Linux-Misc Digest #19, Volume #24                 Sat, 1 Apr 00 18:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems (asage)
  Re: RedHat 6.2 and XEmacs (Prasanth Kumar)
  Re: dumm x86 question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  FS Toshiba SatPro 430CDT w/48megs turn it into Linux $520 (Christian)
  Re: Bash prompting... (Dances With Crows)
  John Terpstra to speak about Samba and Turbolinux in Los Angeles, 8  (Dan Kegel)
  Re: Version numbering question ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Distro Dystopia ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: dumm x86 question... (Paul Kimoto)
  X won't start, font error message, help! ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Linux RAID support on Compaq Servers (John Jensen)
  TURKEY (Ali GÜZEL)
  installing >=2 GCCs (was Re: Distro Dystopia) (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: X won't start, font error message, help! (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: X won't start, font error message, help! (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Bash prompting... (Erik de Castro Lopo)

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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:09:56 -0500

hi

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, asage wrote:
> > I'm trying to compile kernel 2.3.51.
>
> Why?  This kernel is seventeen days out of date.  You should try
> 2.3.99-pre3, the second pre-patch of 2.3.99-pre4, or whatever is newer.

Is kernel 2.3.51 a little bit more tested and true than 2.3.99, or maybe 2.3.99
would have more support?  (has there been trouble with 2.3.51?)

> Remember that 2.3.* kernels are still in development and it is not unusual
> for things to be broken.
>
> >                                      I read the Configure.help file
> > right through, and took note of all recommendations.  I've tried to
> > configure this thing twice now, and have gotten the same error:
> >
> > drivers/parport/parport.z(parport_pc.o): In function 'parport_pc_init':
> > parport_pc.o(.text.init+0x107): undefined reference to
> > 'parport_pc_init_pci'

yes, sorry... it should be 'drivers/parport/parport.a(parort_pc.o): ......    I
realize that it's important to quote the error message correctly.

so how about this error message?



>
>
> Is this the correct error message?  I don't see any files with suffix ".z".
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--
"Sure, Bill Gates may have ninety-four billion dollars,
 but is he happy? He IS?? AH, SHIT!!" {Dennis Miller}



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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 and XEmacs
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:23:32 GMT

Andy9701 wrote:
> 
> I just installed RedHat 6.2 yesterday, and I'm having some problems
> with Emacs, I think.  Before I had RedHat 6.2, I was running 6.0, and
> when I ran Emacs it came up in a nice window, with a nice font, colors,
> etc.  However, now when I run it, it still works, but it doesn't look
> as nice.  I think that I didn't install XEmacs, just emacs, but I'm not
> entirely positive (I did click to select Emacs during setup, but I
> didn't install individual packages inside it).  Do you think that is
> why I'm not getting a "pretty" version of emacs in a window?  If that's
> the case, is XEmacs available from the gnu ftp site?
<snip>

Do you happen to be using KDE? If so, try disabling the "applying
fonts and color to non-KDE app" feature and see if that helps. If this
solves the problem but you still want to enable that feature for other
apps, let me know and I can explain how to fix it better.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dumm x86 question...
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:42:08 GMT

Hey Paul, the 3.3.5 version was put there on the install and I am not
sure of where the default unpacks in redhat 6.0, do you have any ideas
on where it unpacks, thanks...

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8c5eac$64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hey I am trying to put on the patch from 3.3.5 to 3.3.6 and it says
to
> > run the patch from the directory that contains the "xc" directory,
well
> > where the hell is the "xc" directory on a vanilla install, thanks...
>
> It is wherever you unpacked the X 3.3.5 source code. Maybe you need to
> get and unpack it. (If so, it would probably be easier to get the
3.3.6
> source code.)
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian)
Subject: FS Toshiba SatPro 430CDT w/48megs turn it into Linux $520
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:52:19 +0100

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Bash prompting...
Date: 01 Apr 2000 16:38:48 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:01:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I want to set my bash prompt to display the machine name in bold (i.e. 
>My prompt in bash is currently set by:
>PS1="[\u@\h \w] > "
>but I dont know how to set bold as an option. I notice the man page says 
>that   \[   will begin a sequence of non-printing characters... Is there 
>a terminal control sequence that will make the prompt text bold?

PS1="\u@\\033[1m\h\\033[m:\w\\$ "

HTH, HAND

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: la.seminars
Subject: John Terpstra to speak about Samba and Turbolinux in Los Angeles, 8 
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:41:55 GMT

[Forwarded with changes from lalugs; http://www.lalugs.org ]

John Terpstra will be addressing a meeting of the LinuxAtLax LUG
(near LAX in Los Angeles) on Saturday April 8th at 10 AM.  
Linux installation help will be available; the meeting will run until 5pm.

John was instrumental in forming the Samba Team, and is the 
V.P. of Community Relations at TurboLinux. 
He will discuss technical aspects of Samba and TurboCluster Server, 
and TurboLinux's relationship with the Open-Source Community. 

Space is limited (the hall holds 110); 
please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you plan to attend. 
See http://www.linuxatlax.org/meetings.html for more info.

Samba is the well-known open source fileserver software that lets
Unix systems act as file servers to Microsoft workstations.
TurboCluster Server offers dynamic load balancing, service 
monitoring,  and automatic IP failover.  Anyone running a set
of busy web servers or Windows file servers would probably enjoy
this event.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Version numbering question
Date: 1 Apr 2000 21:49:24 GMT

Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Nikander wrote:
:> Most programs in the open source world have version numbers like
:> nn.nn.nn.  I know that the first one represents a major version, and
:> that the last one is minor fixes, but I was wondering if there was a

:> relate to the version numbers on source files assigned when you "cvs
:> commit" a file?  Or do the exact meanings of the numbers depend on
:                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:> whoever is leading the project?
:   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: Exactly.

Umpteen opportunities to pick up on you today, paul :-). You mean
"approximately".

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distro Dystopia
Date: 1 Apr 2000 21:47:37 GMT

Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber wrote:
:>  Anyway, it turned out to be easy to
:> simply download and build the latest GCC from the GNU ftp site.  Now I 
:> have two versions of GCC on my system.  My brain is of very limited
:> capacity and this confuses me.  Which include files will be used?  I
:> don't know!  I put the new version in /usr/local/bin.  The SuSE
:> version is in /usr/bin.  I can fix the path to put /usr/local/bin
:> ahead of /usr/bin, but that probably doesn't settle the include file
:> problem.  Or the lib file problem.

: Why is this a problem?  Both should look in /usr/include for the files

It's actually quite difficult to maintain several compilers on disk.
It usually involves slight meddling with their spec files. In the
case of gcc 2.7.2, it requires recompiling or editing the binary, as
it places /usr/local ahead of /usr/lib/gcc/blah/blah/2.7.2 in its
compiled-in search paths.

: taken from glibc.  Each should look in its own, version-specific directory
: (/usr/{local,}/lib/gcc-lib/i*-linux*/version_number) for gcc-specific
: files.

See above for an example of why its not always quite that straight
forward. One does need to develop some expertise here. Definitely
not newbie stuff, unless they get lucky (it can work out right, by
accident).

:>  Binutils.  What are binutils?

: The assembler, linker, and other support files.  These are documented in
: the binutils info pages.

Ritual crossings here.

:> I hate rpms.  What the hell was wrong with tar files?  Isn't there a

Nothing. As you noticed, rpms are an advertising gimmick that don't do
anything except  obscure dependencies by placing them in a binary
database that never corresponds to the facts anyway.  It has always beat
me as to what people see in them.

:> file system heirarchy standard now that tells us where different files 
:> should go?  Aren't there ways of dealing with version issues?
:> Dependencies?  Ah yes.  It makes no sense to install A and B.  Or you
:> need D, E, and F for C to work.  Fine. 

: Debian tries to take care of all your dependency needs:
: # apt-get update; apt-get install package_name

And works very well too. The only problems I have with apt-get and dpkg
are issues over nfs mounts, and dpkg not being silent enough to run
unattended every time. I think I'll be undertaking a project connected
with extending that kind of item soon.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: dumm x86 question...
Date: 1 Apr 2000 17:00:58 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[text reordered for sanity]

In article <8c5mut$9in$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In article <8c5eac$64$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Hey I am trying to put on the patch from 3.3.5 to 3.3.6 and it says to
>>> run the patch from the directory that contains the "xc" directory, well
>>> where the hell is the "xc" directory on a vanilla install, thanks...

>> It is wherever you unpacked the X 3.3.5 source code. Maybe you need to
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> get and unpack it. (If so, it would probably be easier to get the 3.3.6
>> source code.)

> Hey Paul, the 3.3.5 version was put there on the install and I am not
> sure of where the default unpacks in redhat 6.0, do you have any ideas
> on where it unpacks, thanks...

I don't know.  I now run Debian.  Once I compiled some of the XFree
distribution and the source code came in a tar file.  The patch files
that I know of apply to the *source code*.

No source code should be installed by default.  You would want it only
if you wanted to (re)compile something.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X won't start, font error message, help!
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:25:58 -0800

Something has happened to my X server (I'm using Mandrake 7.0).  When I try
to startx, it fails, and the error message I get says something like:

    cannot connect to font 'fixed'

I've tried playing with my font path, trying different installed fonts one
at a time, but I still get the same message.  What's wrong, and how do I fix
it?

Matt O.







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: HELP!! kernel configuration problems
Date: 1 Apr 2000 17:13:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, asage wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, asage wrote:
>>> I'm trying to compile kernel 2.3.51.
>> Why?  This kernel is seventeen days out of date.  You should try
>> 2.3.99-pre3, the second pre-patch of 2.3.99-pre4, or whatever is newer.

> Is kernel 2.3.51 a little bit more tested and true than 2.3.99, or maybe 2.3.99
> would have more support?  (has there been trouble with 2.3.51?)

-rw-r--r--   1 666      ftp        350850 Mar 11 00:38 patch-2.3.51.bz2
-rw-r--r--   1 666      ftp        821794 Mar 15 03:09 patch-2.3.99-pre1.bz2
-rw-r--r--   1 666      ftp        237449 Mar 19 19:20 patch-2.3.99-pre2.bz2
-rw-r--r--   1 666      ftp        416190 Mar 24 07:52 patch-2.3.99-pre3.bz2

Probably.  There is trouble with virtually every development kernel.  After
all, they are under _development_.  Note that 2.3.51 was obsolete after
four days.

If you want to run development kernels, you should follow the linux-kernel
mailing list (e.g., see http://www.kernelnotes.org/lnxlists/linux-kernel/)
or at least something like Kernel Traffic (http://kt.linuxcare.com/).

>>> drivers/parport/parport.z(parport_pc.o): In function 'parport_pc_init':
>>> parport_pc.o(.text.init+0x107): undefined reference to
>>> 'parport_pc_init_pci'

> it should be 'drivers/parport/parport.a(parort_pc.o): ......    I
> realize that it's important to quote the error message correctly.
>
> so how about this error message?

$ find /usr/src/linux-2.3.99-pre3/drivers/parport -type f -print |
   xargs egrep parport_pc_init_pci /dev/null
$ 

It looks like there is no symbol by the name parport_pc_init_pci in
2.3.99-pre3, so that error should not appear now.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux RAID support on Compaq Servers
Date: 1 Apr 2000 22:29:07 GMT

Ezio Paglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

: perhaps you already read the pages under
: http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/linux.html. We need to have answers
: to the same question in the future. If you get interesting answers, could
: you sent them to me.

I've got a new ProLiant ML350 (2x600MHz, 1G, Smart Array 221 w/ 4 drives).

I was able to get it up and running Red Hat 6.1.  I had an initial problem
getting Red Hat to see the Smart Array (RAID), but an email from Compaq
suggested moving the card.  I put it in the bottom (32 bit?) PCI slot
rather than the upper (64 bit?) PCI slot it had come in.

I was able to install Red Hat as I said, build a new kernel, added Oracle,
but now as I attempt to create a database I get a lockup.  Disk access
seems to stop.

I'm leaving questions around, in the hope that someone can tell me where
to look: hardware, software, me ... ?

John

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Subject: TURKEY
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:30:02 GMT

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: installing >=2 GCCs (was Re: Distro Dystopia)
Date: 1 Apr 2000 17:30:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8c5qpp$cel$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> It's actually quite difficult to maintain several compilers on disk.
> It usually involves slight meddling with their spec files. In the
> case of gcc 2.7.2, it requires recompiling or editing the binary, as
> it places /usr/local ahead of /usr/lib/gcc/blah/blah/2.7.2 in its
> compiled-in search paths.

Hmm, "gcc -v -S -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null" tells me

: #include "..." search starts here:
: #include <...> search starts here:
:  /usr/local/include
:  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.91.66/include
:  /usr/include
: End of search list.

So I don't see why you'd run into any problems _unless_ some (other)
GCC installs anything into /usr/local/include (or, in general,
$PREFIX/include).  I don't think that any of the egcs-maintained
GCCs do that.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: X won't start, font error message, help!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:53:55 GMT

On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:25:58 -0800, Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Something has happened to my X server (I'm using Mandrake 7.0).  When I
>try to startx, it fails, and the error message I get says something
>like:
>
>    cannot connect to font 'fixed'
>
>I've tried playing with my font path, trying different installed fonts
>one at a time, but I still get the same message.  What's wrong, and how
>do I fix it?

xfs?

 http://216.78.198.27/xstuff/xfs.html#trouble

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X won't start, font error message, help!
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:47:17 -0600

Matt O'Toole wrote:
> 
> Something has happened to my X server (I'm using Mandrake 7.0).  When I try
> to startx, it fails, and the error message I get says something like:
> 
>     cannot connect to font 'fixed'
> 
> I've tried playing with my font path, trying different installed fonts one
> at a time, but I still get the same message.  What's wrong, and how do I fix
> it?
> 
> Matt O.

Do you have a user xfs?

What does
/sbin/chkconfig --list xfs
show?

You might try reinstalling the package
XFree86-xfs


-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash prompting...
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:33:58 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I want to set my bash prompt to display the machine name in bold (i.e.
> colour) print. I can do this in csh/tcsh by using the command:
> set prompt="%B%m%b:%/> "
> 
> My prompt in bash is currently set by:
> PS1="[\u@\h \w] > "

There is a Bash-Prompt mini-HOWTO on 

   http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/

Erik
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