Linux-Misc Digest #920, Volume #23 Wed, 22 Mar 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: background (Matthew Haley)
Do I Need A Swap File? ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Installing GNOME ("Michael Westerman")
Where?? $79.00 dedicated linux server (BodaBagHarry)
loop filesystems not portable? (Bruce Linley)
Re: Weird overnight error message ("li'John")
Re: Laptop battery life Linux vs Win (Andreas Hinz)
Phat Linux login
Re: Phat Linux login (Rick Miller)
Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI")
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use?
("Adam C. Emerson")
Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use? ("Adam
C. Emerson")
staroffice running slowly (Jorge Ravazzola)
Re: Two screens at the same time (Carleton Tsui)
Re: Netscape 4.72 Bus Error - HELP! (Carleton Tsui)
Please Help: reading a macbinary file under linux (Dean S. Messing)
backup question ("Eddy")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: background
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:20:33 GMT
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:32:24 GMT, Andrew Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How to set up background in xwindows (not in gnome)
xsetroot
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Xnews (Win32) -> http://xnews.3dnews.net
Xnews Installer (Win32) -> http://www.users.uswest.net/~mrh99/Xnews.htm
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Do I Need A Swap File?
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:23:24 +1000
i want to know can i run linux from ramdisk without a swap file eg a cdrom
boot or net boot?
if so how ?
please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thank you in advance for any information.
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing GNOME
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:28:50 +1000
try re running redhat setup.
selecting upgrade packages.
only selecting x stuff
mabey through custom.
install will take care of dependancys.
try installing gnome/enlightenment and kde so both librarys are there
and it should work in either
thats all i can say
bye
Buck Turgidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xJOB4.13222$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just installed RH 6.1 using the server option. It apparently didn't
> install any GUI's, which I need for an Oracle install. How can I install
> GNOME?
>
> Do I just need to install the gnome-core package, or X windows as well?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BodaBagHarry)
Subject: Where?? $79.00 dedicated linux server
Date: 22 Mar 2000 04:35:04 GMT
Hope this is a good place to ask...
A friend read a press release (and can't remember where) on some website that
a new company was coming online with $79.00 a month dedicated linux webservers
with root access.
Is this true????? Anyone have the URL, phone or more info???????
Is this a REALLY a dedicated machine on the net for cheap??? If so I want
one...
Thanks in advance
Harry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Linley)
Subject: loop filesystems not portable?
Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:02:37 -0800
I have a file mounted as a filesystem through the loop device with
blowfish crypto. Inside that filesystem is one huge file that fills
the entire filesystem. That file is then mounted as a filesystem through
another loop device with serpent crypto. Setup was as follows:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/mnt/layer1.e2fs bs=1M count=650
losetup -e blowfish /dev/loop0 /mnt/layer1.e2fs
mke2fs -b 1024 /dev/loop0
mount -t ext2 /dev/loop0 /mnt/layer1
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/mnt/layer1/layer2.e2fs bs=1M count=640
losetup -e serpent /dev/loop1 /mnt/layer1/layer2.e2fs
mke2fs -b 1024 /dev/loop1
mount -t ext2 /dev/loop1 /mnt/layer2
Everything works just fine. I can mount and umount the filesystem.
A script does everything in the right order and reverse order for
mounting and umounting. The script even mounts the filesystem read
only, to test for integrity and avoid corruption before remounting
it read-write. However, if I copy the topmost file, while everything
is unmounted, layer1.e2fs to another machine built with the same
kernel, same crypto, same versions of mount and losetup and try to
mount the filesystem, mount complains about bad superblocks and such.
The copies verify just fine byte for byte. What's going wrong? When
I make backups, I want to archive the encrypted filesystem to CD
for safekeeping, but if I can't ever read it back and get it
mounted, it's useless.
Does the loop device access the file in some unusual way (direct
sector reads, etc.?) Are the two loop devices stepping on each
other somehow? Does the underlying geometry of the hard drive
and/or disk partition matter? I thought the filesystem was totally
contained within the file. Where is the corruption coming from?
Help!
Kernel is 2.2.14 with int'l patch, mount and losetup are 2.10f also
with int'l patch.
--
Bruce James Robert Linley | +---+---+--_ | "Ocha tte nigai demo... hito no chi
linley at megami dot org | | |NV | UT | wa atatakakute tottemo amai no"
Programmer, Fortunet Inc. | \ CA \ |___ | "Tea is always bitter... but blood
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA ---------> \*| AZ | is warm and sweet" - Miyu
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From: "li'John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Weird overnight error message
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:30:02 +1100
I'd panic.
I recently upgraded a few system from RH5.2 to RH6.1, and got a lot of error
messages similar to this that just popped up on the console; like your
system they don't seem to be doing any harm.
BUT, these are real errors that only the later kernels detect/report -
turned out they were always there inthe older setup, and it's a HDD /
HDD-driver incompatibillity. I found this out the hard way when one of these
errors bubbled over into an actual disk corruption. Yours, though, look more
like there's a physical media problem, but maybe not.
If you have some other 6.1 setup that's not giving you these errors, but
uses different hardware, I'd suggest copying it's h/w setup. What h/w are
you using, BTW?
There is also the possibility that with your install, you killed off the
disk (did you reformat/repartition the disk in the install? If it's
old/cheap, you might have exceeded it's life) in which case you again are
going to need a new HD. If the system is for home use only, you could always
try a reinstall (with reformat) and hope that it was just a small error; but
having seen this sort of thing a lot, I don't think so. Sorry.
Incidentally, the <enter> makes it return to normal because the program that
gives you the Login: prompt (mingetty, usually) doesn't know about these
errors, doesn't even know they're on the screen. The messages are kernel
messages being sent straight to the console, and hitting <enter> is
interpreted by mingetty as "clear screen and redisplay Login: prompt". Oh,
and LINUX is rarely doing nothing. Overnight, it's probably doing cleanups
(check your /etc/crontab file, which has stuff in the OOTB RH install) which
would cause it to look at the whole disk - thus sparking disk errors, if
they are going to pop up.
Jeff Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I recently set up a Redhat 6.1 linux system and am getting a weird error
> message when I leave it turned on overnight. The circumstances are that
> no one is logged into into it and I have no unusual processes running.
> When I look at the screen in the morning it has the following error
> message repeated over and over again like this:
>
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
> "Directory sread (sector 0x20) failed"
>
> There is no cursor, but if it hit "Enter" a normal log on prompt comes
> up and it behaves like nothing is the matter.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong and how to fix it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: Laptop battery life Linux vs Win
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:36:44 GMT
On 14 Mar 2000 05:07:18 GMT, David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Just curious if anyone has a feel for how much longer batteries last in a
>notebook computer running Linux vs Windows?
>
I have a Chicony MP-993 Celeron-433.
This is my observation with the above notebook (aprox.):
NT4 SP5: 2.0 hours
NT5/Win2000Pro WS: 2.5 hours
Win98: 3.0 hours
Win95: 3.5 hours
Linux 2.2.14, APM: 4.5 hours
These are observed battery lifetimes.
>when playing DVD). Linux apm seems to estimate much longer times. Like
>over 6 hrs remaining with 2/3 charge.
>
This is most likely because of the CPU idle setting of the kernel.
When the CPU goes from and to idle, the APM calculates large jumps in the
/proc/apm status.
I have a LCD with among others a symbol stating CPU status.
In Win95 and Linux I see the symbol showing the processor is sleeping
during inactive periods.
This is observed a few times in Win98 too, but one day it did'nt work
anymore even with no processes running. I never figures out why.
Because of the CPU idle my processor too is very cold in Linux compared to
eg. NT5/Win2000.
But when compiling Xfree86 it gets very hot, of course :-)
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
Andreas Hinz
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Phat Linux login
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:30:26 GMT
My friend successfully installed Phat Linux but when he tries to login
as "root" with pass "phatlinux" it says invalid pass.....please help...
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From: Rick Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Phat Linux login
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:07:40 GMT
I am not familiar with Phat Linux setup, but as with most distros (even
NT)...you set the Super-Users password during the install process...this is
the password he should be using.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My friend successfully installed Phat Linux but when he tries to login
> as "root" with pass "phatlinux" it says invalid pass.....please help...
>
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Take care,
Rick Miller
Systems Administrator
Winstar Communications, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI")
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:57:12 GMT
John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are global options for 'lilo.conf', such as:
> disk=/dev/hda
> bios=0x80
> disk=/dev/sda
> bios=0x81
This basically did it for me. In my original setup, sda was at 0x81
(with hda at 0x80). Explicityly telling lilo that sda was at 0x81 in
lilo.conf did nothing for me; I had the same problem. The only way I
was able to make it work was by disabling hda in the bios. That put
sda at 0x80. Then I told lilo that sda is at 0x80 in lilo.conf and
ran lilo and it worked. And Linux finds hda whether or not it's enabled
in the bios, so this has no negative impact for me.
Thanks!
sean
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:46:03 GMT
Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Go to cheapbytes.com
> 2. buy redhat 6.1 or other distribution
My main problem with RedHat is that I know too many people who install
it, and don't even know what ifconfig, route, or even fsck is for,
so when something goes wrong, they're stuck.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"As for the minimalists, I think their movement is extremely well named.
They offer minimal melody, minimal harmony, minimal orchestration, and
altogether minimal enjoyment." -- Fred Flaxman
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to learn UNIX. I'd like to know what product of Linux I could use?
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:42:28 GMT
JEFFREY E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know what product of Linux that I could used to learn Unix.
If you want to learn get Slackware, it forces you to learn the
guts of the system, or you could grab one of the BSDs, my favorite
is OpenBSD.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"As for the minimalists, I think their movement is extremely well named.
They offer minimal melody, minimal harmony, minimal orchestration, and
altogether minimal enjoyment." -- Fred Flaxman
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From: Jorge Ravazzola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: staroffice running slowly
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:30:26 GMT
hi , im trying staroffice for linux under red hat 6.0 and it haves a
really poor performance on my pentium 233 with 32 mb ram .Is this a
common problem among staroffice users or it is just me and my machine, and
if it so, could anyone give a clue of where to start loooking for the
problem? thank you very much
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From: Carleton Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two screens at the same time
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:43:45 GMT
Hi,
I had a Win98 box with 2 graphics cards running a dual display and would not
move to Linux until I could do the same! I've heard that XFree86-4.0 will
start including multi-head support, but have heard nothing about what card
combinations will work. After reading as much as I could about the topic I
arrived at MetroLink and AcceleratedX as the two commercial X servers that
supported multi-headed displays. MetroLink did not respond to my e-mail
queries and as a result I went with AcceleratedX. As my existing cards were
not listed as being compatible to be used in a multi-headed display
environment with either of these products I decided to switch to the 32Mb
Matrox G400 which has two VGA outputs on one AGP card. This card, along with
Accelerated-X 5.03 (plus the G400 patch on Xig's web site), allowed me to
run RH6.1 on a single logical screen over two 19" monitors at 1280x1024
each. Note the words "single logical screen" (ie. a single seamless desktop
that you can drag windows between like in W98).
Not all gfx cards are guaranteed to work this way with all X servers. In
fact, Accelerated-X currently does not support single logical screen
functionality on cards that do not have dual VGA outputs on a single card.
So if you have two seperate cards the best you may be able to do is have two
desktops that you need to manually specify what window goes to which
desktop. This is the impression I got from reading about AcceleratedX.
Anyways, it is a beautiful setup except it cost around $400 U.S. for the new
card and Accelerated-X (multi-headed display version about $200; the $99 one
is only for one screen). However, if you do development work it is
definitely worth it. Fortunately, the company paid for it... :)
Rafael wrote:
> Hi!
> I have read all lot of docs, but I could not find info how
> to setup two graphic cards in Linux. Does Linux Support displaying
> desktops on two screens if you have instaled twp graphic cards.
> I find it very useful in Windows98, but I realy want to have possibility
>
> live without Microsoft. Please help me.
>
> Rafael
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From: Carleton Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.72 Bus Error - HELP!
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 05:49:52 GMT
In general, I found I got a lot more crashes running Gnome/Enlightenment. I'm
using Netscape 4.61 in KDE (RH6.1) and things seem stabler (not just Netscape).
Lee Revell wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have revently replace the RedHat supplied RPMS or XFree86-3.3.5 with 3.3.6
> that I compiled from source. Now I am getting the infamous Netscape "Bus
> Error". I upgraded to 4.72, which of course did not solve the problem. I
> think they stopped fixing bugs years ago. I have searched the Web for
> solutions, but everything out there is WAY outdated.
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From: Dean S. Messing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Please Help: reading a macbinary file under linux
Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:28:12 -0800
Here is my problem: I have received, in an e-mail attachment, a
document written under MacOS using MS-Word for Macs. After the mail
is decoded with metamail I'm left with a "macbinary" file of the Word
doc. I know this because
i ) in the doc I can see (with emacs) the string "Microsoft Word 8.0"
ii) the mime header in the e-mail says:
Content-Type: application/x-macbinary; name="elomdyn"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="elomdyn"
StarOffice is unable to read the doc and I suspect it is because
it is in "macbinary" format, whatever that is. Ordinary MS Word 8.0
files are not a problem for StarOffice.
Can anyone give me some help here. It is quite important that I read
this doc quickly and I'm really in the dark here. I'm running SuSE 6.3
on an Intel Pentium Pro platform.
Thanks for your help. Please use the e-mail address below,
as well as replys here since my connectivity to USENET is spotty.
Regards,
Dean S. Messing
Digital Video Processing & Analysis Grp.
Remove digits to get my Sharp Laboratories of America
e-mail address E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Eddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: backup question
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:51:45 +0800
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