Linux-Misc Digest #27, Volume #24 Sun, 2 Apr 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: QUESTION! (brian moore)
Re: redhat 6.1 vs PostgreSql (Jim Fuller)
Re: Recommendations Please ("Tom Hoffmann")
Re: Recommendations Please (Jim Fuller)
Missing directory on Kodak PhotoCD (Neil Cherry)
Mandrake 7 hangs on boot ("Fred W. Snyder")
Paging Software Recommendations ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux (John Hasler)
Re: fatal signal 11 (Michael Powe)
Re: about different rpm type ("Eddy")
Re: about different rpm type (Hal Burgiss)
Want more on Linux..Try Here ("SEATTLE")
RedHat 6.0 and 17Gb hard disk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VIRUS WARNING !!!!! (A Guy Called Tyketto)
Re: setuid-root does not work on lprm ? (L J Bayuk)
Re: Recommendations Please (Shadow Hunter)
Re: Paging Software Recommendations ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't believe someone hasn't seen this! (Crash Davis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: QUESTION!
Date: 2 Apr 2000 23:17:50 GMT
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:16:09 +0100,
Lion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >"Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Another one who probably wants to pirate and play all those Windoz games
> >> under something he doesn't want to pay for...
> >
> >how can you avoid paying for windows? it's pre-installed everywhere.
> >(yes, i know you can build your own. however you have to go out of
> >your way to avoid it.)
>
> You can buy systems without windoze. They are advertised, but mainly
> cheapo ones.
Oh, I wouldn't say "cheapo".
The systems made by places like ASL (http://www.aslab.com/), for
example, are extremely high quality and work much better than the "brand
name" systems that come with Windows. From looking around at VA Linux's
site (http://www.valinux.com/) or Penguin Computing's site
(http://www.penguincomputing.com/), they seem to be doing much the same
thing: doing their homework on which motherboards are good (it is scary
how much of a difference a decent motherboard makes), matching it to a
high quality video card, disk drive, etc.
The systems are substantially cheaper than the "server" machines from
the big guys, but they're not exactly "cheapo". High quality components
cost more than the sort of "motherboard of the day!" in an emachine.
None of the machines above come with Windows. Some will install it if
you pay them more.
Pick up a copy of Linux Journal and you'll see lots of high quality (not
"cheapo") systems that don't come with Windows.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: Jim Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: redhat 6.1 vs PostgreSql
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 17:24:35 -0600
Kenny Leong wrote:
>
> I have a Linux Redhat 6.1 box installed as Server option. Can anyone
> tell/point me what to do next(point some link to linux guide/docs would be
> better)? In most documentation always mention the path '/usr/local/pgsql'
> but when I check it wasn't there by default Redhat 6.1 installation. What
> should I do?
First, find out which version you have. You can do "rpm -q postgresql"
or you can look in /usr/doc for a "postgresql-x.y.z" directory. In
either case, cd to that directory (on my 6.2, it's
/usr/doc/postgresql-6.5.3). Peruse README.rpm, which, in part, says (on
my system):
"
However, the RPM's install the files like this:
Executables: /usr/bin
Libaries: /usr/lib
Documentation: /usr/docs/postgresql-6.5.3
Contrib: /usr/docs/postgresql-6.5.3/contrib
Source: not installed
Data: /var/lib/pgsql
Templates: /usr/lib/pgsql
Procedural Languages: /usr/lib/pgsql
Regression Tests: /usr/lib/pgsql/test/regress
TCL client docs: /usr/docs/postgresql-tcl-6.5.3
Development Headers: /usr/include/pgsql
"
--
Jim Fuller
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:40:33 GMT
Expensive??? I paid $3.49 for RedHat 6.1 from cheapbytes. The postage
($5.00) cost me more than the Linux.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:33:45 +0100, Andy wrote:
>>I am looking at purchasing either RH6.1 Linux or SuSE Linux. Which do
>>people prefer? What is the manual/documentation like with each product?
>>Thanx in advance, Andy
>
> None of them. They're both very expensive. The docs that come with the
> Suse distro are comparatively good, but it has 6 CDs and installs lots
> of trash you'll never need. Use Mandrake and buy a good book :-)
>
> Bastian
>
>
>
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From: Jim Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 17:48:42 -0600
Tom Hoffmann wrote:
>
> Expensive??? I paid $3.49 for RedHat 6.1 from cheapbytes. The postage
> ($5.00) cost me more than the Linux.
I went from 6.1 to 6.2 via ftp, the 3rd upgrade that I have done via
ftp. It took about 4 hours, probably boosted me over my bandwidth
quota, which means that I'll have to pay another $1.00 to my ISP this
month, and worked almost perfectly. I say "almost" because it changed
my .Xdefaults to ugly stuff.
--
Jim Fuller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Missing directory on Kodak PhotoCD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:52:45 GMT
I have a Kodak Photo CD and I'm trying to use it with Gimp and XHpcd.
Unfortunately can not find the images when their loaded under Linux.
Yet when I load the CD under Win95 I find them under the Pictures
directory. What do I need to do to get them to show up under a Linux
mount?
--
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http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52 (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
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From: "Fred W. Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Mandrake 7 hangs on boot
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:36:19 -0400
For no apparent reason, Mandrake 7 hangs on the boot process
after the command "mount -n -o remount, rw /" in the file
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. The following command of that file is
not executed - "mount -f -t proc /proc/proc."
After booting with a resue disk and e2fsck -f -v was done on
all filesystems and errors cleared. Still hangs at the same
point.
Appreciate any suggestions. Anyone else have this problem?
TIA
F. Snyder
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Paging Software Recommendations
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:25:52 GMT
Hi guys,
I am pretty new to linux. But have been programming a long time.
I am writing some linux software and find the need to send a page. It
can be just a plain numeric page. But alpha numeric would be even
better. Its prefereable to find something that will work directly with
a modem on the linux box. It can be comand line oriented or have a
standard API.
Please post any sugestions. And hopefully a place where I can find them.
Thanks,
Chris Lopeman
Object Link Inc.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Dual-booting between DOS/Win and Linux
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:38:41 GMT
Peter T. Breuer writes:
> I dread to think how much a complete debian would be.
There is no such animal: some packages conflict with others. What Debian
has instead is 'tasks': virtual packages that depend on and therefore pull
in a related set of packages that the maintainer believes are useful for
a particular task.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fatal signal 11
Date: 02 Apr 2000 17:06:35 -0700
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>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andrew> I suspect hardware because it happens at random and at
Andrew> different places in the 'make'. I also believe that it
Andrew> happened with SuSE 6.0 *and* SuSE 6.2., not sure though.
Andrew> SuSE 6.4 will confirm this when it comes out (which is
Andrew> soon). It happened today with kernels 2.2.10 and
Andrew> 2.2.14. (when I finally got the compile through).
I have always been able to get past sig 11 errors by simply typing
`make' again. I don't get these errors during kernel compiles but I
always get them compiling libraries (which take much longer).
mp
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From: "Eddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: about different rpm type
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:57:37 +0800
As I am now using PIII 600EB, does it mean that I can use either use i386,
i586 and noarch ?
Eddy
Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> eddy wrote:
> >
> > In the name of rpm package, I always i386, i586, and noarch. what's the
> > different between them. And I am using RH6.1 in Intel PC, which one
> > should I use ?
> > Thanks
> >
> > Eddy
>
> well, what kind of Intel-cpu is it? (eg 486, PIII, PII...)
> --
> .
> .
> ... ak42 at kurir dot net ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: about different rpm type
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:05:14 GMT
On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:57:37 +0800, Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As I am now using PIII 600EB, does it mean that I can use either use
>i386, i586 and noarch ?
You can use 386, 586 or preferably for you, 686. noarch is non-compiled
stuff like scripts, docs, etc.
386=any intel
586=Pentium class or better
686=PII/PIII
Never could remember where/how AMD and Cyrix fit in this. There is some
info in the kernel docs under /usr/src/linux.
>Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> eddy wrote:
>> >
>> > In the name of rpm package, I always i386, i586, and noarch. what's
>> > the different between them. And I am using RH6.1 in Intel PC, which
>> > one should I use ?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> well, what kind of Intel-cpu is it? (eg 486, PIII, PII...)
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From: "SEATTLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Want more on Linux..Try Here
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:15:45 GMT
http://home.att.net/~aubreyb/Linux.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHat 6.0 and 17Gb hard disk
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:13:04 GMT
I have a 17Gb hard disk in FAT32 format. Is there an update to Linux to
enable it to see the 17Gb partition as a whole? Where can I get such a
thing?
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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIRUS WARNING !!!!!
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:28:28 GMT
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Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8c6igp$5t4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ..
>>
>> Many of you Windows 95 / 98 programs may no longer function.
>>
>>The is no fix or cure for this virus. Users are being warned
>>to watch out for it. If you see this virus, DO NOT load it
>>into your system!!!!
> This is not April Fools at all.
> The fact is that W2K is not an upgrade for Win9X - it is a switch to NT.
> And the general public neither wants nor needs NT. They should, instead, be
> "upgrading" to Windows Millenium. See the text below.
> It is also the case, as you say, that there is no anti-virus out there yet
> (though, I'm sure, McAfee is working on it as we speak). One of the
> interesting attributes of W2K is that, unlike previous MS offerings, it
> cannot be uninstalled (It warns you of this fact in one of the early
> installation screens).
Umm.. why the hell would we be worried about this, since we're
all running LINUx here? unless you're totally clueless about the
Newsgroup header, you've posted this to comp.os.LINUX.misc. Your windows
Virus means nothing here. Why not go call up Redmond and tell BillyBoy
to make a less virus-prone operating system.
Moral of the post: post to the correct group about it. not here.
BL.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: setuid-root does not work on lprm ?
Date: 3 Apr 2000 01:31:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I´ve set a program to suid=root and when I run it as root it is running
>fine, but when running as user, it doesnt work ! shouldnt it be the same ?
>
>I´m talking about the lprm-programm:
>
>[root]# ls -l lprm
>-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 14732 Oct 2 1998 lprm
>
>[user]$ lprm 65
>cfA718Aa02965: Permission denied
>
>[root]# lprm 65
>dfA718Aa02965 dequeued
>cfA718Aa02965 dequeued
>
>how can it be ?
Because lprm has out-smarted you, so to speak. The lprm is designed to be
setuid root, but it does its own permission checking inside to ensure that
non-root users can only remove their own jobs. Thus you cannot fool it
into letting everyone delete any job, just by changing the permissions on it.
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From: Shadow Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendations Please
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:29:43 -0400
I paid $0.89 for Redhat 6.2 yesterday from Cheapbytes not to mention I
had the send me some of their free closeouts like NetBSD, OpenBSD,
FreeBSD and Slackware 3.5. Figured what the heck since they were free
and shipping was $5 no matter which way you looked at it. :)
Shadow Hunter
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:40:33 GMT, "Tom Hoffmann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Expensive??? I paid $3.49 for RedHat 6.1 from cheapbytes. The postage
>($5.00) cost me more than the Linux.
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:33:45 +0100, Andy wrote:
>>>I am looking at purchasing either RH6.1 Linux or SuSE Linux. Which do
>>>people prefer? What is the manual/documentation like with each product?
>>>Thanx in advance, Andy
>>
>> None of them. They're both very expensive. The docs that come with the
>> Suse distro are comparatively good, but it has 6 CDs and installs lots
>> of trash you'll never need. Use Mandrake and buy a good book :-)
>>
>> Bastian
>>
>>
>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Paging Software Recommendations
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:40:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: better. Its prefereable to find something that will work directly with
: a modem on the linux box. It can be comand line oriented or have a
: standard API.
http://www.qpage.org/
At work we use it under HPUX, and it works quite well, the web site
says that it supports Linux, Solaris, AIX, and others as well.
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=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
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writing a program that you want to use." -Eric Allman
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From: Crash Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Can't believe someone hasn't seen this!
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:42:14 -0400
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Patricia,
Thank you for your response. I've read a number of your posts recently to
folks in need in these newsgroups. I'd like to applaude you for your
patience and politeness. It's nice to encounter folks out here that have a
genuine respect for others. Unfortunately, there are alot of rude
individuals responding to posts and that certainly sours the impressions of
those who are simply exploring the world of Linux.
I hope soon, I can give back to the Linux community and share some of my
insights and help others as well. I'm just trying to get my own little
world here setup. I'm a very very long time user (part of that time an
SA) of Unix, so I'm not in the least bit a newbie. I'm eager to help.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks!!
chris
Patricia wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, Chris Davis wrote:
> >>Anyone seen this problem before? I have PPP running fine on one of my
> >machines, but I'm having difficulty solving this problem on my laptop.
> >Any suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> >This is reported by kppp upon start up:
> >
> >"This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel
> >module loader.
> > To solve this problem:
> > * contact your system administrator
> > or
> > * install a kernel with PPP support"
> >
> >I've recompiled my kernel (many times over) with PPP support enabled,
> >both as a module and built-in and still get the same message.
> >
> >
> >This is what is found in /var/log/messages:
> >PPP: version 2.3.7 (deman dialing)
> >PPP line discipline registered.
> >
> >No other messages are reported when kppp is started.
> >
> >
> >I noticed that lsmod does not show ppp or slhc loaded. Not sure why.
> >
> >If it is not obvious, I'm running RH6.1. Kernel version 2.2.12-20.
> >
> >I'll be happy to provide any more information that i may have
> >inadvertently omitted.
> >
> >TIA,
> >chris
>
> Chris,
> This is a bug in RedHat.
> You must upgrade Kppp and pppd
> or you can use this Hack
> as user
> type su -c "pppd <> /dev/modem"
> type root's password
> and after a second or two, press Ctrl-C to interrupt pppd.
> the result is visible in /var/log/messages:
> ppp0 registered
> After this, you can start kppp just as usual, and it will *not* complain
>
> --
> HTH :)
> Patricia
>
> http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
> Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
> Kernel 2.2.5-15
> 12:50am up 18:33, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.34, 0.35
> Sat Apr 1 00:50:48 CEST 2000
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