Linux-Misc Digest #811, Volume #23 Sat, 11 Mar 00 01:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: My system has been cracked -- Help! ("A Favored Son")
Re: Has anyone tried Mandrake on 486? ("A Favored Son")
Re: Linux for HP (Vivek Gupta)
Re: graphical ftp client? ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
Re: NT Server, router => Linux connectivity (Bob Hauck)
tcl/tk irc client works for root only (Subba Rao)
Re: Linux for HP (Vivek Gupta)
Re: How to find out versions of lib? (Dances With Crows)
Re: LILO und Win200 ? (John in SD)
help:Need a good editor... (Cevat Ustun)
Re: Nameserver not working (Dances With Crows)
Re: Forwarding mail message to program? (Claus Assmann)
Re: Dual Booting with NT (GM)
Re: NIS+ (Neil W Rickert)
Re: Where does Kpackage install program files (The Scotts)
Re: how do I insert a background image in x window (Robert Heller)
Re: How to re-create a boot disk (Robert Heller)
Re: help:Need a good editor... (Hal Burgiss)
Re: help:Need a good editor... (Herb Stein)
Re: best way to make BACKUP image of hard drive (Yan Seiner)
Installing Apps (Jonathan Allen)
Re: Dual Booting with NT ("Steve Cowles")
Re: Window manager hell (Ben Rosenberg)
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From: "A Favored Son" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My system has been cracked -- Help!
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:19:06 -0800
Bit Twister wrote in message ...
>You might want to goto
>http://linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html
>to get a good set of ipchains firewall rules.
>It might keep more hackers out of the system.
>
>
whoa. dude, this rocks.
Thank you thank you thank you.
:-)
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From: "A Favored Son" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Mandrake on 486?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:32:57 -0800
I use hedwig, and it works fine. The gui is a bit, uh,
surreal with only 16mb of ram, but in terminal mode,
it gits along pretty well.
I use it as a firewall/ipmasq macheen.
Go for it. Cost vs. Benefit a big plus.
The hardest part was installing it without a cdrom.
I did an NFS install.
A F S
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From: Vivek Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux for HP
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:26:09 -0800
Hi,
I saw some articles 8-9 months ago about Linux for PA-RISC arch. It is
there and built by HP. I am not sure why they are not saying this in
Public. They might be afraid of M$. They might tell this in PUblic after
the outcome of M$ anti trust trial.
Search on the net. You might find it. If I will come across then I will
post in this or comp.os.linux.hardware newsgroup.
Vivek
Matthias Honal wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have two old HP-machines but no operation system for them. Does any
> one know, wether there is a LINUX that works together with HP machines.
> Or where eles can I get a (free) operating system for them except from
> (the very expensive) HP-UX?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Matthias
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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: graphical ftp client?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:40:58 +0400
http://www.littleigloo.com
Ivan Martinez wrote:
> Hello, I couldn't install kftp. Do you recomend any other graphical ftp
> client?. Thank you.
> --
> Ivan Martinez (Rodriguez)
> Bch in Computer Science - MSc student
> http://www.student.dtu.dk/~u990873
> "Got fabes?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: NT Server, router => Linux connectivity
Date: 11 Mar 2000 03:40:10 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:46:23 +0000 (GMT), Simon E. John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I will be networking my Linux box to this - but how to I get it to use the
>leased line - do I configure the NT box as a gateway -
No, you set the "proper" router (whatever that is) as the gateway. How
you do email depends on what email server is going to be on NT. If it is
a pop3 server or exchange with pop3 enabled then it'll work just like an
ISP mail server.
>but how do I get to the Windoze box's files from the Linux box?
man smbmount
man smbclient
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.bobh.org/
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:40:54 -0500
From: Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tcl/tk irc client works for root only
Reply-To: Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I have been using Zircon IRC client on my system for a while. It is a Tcl/Tk
application. This works fine, when I invoke it as root, but for any other user
it gives the following error message:
(1)user1@myhost:~ => zircon
Error in startup script: can't find package interp 8.0
while executing
"package require -exact interp [info tclversion]"
(file "/usr/local/bin/zircon" line 24)
The Tcl/Tk version on my system is version 8.0
Can someone please let me know how to fix the above error? I want other users
to be able to use this excellent app.
Thank you in advance.
Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
=> Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <=
http://www.smcinnovations.com
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From: Vivek Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux for HP
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:36:25 -0800
Go to www.hp.com
Click on search.
click on advance search.
In first box type Linux
In second box type RISC
Click on submit.
First article says about HP's efforts and You may search the rest about
installing Linux on HP machine.
Good Luck,
Vivek
PS: If you are successful then tell me and post the article in this news
group about it...
Matthias Honal wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have two old HP-machines but no operation system for them. Does any
> one know, wether there is a LINUX that works together with HP machines.
> Or where eles can I get a (free) operating system for them except from
> (the very expensive) HP-UX?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Matthias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How to find out versions of lib?
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:46:58 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:47:52 GMT, Pjtg0707
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>How do I find out what versions of lib (libc5 etc..) do I have for
>binaries? I am running RH 6.0.
RedHat 6.0 shipped with glibc2.1 as its main library, so in general, you'd
say your system was a "glibc2.1" system. If you have a question about
a specific binary, then the ldd command is your friend:
$ ldd x-povray
libpng.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4001e000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4003b000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40058000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40102000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
so x-povray is linked with libc.so.6 and libm.so.6 (glibc2.1 in this case)
and the PNG and X11 libraries. ldd won't follow symbolic links, so if
/lib/libc.so.6 is a symlink (which it is in my system) then you may have
to manually trace it with ls -l:
$ ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
/lib/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.1.2.so
so this is glibc2.1.2. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO und Win200 ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:57:35 GMT
Yes, LILO is able to dual boot Linux and Win2000.
I regularly triple boot:
/dev/hda (0x80) (27Gb drive)
/dev/hda1 win2000 boot partition ***
/dev/hda5 linux swap partition
/dev/hda6 linux 2.2.5 kernel ***
/dev/hdb (0x81) win2000 partitions
/dev/hdc (0x82) (17Gb drive)
/dev/hdc1 win2000 partition
/dev/hdc5 linux 2.2.12 kernel ***
LILO version 21.3 is used to avoid the need for /boot to lie below the
1024 cylinder limit on the 27Gb & 17Gb disks. If you can place /boot
below cylinder 1024, the LILO version 20 or 21 should work fine.
--John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lilo 21.3 was announced 8-Mar-00 on comp.os.linux.announce.
It is also at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu /pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:42:07 +0100, Benjamin Henne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hallo
>habe soeben versucht auf Meinem PC (Win2000 und Linux) neu zu
>konfiguriere.
>Doch wenn ich ich Lilo installieren lasse auf Diskette und er zum
>Boot-Eintrag von Win2000 kommt, serviert Lilo als Ausgabe:
>Partitionseintrag nciht gefunden.
>Kann LiLo Win2000 nicht booten ?!?
>
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From: Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help:Need a good editor...
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:59:51 GMT
I'm looking for an editor that can cut and paste columns, does
anyone have any suggestions?
Cev.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Nameserver not working
Date: 10 Mar 2000 23:02:45 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:55:36 GMT, John Hasler
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Matt G writes:
>> Without the "search" line, it won't work very well if at all.
>
>Without the "search" line, it will work quite well. The 'search' directive
>merely tells the resolver what to do with hostnames that might not be fully
>qualified. It saves your users some typing if they frequently access hosts
>not in your domain.
All right, I was led astray by an experience a few months back... in
response to unexplained network screwiness, one thing I tried was wiping
resolv.conf, re-creating it and forgetting to put the search line in.
Still didn't work. Put the search line in; things began working. Later
traced that particular problem to the ISP's DNS boxes becoming
unresponsive for 5-10 minutes at a time at random times. They're working
on it.[0] The "search" line paranoia stayed in--voodoo config file
editing, I guess. Excuse me, gotta take the chakra readings of the main HD
to make sure it's balanced properly :-)
[0] Ha!
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Forwarding mail message to program?
From: Claus Assmann <ca+sendmail(-no-copies-please)@mine.informatik.uni-kiel.de>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:02:48 -0800
root wrote:
> account... aliased to |/etc/smrsh/myscript.sh
> |/etc/smrsh/myscript.sh... Connecting to prog...
> |/etc/smrsh/myscript.sh... unknown mailer error 1
> /root/dead.letter... Saved message in /root/dead.letter
http://www.sendmail.org/faq/
* 4.13 What does "unknown mailer error 1" mean?
Use a valid exit status for your program: 0 for ok, error codes
can be found in sysexits.h.
--
If you feel the urgent wish to send me a courtesy copy of a Usenet
posting, then make sure it's recognizable as such!
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From: GM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Booting with NT
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:08:24 -0500
John Harvey wrote:
> Hello,
> I was hoping someone could tell me how to modify the boot.ini file in NT
> to allow me to use the NT boot loader with Linux RedHat 6. I know I could
> install LILO and have it boot NT, but this is not the solution I want. (I
> run an office of MS wussies, and it will unnerve them to see LILO...)
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> John Harvey
Hi,
In my boot.ini file, I have the following additional entries making references
to Linux:
[boot loader]
defaiult=c:\bootsect.lnx
[operating systems]
c:\bootsect.lnx="Linux"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT ...
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT ... (VGA mode)
Glen
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From: Neil W Rickert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: NIS+
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:15:40 -0600
TomC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi, I have more than 5 redhat server in my company and every time a new
>staff come then I need to add account in each server. It is very
>inconvenience. I think that can I add a solaris NIS+ server and all the
>linux clients join to it and share the information. Can I? Any HOWTO
>will talk about this?
>Thanks
You could also designate one of your servers the primary, and tell
your users to only change passwords there. Use 'rdist' to propogate
changes to the other systems.
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:18:23 +0000
From: The Scotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where does Kpackage install program files
In kpackage there is a menu option under the pulldown menu "File" for
finding installed packages. Sorry can't remember the exact name and my
security is set so non-root accounts can't run kpackage, etc. When the
package is found, on the right side of the screen where the package
summary is given, click on the "files" tab just above the summary. This
will show where all the files are loaded. Kpackage does not determine
default directories. The rpm package developer identifies defaults and
kpackage carries out those instructions.
Bob Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> What's the default directory that kpackage installs application files in?
> I installed a package and the RPM database says it's installed, but I
> can't find it anywhere...
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do I insert a background image in x window
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:16:23 GMT
Andrew Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:30:22 GMT, wrote :
AW> How do I insert a background image in Red Hat 6.0. I can change the color
AW> by usng "xsetroot" just to change the color, how about the background
AW> image? Please help.
There are several programs that can do this. The most commonly used
one is xloadimage. Read the man pages carefully. Then insert this into
your X11 startup. For xinit, you put it in your /.xinitrc file. Here
is a piece of my X11 startup (I use xinit/startx with fvwm in MWM mode
and don't use a silly desktop manager):
sauron.deepsoft.com% more .xinitrc.csh
#!/bin/csh
# startup file for X
source .envs
setenv LOGGED_IN 1
xrdb .Xdefaults
set zoom = `echo 'scale=5\n1024/768' | bc`
set Yoffset = `echo "768-($zoom*512)"|bc`
set Yoffset = `echo "$Yoffset:r+1"|bc`
set zoom = `echo "$zoom*100"|bc`
set zoom = $zoom:r
xloadimage -quiet -border grey -background grey -onroot \
-at 1,$Yoffset -zoom $zoom \
RRImgs/dl270.jpeg
This plops a file in RRImgs named dl270.jpeg onto my desktop. The
arithmetic is intended to get the image to scale properly and be
positioned on my screen properly. The image has a different aspect
ratio than my screen and I don't want xloadimage to scale it to fit as
this will distort the image. The above leaves a grey band above the
image, which is mostly covered by my MWM-style IconBox (FvwmIconBox).
AW>
AW> Thanks in advance
AW>
AW> --
AW> Posted via CNET Help.com
AW> http://www.help.com/
AW>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to re-create a boot disk
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:16:41 GMT
Tony Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 11 Mar 2000 01:38:07 GMT, wrote :
TW> Here's my story. I have to disks, the first disk has windows installed
TW> and
TW> the second disk has linux installed. I'm running Mandrake 6.0. When I
TW>
TW> installed Mandrake, LILO had a problem. So I re-installed windows into
TW> the Master boot record and booted to linux with the boot disk. Now my
TW> boot disk is screwed up and I can't get back to Linux.
TW> I tried downloading the boot.img from Red Hat, but it just tries to do a
TW>
TW> re-install of the OS.
At the boot.img's 'Boot: ' prompt, try entering:
linux root=/dev/hdb1
Assumes that /dev/hdb1 is the partition where your Linux root lives --
adjust this as needed.
TW>
TW>
TW> Any help would be appreciated.
TW>
TW>
TW> Thanks,
TW> Tony
TW>
TW>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: help:Need a good editor...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:44:08 GMT
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 03:59:51 GMT, Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm looking for an editor that can cut and paste columns, does anyone
>have any suggestions?
Vim -- visual block mode.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: Re: help:Need a good editor...
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:56:35 GMT
In the Unix/Linux world, cut works very well.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cevat Ustun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm looking for an editor that can cut and paste columns, does
>anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Cev.
>
--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best way to make BACKUP image of hard drive
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:53:49 -0500
Ah, a different animal alltogether....
I'd buy another 6.5 GB HD and cp -a the whole thing to it. If you set
up the partitions the same as on teh original, you won't really have a
problem.
If you don't like cp -a, you cn use something like
/bin/tar cvf - -T /archive/log | tar xf - -C /archive
where log is a list of all the files you want to backup.
(I do much the same thing on my live server.)
A 6.5 GB ide drive is about $120 these days.
--Yan
Luke wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure my Pop would jump at spending $750 on a home network. :)
>
> > I hate to state the obvious, but a SERVER with NO BACKUP?
> >
> > Tape drives are a lot cheaper than data or the time it would take to rig
> > something that may not work..
> >
> > You can tarball the whole file system, but why not just get BRU and a
> > tape drive? Less than $750 US at today's prices.
> >
> > --Yan
> >
> > Luke wrote:
> > >
> > > After I get a server tuned and running perfectly, I would like to make
> > > an image of the disk so that if anything fails or if it gets cracked
> > > I'll have a good starting point. I don't have any backup devices (tape
> > > drives, cdr, etc...), only a few other win98 computers on the lan.
> > > Could I just put the entire filesystem into a tarball and ftp it to
> > > another computer? How would one restore this if you had to wipe out the
> > > hard disk? Any other better solutions for a simple situation like this?
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From: Jonathan Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Apps
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 05:30:16 GMT
I'm pretty neew to linux, and whenever i try to install RPMs, i select say
the games and apps i want, but the package manager keeps telling me that
there's hundreds of depencdancies. I try to find all the other dependant
packages, but it's next to impossible. Isn't there some way to just have
it install all dependant packages?
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: "Steve Cowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Booting with NT
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 05:51:54 GMT
"GM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> John Harvey wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I was hoping someone could tell me how to modify the boot.ini file
in NT
> > to allow me to use the NT boot loader with Linux RedHat 6. I know I
could
> > install LILO and have it boot NT, but this is not the solution I want.
(I
> > run an office of MS wussies, and it will unnerve them to see LILO...)
> >
> > Thanx in advance,
> >
> > John Harvey
>
> Hi,
>
> In my boot.ini file, I have the following additional entries making
references
> to Linux:
>
> [boot loader]
> defaiult=c:\bootsect.lnx
> [operating systems]
> c:\bootsect.lnx="Linux"
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT ...
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT ... (VGA mode)
>
>
> Glen
>
Although the above is correct (syntactically) the file bootsect.lnx must
first be created from your linux system (copy of the boot record image
created by lilo) and then copied to your NT partition so that "ntldr" can
read it.
To understand how this file is created... goto this excellent article on
this subject
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html
Steve Cowles
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From: Ben Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Window manager hell
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:54:33 -0600
I am using Gnome/iceWM under SuSE 6.3 and it has preformed very, very
well for me. SuSE tends to stick with KDE, but I find KDE to be a
bloated hog and I configured Gnome and iceWM..it seems to be a kickass
combo.
just my 0.02
Wallace Barnes wrote:
>
> GNOME is your best bet. It has a WINDOWS-like interface and a configuration
> tools for it's desktop settings.
>
> Ian Smith wrote:
>
> > DHobbs wrote:
> > >
> > > Nicholas John Murison wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of starting a holy war about window manager I'd like to ask
> > > > if anyone can recommend a good, easily configurable (text-based that
> > > > is), low CPU-hogging and highly personalisable window manager.
> >
> > Sawmill, http://www.sourceforge.net/ , graphical config, uses GTK,
> > themeable even on a per-window basis, http://sawmill.themes.org/
> >
> > > > Pre-RH6 (i.e RH5.2) I was using AfterStep. After removing RH's wmconfig
> > > > package and getting hold of the authentic (i.e. not RH's hacked)
> > > > AfterStep life got a lot easier when it came to configuring menus, look
> > > > etc. Now that I'm on RH6 I've sort of been thrown into GNOME and
> > > > Enlightenment, but I really can't see what the point is with both a
> > > > window manager and a desktop manager, especially since they overlap one
> > > > another in functionality. I tried reverting to AS, but didn't really
> > > > feel comfortable with the apparent limitations AS has when it comes to
> > > > personalising. KDE's configuration facilities were a bit too GUI for
> > > > me, so I wasn't too keen on that either.
> >
> > Virtually no overlap between Gnome & Sawmill.
> >
> > > > I've seen several postings about sawmill (which I'm in the middle of
> > > > trying now) and others, and I was wondering
> > > > if any out of these are what I'm looking for. Anyone care to share
> > > > their opinions with me?
> >
> > I think sawmill might be what you are looking for.
> >
> > > I'm using AfterStep (of the afterstep.org site) with RH6.0 and it's
> > > working great. Personalize? I cannot think of a thing I CANNOT
> > > personalize with it.
> >
> > That's sawmill, boys and girls.
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Ian Smith
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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SuSE Linux 6.3 (2.2.14) ICQ UIN:49268667
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