Linux-Misc Digest #773, Volume #23 Tue, 7 Mar 00 04:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Best 'Free' Backup Solution??? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Salary? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: PPP needs 2 tries for session (Dale Huckeby)
Re: RH6.1, Rogers@Home- Can't PING Gateway, DNS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Solaris and GUI ? (Scott R. Haven)
Re: one moment hda1 has space, the other hda1 full (Scott R. Haven)
Re: corel Linux does it have plug & play
Re: PPP needs 2 tries for session (Bill Unruh)
ftp problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SuSE6.3 and X-Win32 (Frank)
Re: ?? Ethernet card help.... :o (G. Asch)
Re: rpm restore one file? ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Re: Salary? (Desmond Coughlan)
Re: corel Linux does it have plug & play
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Best 'Free' Backup Solution???
Date: 7 Mar 2000 00:02:07 -0600
In article <yRRw4.451$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brad Melendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>I'd like to find out what people think the best 'Free' backup solution is
>for Linux. Any and all comments welcome. Thanks in advance.
For full backups, any of tar/cpio/dump. Be sure to pick up
the latest version of dump if you use it, but stick to
tar 1.12. Tar is the most portable format, in case you
ever need to extract a file on some other platform.
For mixing full and incrementals, omit cpio. Use the
--listed-incremental option with tar.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 7 Mar 2000 00:04:33 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>So the wages are lower in Europe, but the cost of living is lower, too.
>
>hehe, I live in a boat, my "rent" ranges from $0 to about $400 mo
>for slip fees (I own the boat of course.) But I am a few sigma
>off of the SD in this area :)
Does that include the internet connection?
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby)
Subject: Re: PPP needs 2 tries for session
Date: 6 Mar 2000 22:04:14 -0800
In article <8a1r8l$1rc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <89vps8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby) writes:
>
>] Can anyone tell me what's going on here? I give the command:
>]"ifup ppp0", the phone rings, a connection is apparently established
>]momentarily, then PPP hangs up, dials again, and the second time
>]I get a continuous connection until I terminate it with: "ifdown ppp0".
>
>Go to the Redhat site and update you ppp and kppp.
Thanks. Appreciate the quick help. Maybe you or somebody else could
answer another question. I haven't been able to get sendmail working
properly yet. Can anyone tell me what "no path to host" means. I'm
guessing, maybe wrongly, that sendmail wants me to put mailhost.efn.org
somewhere, but interpreting the config file is like reading Greek with
half the letters missing. I don't know _where_ it wants me to put
that, or indeed if that's what it wants.
Thanks again,
Dale Huckeby
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH6.1, Rogers@Home- Can't PING Gateway, DNS
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 06:40:17 GMT
Assuming your cable modem setup is similar to my DSL one, have you taken
a look at the netmask setting for your ethernet interface? Let me
describe my setup, if yours is the same then perhaps it will help, if
not just skip it!
I have two PCs and a DSL modem. Assigned to me are 8 IP addresses
(allows for future expansion ;-); of which one is the network address
(the lowest numbered), one the broadcast (the highest numbered) and one
the DSL modem (or gateway).
The remaining five are mine for hosts... now, since I have 8 IP
addresses as opposed to the 256 that my class of IP address would
suggest, I need to tell Linux a little more about the network. I did
this using the GUI based linuxconf utility which writes to a file called
ifcfg-eth0 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts in my case (I'm also using
RH6.1 so this should be close to your system's workings too).
In that file, my netmask is set to 255.255.255.248. If you have only 4
IP addresses (i.e. network,broadcast,gateway and a single host) you'll
need 255.255.255.252.
Hope that helps a little...
John...
BTW Win98 should also have these settings so you could check there to
see what numbers you need if you're not sure.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just installed RedHat 6.1 and have tried to get my cable modem to
work
> with it. I've entered in all the TCP/IP setting, and I can ping my PC
IP
> but I can't ping my Gateway. I'm using RH6.1 (as stated above) on an
eTower
> 400 i3 (Celeron 400, 32 Megs RAM, Tarayon modem, NDC ethernet (it's
found
> just fine). It's a barebones install, want to get the net working
first
> before adding anythign else. And so thus I am a linux newbie too. I
altered
> the settings using control-panel in x-term/x windows. I'm using GNOME
> workstation. The service is Rogers@Home in the Waterloo region. I'm
also
> running Win98 on the same HDD, using LILO. Other than that I can't
really
> think of anything else...
>
> Any help please send my way!! I *REALLY* want to get @Home working.
I've
> waded through countless messages on it but I still can't get ping my
> gateway.
>
> jhohertz36 dot yahoo dot com
>
> --
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Before you buy.
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From: Scott R. Haven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Solaris and GUI ?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:30:14 +0000
Miroslav,
Actually Solaris comes with two:
"Openwindows" and CDE. Both are quite usable. With a little work you
could also download and complile the Linux Window Managers also. I know a
lot of Solaris people like to install KDE in particular.
Scott R. Haven
Penguin Magazine
"The newbie friendly online magazine for Linux users."
http://www.PenguinMagazine.com
Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> Wonder if Solaris has a GUI (XFree, KDE, Gnome...)? If not, could a GUI be
> post-installed into Solaris?
>
>
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From: Scott R. Haven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: one moment hda1 has space, the other hda1 full
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:36:27 +0000
Jan,
I'm wondering if it isn't a log file gone crazy. I would guess its
probably one file which is appearing then disappearing.
Try using "du" to figure out which file it is.
Scott R. Haven
Penguin Magazine
"The newbie friendly online magazine for Linux users."
http://www.PenguinMagazine.com
Jan Schaumann wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> So just now the following happened:
> I was minding my own business, being happy with hda1 being 70% full.
> Then I start KLyx, it complains that there is no space on /tmp/ and I
> check and who would have guessed, suddenly hda1 is 100% full!
>
> What gives?
>
> I cleaned up tmp and checked all processes and everyhting and still hda1
> was 100% full.
>
> So I reboot, log in and find it to be 99% full, can't belive it check
> again find it to be 86% full etc. until it's finally where it's supposed
> to be (namely 70%).
> anybody has any ideas what's going on?
>
> TIA,
>
> -Jan
>
> --
> Jan Schaumann
> http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
> http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/chat/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: corel Linux does it have plug & play
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 07:54:19 GMT
On 7 Mar 2000 00:59:50 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, if you haven't heard great things about Corel you haven't been
>listening. :)
>
>Basically, it's Debian slink with various updates (like a newer X
>server), KDE, a file manager written by Corel, and the simplest
>installer around. (It sniffs out most modern PCI or AGP cards... it
>will probably miss most ISA things, but ISA is icky anyway.)
Except that non-PnP ISA sound cards is easier to install than PnP, since
non-PnP cards don't require any isapnp.conf editing.
>Because it's based on slink, adding packages from 'real' slink consists
>of uncommenting a couple lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to let it see
>the regular debian archives, and converting it to potato should be easy
>once potato calms down and is released.
>
>In short, Corel took the good things of Debian (damned fine packaging
>and general technical excellence) and added what most of the Debian
>maintainers have no interest in doing
Because it is not necessary, a pretty installer may be helpfull for pure
newbies but it isn't a parametar for judging an OS; stability and
performances are parametars that really count; that's why we choose Linux.
Debian has a curses installer, so the one may choose between a text and a
curses installation guide, Debian installer isn't based on X which will
just waste resources in a process of installation and configuration. Debian
(and Slackware only) is a distro that doesn't require a single component of
X environment to get a full system up and running which is a preference of
those who have no other requests except to run servers, check their email,
read their favourite newsgroup and on-line newspapers, who spare a disk space
and memory for other things (I am one of them who spare a disk for
spreadshit, ansi, jpeg and mp3 files. There are also many applications for
sound, CD reading and burning that all run in console, and applications and
a language for powerfull text editing regardless of OS that GUI applications
still can not match (sed, awk or gawk etc...) no fancy colorfull processing,
I mean editing text files). Text, curses or X installers have the same point,
they all ask the same questions and do the same things.
>(making a pretty installer is the
>only real crossover point -- Debian doesn't sell cd's, doesn't publish
>books and doesn't put it all in a box with a manual..) but that Corel
>can do well.
There are Debian CDs:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors
and Debian books and manuals with a CD included:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/books
>It's an interesting blend, and Corel seems very upfront about using
>Debian as their base and their commitment to open source (there was just
>a huge infusion of Corel-written code into WINE last week, since Corel's
>using libwine to port their applications now, getting it working is a
>high priority for them :)).
>
>In general, it's Debian for Newbies. :)
Debian's extreme stability is the the result of the most conservative
policy. Debian is a distribution more focused on working correctly than on
adding bells and whistles; every Linux distribution can be downloaded from
internet and used as such free of charge, but Debian has been picked as
the underlying Linux for two commercial distributions: Corel and Storm
Linux, as a tribute for its exellence. Both Corel Linux and Storm Linux
have used the experimental 2.2 kernel release of Debian code named Potato,
at the time of their development, while at the same time Debian's team still
considered adding a 2.2 kernel as a risk. Debian Potato will form the basis
of the official Debian release once the development team considers kernel
2.2x sufficiently stable for the newest release. That's conservatism with a
capital C which positively pays off, from a point of view of demanding
users. Debian is just a base upon Corel was built, it can not be called
Debian anyhow. Despite a package menager and package compatibility the two
distros are significally different.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP needs 2 tries for session
Date: 7 Mar 2000 08:00:57 GMT
In <8a264u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby) writes:
>answer another question. I haven't been able to get sendmail working
>properly yet. Can anyone tell me what "no path to host" means. I'm
It probably means that your routes are not set up properly on your system.
Eg you forgot to put defaultroute into /etc/ppp/options, or you have an
ethernet card and have a default route defined for it (when you should
not have)
man route
route -nr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: ftp problems
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:10:35 GMT
I am connected to the internet via a modem but connected to another
Linux box via a patch cable. I can not ftp files from one machine to
the other (rlogin and telnet work fine), as the ftp looks for the macine
ip addresss via the modem. How can I ftp between my machines (and not
screw my ppp connection which took a while to configure)
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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE6.3 and X-Win32
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 09:22:44 +0000
Hello,
does someone have a clue on this:
I am using SuSE-Linux 6.3 and a Windowsmachine connected over LAN.
Under Windows I have a program called X-Win32 to use the Windows-machine
as an X-Client for Linux. When I start this program I receive only this
message:
XDMCP: Manager unwilling, host unwilling
This must be a message generated by XDM.
!!! Under SuSE Linux 6.2 everything was o.k. So it must be a Problem
within Linux (my configuration)
What I tried already: read man, tkman, SuSE-Help, edited init.rc and all
XDM-stuff.
Question: What has to be configured (how?), what has to be started?
Thanks for all hints, Frank
--
"The move was on to 'Free the Lizard'"
-- Jim Hamerly and Tom Paquin (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and
Associates)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ?? Ethernet card help.... :o
Reply-To: G. Asch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: G. Asch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Mar 2000 03:16:23 -0500
Goofy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
from a terminal window:
man ifconfig
will tell you a lot of clues that will help you figure out what's wrong.
also look at the local HOWTO's you have in /usr/doc/LDP
G> Fairway Fatty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
G> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Im running RH6.1 and at initial install it seemed all hardware
>> loaded in cluding my Nic card without probs. I couldnt seem to get
>> my linux partition to recognize my home network or my network
>> printer so i started messin with the network settings in Gnome
>> interface.......any way now when i reboot during the load ethernet0
>> always "fails" where it used to load fine although icouldnt get it
>> thru to anybody....... where and what is the command to reconfig
>> network adapter where can i find some good help info on cofigging
>> my home lan with linux. this machine is multipartitoned with NT,
>> 98 and Linux and i access the lan/printer with NT or 98 no problem.
>> Another question i'll drop in here - im a rookie (doh!)..... and im
>> running X windows with Gnome.........I d'loaded KDE....... if i
>> install KDE can i still run Gnome...... and is there any
>> difference? Thanks, FF
>>
you can still run gnome applications, though some fancy things like
docking may not work.
I believe KDE is more stable and uses less memory but this is just my
subjective impression.
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm restore one file?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:38:44 +0000
John Reiser wrote:
>
> How can rpm be used to restore one file from a distribution?
>
> Suppose someone :-) removes /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network from a
> RedHat 6.0 system. Without knowing that the file is a symbolic
> link to ../init.c/network, but having the original CD-ROM with
> its RPMS, how can it be restored? [Yes, I did RTFM page.
> I could not find the right combination of function and options.]
Hi,
Assuming you know the package with the link in....
rpm -U --nodeps --force <package>
This will do it - you have to 'force' it otherwise it will complain that
the package is already installed. Possibly you won't need the 'nodeps'
option but it may complain if you miss it.
BTW manipulation of those links is best done with 'chkconfig' - check
the man page
As a sysadmin you should know that the files in /etc/rc.d/rc?.d are
symbolic links and more importantly what the S/K & numbers mean. ;-)
HTH
Regards
Phil Q
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Desmond Coughlan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 7 Mar 2000 08:40:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:31:57 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think it's a myth that wages are higher in the United States, at least
> > when the high cost of living is taken into account.
> What high cost of living?
I believe there was an article on this very subject, in 'Time'; aside
from Windows 98 (which they used to artificially 'bump up' the price
of living in Europe), things are cheaper in Europe.
> Food's cheap. Petrol's cheap. PHone calls are cheap?
> You don't have a HIGH cost of living.
The last time I was in the United States, I struggled to find a hotel in
Boston for less than $100 per night ... OK, so that's probably for tourists,
but it doesn't speak to a 'low' cost of living.
Aside from that, it appears that the cost of real estate in California is
prohibitive ...
> > I presently earn a tad under 500,000 FFr a year, which I think translates
> > into about 73,000 US$ per year. That doesn't seem much, but I live in
> > a relatively large flat, and only pay 4,000 FFr a month (580 US$).
>
> > So the wages are lower in Europe, but the cost of living is lower, too.
> Really. Try living in the UK for a while.
I did; for thirty years ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: corel Linux does it have plug & play
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:50:23 GMT
On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 07:54:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux, as a tribute for its exellence. Both Corel Linux and Storm Linux
>have used the experimental 2.2 kernel release of Debian code named Potato,
>at the time of their development, while at the same time Debian's team still
>considered adding a 2.2 kernel as a risk.
I mean adding 2.2. kernel to a stable distribution
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