/effort.    Apparently most just accept this method.
>
>Which works well most of the time, which is why most people write most
>code in high level languages of one kind or another.  It doesn't
>always work.

The set of visible abstractions in 
       cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - )
are roughly four:

a) The notion of having a hierarchical directory structure, referenced
   twice via "cd /home" and "cd /newhome."

b) The notion of having some sort of "sequence" of operations, where
   commands that need to occur in sequence are, in this case,
   connected using ";".

c) The notion of having programs that work as "filters" on "data
   streams."  The pipe, "|", is the connector in this case.  

   The use of "-" in the tar commands is an arguably cryptic way of
   indicating the use of tar as filter.

d) The notion that it may make sense to "group" operations together,
   indicated here by the parentheses.

None of those four abstractions are particularly cryptic.  They happen
to be very useful in programming, which is why they have persisted for
the last 20-odd years.

>> Certain skills/knowledge is universally applicable.
>> Knowing/remembering Peter's , John's, Abdull's..... current
>> telephone number is NOT !!
>
>And just why not?  For that matter, why is knowing English as opposed
>to an abstract syntax tree so universally applicable?

Actually, the question that it is appropriate to beg is whether the
alternative abstraction schemes are truly better.

In order to "GUIfy" this sort of thing, there effectively needs to be
a "graphical language" to represent the operations.  

It is easy enough to spout off commentary to the effect that "this is
an obvious application of Drag'n'Drop;" the problem with that is that
implementing a GUIed system that does this requires having as many if
not more abstractions come along for the ride:

--> There needs to be a visual notation that includes not only icons
    but also gestures to represent them.

    In effect, this provides a dual language (where "syntax" is
    gesture, and "vocabulary" is icons) in which the user must be
    literate.

--> In order to *implement* the process, there will need to be textual
    "functions" and "connectors;" if they aren't the stuff of
       cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf -)
    they'll need to be *substantially* more verbose.

--> If there is a desire to be able to *automate* this process, so
    that it may be somehow "scripted" for reuse, this mandates further
    iconic vocabulary and gestural syntax.

The notion that the results are somehow fundamentally simpler than
       cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf -)
is extremely questionable, as there will be *at least* three languages
involved, between icons, gestures, and the underlying programming
language(s).

This should not be misconstrued as to say "it'll never happen;" the
point simply is that the assertion that GUIing this sort of process
makes it "simpler" is rife with potential fallacies, depending on how
the assertion is framed.

>> The originally M$DOS utility 'Norton Commander', is cloned and
>> extended for Linux as Midnight Commander.  Whereas I could not 
>> tolerate Linux's school-boy's syntax, having several MidntCmdrs
>> (in different VTs), makes Linux somewhat usable.  Not only can you
>> visually navigate thru the dir-tree, and see files in the current dir
>> (with size, date, etc.), you can move, copy, delete....etc. without
>> remembering arbitrary syntax.  Knowledge/progress means having
>> CONCEPTS not WORDS. ie. you don't want to have to remember
>> is it 'big' or is it 'large'.  Extending the principle of working with ideas
>> instead of 'strings of chars'. I don't know and DON'T WANT to know
>> how to mount my B: drive.  MdntCmd allows eg. to make a dir for 
>> often used scripts; call one script: 'mount B:' and call another:
>> 'unmount B:' . Then in future, easily/visually goto the 'Script' dir
>> visually scroll down to the 'well named script', hit enter - done !
>
>Why is scrolling down a menu any easier than remembering a command?
>People are hard wired to understand language.  After a while the name
>of the command becomes part of one's vocabulary, and at that point
>it's a lot easier just to remember the name of the command than to
>have to scroll down through a list of choices.  At least that's the
>case for me, and to judge by the number of people who have no trouble
>using Unix, it's the case for a lot of people.

The following commentary about the common complaints about "all the
annoying parentheses" in Lisp may be generalized nicely, and seems to
fit in well here.

"Parentheses? What parentheses? I haven't noticed any parentheses
since my first month of Lisp programming.  I like to ask people who
complain about parentheses in Lisp if they are bothered by all the
spaces between words in a newspaper..." 
-- Kenny Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

*Every* language has some structures that are both good and bad.  

- In the case of Lisp, it "suffers" from lots of parenthesis, but
  anyone that uses it for anything more profound than the single
  assignment in a "Principles of Programming Languages" course tends
  to find this a nonissue in much the manner described by Kenny
  Tilton.

- In the case of UNIX, it "suffers" from having some commands that
  have cryptic names, like cp, mv, tar, ls, mkdir, and cat.

  (Not unlike the crypticness of copy, rename, zip, dir, mkdir, and
  type.)

- In the case of Windows, it "suffers" from having file managers that
  require that the user do a Whole Lot Of Clicking On Boxes.

If you go out looking for annoyances, you'll always find them.
Happily, there seem to be relatively few people that are bothered by
all the spaces between words in a newspaper...

>> Forget the school-boy mentality of being proud of acrobatically
>> remembering  the 'correct syntax'.         A further example:
>>  files have permission: read, write, execute; for owner, ........etc.
>>  the command is chmod or modch, or dog-shit or some-thing ?!?
>>  Using MdntCmdr I don't need to remember the arbitrary syntax.
>>  All is done via menu and results are visually confirmed !!
>
>OK, using Midnight Commander, please find and compress all files in
>the the root directory and all subdirectories recursively that live on
>the local machine (i. e. not over NFS) bigger than 1 MB whose name
>ends in ".tif".  You're entitled to assume that a command named
>"compress" exists.
>
>Now let's change the rules slightly.  You're to arrange that this is
>done every day at 4 AM.  Oh, and this is only to be done if the
>filesystem is more than 90% full and if the file has not been accessed
>in more than 7 days.
>
>A little harder, yes?  If you know the basic Unix commands, and
>understand the rudiments of shell script, it's really very easy.  And
>this example's not particularly contrived; it's a very typical task
>that people perform to maintain free disk space.

These may not be actions that you'd ask an "end luser" to do, but they
*are* things that a competent system administrator needs to know how
to do.

Unfortunately, coming up with a way of representing a "syntax" for
this in a gesturally oriented system starts heading you down one of
two roads:

a) Providing a user interface that describes exactly the problem being
   solved, which means that as soon as "the rules change," you have to
   write a new application, thereby mandating getting a group of
   programmers and HCI folk together.

b) Coming up with a way of representing some form of "gestural
   metadata."

   In effect, having a GUIed language that has the ability to
   generalize.  

   Which seems to me by being real tough; I don't think HCI is There
   Yet.

>> In summary: whereas M$win insults one by talking via 'cartoons',
>> the 1950's method of 'communicating with the little man in the box
>> via shorthand syntax' is absurdly outdated.
>
>It's not (just) a matter of insulting one's intelligence; it's also a
>matter of having sufficient expressive power for arbitrary nontrivial
>tasks.

Some tasks may be elegantly expressed via gestures and icons; others
may be more elegantly expressed via a symbolic notation.

Assuming one or the other representation away diminishes the
expressiveness of a system.
-- 
"... They are not ``end users'' until someone presupposes them as such,
as witless cattle." -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot find map file?
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:49:23 +0000

Paul Kimoto wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin R. Day wrote:
> > In my log files, I find the message "Cannot find map file". I have
> > map=/boot/map in my lilo.conf file.
>
> That's not the map file in question.  This is a message from klogd(8),
> which is looking for the System.map file.
>

A thousand blessings on your house and home.

>
> --
> Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--
Colin R. Day    [EMAIL PROTECTED]     alt.atheist #1500




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From: David Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: JRE path in redHat Linux 6.0
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:03:32 -0600

Hello,

I am attempting to install a log analyzer by Lariat Communications that
has created this piece for use under RealServer basic server.  I have
the RealAudio server and Producer running fine.  But when I attempt to
install this log analyzer, it asks me for the JRE (Java Resource
Environment) path. . . . question is: where is it?  Am not sure and it
continues to fail.

Has anyone installed a RealAudio Basic Server and the log analyzer in
RedHat 6.0 who could offer some help?  I believe I am just struggling
with the JRE path, if anyone can help with this.

tx in advance, david


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From: Kevin Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP!  How to login and activate DSL????
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:31:14 GMT

Hey Andrew!

Andrew Smith wrote:

? it's far from an ideal solution, but you could use a program called 
? (www.vmware.com - i think). it allows you to create 'virtual computers'
? inside your own. what you could do is boot into linux and use vmware to
? create a win9x machine. install windows and the connection program on 
your
? 'new' computer, and whenever you want connect, just change task to your
? virtual machine and log on again. maybe you could use some sort of script 
in
? windows (or visual basic if you know it) to automatically logon again 
every
? 2 hours.
? 
? hope this helps,
? 

Fraid not Andrew.  I have vmware, and although it works great, I don't 
think it's a suitable fix for this particular problem.  Since DSL is a 24 
hour connection to the net, I don't think using a virtual machine is a good 
way of utilizing this connection, while maintaining the security Linux 
users have come to enjoy.

My advice is to learn DHCP.  I just got a DSL connection today, and have 
gotten it working in WinNT.  I will attempt to get it going in SuSE linux, 
tommorrow, and will post my results if I succeed.

btw - vmware is pretty cool.  If you're tired of the blue screen of death 
and all the other usual Windoze problems, its a great solution!

Kevin Maloney

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: adaptec AVA1502 HELL!
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:31:05 GMT

In article <7rc4o2$kq6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Nejdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've tried that, it doesn't say anything about it in the boot messages or
>anything.
>Bud Beckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:UB%B3.480$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Dave Nejdl wrote in message
>> >I just got an internal scsi zip drive with the adaptec AVA-1502 scsi
>> >controler(zip zoom). I didn't get any manuals or anything with it. I
>> >reconfigured my kernel to include scsi, scsi disk support and the aha152x
>> >driver. Then I went into windows nt to try and find out the irq and I/O
>> >port. It always says the I/O range is 140-015f (0x140 I assume) and the
>IRQ
>> >is 11. SO I said "great" and "that was so easy." I entered the boot
>> >parameters "aha152x=0x140,11,7,1", then I got the message:
>> >detected 1 controller(s)
>> >aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7,
>> >DAVE
>> Just let the boot handle it. Sometimes it will find the IRQ and may change
>> it.
...<snip>...

Maybe you could ask around in your area for someone with a diskette to
configure it, or go to Adaptec's website and find a downloadable image.
You could also try trial and error, rmmod and insmod the module with
different values till you get one that works.  I have a 1505, and according
to the manual there are two addresses setable by jumper J3; ON sets
address to 140 hex, OFF to 340 (this may be over rideable plug-n-play
style, I don't know much about plug and play.  The manual says
available IRQs are 9,10,11,12, default 10
host adapter dma channels are 5,6,7 or disabled (default disabled).
so there aren't that many things to try.   I doubt that your card
is too different.

-- 
No statement is wholly true, not even this one.
    also: remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality !
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:50:52 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> My heading is a bit extreme - perhaps ?
> 
> Linux users who are proud that they learned what:
> "     cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - )     "
>  means; don't yet realise that knowledge of this arbitrary syntax, will be of
>  no use to them in 10 years time.


There is something about command line control over my computer, that I
find deeply satisfying and straightforward.  Granted, I must do a little
research to understand the commands, and sometimes I have to ask for
help.  When I use completely point and click interfaces, I am often
frustrated by the impedements.  These present as much or more of an
obstacle to getting the results I want as learning commands.

I like the UNIX interface, and I will probably be a very hard sell when
some new interface comes along that is radically different.  I have some
reluctance to accept things like voice control, eye control, and
possibly thought control.  It would be like a calculator that you talk
to instead of pych the buttons.  Well, that may be fine for 2+3+7 but I
do much more complex things.  I can't imagine trying to point and click
icon, or even speak my way through complex mathematical functions. 
Pushing the buttons works fine.

Whatever.

_____________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<http://home.inreach.com/crobc>
My OS is Linux 2.0.29

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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STUPID C question
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:38:35 -0600


me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm new to programming in linux......but i do know C.

No, you do not know C, you know C++. If you use the -Wall switch with gcc,
it will point out several errors. You might want to try g++.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Macon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click)
Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:46:48 PDT

Aram Iskenderian wrote:

>Peter Moore wrote:
>
>>And please, enough non-Linux stuff...
>
>How about no more non Amiga stuff? :-)
>
And let's not forget no QNX stuff!


>I neither started the discussion, nor cross posted,
>I followed up a message.

See this?

# From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aram Iskenderian)
# Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Win right-click)
# Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:50:52 GMT
# Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc

You crossposted.

 -Guy  "I DARE anyone to say that this post
  isn't about Amiga, Linux and QNX!"  Macon


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Flinn)
Subject: Re: Can't start X-window after upgrading to XFree86-3.3.5 rpm
Date: 11 Sep 1999 02:53:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 11 Sep 1999, Fung Wai Keung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>       I can't start X-window in normal user access after upgrading to
>XFree86-3.3.5 rpms.  The error returned is like the following
>
>wkfung@maemb3~>startx
>
>Authentication failed - cannot start X server.
>Perhaps you do not have console ownership?
>
>[Press Ctrl-C]
>xinit :  unexpected signal 2
>
>       However, I can start X-window with root access.  Please help me to
>solve this problem.
>


Running Red Hat 5.1, I have no solution, but additional symptoms.  In
/var/log/messages:

pam[3541]: unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so)
pam[3541]: [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_console.so: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory] 
pam[3541]: adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_console.so

As the messages suggest, there is no /lib/security/pam_console.so

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE kppp
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:37:15 GMT

I'm dialing into an ISP from Linux (RH6.0) but can use it or any of my
Win95 boxes connected to it on the net.  I referred to the PPP section
in some Linuxconf material (but can't find now, sorry).  You can use
Linuxconf either at the command prompt or in X.  You'll set up an IP
number within your Linux box (internal) if you're using an network
interface card, but still set up the modem for dynamic IP.  You'll need
the number of your ISP's DNS (x.x.x.x address of some sort; my ISP has
two).

Look at:
http://www.linux-howto.com/LDP/HOWTO/ISP-Hookup-HOWTO.html
http://www.linux-howto.com/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html

One of many good sites for information is www.linuxpowered.com

Good luck.

Glen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello out there
>
> I have a problem using kppp
>
> My ISP tells me that the IP- and the DNS adress is assigned by the
> Server
>
> In Win95 there is a option
> "dynamic IP adress" and "DNS adress is assigned by the server"
>
> My problem is I don't like Windows and I dont't want to use it.
>
> So I tryed to use kppp but there's a problem:
>
> It's possible to select dynamic IP Adress but i did not
> find a option DNS adress is assigned by the server or something
> like this.
>
> Is it possible to set this anyway
>
> Regards
> Andreas
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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