Linux-Misc Digest #851, Volume #21 Fri, 17 Sep 99 16:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Local printing using ansi emulation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Unknown Redhat 6.0 Crash. (scrambo)
Re: help with OEM internal IDE zip drive? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: win95 --nullmodem--> linux via PPP? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Machine won't utilize swap space ("Drydd")
Modem died after a crash (Ramin Sina)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Ilya)
Re: "autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux? (Big Daddy)
Re: Getting confused with the virtual terminals (Stan Barr)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Johannes Nix)
Re: Absurd Linux mentality (Johannes Nix)
Re: Modem died after a crash (Troy Carter)
Re: LILO without linux! (Jayan M)
Re: Kernel won't change! Please please help (Jayan M)
Re: Favorite Editor? (Jayan M)
Re: Loadlin nukes APM BIOS save-to-disk feature (Elchonon Edelson)
Re: "Linux" & "Penguin" copyright ? ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Local printing using ansi emulation
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:10:25 GMT
How can I sent and what is the escape sequence for
use the transparent print resource on a telnet
session? You know any FAQ?
In article
<4Pzu3.924$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Americo Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm newbie to Linux (not to unix). I use the
same version of SCO Unix
> > (5.0.5) on our server. Several windows98
machines on our network access the
> > SCO server to run a character application.
We're using the great Netterm
> > from Neosoft, but it doesn't have a linux
version! So I have the same
> > problem that you - can't print to a local
printer when using Linux and a
> > emulator like xvt, xterm, konsole, etc. The
emulator ignores the
> > "transparent print" escape sequence.
>
> XFree86 xterm supports the "transparent print"
escape sequence(s).
>
> The XFree86 3.3.3.1 xterm supports ANSI color
and VT220 emulation
> There's an faq at
>
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
> ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm
>
> --
> Thomas E. Dickey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
>
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From: scrambo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unknown Redhat 6.0 Crash.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:33:41 GMT
I'm getting an unknow crash. No log report, no security report.
Running AMD k6300 on FIC 503. Was stable under prior Redhat 4.X kernels.
I'll include my dmesg next. After that I'll include some other diag
whilst running normall (?)...
The whole system locks, none of the other tty's accessible,
can't telnet in, cant Ctrl-Alt-Del. Frozen solid?
Maybe Netscape is killing me? Reroll kernel?
Thanks in advance,
--Pinche
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Dmesg:
Linux version 2.2.5-22 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Wed Jun 2 09:02:27
EDT 1999
Detected 300688487 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 599.65 BogoMIPS
Memory: 127756k/131072k available (996k kernel code, 412k reserved,
1572k data, 60k init)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: AMD AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 00
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb3d0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: 00:38 [1106/0586]: Work around ISA DMA hangs (00)
Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds.
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.9)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x6400-0x6407, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x6408-0x640f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: FUJITSU MPC3043AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: WDC AC32500H, ATA DISK drive
hdc: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5502TA, ATAPI CDROM drive
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 60k freed
Adding Swap: 66996k swap-space (priority -1)
Adding Swap: 65012k swap-space (priority -2)
Adding Swap: 88320k swap-space (priority -3)
eth0: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 at 0x6c00, 00:A0:C9:20:A5:67, IRQ 9.
Board assembly 352509-003, Physical connectors present: RJ45
Primary interface chip DP83840 PHY #1.
DP83840 specific setup, setting register 23 to 8462.
General self-test: passed.
Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
Internal registers self-test: passed.
ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x49caa8d6).
Receiver lock-up workaround activated.
eth1: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 60 08 10 72 c6,
IRQ 5.
3c509.c:1.16 (2.2) 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eth1: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses.
Xserver: xdpyinfo:
name of display: :0.0
version number: 11.0
vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number: 3330
maximum request size: 4194300 bytes
motion buffer size: 256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order: LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats: 2
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 134
focus: window 0x140000e, revert to Parent
number of extensions: 19
BIG-REQUESTS
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
LBX
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
RECORD
SECURITY
SHAPE
SYNC
XC-APPGROUP
XC-MISC
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-Misc
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
default screen number: 0
number of screens: 1
screen #0:
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (433x347 millimeters)
resolution: 75x75 dots per inch
depths (1): 24
root window id: 0x25
depth of root window: 24 planes
number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1
default screen number: 0
number of screens: 1
screen #0:
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (433x347 millimeters)
resolution: 75x75 dots per inch
depths (1): 24
root window id: 0x25
depth of root window: 24 planes
number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1
default colormap: 0x21
default number of colormap cells: 256
preallocated pixels: black 0, white 16777215
options: backing-store YES, save-unders YES
largest cursor: 64x64
current input event mask: 0x50003d
KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask
ButtonReleaseMask
EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask
SubstructureRedirectMask
PropertyChangeMask
number of visuals: 1
default visual id: 0x20
visual:
visual id: 0x20
class: TrueColor
depth: 24 planes
available colormap entries: 256 per subfield
red, green, blue masks: 0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
significant bits in color specification: 8 bits
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help with OEM internal IDE zip drive?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:05:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I tried editing the parameters for /dev/hdd1 to match those of the
> floppy...but that didn't work. I just want to be able to read and write to
> ext2 and msdos/vfat zip disks and mount & unmount them easily. I read the
> mini-HOWTO, but it really doesn't cover the IDE drive. I know this is just a
> matter of not knowing how to edit the fstab and an incomplete understanding of
> Linux/Unix filesystems. If someone can help me, I'll write it up and submit
> it to the LDP for inclusion in the zip drive mini -Howto.
Zip drives have traditionally (for some mysterious reason) come preformatted on
partition 4. That means you are very likely to need to use hdd4 rather than hdd1
to mount a pre-formatted disk.
To be able to use *both* ext2 and dosfat formatted disks, you'll need two
separate entries in your fstab. I make it a point to use partition 1 iff I
reformat a disk to ext2, and leave the others formatted on partition 4 so the
lines from my fstab look like this:
/dev/hdd1 /zip-1 ext2 noauto,user,rw 0 0
/dev/hdd4 /zip-4 vfat noauto,user,rw 0 0
So I
mount /zip-1
if I'm using an ext2 disk, and I
mount /zip-4
if I'm using a dosfat disk.
Use whatever mountpoints you please, such as /mnt/ext2zip and /mnt/doszip, or
whatever, and create the necessary directories. Notice also that I told it hdd4
was a vfat, so I can use the bogo long file names on it.
Good luck,
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: win95 --nullmodem--> linux via PPP?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:56:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen) wrote:
> Anyone know if this is possible? connect a win95 {eek!} box
> to a linux box {yeah!} via nullmodem and PPP ? It must
> be possible right ? after all you can do this via
> two linux box?
>
> please email,thanks
>
Take a look of this article:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue41/smyth.html
Yujin
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From: "Drydd" <someone@special>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Machine won't utilize swap space
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:28:43 -0400
Odd, and you're sure you did: swapon /dev/hd(sd)xy? Where x is the drive
designation and y is the partion #? Swapon doesn't work by itself:)
Wallace Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have PII 233Mhz system (multiple SCSI / IDE drives, 98MB RAM) running
> Slackware kernel 2.0.36. I've allocated a 120MB partition to as swap and
> have it automatically utilized a system bootup via the /etc/fstab entry.
> When my system gets tearing, it can really eat into the system memory.
> Sometimes it freeze or start running slowly because it never utilizes
> the swap space when it's used up the free memory. when I type the "free"
> command, it shows the though memory is used up and still the swap space
> ( which regesters in the output of that same command ) nevers gets used.
> I utilized partitions on other drives, to ensure that the first was not
> bad, to no avail. Is there anything special I need to do get the swap to
> be utilized once physical memory is used up ? I've tried manually
> running the swapon/off commands also to no avail. Has anyone run into
> this ? If so, how did you fix it ? Thanks.
>
> -Wally
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Modem died after a crash
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:35:19 -0400
Hi all, I had a crash a few days ago and since then I can not get
connected. Now when I start wudial, it tells me that /dev/ttyS3 (which
has always been my modem device) is busy. If I start the ezppp in the
debug mode, it tells me there is no dial tone. The modem start to do
something, but it will not make the dialing sound. When I pick up the
phone, there IS a dial tone. Considering that the phone line goes from
jack to modem amns modem to phone, I am not sure that my modem is really
dead. But I don't know anything about hardware. Does this sound like a
hardware problem or could it be a software problem? If the latter, how
can I fix it?
Many thanks,
Ramin Sina
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:55:33 GMT
Richard Aleksandr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi :
> I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
> gnotepad+ is getting there but has bugs and sucks - for example, select
> another edited file tab and when you go back to the previous file your
> cursor has been reset to the beginning. Hey thanks!
> I like theTextEdit shareware editor on Windows A LOT but unfortunately
> as we all know Windows sucks, and now I am back doing Unix development.
> God, do I miss Borland C++ though. Fortunately Inprise is porting C++
> Builder to Linux as we speak. What an excellent development environment
> that is, now I'm spoiled.
> Please do not suggest I use xemacs, xemacs SUCKS. But, I would welcome
> any other tips on a decent editor.
For programming: vi or vim
For letters, posts, resumes, etc: emacs with the X turned off - emacs -nw
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "autoexec.bat"-type service in Linux?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 18:16:54 GMT
Scribbling furiously, [EMAIL PROTECTED] managed to write....
: I have been overcome by the desire to regale all users of my Linux
: system with a welcome text which is to be created by a Perl-script
: and which will change daily.
Depends on what you want by "welcome text"... I personally just throw the
"fortune" command (or program, more appropriately) at the end of my
/etc/skel/.bashrc file, so all users have it in theirs upon creation (but
can edit it out, if they wish)...
--
Big Daddy
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Subject: Re: Getting confused with the virtual terminals
Date: 17 Sep 1999 18:46:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:27:44 -0500, Lori Holder-Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm using RH 6.0 with Gnome, and find that if I go to a new virtual
>terminal, I can't get back into the GUI when I switch back. Terminal
>"2" runs fine (but won't support a new X-windows session), and when I
>switch back to Terminal "1", there's a screen full of messages, but no
>prompt, no windows, and no apparent way to get back into the windows.
>
>Is there some key combination to get back into the windows session
>running on Terminal "1" or am I s.o.l.? So far, the only thing I've
>been able to do is to go back into another virtual terminal, log on as
>root, and shut the system down.
>
The way back to X is ctrl-F7. The virtual terminals are F1 to F6 and
X is F7 - quite logical really as you can only run one X server on the
console.
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The future was never like this!
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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: 17 Sep 1999 20:53:57 +0200
Here is a cite which explains this very well. Actually, Microsoft's
cryptographic software seems to be hacked by NSA.
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/5263/1.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Kirkcaldie) writes:
> >>> Open source programs have to implement real security meaning that even
> >>> though one has access to the code, one cannot use that to circumvent
> >>> the system, because the security is made that way.
>
> ... otherwise, the people who *do* have access to the code at Microsoft
> could breach your security. Do you trust every single employee there who
> might have access to the source code? To whom are *they* accountable?
>
> Matthew.
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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Absurd Linux mentality
Date: 17 Sep 1999 20:55:51 +0200
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (There's actually a comment on the original question...)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Linux users who are proud that they learned what:
> > " cd /home; tar cvpf - * | ( cd /newhome; tar xvpf - ) "
> > means; don't yet realise that knowledge of this arbitrary syntax, will be of
> > no use to them in 10 years time.
>
> Why not? It's been useful already for a lot longer than that.
I started to learn UNIX in 1993 with a book written by Kernighan and
Ritchie in 1969, and it was all right and until now nothing mentioned
in the book turned useless.
>
> And just why not? For that matter, why is knowing English as opposed
> to an abstract syntax tree so universally applicable?
>
Imagine we were not talking but showing each other pull-down
menus. Would this be faster than remember from 100,000 words of human
language?
The "language" concept is one of the most powerful abstractions of
computer interfaces. It relates very well to our way of thinking.
> > is it 'big' or is it 'large'. Extending the principle of working with ideas
> > instead of 'strings of chars'. I don't know and DON'T WANT to know
> > how to mount my B: drive. MdntCmd allows eg. to make a dir for
> > often used scripts; call one script: 'mount B:' and call another:
> > 'unmount B:' . Then in future, easily/visually goto the 'Script' dir
> > visually scroll down to the 'well named script', hit enter - done !
too slow (for me). How many seconds do you need to remove the file
"core" whith this ? - And too weak for more than 50,800 files in my
home (in only 1219 directories).
To remember filenames, the <Tab> key of the bash command line is most
useful.
>
> > Forget the school-boy mentality of being proud of acrobatically
> > remembering the 'correct syntax'. A further example:
> > files have permission: read, write, execute; for owner, ........etc.
> > the command is chmod or modch, or dog-shit or some-thing ?!?
> > Using MdntCmdr I don't need to remember the arbitrary syntax.
> > All is done via menu and results are visually confirmed !!
is well if you don't use this often, don't like much to remember and
don't have too many choices. The right tool for you. Did you try kfm
and tkdesk?
>>
>
> Not at all. mc makes it easy to move a directory tree from one place
> to another (for that matter, I could write an mvtree command quite
> trivially if I cared, and still quite easily if I wanted to make it
> robust), but that is not the entire task.
>
after all, show me how you do your task - by mail. Will you send me a
video? See, we are able to describe _exactly_ what we are doing using
our shell language. Now try to describe me as exactly, say, how to
change the page numbering for a section of a MS Word document to
lowercase roman numerals. Hint: in LaTeX (which is a document
formatting language), it is
\pagenumbering{roman}
- That's all.
Johannes
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From: Troy Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem died after a crash
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:12:06 -0400
locate and remove the lockfile for this modem (look in /var/lock...)
Ramin Sina wrote:
>
> Hi all, I had a crash a few days ago and since then I can not get
> connected. Now when I start wudial, it tells me that /dev/ttyS3 (which
> has always been my modem device) is busy. If I start the ezppp in the
> debug mode, it tells me there is no dial tone. The modem start to do
> something, but it will not make the dialing sound. When I pick up the
> phone, there IS a dial tone. Considering that the phone line goes from
> jack to modem amns modem to phone, I am not sure that my modem is really
> dead. But I don't know anything about hardware. Does this sound like a
> hardware problem or could it be a software problem? If the latter, how
> can I fix it?
>
> Many thanks,
> Ramin Sina
--
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228A Marshall Av. (609) 430-9158 (H)
Princeton, NJ 08540 (609) 243-2941 (O) (PPPL)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.princeton.edu/~tcarter
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO without linux!
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:31:37 GMT
Thanks, I'll try this.
Jayan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > repartitioned it etc - I tried using tomsroot to setup a
> ...
> > It's true, there wasn't any so I did a mkdir /boot and
> > dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/boot.b bs=512 count=1.
>
> No no no boot.b is part of the lilo distribution and it is on
> tomsrtbt, it is just where you don't think to look for it, on
> the floppy itself.
>
> Do something like:
>
> mount /dev/fd0u1722 /fl
> cp /fl/boot.b /boot
>
> -Tom
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel won't change! Please please help
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:01:30 GMT
Have seen this with redhat, does not know why
they do it this way..
The initial lilo.conf has image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 or similar
with the version number etc.. and if you look in the /boot
directory there is vmlinuz linked to vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
After make install, you can see that (for example 2.2.10)
/boot has vmlinuz linked to vmlinuz-2.2.10
When lilo is run, it does not update the right kernel name
because lilo.conf still refers to vmlinuz-2.2.5-15
What you need to do is to change the line
image=vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 to image=vmlinuz, and re-run lilo
This and all your kernel upgrades to come, will be ok!
Then reboot the computer (the one and only reason to
do it other than hardware upgrades :-)
Jayan
Philipp Leser wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 7rlbag$c4d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Procedure:
> > a) cd /usr/src/linux
> > b) make xconfig
> > c) make dep; make clean; make zlilo; make modules; make modules_install
> > d) reboot
>
> Do it by hand:
> make menuconfig
> make dep; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install
>
> Then copy arch/i386/boot/bzImage to your favourite kernelfile place, edit
>/etc/lilo.conf and run lilo.
>
> Bye,
>
> Philipp Leser
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Favorite Editor?
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:02:51 GMT
I think, gnome itself sucks!
KDE is much better.
and the "Simple Text editor" :-) on the KDE panel
is good enough for a notepad fan!
I use vi and am happy with it, though..
It's also a good web-page authoring tool WYSINWYG :-)
((((running for cover, to escape the flames))))
Jayan
Richard Aleksandr wrote:
>
> Hi :
>
> I am looking for a full screen editor for Linux that doesn't suck.
> gnotepad+ is getting there but has bugs and sucks - for example, select
> another edited file tab and when you go back to the previous file your
> cursor has been reset to the beginning. Hey thanks!
>
> I like theTextEdit shareware editor on Windows A LOT but unfortunately
> as we all know Windows sucks, and now I am back doing Unix development.
> God, do I miss Borland C++ though. Fortunately Inprise is porting C++
> Builder to Linux as we speak. What an excellent development environment
> that is, now I'm spoiled.
>
> Please do not suggest I use xemacs, xemacs SUCKS. But, I would welcome
> any other tips on a decent editor.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Richard
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From: Elchonon Edelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,tamu.unix.general
Subject: Re: Loadlin nukes APM BIOS save-to-disk feature
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:14:12 GMT
splunty! wrote:
>
> In article <7roap4$uli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> George R. Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone offer any suggestions? Why should loadlin
> >screw up the APM BIOS in this way?
>
> Get a real computer.
That is not a useful suggestion. If you don't know anything
about the problem, why say anything? Alternatively, tell us
what you consider a "real" computer, and tell us precisely
why and how the computer currently being used by the person
asking for help is not "real". Is it an "imaginary "computer?
Did someone conjure it out of soap bubbles, or is it perhaps
a holographic projection, or possibly a hallucination? Why
don't you enlighten us?
--
Elchonon Edelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IntelliSoft Corp. http://isoft.com/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: "Linux" & "Penguin" copyright ?
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Sep 1999 12:12:00 -0700
data-portal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is the word "Linux" and the Linux "Penguin" copyright ?
> Do I need permission to use both the word Linux and
> Penguin ? Would like to print some T-shirts of it.
Linux is Trademarked to protect against someone doing it themselves
only. Wether or not the penguin is TM or C I don't know...but noone
has complained about its use thus far.
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