Linux-Misc Digest #769, Volume #21 Sat, 11 Sep 99 21:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do you pronounce Linux? (Andy Busch)
Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL (Hal Burgiss)
Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone? (Kenny McCormack)
Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0 (Hal Burgiss)
Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone? (Bill Unruh)
Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone? (Bill Unruh)
ifconfig question (Michael Starkie)
Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone? (Charles M)
Re: FREE EAST TIMOR!!! STOP THE KILLING!!! (Jerry L Kreps)
Re: screen capture (Anders Bornas)
Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself (Phil Hunt)
Re: C++ Error ("Jill")
Running A.OUT (libc.so.4) programs under RH 6.x - it works, but I have a question
(Kenny McCormack)
Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL (Hal Burgiss)
GNOME startup files and K sound daemon? (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: ifconfig question (David Crooke)
Re: Running A.OUT (libc.so.4) programs under RH 6.x - it works, but I have a
question (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: SupraMax PCI Modem under Red Hat 5.2 (C. C. McPherson)
===Any way to set default font at startup?=== (Andrew Purugganan)
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From: Andy Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Linux?
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:14:34 +0000
Laurence W Reeves wrote:
>
> In article <7rbj8h$6s5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward
> Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >It's Lynn-ux for the OS and Lie-nus for the guy. Don't ask me why though
> >:-) Best Regards...
>
> Curious... I have an english.au file tucked away here which says "My
> name is Lea-nus Tour-vaulds and I pronounce Lea-nooks as Lea-nooks".
>
> Someone must know where I got it from?
This is an old file, and is mirrored on kernel.org.
That is also proper is you were speaking with a Finnish accent. The
English pronunciation of Linus is "Lie-nuss". Since Linux is a play on
Linus's name, calling the OS "Lie-nucks" should be OK. However, it is
common practice to call it "lynn-ucks" Reportedly even Linus has begun
calling it "lynn-ucks" in recent times. No matter what, however, it is
wrong to call the OS "lynn-ucks" and then retroactively mispronounce
Linus's name "lynn-uss". Wrong I tell you!
Andy
--
Andy Busch & "Andy, sometimes I think you're strange,
The College of Wooster & and then you say something, and I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] & know for sure." - Nick D. Kost, to me
http://buschap.wooster.edu/~andy & http://pages.wooster.edu/buschap
AIM: apbusch & ICQ: 35760210
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:03:35 -0500
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:27:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This is a really strange problem. I've been using a stock RedHat 5.2
>system for about a year with no problems. I recently got ADSL service
>from BellSouth. It works really well, except for one (really important)
>thing: Netscape Navigator can't do DNS lookups properly. Here're the
>facts:
>
> * Doing a "nslookup hostname.com" works fine. DNS lookups also
> work fine for other software, such as lynx, ping, ssh, etc.
> * When Netscape tries to do a DNS lookup, its CPU usage goes up to
> 95%, and my other ADSL networking dies (i.e., all my telnet
> sessions are hung, ping hangs, etc.). When I hit "stop" in
> Netscape, my networking is fine (i.e., telnet connections
> weren't dropped, just hung). I have left Netscape for 10
> minutes to see what happens, and it never completes the DNS
> lookup.
> * I have tried this with Netscape versions 4.51, 4.6, and 4.07
> with the same results.
> * In desperation, I setup a caching DNS server on my machine, and
> put 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/resolv.conf. So now when I want to go
> to foo.com, I do a "nslookup foo.com", and then I can go to
> foo.com from Netscape, since foo.com will already be in named's
> cache, and Netscape will look it up quickly and proceed as
> normal. Obviously, this is a non-optimal way to browse the web.
> * I have tried a variety of different name servers, including ones
> at my company, the ones that DHCP sets up in
> /etc/resolv.conf.dhcp, and the root nameservers that my named
> uses. Same effect for all of them.
> * I never had any problems like this when I was using PPP for
> internet service.
>
With RH6, NS 4.61 and BS ADSL, I have had no problems. Which doesn't
solve your problem, but I would have to think this is not a NS problem
per se. Is NS using a proxy by any chance?
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone?
Date: 11 Sep 1999 17:31:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> > Does anyone know if Red Hat is really removing this, the only
>> > usable partitoning tool?
Except that it just isn't true.
Within the last week, I installed RH 6.0 from a pair of CD's bought from LSL,
and fdisk was there in the install (it asks you which tool you want to use
and you just tab to 'fdisk'). Then you get into good old fashioned normal
fdisk.
Can't imagine why you think it is not there...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: xfs on Redhat 6.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Sep 1999 18:40:39 -0500
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 05:20:07 GMT, R.K.Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Err... isn't it mentioned in the same "newfontsystem" whitepaper you
>yourself quoted from earlyer?
>
>K.
>
Yes, but unfortunately there is not enough free space in my brain folder
to accept new data readily ;)
And, including some worthwhile documentation with 6.0 itself would have
been a nice touch.
>Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
>> Well, I solved my problem. From what I can tell, X uses the FontPath as
>> defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config, this regardless of what is in
>> /etc/X11/fs/config or whatever font server config file there is. When I
>> upgraded, my FontPath was the same from previous version. Once I changed
>> it to 'unix/:-1' and commented out the old FontPath, restarted xfs and
>> then restarted X, I finally had true type. This may be documented
>> somewhere, but it's sure hard to find.
>
>--
>Step by step guide to TrueType fonts under RedHat6:
>http://home.powertech.no/rkaa/Linux_and_tv.html#ttf
> To E-mail, delete "spam"
Well done!
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone?
Date: 11 Sep 1999 23:31:09 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Charles M) writes:
>It was in Linux Weekly News. Check out:
>http://www.lwn.net/1999/0909/dists.phtml
>wherein they state:
>'Fdisk is gone - the installation throws the user, willing or not,
>directly into DiskDruid. "Expert mode" might still provide fdisk - we did
>not check. '
They seem to mean in the installation process. But the question is whether or not
fdisk is installed on the system at all.
I know they went through this with the dump/restore where they removed it from 5.0 but
by 5.2 had
reinstated it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone?
Date: 11 Sep 1999 23:37:33 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Charles M) writes:
>'Fdisk is gone - the installation throws the user, willing or not,
>directly into DiskDruid. "Expert mode" might still provide fdisk - we did
>not check. '
I have just checked on Linux Mandrake 6.1 release and it certainly still has fdisk in
the util-linux
package. Of course this may not have any bearing on RedHat.
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From: Michael Starkie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ifconfig question
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:41:33 -0400
My default route is through my ehternet device ( eth0 ). When I want
to connect to a private network using ppp, I must bring down my ehternet
device so that my ppp device ( ppp0 ) is used as a default device. Must
I do this? I can't ping any IP address inside the private network until
I issue: "/sbin/ifconfig eth0 down". After this I can ping any host
inside the private network. The ehternet device is configured with a
dynamic IP address by DHCP as is the ppp device. After I finish using
the private network by exiting ppp, I can't use the ethernet device by
simply issuing" "/sbin/ifconfig eth0 up" because this command does not
bind the original IP address that was once assigned to this device. How
to I reconfigure the eth0 device with the original IP address?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: Re: New Red Hat - fdisk gone?
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:42:47 -0500
In article <7rel7u$1c6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >> > Does anyone know if Red Hat is really removing this, the only
> >> > usable partitoning tool?
>
> Except that it just isn't true.
>
> Within the last week, I installed RH 6.0 from a pair of CD's bought from LSL,
>
Re-read the original post, I'm not talking about the current version.
>
> Can't imagine why you think it is not there...
>
That answer is in the link in my last post.
CMM
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: FREE EAST TIMOR!!! STOP THE KILLING!!!
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:00:15 -0500
Easy, Pedro!
Just have Congress take another look at Chinagate and Clinton will be
sending in bombers and troops faster than you can say 'coverup'. This
ploy should work again, because it worked four times before.
Pedro RA wrote:
>
> Sorry to post off topic but this is EXTREMELY important!
>
> FREE EAST TIMOR NOW!
> STOP THE KILLING KNOW!
>
> Please take a look at the nearest
> internacional news broadcast.
>
> Remember KOSOVO, RUANDA,
> BOSNIA, CAMBODJA, KURDISTAN,
> or the HOLOCAUST. Or remember all
> of them. You may as well add
> EAST TIMOR to this list.
>
> DO SOMETHING!
>
> Do what ever you can.
>
> Better even:
> STOP SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED!
>
> FREE EAST TIMOR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anders Bornas)
Subject: Re: screen capture
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:24:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson) writes:
> You can use that wonderful graphic program xv to grab screens, windows,
> cropped areas, etc.
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:47:49 -0500, Thomas Boggs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>You can simply use 'import' if you have ImageMagick installed.
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Is there a generic facility in X to make a screen (or window) capture,
>>> or do I need to install a thrid-party program?
There's also a program called "xwd". It's entirely command line based and
has all the advantages/disadvantages they usually have.
It's not very fancy, but you can add a whole lot of parameters to make it
obey your will...
:-)
--
boran - usually goes for "xv", but likes xwd too
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Figure Out The MS Source Code Yourself
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 99 15:38:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David Frantz" writes:
> You have to be very carefull now a days with recieving RF
> transmissions. We in the USA are now in the unique position of sharing
> a law that make the reception of radio signals from Cell Phones a
> crime. The only other country that we share such a law with is North
> Korea, really make you wonder!
>
> Also the FCC, under pressure from the FBI, CIA, NSA and other goverment
> organizations, to restrict what you can listen to. The FCC was also
> just recently forced to change its Cell Phone regulations to require Cell
> Phone companies to provide tracking capabilities. This is so Big
> Brother will always know were you are.
In the light of things like this, I find it surprising that anyone
doubts that the NSA might force Microsoft to put a backdoor in
Windows.
--
Phil Hunt - - - - - - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Linux will be 8 years old on 17th September! See: -
http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/prog/linuxbirthday.html
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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C++ Error
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:34:25 -0700
Oh dear, maybe not. Can I copy it from my RedHat Cd, or do I have to do an
install? That'd be a major bother since I have Oracle running on that
server.
Adrian Hands wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Jill wrote:
>>
>> Trying to do a simple compile for the first time and am getting the
>> following. Can someone tell me where I went wrong?
>>
>> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or
directory
>
>Did you install egcs-c++ ?
>(It's a seperate package from egcs )
>
>$ locate cc1plus
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.27/cc1plus
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/cc1plus
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-glibc20-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cc1plus
>$ rpm -qf /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66/cc1plus
>egcs-c++-1.1.2-12
>$
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Running A.OUT (libc.so.4) programs under RH 6.x - it works, but I have a
question
Date: 11 Sep 1999 19:31:03 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In order to run a.out binaries (QMAGIC or ZMAGIC), I have to (manually)
insmod the binfmt_aout module. This is no big deal and I could simply put a
line in rc.local to do it, but I am curious about something.
In Debian, binfmt_aout is "automagically" loaded (by kerneld, no doubt) when
I attempt to run a AOUT binary. In RH, I have to load it manually.
Why is this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Linux Netscape can't do DNS lookups using ADSL
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Sep 1999 20:35:34 -0500
On 11 Sep 1999 19:03:35 -0500, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:27:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>This is a really strange problem. I've been using a stock RedHat 5.2
>>system for about a year with no problems. I recently got ADSL service
>>from BellSouth. It works really well, except for one (really important)
>>thing: Netscape Navigator can't do DNS lookups properly. Here're the
>>facts:
>>
>> * Doing a "nslookup hostname.com" works fine. DNS lookups also
>> work fine for other software, such as lynx, ping, ssh, etc.
>> * When Netscape tries to do a DNS lookup, its CPU usage goes up to
>> 95%, and my other ADSL networking dies (i.e., all my telnet
>> sessions are hung, ping hangs, etc.). When I hit "stop" in
>> Netscape, my networking is fine (i.e., telnet connections
>> weren't dropped, just hung). I have left Netscape for 10
>> minutes to see what happens, and it never completes the DNS
>> lookup.
>> * I have tried this with Netscape versions 4.51, 4.6, and 4.07
>> with the same results.
>> * In desperation, I setup a caching DNS server on my machine, and
>> put 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/resolv.conf. So now when I want to go
>> to foo.com, I do a "nslookup foo.com", and then I can go to
>> foo.com from Netscape, since foo.com will already be in named's
>> cache, and Netscape will look it up quickly and proceed as
>> normal. Obviously, this is a non-optimal way to browse the web.
>> * I have tried a variety of different name servers, including ones
>> at my company, the ones that DHCP sets up in
>> /etc/resolv.conf.dhcp, and the root nameservers that my named
>> uses. Same effect for all of them.
>> * I never had any problems like this when I was using PPP for
>> internet service.
>>
>
>With RH6, NS 4.61 and BS ADSL, I have had no problems. Which doesn't
>solve your problem, but I would have to think this is not a NS problem
>per se. Is NS using a proxy by any chance?
>
Correction to 'no problems at all': just had a bizarre NS lockup, which
not only took down X, but put my monitor into sleep mode (no screen at
all), and locked the keyboard. I suspect the Alcatel is involved somehow
since dhcp kept failing until I powered down/up the Alcatel.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Linux helps those who help themselves
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME startup files and K sound daemon?
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:48:46 -0400
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me which files GNOME uses to start
up, and in particular which one contains the command that starts up the
esd sound daemon.
Also, I was wondering if KDE has its own proprietary sound daemon like
GNOME. I am seriously considering switching to KDE, and in all
probability I'd do it if I knew that the same problems wouldn't be
waiting for me.
Regards,
Mladen
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From: David Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ifconfig question
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:32:15 GMT
Michael Starkie wrote:
>
> My default route is through my ehternet device ( eth0 ). When I want
> to connect to a private network using ppp, I must bring down my ehternet
> device so that my ppp device ( ppp0 ) is used as a default device. Must
> I do this? I can't ping any IP address inside the private network until
> I issue: "/sbin/ifconfig eth0 down". After this I can ping any host
> inside the private network. The ehternet device is configured with a
> dynamic IP address by DHCP as is the ppp device. After I finish using
> the private network by exiting ppp, I can't use the ethernet device by
> simply issuing" "/sbin/ifconfig eth0 up" because this command does not
> bind the original IP address that was once assigned to this device. How
> to I reconfigure the eth0 device with the original IP address?
It shouldn't be necessary to take down the ethernet card - just make
sure there is an appropriate netmask and routing for the private network
set to use ppp0 and all will be well, and you can use both
simultaneously.
Dave
--
David Crooke, Austin TX, USA. +1 (512) 656 6102
"Open source software - with no walls and fences, who needs Windows
and Gates?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Running A.OUT (libc.so.4) programs under RH 6.x - it works, but I have a
question
Date: 12 Sep 1999 00:40:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Kenny McCormack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> In order to run a.out binaries (QMAGIC or ZMAGIC), I have to (manually)
> insmod the binfmt_aout module. This is no big deal and I could simply put a
> line in rc.local to do it, but I am curious about something.
>
> In Debian, binfmt_aout is "automagically" loaded (by kerneld, no doubt) when
> I attempt to run a AOUT binary. In RH, I have to load it manually.
When configuring/complaining your kernel I believe there is an option to auto
load modules when they are needed.
- Justin
--
_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!! * LINUX RULES *
_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ---- Jesus Is Lord ----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C. C. McPherson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SupraMax PCI Modem under Red Hat 5.2
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:51:55 -0400
> Hi.
>
> I bought a SupraMax 56k PCI and it works fine under Windows 9x/NT.
> I tried to use it under Red Hat Linux 5.2 and I could not get the modem
> to work.
>
> Before I bought it, I checked
>
>http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/hardware/intel/52/rh52-hardware-intel-14.html#ss14.3
>
> and it says that the following (among others) are incompatible modems:
>
> - Plug-and-Play (PNP) modems (these may be set up via isapnptools and
> setserial).
> - Modems that require software drivers for compression, error
> correction, high-speed operation, etc.
> - PCI Memory Mapped Modems (these do not act like serial ports)
> - Internal SupraExpress 56k
> - Internal SupraSonic 56k
> - ...
>
> But is says nothing about SupraMax. So I assumed it would work.
>
> I have read now "Modems: Traditional, Controller-less and Soft" white
> paper
> http://www.supra.com/products/white-papers/communications/c-less_paper.html
>
> and now I am afraid that is too late.
>
> Is it possible to get the modem working in a different OS other that
> Windows 9x/NT ?
> And is it possible to get the modem working under Linux ?
>
> Thank you
> Goncalo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
Sorry but 99% of PCI modems are win modems. Best bet, since the manufactures
hide the winmodem fact (which should be illegal), is get an external modem.
Before buying any modem, you need to check out
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
this is a very extensive list of modems and type.
Clyde
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: ===Any way to set default font at startup?===
Date: 12 Sep 1999 00:59:35 GMT
I am able to manipulate the colors of the bash prompt on my plain old
text screen. Am I restricted to the default fonts though, because I am
able to pick and choose different fonts in Xwindows. Or is it because
Xwindows has a font server running? Reply by e-mail would be appreciated,
but I'll still be lurking
--
Andy Purugganan
annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
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