Linux-Misc Digest #759, Volume #25 Thu, 14 Sep 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
pdf to html converter ("hans eric")
Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: linux startup graphic (Timothy Little)
Re: mirroring a queue with printcap (?) ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: pdf to html converter (Andreas Kahari)
Re: linux startup graphic ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: calendar (Koos Pol)
Re: you can turn the power off now (Robert Hampf)
Re: Help: batch renaming files - stripping bogus extensions (Tony Lawrence)
Re: email package to replace Eudora? (Eduardo Chappa)
Re: E-mail client for gnome (Eduardo Chappa)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: Partition size limit? (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Why linux kernel is compressed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
xterm disappearing (James Young)
Re: 256 MB memory cant work in REdHat 6.1 (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Why linux kernel is compressed? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions? (Mogens Kjaer)
Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: mpeg player for linux? (LFessen106)
Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions? (Andreas Kahari)
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From: "hans eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pdf to html converter
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:59:27 +0100
Hello!
Maybe I am in the wrong newsgroup. If it is so please tell were to go.
I am looking for a pdf to html converter.
I am currently using "pdftohtml" and it is working well.
Only with colour graphics it does not work. I get "black images" instead of
the colour once.
Is there an other, more powerful application for pdf to html conversion or
is there a good work around for keeping the images?
Maybe a "two-step conversion"?
Thanks!
Hans Eric
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation.
Date: 14 Sep 2000 08:02:06 GMT
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> I have been looking for detailed explainations as to why
:>Linux ext2 does not have a fragmentation problem.
: What would it accomplish? On a multi-user/multi-tasking OS that
: buffers disk reads to whatever RAM is available, there just is
: no significant performance hit due to disk fragmentation.
Precisely! (more or less :-).
: Due to multi-tasking for many users, actual disk reads are
: scattered all about the disk anyway. And since any decent
: modern OS puts disk reads into RAM buffers and therefore many
: (or with enough RAM, most) disk read requests actually become
: memory reads instead, once again there is no added performance
: hit due to disk fragmentation.
: None of the above relates directly to any specific file system.
Amen.
The above is also why hardly anyone is going to bother to answer this
question. On the face of it it's obvious what's going on, and if
you want to dispute the rough reckoning implicit in the reasoning you
are going to have to get very very technical about use patterns and
the characteristics of various placement algorithms.
Ext2fs does not bung down things in 123 order on the disks. Yes,
individual files will more or less be contiguous, but then there'll be
a big gap till the "next" one you ask to be written. This means that
the disk doesn't run out of space to write individual files. But
it doesn't matter ... the same thing would be achieved on a fat16
file system by erasing arbitrary files to leave lots of holes in which
more files could subsequently be written. Unforunately dos would have
filled out those holes all wrong too!
This is a linux FAQ, btw. Answered in the linux FAQ.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Little)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: linux startup graphic
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:19:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
> can somebody tell me how to get the startup image of Tux while
>booting up. That is , if I'm correct a small image of Tux appears on the
>top left corner . I think I have to fiddle around with framebuffer or
>something.
Yes, you need to compile framebuffer support into your kernel. From
memory, this requires that you select "Prompt for incomplete/experimental
device drivers". Depending upon your graphics card, you may also need to
pass kernel parameters to provide refresh rates suitable to your monitor
and viewing preferences.
Beware, if you are using the "matroxfb" driver, X 4.0 and 4.0.1 interfere
with the registers giving transient garbage in some parts of the screen
when you switch back to the console. Alternatively, you could also view it
as a case of the fb code not resetting the registers properly when X hands
back control, depending upon who you want to blame :^)
To set up frame-buffer supoort (with the logo!)
Reconfigure the kernel, specifying "Prompt for incomplete...", and
"Console drivers"/"Frame-buffer support"/<Your chipset or VESA here>.
You will almost certainly need to specify a video mode by hand, by
reading appropriate stuff from "Documentation/fb" in the kernel source
tree. You would also be wise to read the documentation in "man fbset".
Either print it out or learn it well enough to type in commands blind, as
setting the wrong modes can leave you pictureless (and probably stress your
monitor).
Once you've got a stable set of timings, you can put them into your LILO
configuration by adding "append=<settings>" to the boot options for your
kernel. Settings that work for me, but almost certainly won't for you,
are:
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-latest
read-only
root=/dev/hda3
append="video=matrox:vesa:0x117,pixclock:8000,fastfont:65536,
left:144,right:16,upper:25,lower:1,hslen:128,vslen:4"
As you can see from the above settings (you *did* read Documentation/fb,
didn't you?), I prefer a high refresh rate at middling-high resolution.
This mode is *much* better than the VGA modes supplied -- they all looked
really bad on a 21" monitor, I could clearly see large gaps between
(thick) scanlines.
I'm not sure which kernel introduced working fb devices -- I am using
2.4.0-test7 now, but I think they were OK in 2.2.14.
- Tim
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mirroring a queue with printcap (?)
Date: 14 Sep 2000 02:18:53 -0600
Marcel Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: To store information on two separate places, I'd like to know whether it's
: possible to duplicate the data that gets into queue A, and put it into queue
: B. In this situation I want to connect a printer to queue A, and append the
: data to a file that gets into queue B.
See my response in news:comp.unix.misc
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Subject: Re: pdf to html converter
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 14 Sep 2000 10:31:09 +0100
In article <8pq0iu$12hj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hans eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello!
>Maybe I am in the wrong newsgroup. If it is so please tell were to go.
>
>I am looking for a pdf to html converter.
>I am currently using "pdftohtml" and it is working well.
>Only with colour graphics it does not work. I get "black images" instead of
>the colour once.
>
>Is there an other, more powerful application for pdf to html conversion or
>is there a good work around for keeping the images?
>Maybe a "two-step conversion"?
>
>Thanks!
>Hans Eric
>
>
In general, converting *from* Postscript or PDF is not to be
recomended since these formats are "final" formats (to be distributed
and printed). It's better to generate the other format (text, DVI,
whatever) from the original (LaTeX, SGML, Lout, etc.).
Try 'pdf2html'. See
<URL:http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/pdf2html/>
(Freshmeat entry at
<URL:http://freshmeat.net/projects/pdf2html/?highlight=pdf2html>).
(haven't tried it myself).
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: linux startup graphic
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:59:27 GMT
thanks for the info...
one more question
can I choose the graphic which comes up??
thanks
Sandy
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: calendar
Date: 14 Sep 2000 09:05:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:44:52 -0500, Jason <Jasoncyborgworkshop.com> wrote:
| www.freshmeat.net search for calendar. I use Calcium. love it.
You must be kidding. $55 for an app that comes in dozens of version for
free...
Koos Pol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Hampf)
Subject: Re: you can turn the power off now
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:32:50 +0300
Quentin Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> h�lt �essu fram:
:
: is it possible to run this as a normal user? In order to run this I had to su
: and then shutdown... Is that how you're supposed to do it or am I missing
: something (else)?
I usually change the ctrlaltdel/shutdown/reboot line in /etc/inittab
from shutdown -r to shutdown -h. Then you can shutdown with a three
finger salute.
rh
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Help: batch renaming files - stripping bogus extensions
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:41:16 -0400
John Doherty wrote:
> There's actually nothing "illegal" about a space in a filename. Ill-
> advised, maybe, but not illegal.
It's like spitting on the sidewalk: maybe it isn't illegal,
but it should be.
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: email package to replace Eudora?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:42:24 -0700
*** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in the comp.os.linux.misc newsgroup
about email package to replace Eudora? on Sep 12, 2000:
:) I have moved most of my computing over to Linux, but I still boot
:) into Windows to use Eudora for my email. I know that there are a
:) number of email clients under Linux, but are there any that can
:) import my Eudora mailboxes and address book?
That's not the issue, the point is that you choose a mail client that you
like, and then look for conversion tools, for example, for converting
addressbooks, take a look at http://www.interguru.com
--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
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From: Eduardo Chappa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client for gnome
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:37:24 -0700
*** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in the comp.os.linux.misc newsgroup about
E-mail client for gnome on Sep 13, 2000:
:) I'm searching for a e-mail client for gnome. I have more than one pop3
:) accounts so those must be viewed by this e-mail client. Like outlook for
:) windows. Netscape communicator can't handle more then one pop3 account.
Any version of Pine4.x does what you want, you don't even need fetchmail
to download your mail, all you need to do is define an incoming folder
like this.
In the incoming folder collection (f you don't have one, press M S C and
[X] enable-incoming-folders), press A, and enter for the server name:
your.pop3.server/pop3/user=your_login_there
then it will ask you for a folder to add, enter INBOX, and finally a
nickname for the folder, which can be anything (this is what you'll see
and you can change it if you like afterwards by using the "rename"
command).
Get pine from http://www.washington.edu/pine/ (pine4.30 is about to
appear in a few days)
--
Eduardo
http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/
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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: 14 Sep 2000 19:19:15 +0800
>>>>> "jabali" == jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
jabali> Apple's problem was its closed shop attitude. They won't
jabali> license anybody to produce a clone. No corporate buyer
jabali> would consider a single source product.
Why then would they consider MS Windows, which is a single source
product?
jabali> When IBM tried to produce a non-clonable
jabali> prodcut - PS2 - they lost out and virtually had to get out
jabali> of the PC market.
This theory does not apply to another non-clonable product -- MS
Windows. Why?
P.S. Windows is not clonable -- its "features" (literally, "bugs") and
undocumented features are impossible to clone.
jabali> QL (remember it - Sir Clive's baby), Atari, Amiga - all
jabali> lost out because they could not make up their mind where
jabali> to pitch their products - in the gaming market or in the
jabali> office market. They also did not allow cloning - though
jabali> there were not much enthusiasm for that from clone makers
jabali> - which also played against them. No major corporation
jabali> would take such a product seriously. Home market does not
jabali> make a computer viable, it is the corporate market.
So, why would any corporate buy MS Windows -- a non-clonable product?
--
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition size limit?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:35:55 -0400
Peter Rodriguez wrote:
> Yes, I use a 20 MB boot partition, then the rest, 6.5 GB
> is all Linux :-)
I do pretty much the same thing, but I agree with Peter Breuer
that it is not the way to go. If it were not such a nuisance to
repartition my hard drives, I would reduce the / partition,
certainly by moving /opt, /tmp, and /var elsewhere, to reduce
its size and minimizing its exposure to the slings and arrows of
hardware and software and user errors. Fortunately, with Linux,
I experience extremely few of these. My own mistakes outnumber
the sum of all the rest.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 7:30am up 36 days, 14:57, 2 users, load average: 3.19, 3.15, 2.78
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why linux kernel is compressed?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:38:43 GMT
Hi!
I'm curious that why the linux kernel is compressed, so everytime when
I log on, waste a little time to compress the kernel. As far as I know,
Windows NT or other operating systems's kernel is not compressed, just
a binary.
Anyone can tell me why?
Thank you in advance.
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Before you buy.
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From: James Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xterm disappearing
Date: 14 Sep 2000 12:07:56 GMT
I realize this is normal, but when I "xterm -e ls", the xterm spawns, executes
ls, then exits. How is the best way to have the xterm spawn, execute ls, and
return to a prompt (remain available for use).
Thanks in advance!
Jim
======================
James Young
james at young dot net
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 256 MB memory cant work in REdHat 6.1
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:18:01 -0400
miko wrote:
> I have used 128MB x 2 (total 256MB) in the RH6.1 (Kernel 2.2.12-20)
> however I found only 128MB show on 'dmesg'.
>
> I have already changed the file 'lilo.conf'.
> the context is as follows:
> boot=/dev/sda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/sda12
> append="mem=256M"
>
> I have also reboot the machine.
>
> Moreover, I can find 256MB ram after reboot.
>
> what should I do ?
>
> Michael Kwan
Can anyone explain why some people have this problem, one that we see
repeatedly on this board, and yet some do not?
I could type
I have used 256MB x 2 (total 512MB) in RH 6.0 (Kernel
2.2.14-5.0.14csmp)
and I always find 512MB. (I cannot show you because my machine has
been up so long that my boot sequence has disappeared from both dmesg
and all the /var/log/messages* files. I can show you that it knows the
true memory size from the following:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 529330176 518328320 11001856 91475968 184733696 183607296
Swap: 279642112 17764352 261877760
[snip]
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ )
I have not needed to touch '/etc/lilo.conf'.
the context is as follows:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0.14csmp
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/sda5
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0.14c
label=linux-up
read-only
root=/dev/sda5
[boots of older kernels deleted for brevity]
I am not belittling those that experience these problems. What I do
not understand is why is it that some, myself included, never
experience these problems?
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 7:54am up 36 days, 15:21, 2 users, load average: 3.84, 3.57, 3.34
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions?
Date: 14 Sep 2000 12:22:07 GMT
I plan to set up fetchmail or sendmail with a long-lasting (& free) e-mail
account. I
would like to hear some opinions on either one based on experience, ease
of use, amount of SPAM, mailbox size limits, and so on. Or maybe you
could recommend something better.
I could set it up with Netscape too, but just to read e-mail? I really
plan to use out-of-the-box tools like Pine or Elm
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why linux kernel is compressed?
Date: 14 Sep 2000 12:44:52 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hi!
: I'm curious that why the linux kernel is compressed, so everytime when
: I log on, waste a little time to compress the kernel. As far as I know,
: Windows NT or other operating systems's kernel is not compressed, just
: a binary.
: Anyone can tell me why?
So that you can fit it on a floppy. (also histerical reasons do do with
putting it into 640K first, then moving it up to its final resting
place, which nowadys is done piece by piece, so it's not really
necessary).
That reminds me .. the guy who wanted to preserve the lower 15MB of his
ram for other uses .. well, the kernel and other stuff goes to the
top of memory, doesn't it? The bottom should be free if you just cut
down on the mem= param at bootup.
Peter
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From: Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:52:54 +0200
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>
> I plan to set up fetchmail or sendmail with a long-lasting (& free) e-mail
> account. I
> would like to hear some opinions on either one based on experience, ease
> of use, amount of SPAM, mailbox size limits, and so on. Or maybe you
> could recommend something better.
> I could set it up with Netscape too, but just to read e-mail? I really
> plan to use out-of-the-box tools like Pine or Elm
Can one use fetchmail to fetch mail from yahoo or hotmail?
Anyway, when we got our mail at home I made some testings between
hotmail and yahoo, and yahoo was much faster at sending mails. They
showed up at the recipient server here in Denmark a few seconds after
I hit the send button.
Yahoo has a spam filter. This sends most (not all) spam into
a bulk folder.
Mogens
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Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
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Subject: Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 14 Sep 2000 14:58:21 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>>
>> I plan to set up fetchmail or sendmail with a long-lasting (& free) e-mail
>> account. I
>> would like to hear some opinions on either one based on experience, ease
>> of use, amount of SPAM, mailbox size limits, and so on. Or maybe you
>> could recommend something better.
>> I could set it up with Netscape too, but just to read e-mail? I really
>> plan to use out-of-the-box tools like Pine or Elm
>
>Can one use fetchmail to fetch mail from yahoo or hotmail?
>
Yes, from Yahoo! at least.
/A
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All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LFessen106)
Date: 14 Sep 2000 13:04:43 GMT
Subject: Re: mpeg player for linux?
>> I recommend mpegtv myself.
>
>know of any serial numbers to register the software?
>
>thanks
>
>
It's freeware.. Only the extra gui startup tool is shareware and that's only
$10.
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Subject: Re: Hotmail or yahoo? Opinions?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 14 Sep 2000 15:06:49 +0100
In article <8pqftf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I plan to set up fetchmail or sendmail with a long-lasting (& free) e-mail
>account. I
>would like to hear some opinions on either one based on experience, ease
>of use, amount of SPAM, mailbox size limits, and so on. Or maybe you
>could recommend something better.
IMHO Yahoo! is the better one. Both have "spam filtering" (but nothing
is as good as junkfilter (see <URL:http://junkfilter.zer0.org/>) and
Yahoo! have 6 Mb of storage (expandable if you pay). I don't know how
much you may use on Hotmail (5 or 6 MB).
Yahoo! also "feels" more secure.
Try them both, pick the one you like most.
>I could set it up with Netscape too, but just to read e-mail? I really
>plan to use out-of-the-box tools like Pine or Elm
...or mutt.
I don't know if Hotmail allows POP access. I use POP access (with
fetchmail) from Yahoo!.
/A
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