Linux-Misc Digest #737, Volume #23                Fri, 3 Mar 00 05:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Odd Modem Problem (Modem not responding) (Not a WinModem!) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please. (Thomas Knop)
  Re: Ipchains for a newbie ("Brian")
  Re: Journaling file system (Ext3 or SGI's) ("Brian")
  Re: Old versions of Slackware ("Brian")
  Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure ! ("Brian")
  Re: fgrep command (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: recursive grep? (Johnny Johanson)
  Linux User Group of Davis, March 7th, "PNG Graphics Format" (William Kendrick)
  Can any one, send to me any PHP3 books/manual/tutorial in PDF,HTML,DOC format..... 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  kernel 2.3.48 irq error (Jayasuthan)
  diskless root mounted nfs permission problems (Laszlo Vecsey)
  [file system] & bad sector (jauming)
  Re: How to edit console font ?
  Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (GarbMan)
  RPM (adam)
  Re: lilo.c (GarbMan)
  Re: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests (David Vrabel)
  Re: EHLO suppression in sendmail 8.9.3 (Villy Kruse)
  problem with cdrecorder and linux 2.2.13... (Thierry BUCCO)
  keyboard mapping (Mattia)
  Re: Error in loading shared libraries (Philipp Maier)
  Re: Multiple CPU (Thomas Hommel)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Odd Modem Problem (Modem not responding) (Not a WinModem!)
Date: 3 Mar 2000 06:11:08 GMT

I've been around Linux off and on since kernel .99.15o, so believe me
when I say that this is _not_ a WinModem problem. :)

I just installed Debian "potato".  Clean install, and few problems,
but I can not make this box talk to my modems.   When I start minicom,
everything I type gets echoed back, but the modem doesn't respond
(other than to echo back what I type).  The echoing is odd-- it 
only echoes the carriage return when I hit <enter>; I can manually
type a new line, but that doesn't help.   The modem doesn't act 
on anything I type; e.g. typing "atdt33333" doesn't make any noise
(and should; at least the external modem I'm _sure_ is set to 
make noise, since it does when hooked up to another machine, and that's
the factory default).

Just so you know I'm not crazy:
        It's not an interrupt problem.  The same thing happens with an
        external and an internal problem, and with seterial /dev/ttyS2 irq 0
        Moreover, I'm setting the interrupt by jumper.

        It's not a setserial problem.  If minicom isn't talking to the
        right port, then nothing gets echoed back.  Only when it's talking
        to the right port do I even see the echoing.

        I did get the external modem to talk back, by telling  it to ignore
        DTR.  However, that caused other problems (most notably, my ppp
        connection getting garbage that caused it to hang up; my ISP is
        a bit draconian :)

        statserial shows DTR always 1, DCD always 0.  I can give more info
        if necessary.

        The modems are a Gateway Telepath ISA (w/ jumpers :) and a USR 28.8
        Fax/Modem.  The box is a gateway P5-120 that I got for $25.  
        
Any ideas?  I'm open to suggestions...

Thanks in advance,

                Me
-- 
Disclaimer:  Anything I said, writ, or thought in my life should not
necessarily be held or thought to imply any view, opinion, or idea
of mine, any organization I have chosen to associate  with, or those
people who choose to associate with me. 

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From: Thomas Knop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,han.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux as Gateway is not working. Help please.
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:58:17 +0100

Am Mit, 01 M�r 2000 hat Thorsten Hilker geschrieben:
>we have a gateway problem ...
>pls help !
>
>okay here are the infos !
>
>the structure is very easy :
>
>
>   Win98                        Win98
>192.168.10.x                 192.168.20.x
>     |                             |
>     |                             |
>     |                             |
>     fuka2                      fuka3
>  eth0 = 192.168.10.1       eth0 = 192.168.20.1
>  eth1 = 192.168.1.10       eth1 = 192.168.1.20
>     |                                 |
>     |                                 |
>   ----------192.168.1.x---------------

You have two posibillities to solve your problem:
1. tell fuka2 where to send packages for the subnet 192.168.20.0/24 -> fuka3
   and tell fuka3 where to send packages for the subnet 192.168.10.0/0 -> fuka2
2. use default routes fuka2 <--> fuka3. this is a bit dangarus, while sending
    packages for example to 1.2.3.4 ==> flip/flop between fuka2 and fuka3

Also you have to check if ipforwarding is enabled on both fuka2 and fuka3:
"cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" *must* give you 1.
To enable ip_forwarding just type "echo 1 >  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward".

Bay the way, if you hope you will see any Client from the 10.x net in the 20.x
net => forget it! In this case you have to setup an wins server (shit!) or to
configure your linux router as ipx-routers and install the ipx network on each
windows client. This is also shit (while windows is shit) but it works :-) 
  
Thomas


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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ipchains for a newbie
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:19:02 -0800

Another way to get your cable modem to cache your NEW MAC address is to turn
the bugger off for a few minutes. When it is powered up again, it sniffs
around and caches the MAC address of the first NIC it finds.

Best regards,

Brian

Ursa_M wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I agree with Greg.  I got the tip here and now have my Linux box, RedHat
6.1
>upgraded from 5.1, working like a champ with my cable modem.  I went to
>www.grc.com to "test" the firewall and it passed with flying colors.  FYI,
>depending on how your cable modem provider sets things up you may need to
>fuss with either your host name, the MAC address on your ethernet card or
>both.  Post here if you have trouble.  The group is very helpful.  The
cable
>people installed the modem first on my Win98 desktop and I later moved it
to
>my Linux box. It appears that the MAC address is cached and I had to trick
it
>to match the one in my Win98 machine to get things to work, using ifconfig.

>Good luck.

>Ursa_M




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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Journaling file system (Ext3 or SGI's)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:31:15 -0800

This is all very interesting - Thanks Guys.

What kind of CPU/hardware overhead is required; does it slow disk access
markedly?

Is the look and feel similiar to a conventional ext2fs?

What kind of considerations are there for HD/controller type - SCSI/IDE?

Best regards,

Brian


Christopher Browne wrote in message ...
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Peter Cherriman would say:
>>>I have no firsthand experience, nor do I know how far along SGI's project
>>>is, but it's XFS, not JFS. I'm aware of FOUR journaling filesystems that
>>>are available in early stages or have been announced for Linux:
>>>
>>>1) ext3fs -- An extension of ext2fs.
>>>2) Reiserfs -- A new open source filesystem.
>>>3) XFS -- SGI's filesystem, now or soon to be released as open source.
>>>4) JFS -- IBM's filesystem, now or soon to be released as open source.
>>>
>>
>>Can someone tell me what a journaling filesystem is, and what use is it
for.
>
>Basic idea: Updates to the filesystem are first placed in a "journal"
>before hitting the "filesystem proper."
>
>The result of this is that if Something Bad Happens, like someone
>pulling the cord out of the wall whilst the updates are taking place,
>the changes-in-progress can be read out of the log and
>reapplied/rolled-back as seems appropriate when the system restarts.
>
>In effect, this means that fsck doesn't have to look at all
>files/inodes/directories; it can restrict itself to what's in the
>journal.
>
>The (possibly apocryphal) story I heard was that some guy at HP had a
>UNIX workstation at home, and a daughter who liked to run around.
>This turned into the bad situation of:
>
>  "Oops!  Jenny knocked the power cord out of the wall."
>
>This naturally led to lots of fsck runs, and occasionally in files
>getting messed up in the process.
>
>Other options could have been to secure the hardware, but it seemed
>like a neat idea to try to create a filesystem that would behave
>better when outages take place.  And so the inspiration for
>journalling was born...
>--
>What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>



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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old versions of Slackware
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:48:25 -0800

Check out http://www.english-bay.com/newuser/newuser.html for an economical
and simple step by step method for getting a small Linux system installed
and connected to your ISP.

Best regards,

Brian

WME wrote in message ...
>Hi,
>I have a 486DX/2 66 with 8M RAM and 45M HDD. A piece of crap basically and
>I'm interested in putting Linux on it. New versions of Slackware seem to
>require more memory than what I have on my system. Is there a way to get an
>old version of Linux?
>
>I'm interested in installing the 'a' and 'n' series of disks. Nothing
fancy.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Ah, by the way the system has Win31 on it and it works fine, so I'm sure
>Linux can **replace** this and still work fine.
>
>



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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Here's why linux programs are so insecure !
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:53:35 -0800

Does your mommy know you are playing with her computer?

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <895ika$rm6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Because you dickheads offer the source code of your programs (!!!)
>
>There is not better present to potential hackers than to offer your source
>code !
>
>Hackers will exploit the bugs to the bone until someone reposts them !!!
>
>http://www.securiteam.com/exploits/archive.html
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: fgrep command
Date: 3 Mar 2000 01:56:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luc Bergeron wrote:
>> How do we use the "fgrep" command in order to search for several
>> patterns at the same time ? I don't understand the man pages !!!

:        -F, --fixed-strings
:              Interpret pattern as a list of fixed strings, sepa-
:              rated by newlines, any of which is to be matched.

$ fgrep 'pattern1
pattern2' filename

> f(ast)grep is supposed to be, well, faster but less powerful
> expression while e(xtended)grep understands the most advanced
> regular expressions.

Hmm, Kernighan & Pike's _UNIX programming environment_ (1984) says

: Why are there three grep programs?  fgrep interprets no meta-characters,
: but can look efficiently for thousands of words in parallel (once
: initialized, its running time is independent of the number of words), and
: thus is used primarily for tasks like bibliographic searches.  The size
: of typical fgrep patters is beyond the capacity of the algorithms used in
: grep and egrep.  The distinction between grep and egrep is harder to
: justify.  grep came much earlier, uses the regular expressions familiar
: from ed, and has tagged regular expressions and a wider set of options.
: egrep interprets more general expressions (except for tagging), and runs
: significantly faster (with speed independent of the pattern), but the
: standard version takes longer to start when the expression is
: complicated.  A newer version exists that starts immediately, so egrep
: and grep could now be combined into a single pattern matching program.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnny Johanson)
Subject: Re: recursive grep?
Date: 3 Mar 2000 07:16:22 GMT

JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> find . -type f -name '*' -print | xargs grep 'stringIwant'
>    Interesting. I have, for a long time, used
>    find . -type f -exec egrep 'stringIwant' {} \; -print

>instead, which has always struck me as being kind of slow. I'll sure try
>the xargs technique; maybe it'll do the job faster.


Yes, most likely. Your variant will start one egrep per file found by find.
xargs will usually only run one grep but in the case of many files it will
start several greps (in sequence) to avoid the "Arg list too long" problem.

There is an alternative syntax which might look a little more
straightforward:

grep 'stringIwant' `find . -type f -name '*' -print`

But this will get "Arg list too long" if too many files match the name.


// Johnny

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  Johnny Johanson            (o o)                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Computer Science and Engineering, Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden

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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux User Group of Davis, March 7th, "PNG Graphics Format"
Crossposted-To: 
sac.general,ucd.general,sacramento.internet,sac.internet,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,alt.graphics,comp.graphics.apps.gimp,comp.graphics.misc
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:26:02 GMT

LUGOD, the Linux Users' Group of Davis, will be holding its next meeting
this Tuesday, March 7th, 2000.

MEETING
=======
  The meeting will be held on:

    Tuesday, March 7th, 2000
    at 6:30pm


  The meeting will be held at:

    Z-World, Inc.
    Room 9
    2900 Spafford Street
    Davis, CA 95616


TOPICS
======
  * PNG - Portable Network Graphics, Greg Roelofs

    PNG is an extensible file format for the lossless, portable,
    well-compressed storage of raster images.  PNG provides a
    PATENT-FREE replacement for the popular GIF format.

    Greg Roelofs is the author of the book "PNG: The Definitive Guide,"
    recently released by O'Reilly and Associates.  He will be travelling
    to Davis to speak at LUGOD during our Tuesday, March 7th meeting.

    He will be discussing the capabilities of PNG (like alpha transparency
    and gamma and color correction), and the status of Linux PNG tools.

    He'll also spend some time talking about his work on the Mozilla
    Open Source web browser project.


  For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
  schedules, etc., visit:

    http://www.lugod.org/meeting/


ABOUT LUGOD
===========
  LUGOD, the Linux Users' Group of Davis, is a non-profit organization
  dedicated to Linux, a free, Unix-like Operating System available for
  a number of computer platforms.

  Meetings are held on the first Tuesday and third Monday of each month
  at the headquarters of Z-World, Inc., at 2900 Spafford Street in Davis.

  Please visit our website for details:

    http://www.lugod.org/


-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can any one, send to me any PHP3 books/manual/tutorial in PDF,HTML,DOC 
format.....
Date: 3 Mar 2000 07:36:28 GMT

Send me to my email....

Help Me !!!! Plzzz


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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:39:04 +0800
From: Jayasuthan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kernel 2.3.48 irq error

Hi,

I compiling kernel 2.3.48 on alpha platform..
why do i recieve error indicate that irq.c error something sorry i did
note down the actual message i'll get it later

thanks.,


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From: Laszlo Vecsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diskless root mounted nfs permission problems
Date: 3 Mar 2000 07:56:26 GMT

I have a root mounted nfs system, 2.2.14 kernel, and the /bin /usr and
other directories are mounted read-only with no_root_squash. 

I can't figure out why I can't switch user from the root account, to a
regular user. I get unable to run /bin/tcsh permission errors. Which don't
make sense because the file is set executable as 'chmod 755' and the
directories likewise the same, even the root partition '/' is NFS mounted
as 755.

Any ideas? What have I overlooked?

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From: jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [file system] & bad sector
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:50:11 GMT

 which filesystem for linux
will auto mark bad sector
when it fails to write?

thx in advanced!:)
plz also reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Before you buy.

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Subject: Re: How to edit console font ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 07:58:03 GMT

In article <89la19$58q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mihaly Gyulai  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>With what programs can I edit console fonts ?

My favorite is "fonter", which is available at:

ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/misc/fonter-1.7.tar.gz

William Adderholdt

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From: GarbMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:25:37 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
> "Download", they are for Windows  or Apple.
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

In addition to the progs mentioned in the other replies:

The newer gnome-applet packages come with the screenshooter applet if
you're into GNOME. Or older versions of the applet alone (if you don't
want to upgrade your gnome-core/gnome-applets) are available here:
http://www.tomgilbert.freeserve.co.uk/screenshooter.html

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From: adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 08:30:04 GMT

In LINUX, what are these RPM files?  and is there a "WINDOWS EXPLORER" 
type way to brows through the linux files? (if you know what I mean.)
   Adam
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: GarbMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo.c
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:41:02 -0600

Allan Adler wrote:
> 
> Where can I find the source code for lilo?

ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/linux/local/lilo/

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From: David Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:57 +0000

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Celis wrote:

> I am receiveing this error messagecould anyone give me any pointers or a
> place
> where I can find information on how to solve this problem.
> I have checked in pppdocs and can find nothing mentioned about this.
> 
> LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

Read the PPP-HOWTO (or the PPP manuals) to find out how to increase the
time taken to timeout.

David Vrabel


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: EHLO suppression in sendmail 8.9.3
Date: 3 Mar 2000 08:38:09 GMT

On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:38:26 -0500, Omid Saadatfard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>Does anybody know how is it possible to disbale EHLO in sendmail 8.9.3
>


Does anyone know a good reason to do so.



Villy

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From: Thierry BUCCO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with cdrecorder and linux 2.2.13...
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 01:35:10 -0800

Hi,

Is there anybody has got this problem ?

1- I write a session in a cdrom with cdrecord (cdrom still open)
2- I mount the cd and i see the session OK
3- I umount the cd
4- I write another session into cdrom (cdrom still open)
5- I mount the cd and i don't see the new session, only the first...

i must open the tray an close the tray to see the new session.
I guess the TOC is not read refresh after first session, is there a way to
see the new session without open the tray ?


With a 2.0.36 kernel it work fine, but now with the new 2.2.13 kernel, i
have this problem.

my Linux Box contains :

Linux 2.2.13 RedHat 5.2
Adaptec SCSI Card 2904
Yamaha 8424 cdrecorder

Thanks a lot for your help.

Thierry - FRANCE


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From: Mattia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: keyboard mapping
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:34:27 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hallo,

I've just installed RedHad Linux on my PC. I've newer configured a Linux
(or a UNIX) OS before. So I'm sorry if I'm sending a trivial question...

How can I map the Keyboard? At the moment Linux things that I'm using an
english keyboard. But it isn't, it is a Swiss-German one. With "Gnome"
things are a little bit better, but some keys also are false.

Thanks!

Mattia



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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error in loading shared libraries
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:38:19 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dances With Crows wrote:
...
> This was a RedHat package you installed... the "6.1" gives it away.  RH
> and SuSE seem to have different names for the same libs(!) for reasons I
> only barely begin to comprehend.  So, try this:
> 
> # cd /usr/lib
> # ln -s libstdc++.so.2.9 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
...

Yes, that did the trick!! 

Thanksalot, Philipp
-- 

Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:

http://www.philipp-maier.de

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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple CPU
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:39:07 +0100

Every newer kernel can use mutiple CPUs if you have compiled it it with
SMP support enabled.


Jose Gerstl schrieb:
> 
> Is there any linux kernel that can take advantage of motherboards with
> several CPU (for instance two).
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

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