Linux-Misc Digest #23, Volume #24 Sun, 2 Apr 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: WINTV ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Firewall stuff (James Campbell Andrew)
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? ("Peter T. Breuer")
setuid-root ? basic questions (peter pilsl)
Re: setuid-root ? basic questions (Dances With Crows)
Getting CPU speed ("Avi Kavas")
Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations (Donal)
Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations (Donal)
Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux (Leonard Evens)
Re: VIRUS WARNING !!!!! (Kenny McCormack)
Recording Audio Tape (Andy Knifel)
WinLinux booting "The Grafics engine (x-server)was not started correctly
Re: Can't believe someone hasn't seen this! (Crash Davis)
Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux ("MBP")
Re: WINTV ? (Robie Basak)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WINTV ?
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:14:11 GMT
Found the xawtv page, got that installed on my machine, but now I have
to deal with bttv. Unfortunately I find that I need a new kernel. Mind
is 2.2.12-20 which I know is stable. But I told that I need at least
2.3.xxx which I gather will be unstable - so I don't want to put that on
my system (even if I could).
Is it possible someone could give me a step-by-step guide on how to get
bttv on to my computer. I'm reading the Kernel HOW-TO , but it's filling
me with a great amount of foreboding.
I apologise for being one of the new type of people to Linux (those
with little experience of the very inner workings of a computer).
Thanks
Duncan
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:07:37 +0000, Ian Mortimer said:
> >It works perfectly with xawtv - if you use windowmaker you can even
get
> >a dockapp for it - wmtv
> >
> >Rgds, Ian
>
> You may need to recompile the kernel - see the Kernel HOWTO at
> linuxdoc.org. Add support for Video4Linux, the bttv driver and (for
> teletext, if you have it) saa5429, IIRC.
>
> Then xawtv works perfectly. Also, if you have a remote control, a
> program called lirc (search freshmeat.net) lets you work it.
>
> Robie.
>
> >
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone got Hauppage's wintv to work with Linux. (RedHat 6.1)
> >>
> >> Wintv is about the only reason I use windows now, so if someone
could
> >> help me, I will never have to see the blue screen of death ever
again -
> >> yeh!
> >>
> >> Duncan
> >>
> >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >> Before you buy.
>
> --
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Firewall stuff
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:29:11 +0100
I'm setting up some basic firewalling rules on my SuSE 6.2 (kernel
2.2.14) box. However, when going through the system configuration in
Yast I discovered a bunch of FW_* variables. Could someone please
explain what they are since the descriptions seem to be absent. I know
they pertain to firewalling but I don't know what values to put in them.
I'm running a very small network using the 192.168.1.x IP range. The
Linux box is the gateway to the Internet via ppp, and my Mac is
networked through eth0.
Also, is it possible to log any from the firewall to somewhere other
than /var/log/messages? Say, /var/log/firewall?
Thanks,
Jim
PS Go easy on me, I'm new at this!
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Date: 2 Apr 2000 12:36:51 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: And verily, didst Jim Fuller hastily scribble thusly:
:> Prasanth Kumar wrote:
:>>
:>> Linux stands for "Linux Is Not UniX" ;-)
:> I'm constantly amazed at the number of otherwise almost intelligent
:> people who don't know that.
: It never occurred to me. I always saw it as "LINUs uniX" or something like
: that, based entierly on his name.
April 1.
It actually means "linus uses xenix""
Peter
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setuid-root ? basic questions
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 13:17:55 GMT
when debugging a printing problem (user cannot lprm) I ran into basic
troubles in understanding setuid-root. I couldnt clear my mind in man
chmod.
assume a file like:
-rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 95 Apr 2 15:00 testscript
what does it exactely mean ?
when ANY user execute this file it is run as root ?
or:
only a user = root or a user in users can start it so that it run as root
and other users can only run it 'normally' ?
in the first case, which makes more sense to me, why is there a per-user-
setuid and a a pergroup-setuid ?
anyway : on my system neither the first nor the second seems to work.
testscript should delete a file that is owned by root (just for
testingpurpose only !!)
#!/bin/bash
rm -f /tmp/test
where
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 95 Apr 2 15:00 test
I run this script as root and the file gets deleted. I run the file as
user (groupmembership users or not) and I get a permission-error !
Is it possible that setuid is permitted on my system (its based on
redhat5.2 but with new kernel)
thanks,
peter
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pilsl@
goldfisch.at.at
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: setuid-root ? basic questions
Date: 02 Apr 2000 09:56:34 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 13:17:55 GMT, peter pilsl
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>when debugging a printing problem (user cannot lprm) I ran into basic
>troubles in understanding setuid-root. I couldnt clear my mind in man
>chmod.
>-rwsr-sr-x 1 root users 95 Apr 2 15:00 testscript
>when ANY user execute this file it is run as root ?
Yes.
>in the first case, which makes more sense to me, why is there a per-user-
>setuid and a a pergroup-setuid ?
Security reasons, basically. If you have this:
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root uucp /usr/bin/crud
-rw-rw---- 1 root uucp /dev/ttyS0
then the SGID bit on the program allows it to be owned by root and run as
group "uucp", so the program can directly access the serial port without
having full root privileges.
>I run this script as root and the file gets deleted. I run the file as
>user (groupmembership users or not) and I get a permission-error !
SUID shell scripts are not allowed. Ever. Too many security holes.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Avi Kavas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,alt.os.linux,comp.local.linux
Subject: Getting CPU speed
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:09:41 +0200
Is there a system call to retrieve the CPU speed in Linux ?
thanks,
Avi.
p.s.
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Donal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
Subject: Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:52:04 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Bardolatzi) wrote:
>> I cannot find the smtp_remote_allow option anywhere. =20
>
>Well, as for me "man smail-config" displayed this option - if it's calle=
d
>differently then make a "man -k smail" and you'll find the manpage.
>
I am now quite sure that this option is not in my version of smail 3.2-60=
=2E
I cannot find anything that looks like a replacement either.
>> ...
>
>Does the user help@domain exist at all?
There is no user called "help" on this machine. If you are referring to =
the
word help on the sendmail command - it is the text of the message sent to
majordomo- which should reply with some general information. i.e I would
expect a message to be sent back to root with majordomo instructions.
>
>e.g. a nonexistent local user causes the following:
>
>helo hostname.domain
>250 localhost Hello hostname.domain (user@localhost from
>address [IP]).
>mail from: postmaster
>250 postmaster ... Sender Okay
>rcpt to: unknownuser =20
>550 'unknownuser' <test@(nodomain)> not matched: (ERR_100) unknown user.
>
I have not seen anything like this.
>... and refuses "data".
>
>If your Majordomo had a subdomain or another domain this *must* be ente=
red in
>
>hostname=3Dlocalhost:domainname
>
>... so it knows that this is *not* a remote IP/domain (and might refuse =
it as=20
>SSpam because of relaying).
I think that this is not an issue as Majordomo is on the same
machine.=20
>Sorry for my assumtions - what is the contents of "/etc/smail/config"?
>
error_copy_postmaster
domains=3Dlanode.com
visible_name=3D"lanode.com"
more_hostnames=3Dlanode.com:lanode.demon.co.uk:localhost:donal1.lanode.co=
m
max_message_size=3D5000K
message_buf_size=3D5000K =20
trusted_users=3D"root:daemon:mdom:majordomo:donal:nobody"
trusted_groups=3D"mdom:users:mail:daemon"
I put the last two lines in to see if they would help. They do not seem =
to
have made any difference. Following another suggestion in this thread I =
have
also tried to install an older smail rpm file, but it conflicted with so=
me
SuSE package "aaa-dir" which seems to be important. So I seem totally st=
uck.
Thanks
PS sorry about the name "lanode" appearing as the sender in my previous p=
ost.=20
I think that I have fixed this.
--=20
Donal
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From: Donal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
Subject: Re: Smail - mailing list - Security Violations
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:11:33 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Make an 'smail -bP smtp_remote_allow' - there you'll find it..
I wish! What a nightmare, copy and paste follows:
>>>>bash-2.02# smail -bP smtp_remote_allow
>>>>smail: unknown attribute: smtp_remote_allow
Searches of all variables do not reveal any obvious replacement.
Thanks=20
--=20
Donal
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 09:07:40 -0500
Tom Craig wrote:
>
> I have a 50MHz 486 with 20Mb RAM, a VESA local bus, PnP support, a 340Mb
> FAT16 hard disk, 1Mb VESA local graphics and a 4x Toshbia CD-ROM running
> Windows 95. I have DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 installation disks, and a CD of
> SuSE Linux 6.3 (kernel 2.2.13). I want to dual-boot between DOS/Windows and
> Linux. What should I install first, and how do you install Linux? Is there
> anything I should know about before installing?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> --Tom Craig
You will have a very hard time fitting working versions both of
Windows 95 and Linux on a 340 MB hard disk. I doubt if it is
possible.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING !!!!!
Date: 2 Apr 2000 09:27:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8c6igp$5t4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
..
>
> Many of you Windows 95 / 98 programs may no longer function.
>
>The is no fix or cure for this virus. Users are being warned
>to watch out for it. If you see this virus, DO NOT load it
>into your system!!!!
This is not April Fools at all.
The fact is that W2K is not an upgrade for Win9X - it is a switch to NT.
And the general public neither wants nor needs NT. They should, instead, be
"upgrading" to Windows Millenium. See the text below.
It is also the case, as you say, that there is no anti-virus out there yet
(though, I'm sure, McAfee is working on it as we speak). One of the
interesting attributes of W2K is that, unlike previous MS offerings, it
cannot be uninstalled (It warns you of this fact in one of the early
installation screens).
The following text ought to be read and understood by one and all before
coming anywhere near W2K:
=====Original Message=====
RAK> OK... call me clueless... what is "Windows Millennium"???
For nigh on 3/4 of a decade now, Microsoft has had two strands of
"Windows": the Windows that sits on top of the DOS operating system and
the Windows that does not. Up until recently, the Windows that sits on
top of DOS has been named after the year -- a clever marketing tactic
aimed at persuading people to upgrade every couple of years and subtly
pushing them ever closer to the "yearly rental" purchasing model that
the "Halloween Documents" discuss -- and the Windows that does not use
DOS has been given an alphabetical name and a version number. Hence we
have had DOS+Windows 95, DOS+Windows 98, Windows NT 3.5, and Windows NT 4.
With the new releases of both types of Windows, Microsoft has now
switched things around. The Windows that does not use DOS is now named
after the year, whereas the Windows that sits on top of DOS now has an
alphabetical name. Hence "Windows 2000" is in fact the successor to
Windows NT 4, and "Windows Millennium" is the DOS-based successor to
DOS+Windows 98.
I've read hypotheses that the idea behind this is simple "bait and
switch": Since DOS+Windows Millennium is being downplayed, to the
extent that most people (such as yourself) don't even know that there
will be a new version of DOS+Windows, the idea that Microsoft Marketing
has is that people using (DOS+)"Windows 98" will see "Windows 2000" as
being its natural successor, simply because it is "the next version of
Windows with a year number", and switch over to using the non-DOS-based
Windows without realising it.
Incidentally, there is a noticable trend amongst existing Windows NT
users of calling Windows 2000 "Windows NT 2000".
> JdeBP <
--- FleetStreet 1.22 NR * Origin: JdeBP's point, using Squish <yuk!>
(2:257/609.3)
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From: Andy Knifel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recording Audio Tape
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 14:30:12 GMT
Can I transfer Audio tape to CD Rom in Linux?
I know you can do it in Windows with CD Spin Doctor.
I have not had luck looking for software in the usual Linux places.
My PC is now completly Windowz FREE!
My setup is a Celeron 400, 128 ram, SB AWE64 Slackware 7.0
Thanks in advance
Andy Knifel
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WinLinux booting "The Grafics engine (x-server)was not started correctly
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 14:30:19 GMT
I am trying to run WinLinux on my system It tells the graphics engine
was started incorrectly. I have tried to different graphic and display
settings but nothing has worked so far. Any suggestions?
I am trying to run it on a K6-2 450, with 192MB of ram, and the video card
I am using is a Diammond Stealth III S450.
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From: Crash Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Can't believe someone hasn't seen this!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 10:41:52 -0400
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Ok. I've used the suggestion of just clicking the "OK" button and getting
on with things. It does fine dialing in to my ISP. However, when it comes
times to startup pppd, the daemon starts (i can see it in the process
table), but no connection appears to be made. I turned on debugging and
see the an error about modprobe not able to locate the "char-major-108"
module.
in my /var/log/ppp file:
Apr 2 00:07:47 localhost modprobe: can't locate modules char-major-108
Apr 2 00:07:47 localhost pppd[600]: pppd 2.3.10 started by chris
Apr 2 00:09:47 localhost pppd[600]: terminating on signal 15
Apr 2 00:09:47 localhost pppd[600]: Exit.
Perhaps an interesting note is that the ppp.o and slhc.o modules report
"unresolved symbols" when loading them. I ran depmod on them and found
that the unresolved symbols appear to be kmalloc, kfree, and some other
allocations routines. I don't understand why this is happening.
thanks,
chris
Patricia wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, Chris Davis wrote:
> >>Anyone seen this problem before? I have PPP running fine on one of my
> >machines, but I'm having difficulty solving this problem on my laptop.
> >Any suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> >This is reported by kppp upon start up:
> >
> >"This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel
> >module loader.
> > To solve this problem:
> > * contact your system administrator
> > or
> > * install a kernel with PPP support"
> >
> >I've recompiled my kernel (many times over) with PPP support enabled,
> >both as a module and built-in and still get the same message.
> >
> >
> >This is what is found in /var/log/messages:
> >PPP: version 2.3.7 (deman dialing)
> >PPP line discipline registered.
> >
> >No other messages are reported when kppp is started.
> >
> >
> >I noticed that lsmod does not show ppp or slhc loaded. Not sure why.
> >
> >If it is not obvious, I'm running RH6.1. Kernel version 2.2.12-20.
> >
> >I'll be happy to provide any more information that i may have
> >inadvertently omitted.
> >
> >TIA,
> >chris
>
> Chris,
> This is a bug in RedHat.
> You must upgrade Kppp and pppd
> or you can use this Hack
> as user
> type su -c "pppd <> /dev/modem"
> type root's password
> and after a second or two, press Ctrl-C to interrupt pppd.
> the result is visible in /var/log/messages:
> ppp0 registered
> After this, you can start kppp just as usual, and it will *not* complain
>
> --
> HTH :)
> Patricia
>
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
> Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
> Kernel 2.2.5-15
> 12:50am up 18:33, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.34, 0.35
> Sat Apr 1 00:50:48 CEST 2000
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From: "MBP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 14:43:35 GMT
get a bigger hard drive and put all your files onto the big one then
experiment with linux on the little one. try the install and if it says
anything about something valled LILO or anything about dual-booting then go
ahead as planned. 6.4GB should only cost you anywhere between $100 and $200
Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Craig wrote:
> >
> > I have a 50MHz 486 with 20Mb RAM, a VESA local bus, PnP support, a 340Mb
> > FAT16 hard disk, 1Mb VESA local graphics and a 4x Toshbia CD-ROM running
> > Windows 95. I have DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 installation disks, and a CD
of
> > SuSE Linux 6.3 (kernel 2.2.13). I want to dual-boot between DOS/Windows
and
> > Linux. What should I install first, and how do you install Linux? Is
there
> > anything I should know about before installing?
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> >
> > --Tom Craig
>
> You will have a very hard time fitting working versions both of
> Windows 95 and Linux on a 340 MB hard disk. I doubt if it is
> possible.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: WINTV ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Apr 2000 15:06:37 GMT
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:14:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Found the xawtv page, got that installed on my machine, but now I have
>to deal with bttv. Unfortunately I find that I need a new kernel. Mind
No you don't; the bttv driver definetely works for me on kernel
2.2.14. I'm using xawtv version 3.07, and don't have any problems with
it. The only thing is that the teletext driver (saa5249 or something)
needs me to put the parameter '-oldbttv' before it works. Big deal.
>is 2.2.12-20 which I know is stable. But I told that I need at least
>2.3.xxx which I gather will be unstable - so I don't want to put that on
>my system (even if I could).
You don't have to.
>
>Is it possible someone could give me a step-by-step guide on how to get
>bttv on to my computer. I'm reading the Kernel HOW-TO , but it's filling
>me with a great amount of foreboding.
Summary of the Kernel-HOWTO:
Delete the symlink /usr/src/linux (man rm); then untar
linux-2.2.14.tar.bz2 into /usr/src (man bunzip2; man tar); this will
create /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 - if not, rename (man mv). Then make a
symlink so that /usr/src/linux points to /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 (man
ln). Copy the old .config file (/usr/src/linux-old/.config) into
/usr/src/linux (man cp), then run 'make menuconfig' from
/usr/src/linux.
Then:
make clean && make dep && make bzImage && make modules
make modules_install
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14
Then change /etc/lilo.conf appropriately (man lilo.conf)
/sbin/lilo (man lilo)
It's not at all dangerous as long as you leave an option in lilo.conf
to boot your old kernel in case something goes wrong.
It's not as complicated as it looks - the whole process takes me about
10 minutes (2 minutes configuration, 6 minutes compile, 2 minutes
lilo.conf and boot).
>
>I apologise for being one of the new type of people to Linux (those
>with little experience of the very inner workings of a computer).
You just need some understanding of the software (RTFM), with PCI
cards the inner workings are all automatic.
Robie.
>
>Thanks
>
>Duncan
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:07:37 +0000, Ian Mortimer said:
>> >It works perfectly with xawtv - if you use windowmaker you can even
>get
>> >a dockapp for it - wmtv
>> >
>> >Rgds, Ian
>>
>> You may need to recompile the kernel - see the Kernel HOWTO at
>> linuxdoc.org. Add support for Video4Linux, the bttv driver and (for
>> teletext, if you have it) saa5429, IIRC.
>>
>> Then xawtv works perfectly. Also, if you have a remote control, a
>> program called lirc (search freshmeat.net) lets you work it.
>>
>> Robie.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone got Hauppage's wintv to work with Linux. (RedHat 6.1)
>> >>
>> >> Wintv is about the only reason I use windows now, so if someone
>could
>> >> help me, I will never have to see the blue screen of death ever
>again -
>> >> yeh!
>> >>
>> >> Duncan
>> >>
>> >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> >> Before you buy.
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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