Linux-Misc Digest #811, Volume #27                Tue, 8 May 01 16:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Time question ("Daniel Kenzelmann")
  Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories? (Stan McCann)
  Re: Running from a RAM Disk ("Tauno Voipio")
  Re: which library is getpid() in? (Jim Cochrane)
  Re: Time question (Warren Bell)
  Re: File System going bad ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Running from a RAM Disk ("Mondrain")
  Re: vga = ask ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: which library is getpid() in? (Greg Porr)
  Re: Time question ("Daniel Kenzelmann")
  Re: Running from a RAM Disk ("Mondrain")
  Re: apt-get on Redhat (Kevin)
  How to make Alt-Tab work in ALL WM (Andrew Purugganan)
  employment opportunities ("mark")
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("mark")
  Re: how to mount a /dev/fd0u1760 formatted floppy ("KW")
  Re: Running from a RAM Disk ("Steve Wolfe")
  Re: apt-get on Redhat ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Network sniffer ("KW")
  Re: Network sniffer (Gregory Spath)
  landscape printing ("Tim Buterbaugh")
  Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Network sniffer (Christopher Jarosz)
  Re: Time question (Warren Bell)
  Re: Network sniffer (Jonathan Kemp)

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From: "Daniel Kenzelmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time question
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:05:27 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is it standard practice to keep the bios time at GMT and then have your
> system time adjust from that, or should you keep your bios time at your
> local time?

If you want to use such horrible things like Windows, then you need to
set your localtime, otherwise it's a good idea to use GMT for bios time

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From: Stan McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:53:51 -0600

Elf Sternberg wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE) writes:
> 
> >> > I want--in a single command--to copy a directory ***and all files and
> >> > subdirectories within that directory*** to another location.
> 
> Assuming that both directories exist and you're already in the origin
> directory:
> 
>         tar cf - . | ( cd /path/to/target/dir; tar xvf - )
> 
>                 Elf
> 

        Why the long command line using tar?  What's wrong with 'cp -r source
destination'?  The destination doesn't even have to exist first as it
will be created.

-- 
Stan McCann
Computer Services Manager
New Mexico State University at Alamogordo

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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running from a RAM Disk
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 18:26:03 GMT


"Mondrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If this has been discussed before, all the better, then somebody could
> please point to where the FAQ or Summary is.
>
> I'm contemplating running my firewall (and/or) mail server exclusively
> from RAM. I get some 512 MB of RAM then boot off CD. The kernel I build
> for that machine and burn to bootable CD, and the root file system is
> also put unto the CD.
>
> So, my question is: why would that not work?
>
> Assumption 1: Power is not an issue. Only concern is failure of devices.
> Some more worrying however, is that I heard that RAM is unreliable.
> Supposedly, if the machine ran for long enough, I would start seeing
> loads of bit errors. Is this true - could this be circumvented with ECC
> RAM?
>
> BTW: My motive is to silence the machine completely. I want no fans. The
> CPU can be passively cooled (as long as I don't use something like a PII
> or higher, the HDD is not installed, and the power supply can be bought
> as "low noise" (in which case my fridge is louder). Two more words: "home"
and
> "DSL".
>
> Any comments?
>

There are HOWTOs in the Linux documentation: Diskless-HOWTO and
Diskless-Root-NFS-HOWTO. They discuss the implications of diskless Linux
boxes. There are even instructions for Ram-disk / CD-ROM combination based
system.

Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: which library is getpid() in?
Date: 8 May 2001 12:26:11 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Yidao Cai  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I compile my program in C, there is no complaint. 
>But when I use g++, it complains that getpid() undeclared. 
>

You're talking about compiling here, but your subject line implies a link
problem - which is it?  Your paragraph above is unclear.

If it's a compile problem, did you do:
man getpid

and include the file it says to include?

>
>cai
>-- 
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time question
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:37:59 -0700

Daniel Kenzelmann wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is it standard practice to keep the bios time at GMT and then have your
> > system time adjust from that, or should you keep your bios time at your
> > local time?
> 
> If you want to use such horrible things like Windows, then you need to
> set your localtime, otherwise it's a good idea to use GMT for bios time

Oops, yeah I'm using Mandrake 7.2.  If I do use local time in the bios
will the system still set up the system time on reboot to know whether
its standard time or daylight savings time?

Thanks

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: File System going bad
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:23:46 +0200

In comp.os.linux.help Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>> 
>> In comp.os.linux.help Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > did you actually read my original post, are you just
>> > trolling for a flame war?
>> 
>> > This problem takes weeks to show up.  It's not something I just
>> > place on a bench, boot up and see if it's there.
>> 
>> So your second task is to develop an accelerator for the condition,
>> as well as your first ask being to develop a diagnostic for it!
>> 
>> (I am trying to teach you how to test!).
>> 
> Perhaps if I crank up my AC power frequency, over clocked the CPU, 
> changed over to 240VAC, and turned up my thermostat?

Not bad ideas, but I'd try something simpler first, such as running
cpuburn, bonnie, and a kernel compilation simultaneously. Oh, and
throw in an scp over the net at the same time. Sometimes it's a pure
pci bus glitch.


Peter

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From: "Mondrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running from a RAM Disk
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:46:23 -0500

Thanks cbbrowne!

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mondrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Assumption 1: Power is not an issue. Only concern is failure of
>> devices.
> Are you putting it on a UPS?  Even there, power _is_ an issue, as UPSes
> aren't _perfectly_ reliable.  [Aside: The only way I'd be anywhere near
> prepared to call UPSes reliable, under paranoid circumstances, would be
> if the system has _TWO_ power supplies, either of which could be
> unplugged or _replaced_ without necessitating a shutdown...]

The reason I think I can afford to make that assumption, is that I am
working on the basis that I will loose everything at some point. I can
not make power reliable without spending lots of money. Hence, I am
building to be able to loose data without it being a problem. I had a
solution to this, which I will get to that later.

> And quite frankly, I suspect you'd be better served by getting something
> like the NetLink DSL router.  It's small, cheap, quiet, and behaves more
> like an appliance, which is what it sounds like you want.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I want total control over the box. It's
hardware, software, configuration - everything. I'm fresh out of
University and miss experimenting around.

> If you were seriously prepared to spend the bucks to have 512MB of ECC
> RAM, I'd suggest downgrading to 64MB of RAM, and get a CompactFlash card
> with IDE interface to store /var on.  CF cards are silent (which you
> want) but also provide persistent storage (which you probably also
> want).

Now that is something I had not though of. I was going to have an IDE
drive that would be mounted when the UPS signals "power failure" to save
stuff that needs saving. But that would have been ugly.

However, 64MB for my entire system is a little tight. Following, this
suggestion, I can put all read only data on the RAM disk (such as /bin
/etc /lib and what not) and keep all "dynamic data" on the flash (/home
/var).

That does throw up the question "how late can I mount /var & /home during
boot?" Can I load PCMCIA first, and then /var?

Or does this make sense? The reason I am holding on to RAM disks is that
RAM is cheaper. For ca. $150 I can get 384MB RAM or 64MB Compact Flash.

I'd welcome any and all feedback.

Regards,,
mondrain

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: vga = ask
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 18:56:26 GMT

On Mon, 7 May 2001 07:52:40 -0500, "olgnuby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>Hopefully not sounding assumptive on another persons abilities or knowledge
>one way or the other, but are you running /sbin/lilo after the changes to
>/etc/lilo.conf?
>
>I run various resolutions in the ranges you are speaking of in addition to
>things like 305,  316, etc. as long as they are within the range of my
>monitor, they seem to work okay.
>
>Charlie
>

Thanks Charlie,

Don't worry about sounding assumptive of my abilities, I'm a bit
thick, but learning fast :)

However - yes of course I ran lilo after editing lilo.conf!

vga = 9
vga = 122
vga = 0x0122

in lilo.conf returned:

"You passed an undefined mode number."  (ouch)


I finally found out (in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt) that
the hex mode numbers need to be converted to decimal for lilo.conf,
hence,

"vga = 290"  =  beautiful screen  :O)

Thanks again,

H.


PS  While we're on the subject though, I fail to see why I can get all
these nice possible screen modes with with an 8MB ATI Rage Pro, when
not half as many are possible after a scan on my other machine which
has a 32MB Matrox G400 Max....(!)   It's all black magic to me.....

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Subject: Re: which library is getpid() in?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Porr)
Date: 8 May 2001 14:56:58 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>When I compile my program in C, there is no complaint. 
>But when I use g++, it complains that getpid() undeclared. 

Unlike C, C++ compilers require the function prototype to be present.
You need to include <unistd.h> in your program.

- Greg

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From: "Daniel Kenzelmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time question
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:59:08 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oops, yeah I'm using Mandrake 7.2.  If I do use local time in the bios
> will the system still set up the system time on reboot to know whether
> its standard time or daylight savings time?
> 
> Thanks

Yeah, no prob, the bios time will stay on GMT and system time will be
set according to standard time or daylight saving time ... i use rh7.1
with GMT and it still shows me the time like this:
Tue May  8 20:57:24 CEST 2001

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From: "Mondrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running from a RAM Disk
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:01:36 -0500

In article "Tauno Voipio" wrote:
> There are HOWTOs in the Linux documentation: Diskless-HOWTO and
> Diskless-Root-NFS-HOWTO. They discuss the implications of diskless Linux
> boxes. There are even instructions for Ram-disk / CD-ROM combination
> based system.

Thanks for your suggestion - I had not seen them. They don't directly
address what I am trying to do (I have no server to run bootp from, for
example). But there is some overlapping where I can get some info in
Diskless-Root-NFS-HOWTO.

Thanks for the pointer.

,,
mondrain

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:12:33 GMT

Use AutoRPM if you want apt-get like behavior on Redhat or
Mandrake.  I use it in lieu of Redhat' and Mandrake's autoupdate
programs.  AutoRPM is configurable enough that you can choose
which packages to download dynamicly.  Look here
<http://www.kaybee.org/~kirk/html/linux.html> for AutoRPM.

G'luck....

In article <9d7131$gf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> P.S. On the downside, I need to download all updates, even the ones that 
> are irrelevant to my system.

-- 
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: How to make Alt-Tab work in ALL WM
Date: 8 May 2001 17:35:24 GMT

I would like to make Alt-Tab work the same way in all of X, it allows me 
to switch to different windows. I have managed to configure it in 
Enlightenment (and WindowMaker) but is there a way to set it up in 
xmodmap so that it will work no matter which WM I am running e.g.Blackbox?
TIA

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: employment opportunities
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:25:58 -0700

Hi Rich,

I wonder if you have any openings for Software Engineers ? If yes, I am
interested and can send you my resume.

thanx
hamza



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From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:27:16 -0700

Hi Roleta,

I wonder if you have any openings for software engineer? If yes, I am
interested and can send you me resume.

thanx
hamza



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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to mount a /dev/fd0u1760 formatted floppy
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:28:48 -0500

I believe once you fdformat it you will also have to make a file system
on it...

man mkfs
and get the options you specifically want... most likely to be dos compat
you'll want

mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0

But then again....  I've only used mkbootdisk on a blank 1760 disk so I'm
not sure if that context is correct...

--
KW



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Detlef Weitz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi,
> 
> i'm using suse linux,
> and i created (fdformat) an 1760KB Floppy,
> 
> but how to mount?
> 
> thx
> 
> maen

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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running from a RAM Disk
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:15:48 -0600

> If this has been discussed before, all the better, then somebody could
> please point to where the FAQ or Summary is.
>
> I'm contemplating running my firewall (and/or) mail server exclusively
> from RAM. I get some 512 MB of RAM then boot off CD. The kernel I build
> for that machine and burn to bootable CD, and the root file system is
> also put unto the CD.
>
> So, my question is: why would that not work?

  Actually, the question in my mind is, why so much RAM?  It's not like
you're going to need a full X-windows suite on your firewall. : )

> Assumption 1: Power is not an issue. Only concern is failure of devices.
> Some more worrying however, is that I heard that RAM is unreliable.
> Supposedly, if the machine ran for long enough, I would start seeing
> loads of bit errors. Is this true - could this be circumvented with ECC
> RAM?

   It can certainly be avoided with ECC, but then again, regular SDRAM is
very reliable.  The only time our servers have downtime (knock on wood) is
when we're doing hardware or kernel upgrades.

> BTW: My motive is to silence the machine completely. I want no fans. The
> CPU can be passively cooled (as long as I don't use something like a PII
> or higher, the HDD is not installed, and the power supply can be bought
> as "low noise" (in which case my fridge is louder). Two more words:
"home" and
> "DSL".
>
> Any comments?

   Yeah.  You're being paranoid about noise. : )  Seriously, though, there
were plenty of commercially-built pentiums with passive cooling, they just
have huge beasts of heat-sinks.  Compaq did some that way, and so did
Dell.   You might still want a quiet fan ventilating the case, or just
leave the side panel off.   And you could get away with less than 8 megs
if you really tried, I'd say that 64 or 128 megs would be more than
plenty.

steve




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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:17:11 +0200

wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Hazlewood wrote:

>> Aren't you better off just using debian?
>> 
>> I have very bad experienced with redhat..

> Frankly, I have very bad experiences with Debian, like not being able to 
> configure X, dated software in "stable" is another one.

Not being able to configure X is your problem, given that the rest of
the world can! And "dated" software is what is meant by "stable". A
good rule of computer science is not to use a program until it as at
least five (preferably twenty) years old. If you prefer bugs, get
"undated" software.

Peter

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From: "KW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Network sniffer
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:31:27 -0500

ethereal should work real well if you wanna see what's in the packets...
etherape will show you a graphical representation of source and
destination as well as generic bandwidth meter for each connection... 

--
KW 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jonathan Kemp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We are looking for a pretty good network sniffer to be able to monitor
> our network.  We have around 30 PCs, running Linux, WinNT, Win2K, MAC OS
> 9... from the basic workstation to the big Oracle database server.
> 
> The best for us would probably be a Win2K sniffer, since all the
> workstations are running win2K...but we could manage to use anything
> else.
> 
> So that's it, to make a short story, we are simply looking for some
> advices on choosing a good network sniffer.
> 
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Jonathan Kemp
> Capella Technologies

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Spath)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network sniffer
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:41:10 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Kemp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Hi all, 
>
>We are looking for a pretty good network sniffer to be able to monitor
>our network.  We have around 30 PCs, running Linux, WinNT, Win2K, MAC
>OS 9... from the basic workstation to the big Oracle database server.
>
>The best for us would probably be a Win2K sniffer, since all the
>workstations are running win2K...but we could manage to use anything
>else.
>
>So that's it, to make a short story, we are simply looking for some
>advices on choosing a good network sniffer.
>
>Thanks for the help
>
>Jonathan Kemp
>Capella Technologies


What is wrong with tcpdump?  If you must have gui there is Ethereal.
If you like looking for userid's and passwords, there is dsniff.

If you want one for win2k, why are you posting to a linux networking
group?

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From: "Tim Buterbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: landscape printing
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:51:02 -0700

In HP/UX, I can print a text document landscape with the following command:

lp -olandscape -dprintername filetoprint

Is there an equivalent command in the Linux lpr world?

Thanks.

Tim



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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Possible bug in RedHat 7.1 in use of mouse
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:47:49 -0500

Leonard Evens wrote:
> 
> Continuing with a previously reported problem, I can't get
> the mouse to work in RH7.1 installed on a Winbook XL.  If
> gpm runs, everything freezes, including the keyboard, as soon
> as I login.   I can't get the mouse in X to work.   This same machine
> worked fine in every version of RedHat up to and including RH7.0.
> 
> I assume there is some hardware incompatibility with the current driver.
> 
> I guess it is remotely possible there is something wrong with
> the CD (from a fresh RedHat boxed package).
> 
> Has anyone else encountered a similar problem?
> 
> --
> 
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

Let me add some more.  I plugged my mouse into a serial adapter
and plugged it into the serial port.  I still have the problem
that gpm hangs the machine, but if I disable it, then I can
configure X after using mouseconfig to set the mouse to a
generic 3 button serial mouse.

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Christopher Jarosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network sniffer
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:58:51 GMT

Hi Gregory !!

Why settle for second best.....Sniffer Pro from NAI is still the best as far as
professional tools.....Shomitti is also excellent.  Just my opinion....of course, I do
this for a living......

chrisj

Gregory Spath wrote:

> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Kemp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >We are looking for a pretty good network sniffer to be able to monitor
> >our network.  We have around 30 PCs, running Linux, WinNT, Win2K, MAC
> >OS 9... from the basic workstation to the big Oracle database server.
> >
> >The best for us would probably be a Win2K sniffer, since all the
> >workstations are running win2K...but we could manage to use anything
> >else.
> >
> >So that's it, to make a short story, we are simply looking for some
> >advices on choosing a good network sniffer.
> >
> >Thanks for the help
> >
> >Jonathan Kemp
> >Capella Technologies
>
> What is wrong with tcpdump?  If you must have gui there is Ethereal.
> If you like looking for userid's and passwords, there is dsniff.
>
> If you want one for win2k, why are you posting to a linux networking
> group?


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From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time question
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:09:58 -0700

Daniel Kenzelmann wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Warren Bell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Oops, yeah I'm using Mandrake 7.2.  If I do use local time in the bios
> > will the system still set up the system time on reboot to know whether
> > its standard time or daylight savings time?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> Yeah, no prob, the bios time will stay on GMT and system time will be
> set according to standard time or daylight saving time ... i use rh7.1
> with GMT and it still shows me the time like this:
> Tue May  8 20:57:24 CEST 2001

Ok, but my question was if I set the bios time to local time, not GMT, 
will the system still be able to detect and set standard time and
daylight savings time?

Thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Kemp)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network sniffer
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:13:15 GMT

On Tue, 08 May 2001 19:58:51 GMT, Christopher Jarosz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Gregory !!
>
>Why settle for second best.....Sniffer Pro from NAI is still the best as far as
>professional tools.....Shomitti is also excellent.  Just my opinion....of course, I do
>this for a living......
>
>chrisj


I've heard about Sniffer Pro before...and I'm happy to get a second
good opinion about it.  I think I'll give it a try.  Ethereal seems to
retain the attention too...but I'll have to get myself a linux
workstation, since all linux servers here runs without a GUI.

And for those asking why I post on a linux newsgroup instead of a
windows one... well... generally, linux people knows both linux and
windows software (and most of the time, prefers the linux one) while
windows people are mostly dumb enough to think that there's nothing
else on earth than windows-based applications.  I wanted a real good
opinion on this one...

Anyway...thanks a lot for all the support

Regards

Jonathan Kemp
Capella Technologies

>
>Gregory Spath wrote:
>
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Kemp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >We are looking for a pretty good network sniffer to be able to monitor
>> >our network.  We have around 30 PCs, running Linux, WinNT, Win2K, MAC
>> >OS 9... from the basic workstation to the big Oracle database server.
>> >
>> >The best for us would probably be a Win2K sniffer, since all the
>> >workstations are running win2K...but we could manage to use anything
>> >else.
>> >
>> >So that's it, to make a short story, we are simply looking for some
>> >advices on choosing a good network sniffer.
>> >
>> >Thanks for the help
>> >
>> >Jonathan Kemp
>> >Capella Technologies
>>
>> What is wrong with tcpdump?  If you must have gui there is Ethereal.
>> If you like looking for userid's and passwords, there is dsniff.
>>
>> If you want one for win2k, why are you posting to a linux networking
>> group?
>


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