Linux-Misc Digest #14, Volume #24 Sat, 1 Apr 00 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
Can't get xdm to provide a menu of hosts ("G. A. Propf")
Re: autoloading of scsi modules (Bob van der Poel)
Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations (Steffen Bardolatzi)
Re: Gnome PPP setup utility ("Tom Hoffmann")
Re: What should I buy? (Rod Smith)
Re: Applixware or StarOffice (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Applixware or StarOffice (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Precision of Linux's libm??? (Johan Kullstam)
Distro Dystopia (David Steuber)
Re: Soundblaster Live problem ("John Niesz")
Re: Error reading for memory ("David ..")
Re: What is the best way to mirror my Web/mail/FTP server (bill davidsen)
How to manage Apache logs (Jonathan)
Strange KDE lib location for RH6.1 (Daniel Ng)
about different rpm type (eddy)
Re: about different rpm type (Dowe Keller)
Re: compare big files with kind of checksum (Christopher Browne)
Re: What should I buy? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: Duplex printing (Timothy J. Lee)
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From: "G. A. Propf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Can't get xdm to provide a menu of hosts
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:13:57 -0500
I have an old 486 and a 686 and I want the 486 to function as an
Xterminal for the 686. Both run RedHat 6.1 and I have xdm running on
both. I have lines like
* #any host can get a login window
* CHOOSER BROADCAST #any indirect host can get a
chooser
on the 'terminal' machine and
* CHOOSER BROADCAST #any indirect host can get a
chooser
on the 686. The 486 does not provide a host menu. It just shows a
login window and you when you log in you are at the localhost. Anybody
know what's wrong. I read the man page on xdm and looked on the web for
info but what's out there seems to be from a few years ago.
--
Moon is following me, must...run...faster...
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From: Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: autoloading of scsi modules
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:15:37 -0700
Bill Putney wrote:
>
> Well, you could add a line to one of your startup scripts that will load
> the module every time your machine boots. If you're using Red Hat you
Problem with this solution is that the scanner has to be on for this to
work. If the scanner is off, then the module gets loaded, but doesn't
work. To get it to work you have to '/sbin/modprobe aha152x' after
turning it on.
> may want to add '/sbin/modprobe aha152x' to the end of /etc/rc.d/init.d/
> rc.local. If you don't want the module loaded every time you boot you
> could write a little script that loads the module and starts xsane.
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> /sbin/modprobe aha152x
> /path/to/xsane
>
> Mabye call it 'start-xsane' or something similar.
Good idea...which would work so long as I'd doing everything as root.
Unfortunately modprobe won't let a user load a module.
What I really want to know is why the promised auto-magic isn't working!
Surely someone on this newsgroup has the answer!!!!!!!!
Thank, Bill, for the suggestions. I really do appreciate it.
> HTH
>
> -Bill
>
> Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : I'm having a bear of a time trying to get scsi module loading working. I
> : have a cheapie aha152 card with a microtek scanner attached. This combo
> : does work okay, even though it does tend to hog the bus when
> : scanning....oh well, another day and I may have some more $s to put into
> : this system.
>
> : I'm using the xsane/sane package for the scanner.
>
> : But, on to the problem. I have the following in my /etc/conf.modules:
>
> : alias scsi_hostadapter aha152x
> : post-install sg modprobe aha152x
> : options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9
>
> : With a 2.2.x kernel my understanding (obviously wrong) when xsane is
> : started up it should load the aha152x module? It isn't. When I start
> : xsane I get the message 'no devices available' popup. So...what do I
> : need to do to get this working.
>
> : If I use 'modprobe aha152x' then the aha152x module is loaded, and then
> : when I run xsane the sg module is loaded (and it appears to unload
> : later).
>
> : So, how do I get the aha152x module to load? I guess I'm missing a magic
> : command in my conf.modules file, but can't figure what.
>
> : BTW, I'm doing all this as root right now, so permissions shouldn't be a
> : problem (that will all come later).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Bardolatzi)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
Subject: Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 03:23:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:01:33 +0100, Donal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to set up a mailing list with about 200 entries. Whatever I try
> I hit a brick wall. It looks as if Smail does not want to allow external
> mail or commands from /etc/aliases.
>
Did you set the variable to allow to send to more then 100 recipients at one
time? The max. default is 100.
smtp_max_recipients=200
> Majordomo. I have put the pipe command in my aliases file but Smail gives a
> security violation error ERR104 and doesn't run the majordomo wrapper.
>
> Also tried a file in /etc/smail/lists with the addresses in seperated by
> commas. I get the same security violation error if I include
> "testlist:include: /etc/smail/lists/testlist" in my /etc/aliases. I am not
> even sure if this is the correct approach for mailing lists.
>
I didn't try the list's file yet but does the Majordomo is running on the IP of
the localhost e.g. do you have set:
smtp_remote_allow=localIP:IP
Else SMail might think someone wants to send spam and refuses the connection
with "Security Violation". Does Majardomo's domain name is entered as being local
in SMails configuration (the IP number is *not* enough)?
hostname=localhost:domainname
or so.
> I would prefer to use Majordomo, as we could then offer people automatic
> subscribe/unsubscribe.
> I have read all the man pages and searched the internet with no success.
> Smail 3.2 on Suse 6.1
man smail-config might help ...
> Can anybody help?
> Thanks.
> --
> Donal McDonnell
>
>
>
Steffen
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome PPP setup utility
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:40:16 GMT
You need to put your domain search and nameserver info in
/etc/resolv.conf. The PPP configuration utility does not do this for
you. A typical /etc/resolv.con file looks like this:
search worldnet.att.com
nameserver1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver2 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx are the IP addresses of the primary and secondary
nameservers. Hope this helps.
In article <8c2tfc$bif$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I tried setting up my IP dialup using Gnome's PPP GUI utility, but when
> I dial in DNS isn't working.
>
> I can ping my DNS servers by IP, but name lookups fail, so things like
> Netscape are hosed.
>
> Is this a bug with the tool, or am I not doing something right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Cico
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: What should I buy?
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:41:16 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
th499 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Should I buy Mandrade 7, Redhat 6.2, or Debian?
There's no simple answer to that question. For my comments on all these
distributions (well, up to Red Hat 6.0; I haven't tried 6.1 or 6.2 yet),
see my web page:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:54:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant Edwards wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Student Labs wrote:
>
>>Which is better in the following categories:
>
>12) Licensing
>
>Does Applix still do obnoxious, lame, evil, annoying,
[...]
Licencing rambling removed ...
[...]
No, not the Linux version.
Ta',
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:54:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>And verily, didst Grant Edwards hastily scribble thusly:
>> Not that I'm still bitter over that little lapse in judgement
>> on my part (buying SW with a node-locked license, that is.)
>
>Node locked? Does that mean it fixes itself to one individual computers IP
>address and won't work on any other???
>
>GOD that's bad... (If that's what node locking means... Never heard of it
>before)
It is not bad, it is about not trusting people one cannot trust .. people 8-]
Cheers,
Juergen
--
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\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Precision of Linux's libm???
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:56:23 GMT
Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >correct me if i'm wrong but
> >1) internally, the ia32 is a bit faster with smaller
> > float setting.
>
> Shouldn't be in terms of calculation, but may be in terms
> of moving data between the FPU and memory. My old book on
> Intel 8087 assembler says all internal operations are 80
> bit, so even if data is stored as 32-bit floats, the FPU
> will convert them to 80 bits before using them.
the FPU can be put into 64 bit mode by setting the proper bit in its
control word.
> >2) 10 byte quantities do not align on power of two
> > boundaries very well. using 80 bits, choose your poison:
> > - double rounding
> > - aligned with lots of wasted space
> > - packed with poor performance
>
> But if the bulk of or the entire data for a particular
> calculation were stored in the CPU cache, would there be a
> significant performance problem with packed data? The CPU
> would load/store several KB of memory at a time, so the
> only plausible drag would come from cache-FPU load/store
> operations. [Granted not all Intel-based linux machines
> have CPU memory caches.]
why do we bother with data alignment at all? 64 bit double-precision
load/store on aligned memory is much faster than unaligned. why does
gcc bother otherwise?
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Subject: Distro Dystopia
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:59:59 GMT
<rant>
Ok, I've been using SuSE since 5.0 came out. I am currently running
SuSE 6.2 and 6.4 is comming out soon. I've always been hapy to
recomend SuSE to others because it is easy to get it going if you are
new to Linux like I was/am.
Well, today I am running into problems that seem to be related to
running a commercial distribution.
I downloaded QT 2.0.2 for application development. I figured it made
sense to build against the latest release version. Unfortunatly, I
had trouble building it. It turns out that Xlib.h and a few other
minor include files are not where they should be or are absent all
together.
Ok, so I simply need to install the XFree86 source right? No
problem. Oh, there is a dif file included. No problem. Patch fails
fairly early on in the process. Problem. What am I doing wrong?
This is a rant, so the question is purely rhetorical.
I'm running the 2.2.10 kernel. No big deal. So I am a few patch
levels behind. Of course SuSE 6.2 ships with OSS for sound. I have
the <sarcasm>wonderful</sarcasm> AWE 64 Gold ISA PnP sound card on my
machine. OSS has been the only way to get the card to work. OSS,
inspite of its name, is not free. Why is the word 'open' even used in
a product name when the product is not free? So here is the catch
with OSS. It is for users of the SuSE distribution it was shipped
on. Upgrading the kernel requires a reinstall.
But wait, there is more fun! SuSE 6.2 shipped with an out of date
GCC. 6.4 fixes that. I am not able to pay for food _and_ an upgrade
at this point. No more on that. Anyway, it turned out to be easy to
simply download and build the latest GCC from the GNU ftp site. Now I
have two versions of GCC on my system. My brain is of very limited
capacity and this confuses me. Which include files will be used? I
don't know! I put the new version in /usr/local/bin. The SuSE
version is in /usr/bin. I can fix the path to put /usr/local/bin
ahead of /usr/bin, but that probably doesn't settle the include file
problem. Or the lib file problem.
What about those includes and libs? Directories with these names are
scattered all over the place! Linux has its include files. X has
include files. GCC has include files. You've got libs all over the
place. Binutils. What are binutils? There is no rpm called
binutils. There is an rpm that contains binutils, but it is called
something else.
I hate rpms. What the hell was wrong with tar files? Isn't there a
file system heirarchy standard now that tells us where different files
should go? Aren't there ways of dealing with version issues?
Dependencies? Ah yes. It makes no sense to install A and B. Or you
need D, E, and F for C to work. Fine. Tell me that stuff in the
INSTALL file.
I'm heading over to that www.diylinux.com site. I thought the notion
was a waste of time as recently as a few days ago. Now I am not so
sure. I _would_ like to know about the init process. I would like to
know about the /etc files. Most of all, I would like to be able to
upgrade from the original, unpatched source.
Does this mean there is no room for packaged distributions? No, not
at all. I just think they should all follow some standards so that it
isn't impossible to build a single, distribution neutral release of a
large application.
</rant>
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.packetphone.org/
"Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't
immune to bullets"
-- The Brigader, "Dr. Who"
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From: "John Niesz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Live problem
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:05:39 -0500
> In your conf.modules file add this line at the bottom:
>
> alias sound emu10k1
>
> Then you can probably do the modprobe emu10k1 to get it started without
> a reboot.
i have an SBLive Value and did that, and the SBLive works fine, but only
when I remove all lines in conf.modules regarding my SB32 which I still want
to use. How can I use both of these cards at the same time? (ie, SB32
outputting to a headset, SBLive outputting to speakers)
For the record, I'm running RH6.0, with a PCI SBLive and an ISA SB32. The
SB32 worked fine until I installed the second card and added the necessary
lines to conf.modules.
Thanks!
John
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error reading for memory
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:17:19 -0600
I hate to disagree but the following is directly out of a RedHat book.
boot =
map=
install=
prompt=
timeout=
image=
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd-x.x.xx.img
read-only
append="mem=xxM" # xx= amount of memory.
Flames go to /dev/null.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: What is the best way to mirror my Web/mail/FTP server
Date: 1 Apr 2000 03:35:17 GMT
In article <38bb24ba$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I have a Web/mail/FTP server that I would like to mirror for redundancy.
| What is the best way to do this? It doesn't have to be mirrored real-time
| but I want it to be updated every 24 hours minimum.
There are a number of mirror or "rsync" programs, or you can combine
cpio with ssh to send the data compressed and cyrpted (if that's an
advantage).
Something like:
cd myfs; find . -ctime -1 | cpio -o -Hcrc |
ssh myuser@mirror "cd myfs; cpio -idm"
This is a nice way to do it, using the "dump" program also works really
well. Note that you want ctime, not mtime, to catch permission changes.
The last time I used rsync it was good for files but didn't protect
ownership, inode times, permissions, etc, in all cases. Particularly on
directories.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
resisting temptation and missing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to manage Apache logs
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:02:15 GMT
Hi,
I would like to know what is the best way to manage Apache's
access_logs files? Suppose i need to get a monthly analysis report on
hits. What i'm doing now is to stop the httpd daemon, backup the
access_log to another place, and run 'echo 0' to the original file to
clear up the logs. (Then, i would download the access_log file to my PC
and analyse it using analog) Or is there a better way(e.g. automating
by cron) that you guys use? Thanks for sharing any tips & tricks.
Regards,
jonathan
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Daniel Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Strange KDE lib location for RH6.1
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:37:00 -0800
Because of the unusual KDE include and library location for RedHat
6.1, I have a hard time
in compiling many of the free software applications in the net.
For example, I could not compile the kdbg source file. Any suggestion?
Daniel
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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 12:25:49 +0800
From: eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: about different rpm type
In the name of rpm package, I always i386, i586, and noarch. what's the
different between them. And I am using RH6.1 in Intel PC, which one
should I use ?
Thanks
Eddy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: about different rpm type
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:48:21 GMT
On Sat, 01 Apr 2000 12:25:49 +0800, eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the name of rpm package, I always i386, i586, and noarch. what's the
>different between them. And I am using RH6.1 in Intel PC, which one
>should I use ?
>Thanks
>
>Eddy
>
The i386 means that the binary is compiled to run on an 80386 processor.
If it i486 or i586 then the binary is optimised for those chips.
Generaly, for intel based machines, you can run binaries compiled for
newer processors than yours, but it gains nothing (i.e. your better off
running i686 executables only if you really have a 686 in your machine.)
You see a lot of rpms compiled for i386s because thats the lowest common
denominator when it comes to running Linux on Intel hardware, and
because (for the lion's share of programs) you really can't notice the
difference between a binary compiled for a 386 and one compiled for
a Pentium.
Note there are other architectures supported by Linux so you may run
into rpms for alpha, ppc, mk86, etc. BTW: noarch means architecture
independent (I think?).
--
dowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
"Virtual" means never knowing where your next byte is coming from.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: compare big files with kind of checksum
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:53:21 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when peter pilsl would say:
>
>I copy BIG files from one machine to another over a bad
>network (~30minutes per file) and want to check after if the
>targetfile is really the same then the original.
>I cant verify accros the net so I was thinking about creating
>some kind of checksum (I just remembered this from old
>assembler-time, where you had them to enter the code
>correctely) of each file and then compare the checksum and if
>the checksum is long enough, chances for the files beeing
>equal when the checksum is equal should be ok.
>
>any idea where to get such checksum-thing ?
It is highly likely that you already have the utility "md5sum," which
is one of the better options for Good Checksums.
--
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: What should I buy?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:54:02 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when th499 would say:
>Should I buy Mandrade 7, Redhat 6.2, or Debian?
You haven't given any information to indicate why anyone should
consider one preferable over another for your purposes.
You might want to indicate what it is you want to do with your
system.
For instance, if you want to do development work, there is some
advantage to using Debian, as it has, preconfigured, an almost
unimaginable bounty of different sorts of development tools.
On the other hand, if you want to do "desktop application" stuff, and
have a "KDE bias," you might find Mandrake somewhat preferable. (And
should also consider SuSE.)
There are other hands as well; if you want to put in a web server that
needs to be highly available, it might be a good idea to look at
TurboLinux Cluster Server.
Red Hat is good option if you hold a "GNOME bias." And there's a lot
of books out there about Red Hat Linux.
Another thought: You might want to head to one of the CD vendors:
<http://www.linuxcentral.com>
<http://www.cheapbytes.com>
<http://www.linuxmall.com>
<http://www.lsl.com>
and look to a "sampler" package.
A commendable approach would be to order $2 CDs for several
distributions, and perhaps throw in a book (should you need further
documentation).
Try out those several distributions, and see which you find
preferable. And figure out of there are any differences in the degree
to which your particular set of hardware is supported.
*Then* it would make sense to get one of the "boxed sets," with the
frills, "office" software (e.g. - like Star Office and such), and
spend $35 in order to provide about $5 support to the continuing
development of the distribution that proved to be your favorite.
--
You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if
the package says, "Open somewhere else"?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxdistributions.html>
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't delete #@$!!*&! .config file
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:09:33 -0700
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:47:33 -0700, Patrick O'Neil
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> [much snippage]
[...]
> >system). I tried changing the group of the file (the owner is root
> >and the group was/is lp) to root but am not permitted. I get a message
> >that I am not a member of group root. WHAT?! I am running as root so
> >yes I AM a member of the root group.
> >I cannot get rid of this file and yet it MUST go. How do I force the
> >system to accept the fact that I am root, which makes me GOD...
>
> "debugfs" is your friend, if you haven't tried that already. (you didn't
> mention it, though the "immutable" bit made me think.) Sounds like
> something... weird happened at some point; might want to e2fsck the
> partition after terminating the file with extreme prejudice. HTH,
Doh!! I rechecked it and the immutable flag WAS set. Sheeit...that
explains a few other problems I experienced too.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Duplex printing
Date: 1 Apr 2000 05:03:26 GMT
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
James Hammerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|I recently discovered that the departmental printer (an HP
|laserjet8000) supports duplex (double sided) printing. However I don't
|know how to access this facility from within linux (and haven't got
|much joy by asking the linux users in the department on this front
|either). Can anyone help?
Somewhere on HP's web site are the PCL and Postscript commands
needed to make this printer do duplex (you may need to write a
print filter that check to see if a file is Postscript or not
in order to put the correct duplexing commands in it before
sending it to the printer).
But really, the printer should have duplexing on by default to
make things nicer for the users (easier to deal with duplexed
printouts) and save paper (money). Only in the rare case of
printing things like labels is non-duplex preferable.
--
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee timlee@
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. netcom.com
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
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sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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