Linux-Misc Digest #19, Volume #19 Sun, 14 Feb 99 02:13:09 EST
Contents:
Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: extended partition problem ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible? ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: System command /usr/bin/gunzip -c /usr/man/cat1/date.1.gz exited (jamie)
Re: Geochron for Linux? (Steve Emms)
SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP ("Nobody")
Re: Small version of Linux
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Kinkster)
Re: Dual booting.. (Steve Limkemann)
Re: Recovering from a forgotten root password... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:24:06 GMT
Hi all,
I am currently using Win95 and want to install Linux too. Instead of
installing both Linux and W95 on the same HDD, I intend to get another HDD
and install Linux on one HDD (secondary master) and Win95 on the other
(primary master).
1) How should I go about doing this? Where should LILO be installed? Would it
be possible to get prompted as to which OS to boot? There is a messy option
of disenabling one of the HDD in CMOS which I would rather avoid.
2) I also intend to install APACHE Web server on Linux HDD. Would it be
possible to do a client-server setup, using just two HDDs', so that I can run
CGI scripts on the Web server and have the results displayed while running
Win 95? Is there any inexpensive way to do this?
Thanks for any suggestions and help.
BOB
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: extended partition problem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:35:02 -0500
If your drive space is fully filled with partitions, you evidently have 1229
cylinders,
with LBA enabled in your BIOS. There's no problem with the extended
partition
so long as you create a small /boot logical partition within it that resides
entirely
below the 1240 cylinder boundary.
When you use fdisk, go into its 'expert' menu and change to the correct
number
of LBA cylinders, then return to the main menu to read or create partitions.
(For cfdisk, just call it with the command 'cfdisk -c <number of
cylinders>').
If you ask fdisk or cfdisk to verify your partitions, it will probably
complain about
overlapping partitions. This is a bug in the verson of fdisk shipped with
RH5.1
and is corrected in fdisk v2.9i which you can download. (If Partition
Magic also
complains about overlapping partitions, then you probably have cause for
worry.)
See the Large-Disk mini HOWTO for a more detailed explanantion of what's
actually going on.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
Dawid Michalczyk wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Problem description:
>
>I have 2 harddrives and run Linux(RH5.1), NT, and W98 on my computer.Since
I
>need more
>space for Linux, I want to devote one of the FAT16 partitions on hda to
Linux.
>The problem(I think) is that the partition which I want to devote to Linux
is an
>extended
>one, and the Linux fdisk tool can't see the logical drives of the extended
>partitions.
>I get the following printout when using fdisk(under Linux):
>
>
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1024 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>
> Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 1 246 1975963+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M
> /dev/hda2 247 247 1229 7895947+ f Unknown
> Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
> phys=(1023, 254, 63) logical=(1228, 254, 63)
>
>
>The hda, which is FAT16 only, consists of one primary partition(C or hda1)
and 4
>extended
>partitions(E, F, G, H or hda2).All 5 partitions are 1930Mb in size.Linux
and NT
>are both
>installed on hdb.
>
>I have deleted the H partition(using Partition Magic 3) and tried to add it
>under
>Linux, using fdisk.However, I always got the following message: no free
blocks
>available.
>
>I also tried using cfdisk, and I get the following right after typing the
cfdisk
>command:
>
> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition
> Press any key to exit fdisk
>
>I have a modern hardware setup and never experienced any problems:
>
>P2 350Mhz/256MB RAM
>hda is a 10.1GB IBM
>hdb is a 6.4GB Quantum
>
>Is anybody able to explain what m I doing wrong, or what I need to do in
order
>to
>get more space for Linux?
>
>Thanks in advance, Dawid
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Win95 + Linux Dual Installation Possible?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:50:11 +0000
> 1) How should I go about doing this? Where should LILO be installed? Would it
> be possible to get prompted as to which OS to boot? There is a messy option
> of disenabling one of the HDD in CMOS which I would rather avoid.
Hmm... there are nicer and more powerful options you can explore by using
third-part boot manager software, but for LILO-only you would install LILO on
the Master Boot Record of the first hard drive (primary-master). During setup
for RedHat (and most other distributions I assume) the installation program
allows you to neatly set up what all operating systems you want to dual boot to.
> 2) I also intend to install APACHE Web server on Linux HDD. Would it be
> possible to do a client-server setup, using just two HDDs', so that I can run
> CGI scripts on the Web server and have the results displayed while running
> Win 95? Is there any inexpensive way to do this?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question... but it sounds like you're
basically wanting the capacity to connect to active Linux programs within active
Windows programs. This can't be done! Dual-booting means that you're computer
has the capability of running one or more different operating systems, but you
have to choose one at a time... no force of nature or act of God is going to
allow one processor to run both Linux and Win95 simultaneously. If this is some
work you're wanting to get into, you might want to consider getting a cheap or
used second computer and hooking them up with network cable... to have a Windows
and Linux mini-network in your home.
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jamie)
Subject: Re: System command /usr/bin/gunzip -c /usr/man/cat1/date.1.gz exited
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:16:01 -0600
Joe (tWdy) Philbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...and all I wanted to do was a...
>
>~$ man date|lessv:!su
$PASSWD
date 0211194599
>>sickbiosbatteryHOW-TO
>
>But the man command didn't just happen tell me how to get to a live :!
>command prompti emulation from within a less session which was invoked on
>the stdout of the man command....
>
> What did I do wrong???
Obviously what you did wrong was try to use 'date' to set the time and
date. Once upon a time I knew how to do that. But it's pain in the
ass, and by the time you've reread the man page and figured out which
string you want to use, the time has changed and your clock is off.
/usr/sbin/netdate 132.163.135.130
clock -w
--
jamie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"There's a seeker born every minute."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Emms)
Subject: Re: Geochron for Linux?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 08:40:29 GMT
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 23:58:39 -0600, Steve Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Has anyone seen or heard of a version of geochron for linux?
>
>Geochron is a program that shows a map of the world, with real-time
>display of the areas that are covered by daylight.
>
>Thanks!
>
Try searching one of the popular Linux search engines.
Regards
Steve
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From: "Nobody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SCIOCADDRT: Invalid Argument.... HELP
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:30:58 -0600
I am setting up a Redhat 5.2 linux box as a web/ftp server. I am using an
SMC EtherEZ ISA card. I have used this card on dozens of Linux Installs
with no problems at all. In fact I installed linux on this machine using
this card via FTP. I have never seen the error message SCIOCADDRT: Invalid
Argument before... any help would be appriciated.
Things that changed since the card last worked:
The card was originaly setup to using DHCP, It now uses a static IP.
Linux was installed while the machine was on another network than the one on
which it currently resides.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:06:38 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
> > I have an old PC with only a 3.5in floppy drive which i would like to install
> > linux on, Is there a small version of linux that i'll fit on just a few disks?
> > max 20? If so, where can i find it?
>
> I don't know about Linux, but you can find a small version of FreeBSD to fit on a
> single floppy:
>
> -->http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/
There are two versions of linux that will fit on a single
floppy diskette, the Linux Router Project and Micro Linux.
They can be found respectively at http://www.linuxrouter.org/
and http://www4.pisoft.it/~andreoli/mulinux.html
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:48:01 GMT
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:27:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster) chose
>to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:48:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:01 -0800, David Masterson
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
>>>wisdom:
>>>
>>>>David Kastrup wrote:
>>>>> While I don't think (as some) that Microsoft should be forced to ship
>>>>> Netscape as well at the option of Windows customer, they *should* be
>>>>> forced to make all necessary information for doing that publically
>>>>> available so that Netscape as well as other browser vendors have a
>>>>> chance to compete with Internet Explorer on Windows. And this should
>>>>> be controlled tightly to ensure they don't hide important APIs, making
>>>>> the task more or less undoable for people not into the secret.
>>>>
>>>>Here's an idea. If you grant that Microsoft has a (near-)monopoly in
>>>>OS, then, as a remedy, why not remove that monopoly in a way that keeps
>>>>the government out of the computer OS business and maintains open
>>>>competition. My idea would be to give control of the OS over to 3 (or
>>>>more) separate companies (one of which may be owned by MS) and have
>>>>those companies compete with each other. In other words, each would
>>>>have a complete copy of the OS (and the engineering know-how to support
>>>>it). To differentiate themselves, they would then have to move their
>>>>copy of the OS in new and innovative ways. Yet, they would have the
>>>>engineering knowledge to incorporate innovations from the other
>>>>companies into their copy of the OS. In so doing, they would open up
>>>>new opportunities for getting into the MS-Windows universe.
>>>
>>>
>>>And is this going to be done voluntarily? If the government forces
>>>such a move then guess what? You've still got government intrusion
>>>into the OS area. It took government about 25 years to get into
>>>regulating automobiles under ythe guise of safety before they started
>>>becoming draconian; even to the point of mandating 'safety' devices
>>>that they knew would kill and injure people.
>>
>>Such as radio knobs that prior to govmt regulations protruded enough
>>so that they'd puncture your skull in an accident
>
>I've never seen one of those. It wouldn't surprise me though if there
>was a government reg on the size of radio knobs.
I believe there probably is, maybe some type of maximum PSI that can
be suffered during an impact. It keeps people like you able to walk
away from accidents without putting holes in your skull from a silly
radio knob.
> After all they do
>tell you what kind of toilet paper you can wipe your ass with.
I remember noticing them after the government made comments about them
being a safety hazard. On the car I learned to drive in ( '64 Chevy
Impala ) they were about 2 inches long and were chrome plated steel,
great for looks but all the better to puncture your skull with. I've
also seen pictures of skulls with neat little holes punched in them by
those same type knobs, nowadays with the broad flat plastic knobs you
most likely wouldn't even wind up with a headache from the same impact
that before would have killed you.
>
>>, steering columns
>>that didn't collapse but impaled the drivers, doors that flew open in
>>an accident, and the list of "industry" safety devices goes on
>
>Industry safety devices include brakelights and turn signals.
>Some of the wonderful safety measures brought o us by the government
>include CAFE standards that mandate smaller cars in which you are more
>vulnerable to injury and death.
Maybe we should all drive busses ?
We have about 5% of the worlds population but consume about 40% of
it's energy. The CAFE standards were implemented for more than just
mileage , we also seem to have major problems with huge gas guzzling
monsters polluting the atmosphere. Take a trip to Europe or Asia and
you'll see they aren't infatuated with driving behemoth land yachts
like we seem to be here.
> A one size fits all airbag which has
>killed many people. The auto companies would have been able to put the
>adjustable kind in from the beginning but the government wouldn't
>allow it. While not an actual regulation it was government pressure
>that has gotten the SUVs lowered and lightened thus lessening the
>safety of the last really safe class of vehicles left.
Yeah, I _LOVE_ seeing a 90 pound woman driving 5500 Lbs of Lincoln
Navigator all by herself down to the quick mart for a gallon of milk,
it makes for real economical/ecological sense. When's the last time
you actually saw someone have something in the back of 4000 Lbs of
pickup truck or 5000+ Lbs of SUV hurtling down the expressway ??
(Besides a Tonneau cover ??)
>
>>........ Maybe the government should get out of safety regulations for
>>Airlines too ??
>
>And where did I say that there should be no regulation? Could you
>please point that out or admit that you are just a hysterical ninny?
You're the Chicken Little that cries about the government being in
everything from throttling m$ to the auto industry to handgun control.
Why don't you admit you're a relic from (somehow) the frontier past
and can't fathom this modern society we live in ?
>We need some regulation. What we don't need is this layer upon layer
>of nit-picking oversight that allows any agency to regulate any and
>every thing in the name of 'safety' or 'for the children' or whatever
>the buzzword at the time is.
>
>> You take the first Value Jet minus government
>>regulation.
>
>Again with the 'no regulation' hysteria. Its not an either or kind of
>deal. We can have something less than the heavy handed over reaching
>approach that government uses now and still be safe. Have you ever
>been involved in a heavily regulated industry?
Uhhh care to try the auto industry or isn't that "heavily regulated"
enough for you ??
>Until you have been you
>have absolutely no idea how this works.
That's why I'm so anti-m$, I've seen first hand the sloppy, fat and
lazy ways of doing business when one has the market to themselves. The
equipment and factory buildings I was working with/in , in the mid
80's dated back to the 1930's and 1940's, that sure as hell changed in
a hurry when the Japanese (read _competition_) damn near drove the US
auto industry into bankruptcy.
Want some _true_ horror stories of the existing conditions of some of
the vehicles we sent to the dealers prior to some strict government
regulation ??
>
>> Maybe the government should also get out of trying to
>>provide for safe meat and food products too , I hope you wind up with
>>the first E.Coli or Listeria Burger.
>
>The childish thing would be for me to wish that you are 5' 0" and get
>involved in collision that deploys your airbag. However I don't wish
>anyone dead; not even a jerk like you.
I didn't say (or mean to imply) I wanted you dead, a good dose of the
shits would do justice.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I doubt that it would
>>>take that long before they made a total cluster fuck of the computer
>>>industry.
They broke up Standard Oil in the early 1900's without making a "total
cluster fsck" of the gasoline industry. They made Proctor and Gamble
divest themselves of Clorox Bleach, they made Ford sell off their
parts division and the list goes on, yet I don't see P&G or Ford or
any other company suffering from "Cluster Fsck" as you put it.
>>>Why not just wait a few years and let the market take care of things?
>>>It works slower but it works much, much better.
>
>I noticed that you didn't address the main point of the post.
Your main point seemed to be bitching about the auto industry , as far
as m$ goes they are big enough and dirty enough to stifle competition
for the next 100 years. How long do we wait ?? 5 years ?? 10 ? 20 ??
100??
>
>
>"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
> And with strange aeons even death may die."
>- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: Steve Limkemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual booting..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:54:14 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup Stephe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well not sure what I'm doing wrong but maybe someone can explain.
> I have 2 hard drives in my box. Linux is the primary master and
> win 95 is the primary slave. I can get either to boot by changing
> the sequence of bootup in the bios and the windows file system
> (internally) reset itself to "c" the first time it booted as
> secondary so I think this should work out. I have tried to get
> lilo to boot win95 at the boot prompt by adding this to the
> /ect/lilo.config file..
You need to tell LILO to logically swap the two drives for you when
booting Windoze. See http://www.wwnet.com/~stevelin/booting.html for
the details. (Version 21 fixes the bugs covered on the page.)
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Recovering from a forgotten root password...
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:20:44 GMT
If you are running linux only, you can change it so there is no prompt so
that you cannot do single user. Plus you can disable ctr-alt-del so it wont
reboot. Then if you remove the ablilty to boot from the floppy you have a
more secure system. It is still possible to get in, but it's getting more
difficult.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luciano Cota Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
> > And that's it! I changed the root password very easily.
> > I was really surprised. Is it a security hole? Can I disable this
> > feature?
>
> From http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/security.html:
>
> LILO passwords: Adding the lines "password=your_password" and "restricted" to
your
> lilo config file (usually /etc/lilo.conf) and rerunning lilo will prevent
anyone
> from booting up without a password using a simple fairly well known trick.
Except
> if they boot off a floppy. The only way to prevent that is to remove it or use
the
> password protection of your BIOS.
>
> BIOS passwords (from usenet article): "Some BIOS'es will reset/disable a
password with a key combination.
> I've seen ctrl-enter, ctrl-alt-ins, ctrl-alt-esc."
>
> --
> Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
> Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
>
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