Linux-Misc Digest #827, Volume #21 Wed, 15 Sep 99 20:13:08 EDT
Contents:
user-mount problems ("Markus Hasen�hrl")
Documentation ("David Truesdale")
Thursday 16 September 1999: Linux Kernel Birthday Bash ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with pcmcia 3.09 source code: MISSING FILE? (Paul J Collins)
How to record ONLY mic-in? (Walter Francis)
Re: LILO scrambled after power down (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: A simple way to upload multiple files per ftp (Johannes Nix)
real-time spell checker ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Telnet as root (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Philip Brown)
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Spike!)
Re: Caldera Linux 2.2 has a problem? (Bob Hauck)
windows and linux on the same machine. (Dave Robbins)
Running a program ? HELP ("Sridhar")
Re: Caldera Linux 2.2 has a problem?
AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port! (Dustin Puryear)
Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port! ("Pat Crean")
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From: "Markus Hasen�hrl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: user-mount problems
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:05:41 +0200
Hello!
I recently upgraded my suse-linux from 5.3 to 6.1 (kernel 2.2.5 I believe)
and now have problems with mounting filesystems as a non-root-user.
e.g. I have a entry in /etc/fstab like
/dev/hda7 /win/d rw,noauto,user,umask=0 1 1
now as far I understand the entry "user" should permit any user to mount
this filesystem.
If I try that with "mount /win/d" I always get the error message "must be
root to use mount". It worked before. Any idea about what is going wrong
here?
Thanks for every hint!
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From: "David Truesdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Documentation
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:36:45 -0500
I know this can be a real bad subject from time to time. I am in need of
some example documentation on setting up Apache and sendmail. I know LDP has
docs only problem is they are incoplete or don't cover the subject I am
looking into. Documentation is probably the biggest thing this OS needs to
be better than it's counter part. If anyone has any examples of setting up
these please email them to me I need some help. Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: nyc.seminars,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Thursday 16 September 1999: Linux Kernel Birthday Bash
Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:06:31 GMT
We will celebrate the 8th birthday of the Linux kernel, the most popular
free kernel in the world, on Thursday 16 September 1999 at AboveNet,
second floor of 111 Eighth Avenue, near 16th Street on the Island of
Manhattan. Full details below in the NYLUG announcement.
The weather will be cool with intense showers of schwag every half hour.
This party begins at 3:00 pm and all are invited.
Teachers and students and and librarians and businessfolk and those who
still run, or are required to run, source secret OSes are particularly
welcome. We should be delighted to have any serious sceptics come and
explain why what they see before them does not exist.
The Linux kernel, the GNU environment and tools, the X Window system,
several window managers, compilers and interpreters, games, web servers
and browsers, email programs, and more will be demonstrated.
Jim Gleason, Ari Jort, and Barry Hughes are lead workers on this event.
AboveNet and VA Linux have pitched in and generously provided space and
bandwidth and machines,
For some history of the early days of Linux see
http://www.sslug.dk/artikler/linux_history_1.html
Here is the 5 October 1991 announcement that the Linux kernel is available
on the net.
<blockquote>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Free minix-like kernel sources for 386-AT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5 Oct 91 05:41:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote
their own device drivers? Are you without a nice project and just dying
to cut your teeth on a OS you can try to modify for your needs? Are you
finding it frustrating when everything works on minix? No more all-
nighters to get a nifty program working? Then this post might be just
for you :-)
As I mentioned a month(?) ago, I'm working on a free version of a
minix-lookalike for AT-386 computers. It has finally reached the stage
where it's even usable (though may not be depending on what you want),
and I am willing to put out the sources for wider distribution. It is
just version 0.02 (+1 (very small) patch already), but I've successfully
run bash/gcc/gnu-make/gnu-sed/compress etc under it.
Sources for this pet project of mine can be found at nic.funet.fi
(128.214.6.100) in the directory /pub/OS/Linux. The directory also
contains some README-file and a couple of binaries to work under linux
(bash, update and gcc, what more can you ask for :-). Full kernel
source is provided, as no minix code has been used. Library sources are
only partially free, so that cannot be distributed currently. The
system is able to compile "as-is" and has been known to work. Heh.
Sources to the binaries (bash and gcc) can be found at the same place in
/pub/gnu.
ALERT! WARNING! NOTE! These sources still need minix-386 to be compiled
(and gcc-1.40, possibly 1.37.1, haven't tested), and you need minix to
set it up if you want to run it, so it is not yet a standalone system
for those of you without minix. I'm working on it. You also need to be
something of a hacker to set it up (?), so for those hoping for an
alternative to minix-386, please ignore me. It is currently meant for
hackers interested in operating systems and 386's with access to minix.
The system needs an AT-compatible harddisk (IDE is fine) and EGA/VGA. If
you are still interested, please ftp the README/RELNOTES, and/or mail me
for additional info.
I can (well, almost) hear you asking yourselves "why?". Hurd will be
out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows), and I've already got
minix. This is a program for hackers by a hacker. I've enjouyed doing
it, and somebody might enjoy looking at it and even modifying it for
their own needs. It is still small enough to understand, use and
modify, and I'm looking forward to any comments you might have.
I'm also interested in hearing from anybody who has written any of the
utilities/library functions for minix. If your efforts are freely
distributable (under copyright or even public domain), I'd like to hear
from you, so I can add them to the system. I'm using Earl Chews estdio
right now (thanks for a nice and working system Earl), and similar works
will be very wellcome. Your (C)'s will of course be left intact. Drop me
a line if you are willing to let me use your code.
Linus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PS. to PHIL NELSON! I'm unable to get through to you, and keep getting
"forward error - strawberry unknown domain" or something.
</blockquote>
Project GNU continues work on the Hurd, which today actually boots. The
three free BSD kernels are another line of development of free kernels.
There are several free real time kernels, and recently, at least one free
Scheme which boots on the metal.
http://www.tunes.org/Review/OSes.html
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
From: Jim Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New York's Linux Demo Days - Sept. 16th
*** New York's Linux Demo Days Event ***
Date: 9/16/99
Time: 3pm-8pm
Location: AboveNet Datacenter, 111 8th Ave. @ 16th St., 2nd floor,
tel 212-744-8717
The Linux Demo Day project (www.linuxdemo.org) is a joint international
effort amongst Linux User Groups to demonstrate the Linux Operating System
at locations around the world during the week of September 13th-17th.
Here in New York City, NYLUG (The New York Linux Users Group), LXNY
(NY's Free Software Users Group), and LUNY (Linux Users of New York) are
holding the event in conjunction with VA Linux Systems and AboveNet this
Thursday, Sept. 16th from 3pm-8pm.
AboveNet is providing space at their brand new datacenter in Chelsea and
VA Linux Systems (www.valinux.com) is providing Linux workstations.
WHAT ARE THE LINUX DEMOS?
* an all-day game of networked Quake
* streaming a full-length feature film
* surfing the Web on killer OC-48 lines.
Hope to see you there!
- Jim
========================================================================
Jim Gleason VA Linux Systems
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.valinux.com
phone: 718-858-4349 Pres. New York Linux Users Group
fax: 718-858-4242 http://www.nylug.org
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From: Paul J Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem with pcmcia 3.09 source code: MISSING FILE?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 23:25:30 +0100
>>>>> "Kenny" == Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
--snip--
Kenny> Note: If you followup on Usenet, be sure to include
Kenny> c.o.l.misc, as that is the only group (to which this has
Kenny> been posted) that I read.
--snip--
This is what the Followup-To: header was invented for.
Paul.
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distracted by bright and shiny objects."
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to record ONLY mic-in?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:22:23 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to be able to use the Linux box as a telephone recorder,
and I have the little phone<->soundcard box and it works fine, if I turn
the microphone input on in the mixer I hear the phoneline (typically
modem.. :)
Now, I normally am running MP3's all the time, and I can't seem to
figure out how to record only the micrphone input on my soundcard, which
is an Ensoniq (es1370).
So if that's possible, anyone know of a specific package (or a way to
use any recording method) to record only upon use of the phoneline? VOX
operation, if you will..
I can make diald enable/diable the program so I am not filling up the
disk with the modem noise. :)
Any help or pointers are appreciated!
--
Walter Francis
http://wally.hplx.net Powered by RedHat 6.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: LILO scrambled after power down
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:51:08 GMT
In article <alkbr7.lj6.ln@localhost>, Stuart R. Fuller wrote:
>Cameron L. Spitzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stacey Hill wrote:
>: >A power outage in our area turn my computer off and on again.
>:
>: If you shut Linux off without unmounting the file systems,
>: the file system checker will run when you start it up.
>: In rare cases, it may be possible that the file system checker would
>: decide something was wrong with a file that LILO uses,
>: and move or remove it.
>
>That's interesting, since fsck runs on file systems, and the boot blocks and
>other information used at boot time is not on a file system. Can you cite one
>of those rare cases where fsck will mess with the boot blocks?
LILO uses a mapfile. LILO looks at it through its own disk pointers,
but everything else accesses it through the file system.
If the crash destroyed the directory, the blocks are still there but
the file isn't. If you're unlucky, the blocks go on the free list,
and something uses them for a temp or log file a little while later.
Cameron
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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.servers.general,redhat.general
Subject: Re: A simple way to upload multiple files per ftp
Date: 16 Sep 1999 01:54:12 +0200
Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can somebody tell me a simple way to upload a filesystem tree with multiple
> files. I have to do it periodically, so I wan't to do it with the help
> of cron. ^^^^^
Wound't it be indicated to use cron to upload periodically? Perhaps
combined with a timestamp check ?
Well, you can use ftp and say "prompt off" and "mput *". But this does
not recurse into directories.
You could create a script as input to ftp which goes to the
directories and does this automatically. There exist a "mirror"
command which does exactly this.
If you have shell (or secure shell) access, use rsync. It can be much
faster. It also handles hard links correctly etc.
Another tool I remember is lftp. Perhaps practical also.
Johannes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: real-time spell checker
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:52:25 GMT
I'm looking for a real-time spell checker for Linux, similar to OS/2's
SpellGuard. Such a program would intercept input from the keyboard and
spell-check it on the fly (and hence would provide full-time
spell-checking for all applications). I haven't been able to find
anything like this for Linux. Any suggestions?
TIA
Mike Miller
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet as root
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:24:23 -0700
what's wrong with using su or su - and not opening up security holes ??
Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Sep 1999 18:05:59 GMT
On 15 Sep 1999 17:07:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
>['star' has] the most UNIX like option parsing that I know of.
>....
"The most UNIX like option" in my opinion, would be to use getopt().
That is to say, MODERN, STANDARDIZED UNIX, not 1980s UNIX.
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The word of the day is mispergitude
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:50:19 +0100
And verily, didst Paul Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
> I have just installed Sybase Adaptive Server 6.x on RH6.
> How do you add /opt/SYBSasa6/lib to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
In csh or tcsh, it's simply a matter of adding
setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/opt/SYBSasa6/lib
to your .cshrc file (in your home directory)
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From: Bob Hauck <b o b h @ w a s a t c h . c o m>
Subject: Re: Caldera Linux 2.2 has a problem?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 12:31:50 -0600
Stephen Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 (bought the CD from
> www.LinuxCentral.com) onto my new computer. The only problem is that,
> whenever I shut down the computer, and turn it back on later that same
> day, it gives me an error stating "No Operating System".
1. You don't have a floppy in the drive, now do you?
2. COL by default installs LILO on the Linux partition. If that is not
marked as the active partition, then your computer may try to boot some
other partition which may or may not have an OS on it. You can check
which partitions are active (aka bootable) with fdisk (DOS or Linux).
If it isn't the correct one, then changing it should fix your system.
3. Related to the above, you can put LILO on the Master Boot Record
(MBR) of your first disk. This avoids the problem of #2 but creates one
of removing LILO if you want to get rid of Linux (DOS fdisk /mbr
restores the DOS MBR). To do this you need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to
install to the raw device instead of a partition (change, for example,
/dev/hda1 to /dev/hda) and then re-run lilo.
#2 is probably the thing to try first...
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Wasatch Communications Group
-| http://www.wasatch.com/~bobh
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From: Dave Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: windows and linux on the same machine.
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:31:22 GMT
Hello,
I was wondering, how would I go about using windows and linux on my
computer? My computer is a Compaq Presario 5724.
Thanks for your time.
Dave Robbins
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From: "Sridhar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running a program ? HELP
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:46:32 -0400
how do i run a program in Linux??
--
Sridhar
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera Linux 2.2 has a problem?
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:49:12 -0400
I have the same exact problem. I have not figured it out yet if you do let
me know how to fix this.
Thanks,
Jared
Stephen Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 (bought the CD from
> www.LinuxCentral.com) onto my new computer. The only problem is that,
> whenever I shut down the computer, and turn it back on later that same
> day, it gives me an error stating "No Operating System". So, I re-
> installed Caldera Open Linux 2.2 and shut it down after It ran KDE, and
> restarted the computer and I still get that problem. How do I fix this?
>
> thank you.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port!
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:42:59 GMT
It's simple enough to enable AutoPPP and allow Windows DUN users to
dial-in with PAP. However, to make the process simple for the remote
user the system needs to autoassign an ip address to each PPP client.
I realize this can be done within the options file like so:
aa.bb.cc.dd:ww.xx.yy.zz
where aa.bb.cc.dd is the server and ww.xx.yy.zz is the client. But how
does this work with AutoPPP? I can only specify one options file for
AutoPPP to call when bringing up pppd, so how can I assign an ip
address to each port?
Better yet, is there a better way? Any help or advise would be greatly
appreciated!
---
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: AutoPPP and assigning ip numbers based on port!
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:51:37 -0400
Anything wrong with options.ttyS0, options.ttyS1, etc???
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It's simple enough to enable AutoPPP and allow Windows DUN users to
> dial-in with PAP. However, to make the process simple for the remote
> user the system needs to autoassign an ip address to each PPP client.
> I realize this can be done within the options file like so:
>
> aa.bb.cc.dd:ww.xx.yy.zz
>
> where aa.bb.cc.dd is the server and ww.xx.yy.zz is the client. But how
> does this work with AutoPPP? I can only specify one options file for
> AutoPPP to call when bringing up pppd, so how can I assign an ip
> address to each port?
>
> Better yet, is there a better way? Any help or advise would be greatly
> appreciated!
> ---
> Dustin Puryear
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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