Linux-Misc Digest #946, Volume #23               Fri, 24 Mar 00 20:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: thanks allot ! (JCA)
  Re: I Broke It - Update ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (Randy Crawford)
  Re: National Geographic (JCA)
  Re: Digi Board components compatible? (JCA)
  Re: LINUX or not? (brian moore)
  Mustek hand scanner driver (Duane Evenson)
  Re: how do I find path for an rpm? (John E Suche)
  Re: NETSCAPE FONTS (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: scsi tape compatibility problem? (Robb Aley Allan)
  Re: NETSCAPE FONTS (Bob Tennent)
  Re: NETSCAPE FONTS (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: how do I find path for an rpm? ("Greg")
  keyboard capture: xkeys? (Oliver Wahlen)
  Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (Stefan Ohlsson)
  Re: Default Home Directories for pam_smb (John E Suche)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (John 
Loukidelis)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (John 
Loukidelis)
  I Broke It - Final Update (Raquel Rice)
  LETS MAKE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!! ("Mickel")

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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: thanks allot !
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:14:06 -0800

Fernando Delgado wrote:

> I am not an expert, I did some code to fix the Y2K problem. But any way,
> AS/400 is as we say over here (spain) a "green dog", or as least as diferent
> to PC as a green dog will be to a regular one.

    ?Perro verde? Never heard that one. Is it a new idiom?





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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I Broke It - Update
Date: 24 Mar 2000 23:29:37 GMT

Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: succeeded
:      Mar 21 21:00:36 localhost modprobe: can't locate module
: parport_lowlevel
:      Mar 21 21:00:38 localhost modprobe: can't locate module
: parport_lowlevel
:      Mar 21 21:00:39 localhost sendmail: sendmail startup
: succeeded
:      Mar 21 21:00:39 localhost kernel: lp: driver loaded but
: no devices found

: My /etc/conf.modules does have the alias entry:
:      alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc

Well, better install it then, hadn't you?

: My *guess* (and it is very much a guess at this point, being
: so new to Linux) is that I need to rename the
: /etc/conf.modules and create an new one, just in case

Eh?  What are you on?  Look: you told the system to plant daisies.  The
system tells you it can't find any daisies to plant.  Well, give it some
then!

Install the parport_pc module. Or at least look for it.

: there's an extra byte hidden in there somewhere that makes
: it unreadable, or that parport_pc has been trashed.

Do you have it? The system thinks you don't!

: Does anyone have any ideas from what you've seen here?

Install the parport_pc.o module, and run depmod -ae.

Peter

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From: Randy Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv,rec.video.satellite.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x,comp.infosystems.www.browsers,comp.infosystems.www.browswers.misc
Subject: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:33:49 +0000


Simply amazing.

I just tried to visit http://www.dishnetwork.com, but every 
time it crashed Netscape within visiting one, or at most two 
links off the main page.  (I'm running Linux Redhat 6.0, 
Netscape 4.61, and I'm no newbie to Living Without Windows.)

On the main page DN states that they DO NOT SUPPORT Netscape.
Period.  If you want to visit their site, "You should download 
Internet Explorer".  They claim that it's Netscape's problem 
that their site crashes and burns and there's nothing they can 
do about it.

UNbelievable.  So much for selling Dish Network systems to 
all the AOL subscribers (who use Netscape).

I bought a Dish Network system about a year ago.  I *had* 
planned on renewing my subscription, and I wanted to see what 
their current services and hardware looked like.

But I've changed my mind.  If any vendor has the hubris to state
that they won't serve me unless I CHANGE OPERATING SYSTEMS, or 
that they're unable to master the trivial technology of creating 
web pages that work with more than ONE browser, they clearly don't 
care if they lose millions of potential customers.  And of course,
they're incompetent idiots.

Is Dish Network this clueless on other topics?  I find this
attitude to be incredibly self serving and short sighted.  Do
their stockholders know this?  Does *Rupert Murdoch* know this?

So...  Anybody want to buy a Dish Network system? I'm switching to 
Direct TV.

    Randy

--
Randy Crawford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.engin.umich.edu/labs/cpc

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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: National Geographic
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:20:38 -0800

    I don't know about this one, but if past experience is a guide this
stuff
will be, more likely than not, Microsoft-only. A few days go, much to
my dismay, the idiots from the Planetary Society sent me a CD with their
whole member roster and some bells and whistles; and, guess what? It
only works under Windows (TM).

    I was on the verge of discontinuing my membership and support over
this: I do not understand why a group like the PS, always starved for
money and support, gets in bed with that most foul monopolistic company,
especially for something like this, which would have been dead easy to do
in an essentially OS-independent way.

Guy Albertelli wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking at getting the 110 years of National Geographic CD/DVD set
> but I wanted to know how useful it was under linux.
>
> 1) Are the files in some readable format?
> 2) Can they be reasonably searched some how?
>
> 3) Failing this how well does it run under WINE?
>
> I am also curious about the Mad magazine collection.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]           BubbleWrap(R) is a registered trademark
> Guy Albertelli -8-9-6-         of the Sealed Air Corporation


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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Digi Board components compatible?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:23:07 -0800


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    I talked to the Digiboard people one year ago about an X.25 card,
and they did have
Linux support for it.  They seemed to be quite proactive when it came to
supporting
Linux.


Kerry Cox wrote:

> I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only supported by SCO
> UNIX.  I would like to know if it is now supported under Linux.  It is
> a Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and then connects to the
> Digiboard with the 8 ports.  If this is supported under Linux, we
> could move to a different platform. Thanks.
> KJ
>
> --
> .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-.
> | Kerry J. Cox         KSL                              |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]    System Administrator             |
> | (801) 575-7771       http://www.ksl.com               |
> | ICQ# 37681165        http://quasi.ksl.com/linux/      |
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I talked to the Digiboard people one year ago about
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<p>Kerry Cox wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have an 8-port digiboard that is supposedly only
supported by SCO UNIX.&nbsp; I would like to know if it is now supported
under Linux.&nbsp; It is a Digi board that sits in an ISA card slot and
then connects to the Digiboard with the 8 ports.&nbsp; If this is supported
under Linux, we could move to a different platform. Thanks.
<br>KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: LINUX or not?
Date: 24 Mar 2000 23:37:25 GMT

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:31:31 GMT, 
 th499 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First I would like to thank all those people who replied because it would 
> be impolite for me not to thank you all.  

My answer someone else stole: use what your friends use.  I will add an
addendum though.  If you don't have Linux-using friends, get some.
See http://www.linux.com/lug/ for a Linux User Group near you.

> For David...What do you mean by flavor?  It sounds like you're talking 
> about one of them Imacs.  I use my computer to communicate and frequent 
> business related job.  Can't spare any extra memory.  Anyways, please 
> don't be too abstract on your writing.  

Flavor is a common word for the different distributions.  They're mostly
the same; the differences will be what specific versions of packages and
what packages come with it and how pretty the installer is.  To stretch
the ice cream metaphor, it's how many and what kind of nuts and the
picture on the box.

Once you're installed, the differences are pretty minimal: everyone uses
the same kernels, the same libc (the standard C library) -- well, mostly
anyway.  There may be a few things that differ, like default look and
feel and where some configuration files are.  (Corel, for example, looks
and feels very much like Windows... but it's really Debian GNU/Linux
with some fancy duds.)

Look up a local Linux User Group and attend a meeting.  Play with a
couple Linux machines (no doubt they won't agree on "this distribution
beats all others") and listen to them gripe about which they hate and
which they love, and more importantly, -why- they hate and love each.

It really is a personal decision which one is right for you.

> David .. wrote:
> > 
> > As you may expect a number of replies, I will make this short.  Once
> > linux is installed Linux is Linux.  The flavor you choose is like ice
> > cream. What flavor do you like??

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: Duane Evenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mustek hand scanner driver
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:23:50 -0700

I need a scanner driver to work with a Mustek GS-400 and IF-940
interface card (transfers data via DMA). I have a 2.2.14 kernel. Has
anyone ported scan-driver-0.1.8 from the 2.0 kernel to 2.2?

Eric Chang apparently wrote a patch for scan-driver to work on a IF-960
card, does anyone know where I can get this patch?

How much trouble is it to make sane support hand held scanners (if at
all)?

Thanks in advance,
Duane Evenson


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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:40:58 -0500
From: John E Suche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do I find path for an rpm?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> There's an rpm on my linux box, but I can't find it. I need to specify
> the path of the rpm in order to install it, but no query will allow me
> to do that. (the rpm is for mod_perl). How is that done?
>
> Robert Nagle, Austin, Texas
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I assume that the rpm is on your system, but you just don't know where,
right ?

try doing this as root (there are some places in the directory tree you
can't hit as a user).

open a terminal window, the type the following commands:

    cd /
    find . -name "mod_perl*.rpm" -print

Be sure to use the quotes at both ends of the string and you should be
able to find it this way.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: NETSCAPE FONTS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:45:19 GMT

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:04:53 -0500, G. R. Gaudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Why are the fonts so small in Netscape? Is there a way of overriding
>the settings in preferences.js to get Navigator to display bigger
>fonts.  I've got the browser configured to use helvetica (Adobe) 18
>points, but I keep getting these small fonts that are hard to read in
>the browser.  Websites like Freshmeat are displayed with these small,
>hard to read, fonts.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU.html (De-uglification)
http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
http://216.78.197.97/xstuff/xfs.html (for Redhat)

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

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Subject: Re: scsi tape compatibility problem?
From: Robb Aley Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:47:44 -0500

Another possibility is that the first drive used hardware compression
and the second drive does not recognize it. I am having this problem
with HP and Sony DAT drives right now.

-- 
Robb Aley Allan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]      [EMAIL PROTECTED]     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helical Design          Myron A. Minskoff, Inc. ACM

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: NETSCAPE FONTS
Date: 24 Mar 2000 23:46:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:04:53 -0500, G. R. Gaudreau wrote:
 >Why are the fonts so small in Netscape? Is there a way of overriding the
 >settings in preferences.js to get Navigator to display bigger fonts.

Try this in your ~/.Xdefaults:

Netscape*documentFonts.xResolution*iso-8859-1: 100
Netscape*documentFonts.yResolution*iso-8859-1: 100
Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement: 5

Bob T.

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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NETSCAPE FONTS
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:37:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"G. R. Gaudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why are the fonts so small in Netscape? Is there a way of overriding
the
> settings in preferences.js to get Navigator to display bigger fonts.
> I've got the browser configured to use helvetica (Adobe) 18 points,
but
> I keep getting these small fonts that are hard to read in the browser.
> Websites like Freshmeat are displayed with these small, hard to read,
> fonts.
>

Click "Use my default fonts" in the font preferences.

/A

--
# Andreas Kähäri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>
# Scandinavinans, without us "thursday" wouldn't exist!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do I find path for an rpm?
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:50:04 -0600

One of my favorites...
>From the command prompt, use the "find" command.  Type "man find" for all of
its usage.

I believe it goes something like "find <path start point> -name
<filename> -print"

So if your file name is "mod_perl.rpm" and you want to start searching from
the root, your command would be:
find / -name mod_perl.rpm -print

Of course, if you have an especially large file system, you might want to
run the process in the background by appending " &" to the end of your
command.

Hope you find your file...

Greg


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8bgqi2$p25$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There's an rpm on my linux box, but I can't find it. I need to specify
> the path of the rpm in order to install it, but no query will allow me
> to do that. (the rpm is for mod_perl). How is that done?
>
> Robert Nagle, Austin, Texas
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: Oliver Wahlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: keyboard capture: xkeys?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:18:12 +0100

On a security related webpage I read something about a program called
xkeys that is able to capture or lets better say sniff the events of the
keyboard and give them out in a certain form.

Does anyone know this program?
Where can I find it?

-- 
Oliver Wahlen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Ohlsson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Reply-To: Stefan Ohlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Mar 2000 01:21:18 +0100

Randy Crawford wrote:
>Simply amazing.
>
>I just tried to visit http://www.dishnetwork.com, but every 
>time it crashed Netscape within visiting one, or at most two 
>links off the main page.  (I'm running Linux Redhat 6.0, 
>Netscape 4.61, and I'm no newbie to Living Without Windows.)
>
This site is good... as an example for how NOT to make a site.
The layout is awful. Maybe because I have no java nor javascript.
It seems it's possible to navigate without it though.
All images lack ALT-tags. Lots of images lacks WIDTH and HEIGHT
attributes.

Anyways, here are some things to think about when designing a site
that I think are important;

Important Rule #1:
Java and Javascript should not be required to navigate a site.

Important Rule #2:
All images should have ALT,WIDTH and HEIGHT attributes.

Important Rule #3:
At no time should more than 3 frames be displayed, preferrably not more
than 2.

/Stefan
-- 
[ Stefan Ohlsson ] · http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95son/ · [ ICQ# 17519554 ]

Lenina Huxely: Let's go blow this guy.
John Spartan:  Away! Let's go blow this guy *away*!
/Demolition Man

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:28:29 -0500
From: John E Suche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Default Home Directories for pam_smb

Jason Corbett wrote:

> I am currently trying to make it so that users in a windows NT domain can
> log onto a linux machine.  I am able to get pam_smb to authenticate users.
> The main problem that I am having is that there is no home directory for
> the users.  There is a directory available on a smb share that could be
> used as a home directory.  I don't know how to get linux to automatically
> mount the directory upon login.
>
>   I am using Corel linux which creates a passwd entry and puts the home
> directory into /home/kdm/'username'.  I was wondering if anyone knew how
> they got linux to do that.  If I could modify the program to mount their
> home directory via smb using the username and login password and domain
> name.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

There are a number of things that you need to do.

1.  If you don't have Samba installed, go ahead and install it.  This gives
the Win NT users file and printer sharing on the Linux box.  When it is
configured it will show up in Win NT's network neighborhood.

2.  Read the man pages for smb.conf (man smb.conf).  There is also a good
reference book recently published by O'Reilly and Associates titled "Using
Samba" (ISBN 1-56592-449-5).  You might want to take a look at it.  It goes
into great detail on configuring every aspect of the Samba server and more
than I can cover here.

3.  You will need to edit smb.conf (its in /etc on Red Hat, don't know about
Corel).

Browse smb.conf .  In the [global] section make sure that the following are
set

    encrypt passwords = yes
    smb password file = /etc/smbpasswd  (this is where it is on Red Hat)

In the [homes] section should at least the two following entries:

[homes]
    browseable = no
    writeable = yes

4.  You need to make sure that the two Samba daemons - smbd and nmbd get
started at boot.  This can be configured with linuxconf.

5.  Create user accounts on the Linux box for the people you want to grant
access using either adduser or linuxconf (the user name and password should
be the same as on the Win NT system.

6.  After the user accounts are made do the same thing for Samba running
smbpasswd.  Again the user name and passwords are the same.

7.  After its all working, when a Win NT user logs into the Windows NT and
then goes to Network Neighborhood, they will see the Samba Server listed.
Double click on the Samba server name and they will see their home directory
on the Linux box.

Once you get this figured out you have a lot of other possibilities as to how
the Samba server can be configured.  Again, I strongly suggest the book i
mentioned above.

Regards,

John Suche


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Loukidelis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:59:22 GMT

gnucash is too buggy (I tried, it crashed on me several times, and it
trashed my data).  Moreover, it doesn't have the features I need for
personal financial management (yet).  As for vmware, why should I
spend the money when I already have windoze?

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:58:19 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Henrik Becker writes:
>> For Money and Quicken (why both?) use VMWare,...
>
>Use gnucash.
>
>-- 
>John Hasler
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Dancing Horse Hill
>Elmwood, Wisconsin


-- 
John Loukidelis
I am not your lawyer; this is not legal advice

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Loukidelis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 00:59:22 GMT

I haven't tried xfinance; I'll check it out.  But does it download
transactions from Canadian banks, obtain quotes on Canadian equities
and mutual funds, support tax cost tracking for registered retirement
savings plans?  Etc. etc.

Neither StarOffice nor LyX support real inter-operability with Word,
and unfortunately, in my business, Word is a standard that we all have
to live with.  Moreover, while I like LyX, it just doesn't have the
flexibility that I need in a word processor (I know -- it's *not* a
word processor blah blah blah).

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:50:42 -0500, Allin Cottrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>John Loukidelis wrote:
>> 
>> >What the heck you want to run that doesn't have a Linux version?
>> 
>> MS Money, Quicken, MS Word...
>
>GnuCash, xfinance, LyX, StarOffice.
>
>-- 
>Allin Cottrell
>Department of Economics
>Wake Forest University, NC


-- 
John Loukidelis
I am not your lawyer; this is not legal advice

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From: Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I Broke It - Final Update
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:12:27 -0800

In lieu of any advice, I went ahead and pursued the easiest
solution to my problem with the printer first.  I renamed
/etc/conf.modules and then created a new one.  I rebooted
and the printer started right up.

--
Raquel
=============================================================
Freedom to be your best means nothing unless you're willing to do your best.
  --Colon Powell




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From: "Mickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LETS MAKE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 01:06:50 GMT





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