Linux-Misc Digest #741, Volume #23 Fri, 3 Mar 00 17:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Printing mailing labels? (Bob van der Poel)
Re: WordPerfect RPMs? ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: desktop customisation (Nicolas DE METZ-NOBLAT)
Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question) (cLIeNUX user)
apache name based virtual server ~50% (David Erdman)
diskless root mounted nfs permission problems (Laszlo Vecsey)
RH 61 startx hangs on gnome-session only as root (jgiles)
Re: Problems with XCDRoast (Thomas Zajic)
Re: keyboard mapping (Luc Bergeron)
monitors (Ted Wager)
Re: Odd Modem Problem (Modem not responding) (Not a WinModem!) (John Hasler)
Re: What is the best way to mirror my Web/mail/FTP server ("John Lyons")
Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! (Dirk Mueller)
Re: One steep forward ... ("Captain Tylor")
Re: Advice on PartitionMagic on all-Linux system? (David C.)
Re: internet (Luc Bergeron)
Hosts w/ ISP connection (Luc Bergeron)
Help: Kernel panic on boot ("Chris")
Re: Two screens at the same time (thomas park)
Re: Journaling file system (Ext3 or SGI's) (Bruce Stephens)
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From: Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing mailing labels?
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:08:53 +0000
Paul Winkler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> please excuse the crosspost, and notice that followups are to
> comp.os.linux.misc
>
> I'm trying to find ANY software that runs on linux that can be used
> to format addresses so they can be printed on a sheet of mailing
> labels such as those by Avery and other companies.
>
> The addresses are currently in a simple tab-separated ASCII
> database. I can write scripts to massage them into various forms,
> that's no trouble. I have previously used a perl script and enscript
> to print the addresses on postcards, but now I need to do mailing
> labels and can't figure out how to get enscript to control the
> layout precisely enough for that.
>
> A dejanews search turned up only a suggestion to try WordPerfect. I
> did, but it crashes EVERY time I try to follow the help instructions
> on doing this job. :(
>
> I would think this is possible with gnu enscript or possibly groff
> or latex or something, but the respective man pages don't give an
> example to solve this problem, or even tell me if it is solve-able.
>
> --
> ................ paul winkler ..................
> slinkP arts: music, sound, illustration, design, etc.
> A member of ARMS -----> http://www.reacharms.com
> or http://www.mp3.com/arms or http://www.amp3.net/arms
> personal page ----> http://www.ulster.net/~abigoo
Try latex with envlab.sty. Works fine for me.
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect RPMs?
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:09:53 +0100
> Rick wrote:
>
> Are there any RPMs for WordPerfect 8 ?
> --
> To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
SuSE 6.3 includes a rpm of WP8.
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Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/>
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From: Nicolas DE METZ-NOBLAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: desktop customisation
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:49:19 +0100
A very good example on how to open a security hole on your system:
Netscape user may then just ask to goto: 'telnet://localhost' (or any
other valid host)
This opens an xterm with telnet - which can be escaped using 'Ctrl+]'
And as answer to the prompt, user may answer just '!'
Result: he gets a standard shell with normal privileges...
Nicolas
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 20:58:03 GMT, carl
> <<vBAv4.12728$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Hi i am trying to configure the desktop for a group of users so that only
> >netscape will launch and be available after they log in , i ve tried
> >menueditor in kde to do this, but i find it hard to sort out, im running the
> >latest red hat, anybody with any ideas the best way of accomplishing what i
> >wish to do , and the most simplest
>
> Replace all their ~/.xinitrc files with this:
> #!/bin/bash
> exec /usr/bin/netscape
>
> Nothing to it. These users will have netscape launch automatically upon
> login, and when netscape exits, they'll get logged out. Oh yes, make sure
> you chown and chmod those .xinitrc files so that they can't write to them.
> Wouldn't want them slipping though security, would we? Though letting
> users execute netscape on a Linux box is a recipe for trouble when it
> gobbles up all the memory...
>
> --
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> There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
> But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cLIeNUX user)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which distribution is better (Newbie question)
Date: 3 Mar 2000 03:34:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>In article <89h33o$14l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Bal�zs J�vor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm not new to computers though, so I'm don't necessarily look for the
>> distribution which is
>> the easiest to install or maintain.
>
>Sounds like Slackware/Debian
>
>>but I've also read that because of the different
>> distributions use different
>> directory structures it may still be problematic.
>There is a Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (forgive the spelling, I have a French
>version). If you want to move your files around easily, you'd prefer a
>down-to-earth distro like one of the above
>
>> And of course there are dozens of other distributions left.
>
It's not differences in directory structure that make different distros
less than 100% interoperable. Except in the case of mine, cLIeNUX.
cLIeNUX has what I call the Dotted Standard File Hierarchy, and this is my
root directory, "/" ....
:; cLIeNUX0 /dev/tty8 r 21:04:03 /source/core/pico
:;d -F /
ABOUT boot/ floppy/ log/ subroutine/
ABOUT.kernel command/ guest/ mounts/ suite/
CD/ configure/ help/ owner/ temp/
COPYING dev/ kernel/ source/
:; cLIeNUX0 /dev/tty8 r 21:04:04 /source/core/pico
:;
In cLIeNUX I've chosen self-expanatory over traditional. I'm criticized
for trying to make something that's "not unix". I think rigidly limiting
people by directory names trivializes and superficializes unix. Besides
which, unix tradition is to be non-traditional.
cLIeNUX is small, hard to install, uses the old libc, doesn't suport
new hardware worth a damn because I create cLIeNUX on old hardware,
by choice I'll have you know, and I hope eventually to make some
money off cLIeNUX from a membership model many people find less than
altruistic.
However, I am of the opinion that you will learn more unix fundamentals in
less time in cLIeNUX than by *any* other means, short of taking a job at
Bell Labs. It starts with my install stuff, where my install floppies have
docs, and explain whats going on, so you're in control of what you are
responsible for ASAP, and I'm not, ASAP. What other distro has "man
programming"? In html?
Rick Hohensee
ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX
or a mirror
>Which are all rather alike, once installed. I think that if you like to fool
>around in the system, you're helped with plain and easy to find configuration
>files. The more sophisticated installation/configuration uitilities (though I
>have experience with Suse only) are just one extra layer in the system.
>
>cheers
>
>Arman
>
>
>
>
>
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From: David Erdman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apache name based virtual server ~50%
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:30:13 GMT
according to apache documentation, i have set up the following on my rh
system in httpd.conf.
ServerAdmin root@localhost
ServerRoot /etc/httpd
ServerName localhost
my document root up here is /home/httpd/html
**here is my virtual host section. i have 2 domain names, with one static
ip**
NameVirtualHost 111.22.33.44 (this is My internet IP)
<VirtualHost 111.22.33.44>
ServerName www.domain.com
DocumentRoot /home/httpd/www/domain
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost 111.22.33.44>
ServerName www.otherdomain.org
DocumentRoot /home/httpd/otherdomain
</VirtualHost>
is there anything inherently wrong with this setup?> for some reason when
i enter both urls, only the www.domain.com one comes up. i know
permissions are correct, w/files and dir.
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From: Laszlo Vecsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diskless root mounted nfs permission problems
Date: 3 Mar 2000 19:37:38 GMT
Just a follow up to my previous post, I discovered the problem was I
didn't have the /lib directory mounted again with the original systems
full set of libraries. I was using a NFS root partition with a minimal set
of libs (missing some of the nss ones, for the nsswitch among others) --
and anyhow, its fine now. Thanks to usenet. ;)
lv.
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From: jgiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 61 startx hangs on gnome-session only as root
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:31:33 GMT
this problem only happens when running startx as root.
all other users are fine.
after running startx as root, the screen turns grey,
the cursor turns to an X and it hangs for 15-20 minutes
eventually completes successfully... i can see that
/usr/bin/gnome-session is starting the process that
actually hangs for the 15-20 minutes, gnome-login-session.
this process is clearly the problem and is waiting way
to long for whatever it is looking for...
i've looked at www.gnome.org and there's nothing.
has anyone else seen this behavior ???
???? and more ??? =P
jgiles
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Problems with XCDRoast
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:42:10 GMT
On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 04:20:49 GMT, Henricus wrote:
> If you don't care about using a GUI, I can tell you how I do it.
Is it just me, or is your solution a bit clumsy? Let's see ...
> First, I use a ripper (Grip) to put the CD tracks onto my hard drive as
> wav files.
> Second, I rename the files to track##.wav, where ## is the track number.
Why not tell grip to use "track%t.wav" as a rip file format string?
Can be set from the GUI, or via "ripfileformat" in ~/.grip. No file
renaming needed at all. See 'man grip' for details on the formatting
strings.
> Third, depending on the number of tracks I run the following commands at
> the same time in a terminal. This converts them back to cdr format.
First, this isn't necessary at all. Cdrecord knows how to handle .wav
files, no need to convert them. Second, if, for some reason, you really
need to convert them, you'd probably be better off with one single line:
for file in track*.wav ; do sox $file `basename $file .wav`.cdr ; done
Note that I'm using backticks (`) here, the key left of "1" on a US
keyboard (and the key right of "�" on a German one).
> Fourth, I burn them onto a CD using the following commands. Again I run
> these commands at the same time.
> [ ... ]
What about 'cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio track*.cdr' instead
(or 'track*.wav' if you skip the unnecessary conversion)?
> That is it. It sounds like a lot of trouble, but it isn't. I keep the
> commands in a text file that I cut and paste when I am ready to use
> them.
This sure _is_ a lot of trouble. You could save yourself a lot of copying
and pasting that way. ;-)
HTH,
Thomas
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: keyboard mapping
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 14:58:29 -0500
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Mattia wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I've just installed RedHad Linux on my PC. I've newer configured a Linux
> (or a UNIX) OS before. So I'm sorry if I'm sending a trivial question...
>
> How can I map the Keyboard? At the moment Linux things that I'm using an
> english keyboard. But it isn't, it is a Swiss-German one. With "Gnome"
> things are a little bit better, but some keys also are false.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mattia
To configure you keyboard mapping, you have to change you
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard file. In this file you write this :
KEYTABLE=mapfile
exemple :
KEYTABLE=/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cf.kmap.gz
when you comp will boot, it will load this mapping config
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Mattia wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hallo,
<p>I've just installed RedHad Linux on my PC. I've newer configured a Linux
<br>(or a UNIX) OS before. So I'm sorry if I'm sending a trivial question...
<p>How can I map the Keyboard? At the moment Linux things that I'm using
an
<br>english keyboard. But it isn't, it is a Swiss-German one. With "Gnome"
<br>things are a little bit better, but some keys also are false.
<p>Thanks!
<p>Mattia</blockquote>
To configure you keyboard mapping, you have to change you /etc/sysconfig/keyboard
file. In this file you write this :
<p>KEYTABLE=<i>mapfile</i>
<p>exemple :
<br>KEYTABLE=/usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/cf.kmap.gz
<p>when you comp will boot, it will load this mapping config
<br>
<br>
<br> </html>
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From: Ted Wager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: monitors
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:19:39 +0000
Hi
I am about to buy a new monitor and thinking of a Belinea..
Has anyone any experience of these monitors either good or bad as I cannot see
any reviews...Any other recommmendations appreciated..
Please cc a copy direct as I do not se the list as often as I would like..
Regards
Ted Wager
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Odd Modem Problem (Modem not responding) (Not a WinModem!)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:39:14 GMT
Me writes:
> Is there some reason you think this is debian related?
Your article lead me to believe that you thought it was a software problem.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "John Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: What is the best way to mirror my Web/mail/FTP server
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 20:54:37 GMT
> I have a Web/mail/FTP server that I would like to mirror for redundancy.
> What is the best way to do this? It doesn't have to be mirrored real-time
> but I want it to be updated every 24 hours minimum.
You could always consider combining this with a director. Cisco do one and
about two other comapnies. They'll take a request for a web site and direct
it to a particular web server so you can have two servers set up mirroring
each other and the director can be set to send requests to each server in
turn to balance the load or to us one if the other is ever down or not
responding.
John
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From: Dirk Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 21:44:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JCA wrote:
>
> Never underestimate Microsoft: They always manage come up with
> something more ludicrous than the previous time.
You might have cited our beloved god Douglas Adams? ;o)
> > Microsoft has been working hard to develop a new technology that will
> > save disk space!! Links to files!!!! Incredible? No!
> >
> > Read it detailed at:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp
Microsoft can save the same amount of disk space again inventing the
link to links ( to links to links to links .. )
Dirk
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From: "Captain Tylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: One steep forward ...
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:47:28 -0500
Here's a Web site regarding a 3D Window Manager currently under development
called "3Dwm".
http://www.medialab.chalmers.se/projects/3dwm/index.html
kkdlavak wrote in message <89mtq5$3pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Well,
>everybody is running around "windows" in a "desktop"
>
>What about a new working environment or workspace really
>spatial and special ?
>
>I have read about a 'top' like utility that manages process at the DOOM
>style, in a 3D environment.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice on PartitionMagic on all-Linux system?
Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:51:37 -0500
Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> You don't need PM to create the initial system, but it is extremely
> helpful if you want to resize disk partitions without doing a
> dump/load. My PM has more than paid for itself for that one feature.
Can the current version (5.0) resize an ext2fs partition?
The last time I looked, PM could only move ext2fs partitions, but
couldn't resize them. If this feature has been added, I'm quite
interested.
-- David
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: internet
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:52:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ok i just installed linux-mandrake 6.5......this is my first time to use
> linux.....well i finally got kppp setup so i can log into my isp, but when
> i get logged in and open netscape it does not do anything.........i will
> try to access a web page and it just sits there saying connecting to
> host......whats the problem.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
you have to enter the DNS addresses of your ISP in the Kppp
configuration !
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hosts w/ ISP connection
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:55:31 -0500
Hello !
I'm wondering what I should set in Linuxconf for the host settings
and all this stuff if I have a simple computer that I sometimes connect
to my ISP... ? the ISP domain name ?
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help: Kernel panic on boot
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:55:10 -0500
Ok this started when I added more memory and wanted to change my swap
partition.
I went into fdisk and added a second larger partition.. hda12, then changed
it to be swap, i then deleted the old partition hda5.. After I deleted 5 I
noticed all the partitions shuffled down in numbers so I was left with
1,2,5-11 not 12.. interesting I thought.
Anyway, as usual when I wrote the table to disk it said the disk was busy
and I should reboot.. so I did.. Now when it tries to come up I get:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing used kernel memory: 64k freed
Warning: unable to open an initial console
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel
So what I'm thinking is that as the hda#'s shuffled the system can't now
work out which is the root drive which was hda8 and now of course is hda7..
I don't know what 'Try passing init= option to kernel" means or how to do
it..
I tried booting from my recovery disk but it asks for a root disk, and I
don't seem to have one of those, but am not sure what it is..
Am I screwed? Is it time to re-install or is there something obvious that I
can do to interupt the boot process and correct whatever is wrong.. any help
would be appreciated.
Chris
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From: thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two screens at the same time
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:56:21 -0500
AFAIK, there are 2 X servers which support dual-head displays. Neither
are free.
Accelerated-X, http://www.xig.com
Metro-X, http://www.metrolink.com
I've never used dual-head functionality in either, but I believe that
A-X is much more restrictive on the types and combinations of video
cards allowed. You'll definitely want to check their documentation.
thomas
Rafael wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have read all lot of docs, but I could not find info how
> to setup two graphic cards in Linux. Does Linux Support displaying
> desktops on two screens if you have instaled twp graphic cards.
> I find it very useful in Windows98, but I realy want to have possibility
>
> live without Microsoft. Please help me.
>
> Rafael
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Journaling file system (Ext3 or SGI's)
Date: 03 Mar 2000 22:01:11 +0000
"Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is all very interesting - Thanks Guys.
>
> What kind of CPU/hardware overhead is required; does it slow disk access
> markedly?
For reiserfs (I don't know what the projections are for the others, or
how ext3 might perform now or in the future), it seems pretty
competitive with ext2.
The journal uses 32M, I think, but for many uses you'll regain that
because of the extra packing it does for small files.
There are benchmarks suggesting that reiserfs is faster for some kinds
of usage. I must admit I don't really notice it much (although
deleting can sometimes be much quicker than ext2).
> Is the look and feel similiar to a conventional ext2fs?
Identical, except that just at the moment, it appears to be reporting
the sizes of directories idiosyncratically. It's probably not worth
worrying about, however.
One thing that *is* important is that you'll need to be a bit careful
with LILO and reiserfs: it makes sense to have /boot as ext2 just at
the moment, because LILO doesn't know about reiserfs (although it may
do in the near future).
> What kind of considerations are there for HD/controller type - SCSI/IDE?
None. Some kinds of RAID are currently flaky because of unresolved
buffer issues with the kernel. SCSI or IDE will work fine, however.
reiserfs is simply a different filesystem: you configure it in the
kernel, run mkreiserfs on the partition (rather than mke2fs), and
mount it as you would ext2.
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